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What is Theresa May’s biggest regret from her time as Home Secretary? Why was the Hillsborough disaster such an abuse of power? What’s it like to stay on as an MP after occupying the highest office in the land?
On today’s episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by former Conservative Prime Minister, Theresa May.
00:00 Intro
01:20 Childhood/Political era's
07:00 Politics and faith
08:30 Injustice and inequality
12:22 Political evolution
20:00 Abuses of power
31:40 Windrush
39:15 Government conduct
45:00 Working in public service
48:00 Reform and the future of politics
53:14 Being a woman in politics
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@Ulysses042
@Ulysses042 8 месяцев назад
I'm not a fan of May's politics but IMO she was the last PM who was competent and tried to do what they thought was best for the country. Since she left office, it's been all egos and self-interest.
@veggie42
@veggie42 8 месяцев назад
That's because she let Boris in..Well it was David Cameron's fault. He held a referendum with leave and remain and not a reform question..The EU needs to reform and won't listen to this Brexit consequence..The EU isn't listening the UK has voted a revolution.. May more like Starmer in a way. Not a hard Brexiteer she couldn't carry it out and didn't need to. Bozo was with a Catholic. The CofE shows this. That speech was like the current Labour. Mental health/the class in education and the race thing. The Conservative Party doesn't conserve anything apart from itself! 😂
@neilburns8869
@neilburns8869 8 месяцев назад
Here, here. She was a vicar's daughter and you could see a lot of her decency and fairness as a person compared to the many other clowns who occupied No 10 Downing Street under the Conservatives.
@BasaiDai
@BasaiDai 8 месяцев назад
agreed. She was thrown under the bus by the Selfservatives and they should be (but won't be) thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
@Ulysses042
@Ulysses042 8 месяцев назад
@@ac583 I respectfully disagree. Nothing in her approach to politics has indicated to me that she's in any way selfless. I'd class Truss as "power hungry".
@davedogge2280
@davedogge2280 8 месяцев назад
I pretty much agree. She did inherit a bit of a messy situation
@TheMcLaughlincrew
@TheMcLaughlincrew 8 месяцев назад
There is so much I disagree with Theresa May on but in a post Johnson world it’s hard not to have a lot of respect for her. She’s clearly a person who has shown a great deal of integrity.
@WILLtTHOMPSON2906
@WILLtTHOMPSON2906 8 месяцев назад
she never showed any integrity in Government
@JonniePolyester
@JonniePolyester 8 месяцев назад
I agree but like Gordon Brown before her the integrity only gets you so far political nouse, person-ability and luck even are required in equal measures. Boris would have probably faired better had he had integrity.
@Afghamistam
@Afghamistam 8 месяцев назад
I find it very easy to have zero respect for her. Someone with actual integrity would, upon receiving the OBS report unequivocally stating "Brexit is a bad idea and is going to make us poorer for a long, long time" might have thought "Okay, I'll just forget the whole thing, take the political hit and resign". Someone with no integrity at all, would continue spending millions of pounds trying to ram the thing down the country's throat while mindlessly repeating "wIlL oF tHe pUblIc" - on the strength of a 49/51 split in a non-binding referendum.
@wacquantx
@wacquantx 8 месяцев назад
how is it hard exactly?
@77Stringer
@77Stringer 8 месяцев назад
Post Johnson does the heavily lifting here
@FictionJunction.M.
@FictionJunction.M. 8 месяцев назад
Amazing that Sunak, Truss and Johnson make May look like a political heavyweight. I am a socialist and wouldn't agree with May on much at all, but at least she respected her office and didn't spread extreme-right conspiracy theories.
@jayr9952
@jayr9952 8 месяцев назад
This is May's attempt to compare and contrast her record in office to that of Boris, Truss & Sunak. Don't be swayed by the soft speak and calm demeanor. TM is simply another version of horrendous politicians. Repeat after me - there are no respectable Tories.
@PMMagro
@PMMagro 8 месяцев назад
She is more of civil servant type of character. Sadly uneeceatble that kind of politican. I like her style and way but not her political priorities and sollutions..
@gerryg1056
@gerryg1056 8 месяцев назад
Oh, really? Who was it who came up with the "hostile environment" policy?
@FictionJunction.M.
@FictionJunction.M. 8 месяцев назад
@@gerryg1056 I'm not saying she was good. The hostile environment was one thing, but now we have Braverman using hate-stoking, fear-mongering, Nazi-like language to describe migrants and refugees. It's just not comparable.
@anonUK
@anonUK 8 месяцев назад
No, she just put the hatred on the side of a few vans and had them driven around ethnic minority areas...
@oily4545
@oily4545 8 месяцев назад
Quite nice to hear an ex PM just speaking normally rather than having to put on the mask and act in the way we as a society have decided leaders should act.
@adamsubtract81
@adamsubtract81 7 месяцев назад
Its amazing isn't it. Its almost like their humanity returns when they leave office
@MrBoliao98
@MrBoliao98 7 месяцев назад
@@adamsubtract81 wait till Cleverly is out, she'd be the first person to be slotted in.
