My 4 month experience with the new Omega Speedmaster || Moonwatch 3861: Best Chronograph 

That means a lot, thank you!

Very glad to hear that, it’s a fantastic product!

Thanks a lot for the comment!

Thank you so much! That’s so cool did we convince you on buying the watch? 😊

Thank you!

Thanks for the comment😉

That white dial racing Speedy is amazing too, love the white dial. Thanks for commenting! Take care

Thanks a lot 😉

You’re welcome, glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks for sharing!

It’s well worth it, can‘t get enough of it!

Also a good choice! thanks for commenting

Thank you 😉

Thank you for sharing, I am indeed familiar with the Apollo 8 which is fantastic looking piece, the rubber strap is very comfy too!

Glad to hear you enjoyed the video. And yes this watch is absolutely amazing, just doesn’t get old, no matter how much you see it around.

@@TheWatchScientists thank you for encouragement...I will miss the IWC but I'm a one watch kind of guy, and can't afford to buy this without selling my current...I think it'll be worth it

Congratulations ! that's nice to hear, thanks for sharing.

Thank you!

Yes but that’s really a minor. This watch is so close to perfection. Absolutely love mine, thanks for sharing!

I’ve heard you can buy the chronoscope clasp and will fit no problem

Did it not have them two years ago? I bought mine recently and I have micro adjustments, or did you mean there are not enough?

Thanks for this elaborate comment! For me personally I much prefer the look of the 3861 mainly for the bracelet and the depth and detail of the dial. No wrong choices though here, the 1861 has a more rugged toolish look. Can’t go wrong with a Speedy ;)

I mean a 2 day power reserve is really nice for a manual wind watch. Consider that an automatic Patek Philippe Nautilus doesn’t even have a 2 day power reserve for more than 2x the retail price 😉. I think the lume is also very okay 👌🏽 but thanks for the comment!

Rear window??

@@whereRbearsTeeth I think he's talking about the sedan or coupe version. The Speedmaster hatchback has a very large rear window. 🤣

It is a stunning watch! I agree, they did everything right on this one and improved on all weak spots. Wearability, dial design, movement,… Enjoy the watch!

Agree!

Well that’s something new to me, thank you for sharing and commenting

@zeekthegreat Please post a link to the story detailing finding Buzz Aldrin's SpeedMaster - thanks!

Pretty sure that is incorrect. That would be big news if it was found

That would be the Daytona… at about 5 times the price, but still nothing comes close to a Daytona.

Well, only when Patek 5172G is out of budget

@@986C Daytona is overpriced.

@@stevemitchell7981 Agreed, a Grey Side of the Moon is about $2,000 less than a steel Daytona's retail price.

@@986Cyou must be joking.

Hesalite all day long no matter the price, that's the original Moonwatch, there's only one Moonwatch and this is the one imo. I think it's well different enough from a Daytona and just as versatile if not even more so. Thanks for commenting!

Good question! As far as I know 12 hours is max stop-time. Otherwise it would be too hard to read on the subdials.

Thank you! And yes we’re a Luxembourg based channel 😉

I think it’s a stunning piece but wouldn’t necessarily spend that money on it And thank you! Welcome on board 😉

Interesting, what attracted you more to the 1861 as opposed to the 3861?

@@TheWatchScientists good question - price (mine was in great condition from 2020 for £3800) - dial. Its more grey, less busy as there is no big step, and outer seconds track blends together as a band. So nice clean dial - I like non hacking movement. No need to stress over accuracy (although mine is +1 second per day) - more true to history used by nasa, and yeah..... that's about it.. and I like the lug design actually

Those are fair points! Can’t argue against that. For me the 3861 is more fitted as it hugs my wrist better and I’m obsessed with the step dial. Enjoy your watch in good health!

@@TheWatchScientists yes, the one thing I would want from the 3861 is slightly better size. Good that we can both enjoy our slightly different watches!

That bracket sucks

Thank you, that means a lot :) What do you mean too big? Is it too long or too wide? The Aqua Terra is a great watch and there are many different versions, which one do you have?

@@TheWatchScientists I would just say it's too bulky: too long perhaps in the sense that it goes a little bit round your wrist. The Aqua Terra that I have is a white 38mm. I wear it on its bracelet most of the year and on a blue nato for the holidays. It is very versatile. I also have an OP 39mm in white.

Ok i understand, sounds like you have a nice collection of watches ;)

The clasp is too big?? The clasp on this new bracelet is tiny. The bracelet narrows all the way down to 15mm at the clasp. You must have a 5 inch wrist

😂

Keep wearing those shitty Bulova then … nobody cares

Thank you! I can’t remember where I bought it but the brand is Alpha Industries

Really do they not do that anymore?

It’s an amazing watch! Haven’t heard about fitting problems but more adjustments is always welcome ;) Thanks for sharing!