@liamoneill4706
@liamoneill4706 6 месяцев назад
Instead of "we as a society" insert "the american government"
@J_B17
@J_B17 8 месяцев назад
I really appreciate adding the photos, names and dates of relevancy of the politicians & people from the past who a young person like myself may not recognise. Helps to follow the conversation without getting lost or googling who’s who.
@TryDiy
@TryDiy 8 месяцев назад
"The vans were wrong" understatement of the year.
@Julia-om5cl
@Julia-om5cl 8 месяцев назад
Why is it? illegal people unwelcome
@sheep3370
@sheep3370 8 месяцев назад
Why were they wrong? Genuine question
@TehScareM8
@TehScareM8 8 месяцев назад
advertising the law is wrong?
@Victoriacariad
@Victoriacariad 8 месяцев назад
The problem with the vans is that it was all talk and no action. Actually doing your job as the home secretary/priminister and deporting illegal immigrants is far more important than driving a bus around. I can't decide if it was incompetence on the government's side, or if it was the civil servants or an outside organisation like the ECHR.
@rickchros1919
@rickchros1919 8 месяцев назад
I love this podcast really doing well at bringing moderate politics back to the forefront
@ally11488
@ally11488 8 месяцев назад
I'd assume you'd be having kittens if Campbell interviewed Corbyn?
@rickchros1919
@rickchros1919 8 месяцев назад
@@ally11488 no I think that’d be really really interesting lol
@ally11488
@ally11488 8 месяцев назад
@@rickchros1919 Apologies. All the same I feel Campbell wouldn't entertain it.
@rickchros1919
@rickchros1919 8 месяцев назад
@@ally11488 possibly not with it being very much not a secret how much the Labour left and Blairites despise one another
@antonoat
@antonoat 8 месяцев назад
I’d agree entirely if Alistair Campbell wasn’t part of it! 🤣👍
@chris56269
@chris56269 8 месяцев назад
As others have commented, I wasn't a fan of May's politics but she always struck me as a decent person who had a lot of integrity and a genuine belief in what she was trying to do. Feels very much at odds with all those that have followed her.
@PAUL-ge1kl
@PAUL-ge1kl 6 месяцев назад
Are you having me on? Next you'll be telling me the one about the Tory who gave a flying fuck. Oh how my sides ached when I heard the old bint spout on about 'the burning injustice' of poor mental heath privision while presiding over the decimation of said services. Wake up muppets We've been mugged off. Class War!!!
@rjScubaSki
@rjScubaSki 17 дней назад
She wasn’t decent. She was an utterly vile and disgusting racist whilst Home Secretary. Genuine belief in completely foul principles is not something to be celebrated.
@neilbirch8431
@neilbirch8431 8 месяцев назад
What she did as home secretary is the reason public services are in the trouble they are. She destroyed community policing and ripped the budget to shreds. This is partly why we are in the strife we are. When the Police Federation challenged the cuts she accused them of "Crying wolf" awful home secretary.
@neilbirch8431
@neilbirch8431 8 месяцев назад
@@tonysadler5290 yep, same here, I left in 2017 after 15 years. The cuts finished me off, changed me as a person, single crewing to violent incidents, ridiculous case loads , I had to get out, I have never looked back.
@belindathorne9784
@belindathorne9784 8 месяцев назад
All built on the myth (lie) which she continues to repeat - that we were on the brink of a Greece style meltdown.
@ellastarrr1st149
@ellastarrr1st149 8 месяцев назад
Yes very true !
@Bertrum123
@Bertrum123 8 месяцев назад
True and shes as guilty as the rest .
@veggie42
@veggie42 8 месяцев назад
Osborne .Very controlling
@ItsMeBenson
@ItsMeBenson 8 месяцев назад
Best politics podcast around. Just the best honest, real, clear, humanising, considered interviews. It’s like being in a back room of Westminster
@seanevans1300
@seanevans1300 8 месяцев назад
I’ve never known nearly an hour disappear so fast. Looking forward to next week
@wwk17
@wwk17 8 месяцев назад
The importance of watching interviews should never be underestimated. Podcast interviews, that one listens to only, don't do justice to either the interviewee or the interviewer as one does not get to see reactions/body language all of which provide greater insight and understanding. Really enjoyed watching the interview!
@brianbathgate4944
@brianbathgate4944 8 месяцев назад
Excellent discussion. I think politicians would be seen to have healthier moral compasses if they didn’t accept donations from shady individuals, or have second jobs. Personally, I think these two factors are the biggest compromises to a politicians integrity. The crack down on conflicts of interest has been laughable.
@myce-liam
@myce-liam 8 месяцев назад
I don't agree with much of May's philosophy. I agree with your statement but i think like May stated, the media have a big role to play as well. They can heavily damage or destroy a politician's reputation rapidly if they don't sing their tune. So they're the politician's are beholden to them as well.
@huwzebediahthomas9193
@huwzebediahthomas9193 8 месяцев назад
Yah yah yah go home vans environment go spin Theresa.