Thank you, that means a lot! it should be between 14 and 16cm

@@TheWatchScientists thanks for the info my friend, stay safe and take care! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 look forward to more watch review

Thank you they will keep coming 😉

Exactly 🙌🏽 that is a good choice too, definitely a very robust watch you have there then. Congrats!

Thank you! You should look at it that way, the hesalite scratches more easily but it can also easily be polished for like 20€. I would go for the sapphire version but only because it has an open caseback (Chris). Nele obviously has the hesalite as he prefers that one.

That’s for sure, but i am just saying it’s easy to fix. They even did it for free at the watch store where i usually go to. Or even with polywatch. So if you want the historically accurate one don’t let that put you off

@@TheWatchScientists Thank you for sharing, I am leaning towards haselite because of Nele's review haha. I wish he can touch more on his daily experience with the watch and how he dealt with the scratches (if any).

@@BryanWongsg Hey Bryan, Nele here 😉 Glad to see you enjoyed the review and that you’re leaning towards the hesalite version. It's a good choice! So when I used to work for Omega this was my daily watch and I also wore it quite a lot outside of work. So yes my watch definitely picked up some scratches on the glass. Have I polished them? No First of all unless you're scraping against a wall the scratches are only lightly visible depending on the light. Second of all, I don't think scratches look bad, and as Chris said, you can always get it polished for a few quid! So don't be afraid of the scratches, they give character and show that you at least wear your watch 😉

@@TheWatchScientists hey Nele, thank you for sharing your experiences with me. OK I am sold, I will be getting the hesalite next week. ☺️ Thank you so much for the beautiful review, keep it up!

Thank you! Yes the lume is really nice and lasts long enough (can’t put a time on it)

Huh??

Thank you! I never actually measured my wrist, but what I can tell you is that it is smaller than 17,5 cm.

It’s been awhile I can’t remember but it was at least 3. Maybe between 3&5

It is 15,5-16cm

Thanks for commenting! Very surprised by this issue, it’s known to be a superb movement. Did it take any major hit?

@@TheWatchScientists No it's been very carefully looked after. Ive done a little research and apparently there have been some reported cases of the movement stopping.

That’s a shame! Hope they’ll sort it out for you soon

I am not sure but i think 15-16cm 😊

@@TheWatchScientists you’ve given three different answers to this so far. Just measure your wrist.

😉

I’ve seen people swim with it but i wouldn’t recommend jumping into the water with it. Normally 50m water resistance is recommended for swimming. So if you don’t have to i wouldn’t risk it. If you do don’t use the chronograph pushers!

Thank you for the nice comment! Looks like you’ll have a banger of a gift then 😉

Same here! 😊

They will fall, by half, source, none I just know things

Price for new ones will rise, so those for used ones will stay at the current level more or less I guess. We are talking about luxury watch market, looking back for the last two years, what would you expect for the near future?

It’s omega. You will be able to get it for at least 20-30% off on Jomashop within a years time when all the hype (like this video) wears off.

@@whereRbearsTeeth actually ended up getting one with 28% off in December at an AD

Sure did!

Thanks a lot! I have about a 15.5-16cm wrist

There are quite a few on the crystal but you don‘t really see them if you don‘t pay attention to it.. It‘s not that bad. Plus, you can polish it whenever…

well said lad.

I personally prefer the stepdial on this one, which for me is the nicest improvement on the dial to the 1861. But both watches are great

They also look great! So which one will it be? ;)

@@TheWatchScientists not sure yet 🙈🙈 just love that blue Seamaster 300 heritage (stunning) but as as the Speedmaster sapphire 🙈🙈🤣

Have you tried them on already? That mostly helps 😊

@@TheWatchScientists did as well (even the aquaterra world traveler) but still undecided - both fit my wrist perfectly… just sometime I think the Seamaster are more robust for daily wear

@@impexRQ get them both!! Those are literally my favorite 2 watches. I want to own them both

For me the caseback would be a plus. I do like the look of the plexi (it is definitely different and has a stronger vintage vibe). And it is easier to polish the scratches out whereas the sapphire will shatter if it is pushed too hard. But of course sapphire is the more durable material

It is also a great watch! Especially for people who enjoy smaller sized watches. I got myself the Reduced also because of the size and because the automatic movement is more practical. The 38 doesn’t have the moonwatch manual winding movement but instead has Omega‘s Co-axial escapement and automatic winding. If you want the 38 for the size maybe do consider trying on the new moonwatch as it does wear much better than the previous generation 😊 Hope that helps

@@TheWatchScientists yeah i really need small size for my hand lol , but which is the new generation ? and which is the old generation ?

@@yousefa6143 you'll find the new generation in every Omega dealer, ask for it and they'll show it to you, the old one is not really being sold anymore anyways. but the one you see in this video is the new one/the latest

@@TheWatchScientists so , thats mean , speedmaster co-axial chronometer 38 , older than this watch on the video ?

The Speedmaster 38 is a different model to the Speedmaster professional (from this video). You can buy both new in an Omega store but the Professional is „newer“ because it was released in 2021 while the 38 was released in 2017 i think.

No I don’t, my experience winding it is superb. It sounds like this is an individual case … I think the clasp thing shouldn’t be too much of a problem. You have to think about the fact that they also need to add improvements along the way with various models, otherwise everything is unveiled in one go which is not good marketing wise. I hope that you’ll still be able to enjoy your Speedy as it is a fantastic piece.

It will wind easier after a few months. Use some force against the crown when winding.

Choices! Hesalite imo is more than durable enough + you can always polish it

Exactly right 😉

The Speedmaster professional is traditionally called Moonwatch and the 321 is just one specific iconic movement reference, the first one that went to the moon. In todays Speedmaster you find the 3861. Depends of what you consider as “best”. Of course there is more complicated chronographs like the Ratrappant Chronographs or foudroyant chronographs. We just say that this is a very accurate watch and in it’s price sector you will have a hard time finding a better more accurate and robust chronograph :)

@@TheWatchScientists You can still find 321 but it costs two times more than 3861 and I am sure you know why (not just because it is rare and discontinued, it is still in production). Despite 321 has gone about 3 generations since inception as a true Moonwatch, it's sad but with 3861 movement Speedy is a simply improved iteration of the iconic watch (after 1861 as well). Best for me in terms of Chrono is accuracy and how smooth it is for start/stop, recording time, how easy to read the dials. More complicated chronographs? For what? In terms of price - I bought IWC pilot chronograph (with Valjoux 7750 caliber) shortly after I bought Speedy. IWC as a bit cheaper alternative (because IWC doesn't use millions to pay celebrities for promotion apparently, unlike the Omega), does have a history of the brand and series of innovations. But what really disappointed me in Omega is how chronograph works (what I have mentioned - how it's starts and stops, you can google the "Speedmaster Chrono hand jumps forward", moreover there were a lot of issues with Speedy shortly after it was announced with 3861 movement. It's a great looking watch and accurate, but I would not say it is the very best on the market. Opinion is of course subjective.

@@russkiytube The 321 movement uses a column wheel vs cam on the 3861. Don't know how much that affects the cost.

How is the co-axial immature if it has been developed for over 10 years?

@@TheWatchScientists xD

Very delicate?? You’re clueless. This watch has to go through extensive testing to get the metas certification. Not to mention the testing NASA put it through decades ago to qualify for space flight.

The sapphire sandwich is amazing

The movement is, not talking about the case. The movement is a Master Chronometer making it significantly more resistant to magnetism and shock than the previous 1861.

@@TheWatchScientists I’m still not sure it’s worth the extra 2k for the new movement.. the OG survived space travel after all.. so it must be pretty robust

@@dazlarg it's subjective, the 2k + are not only for the movement, it's for a slimmer case, a significantly more refined bracelet that lets the watch wear better on smaller wrists as opposed to the previous generation, and a new clasp. Not to mention the new step-dial. When all combined together with the new movement I'd say it's worth it. This is obviously subjective, but all I can say is I would not have spent the money on the previous gen, but I did on this and I never regretted it.

@@TheWatchScientists I hear you

Would you want to see a video about the sapphire Speedmaster? We have a video about the rose gold Speedmaster, which has all the additional features of a sapphire Speedmaster. Have a look at that :)

Thanks! I love the open caseback on the sapphire sandwich 🤤 i had a quick look at your channel and you have great videos! I think you should improve your audio which can be easily achieved with a rather cheap microphone. Have a look at this one 😊

www.amazon.de/AGPTEK-Omnidirectional-Kondensator-Transformation-Videokonferenz/dp/B07SHSHW6H

@@TheWatchScientists Thanks for stopping by. I did order a new microphone recently so audio quality should improve in my future videos.

Great! 😊 good luck with your channel

I actually love the sharp edges on the watch, I think it looks great and as you said it does no harm to the wrist

@@TheWatchScientists yes it does no harm but again the finishing is . A major flaw.. ...compared to previous speedy or any notable watch manufacturers...

Don’t see the “flaw”, I think the finishing on this watch is much nicer to the previous one. But each to their own. I agree to disagree

It’s simply a very good product at a very nice price, not to mention the history behind. Of course it’s going to get a lot of attention. Over-hyped I would not say because the watch delivers.

And Rolex is what?

Rolex doesnt exist in my world, but omega sure does!

I thought so too for a very long time. Then I slapped one of these ones on my arm a few months ago. Now this is my next buy, and it’s a keeper, one of the few ones that will stay in the family.

But when you need it it’s there. A date could ruin the layout