@jasondoty9730
@jasondoty9730 8 месяцев назад
As an outsider (American) looking in I am encouraged because the podcast has given a platform for people of opposite views to have a discussion expressing their views with respect for others views. It is what I believe to be missing in the US. As mentioned in the 12th minute this episode. Hopefully by having others around the globe seeing differing views expressed with respect can break people out of the echo chambers we find ourselves exposed to more and more. Thank you all for this and keep up the excellent work.
@JupiterThunder
@JupiterThunder 6 месяцев назад
Theresa May was a useless, hopeless disaster as PM. We have had a litany of leftist clowns and traitors as PM since Thatcher, and Britain right now is "circling the plughole". We're practically a third world country now, with no industry and no economy. Our military is woke and almost non-existent and recently the US military told Britain its armed forces are now at a joke level and the UK can no longer be regarded as a serious military force, or even a serious country. Regrettably I have to agree with that assessment, and it's the likes of Theresa May that has destroyed Britain.
@andycundy5822
@andycundy5822 26 дней назад
Because they all generally have the same views, Alastair Campbell was a Bush puppet who is responsible for millions of death in Iraq and Middle East. He was sat in the commons nodding to all the lies Blair was presented to the commons, to borrow Alan Bennnetts word…Alastair was nodding to all the lies on WMD like a dog in a back of the Fiesta.
@ThePixey1000
@ThePixey1000 5 дней назад
Apart from the fact the British politicans feed you BS when their in power and even more BS when they come out of politics. They are all delusional
@nicholasbethell2921
@nicholasbethell2921 8 месяцев назад
She was responsible for the Windrush scandal then let Amber Rudd take the blame. Shameful.
@huwzebediahthomas9193
@huwzebediahthomas9193 8 месяцев назад
Yep! She's just another Adolf
@tanveerhasan2382
@tanveerhasan2382 8 месяцев назад
Sad
@davidberrell4725
@davidberrell4725 8 месяцев назад
Not sad! Calculated and culpable.
@sara-jayn
@sara-jayn 8 месяцев назад
Amber Rudd let herself take the blame.
@shacklock01
@shacklock01 8 месяцев назад
I mean...out of the two, it was probably more beneficial to let Amber Rudd commit political seppeku. She was a bit of an empty placeholder anyway from what I recall.
@MattCameron69
@MattCameron69 8 месяцев назад
Love this. Moderate sensible conversation instead of far right off the wall populist bullshit we have coming from today’s Conservative government.
@AscendingGoogle123
@AscendingGoogle123 7 месяцев назад
A far right government that just let in 1 million immigrants into the country in a single year. Wow, how far right and "fascist" of them!
@maddyg2001
@maddyg2001 8 месяцев назад
As someone who is not....er naturally sympathetic to the Tories I found the interview very interesting and have a much greater respect for Theresa May than before. I am saddened and concerned by the knee jerk partisan comments as they demonstrate just how badly polarised our politics have become. I don't understand, why watch the interview unless prepared to reflect on one's instinctive bias?
@kratos.8151
@kratos.8151 8 месяцев назад
It sort of made her a little more human. shame she's still racist scum.
@liamdevine8063
@liamdevine8063 8 месяцев назад
You can never expect to understand someone who can not differentiate between shared reality and their own perspective.
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 8 месяцев назад
I don't think the comments are knee jerk? Many (most even) are saying they don't agree with her politics (rightly so because she is responsible for a lot of terrible stuff) but respect that she has principles and respected the office she held.
@liamdevine8063
@liamdevine8063 8 месяцев назад
@@Red1Green2Blue3 May spent her career as a far right zealot. Some people see her downfall to farther right, even madder zealots as tragic but I personally always see the beauty in irony.
@hamsterminator
@hamsterminator 8 месяцев назад
@@liamdevine8063 May a "far right Zealot"?? What did you regard Corbyn as? a Centrist? Embarrassingly narrow view of the world if you think that.
@madzangels
@madzangels 8 месяцев назад
Despite disagreeing with her in many ways, I always felt intuitively that you could at least trust her underlying aim's to genuinely make things better - could never be in doubt. She has never me struck me as self serving as 95% of politicians do.
@madzangels
@madzangels 7 месяцев назад
She's kinda hot too
@rsb8380
@rsb8380 2 месяца назад
The worst bit about her time in power is she actually managed to get probably the best deal we could get with Brexit which would have minimised the harm done, but she was ruthlessly and relentlessly attacked over it. The result is a shit show of a Brexit that will have wide-reaching, irrevocably damaging, negative consequences, for decades to come.
@madzangels
@madzangels 2 месяца назад
@@rsb8380 I find people who still bang on about Brexit and it's negative consequences, at this stage, mind numbingly boring. Deal was done, move on. I hope you don't throw that kind of negativity at the children, it's just offering an excuse for failure. If you really think a 'state' can dictate your well being, then I suggest you change your philosophical view of politics and life - I'd suggest classical liberalism. Turn a negative into a positive, turn a a problem into an opportunity and stop relying on the state to dictate how you feel about tomorrow.
@rjScubaSki
@rjScubaSki 17 дней назад
@@madzangelsyes, it’s a great opportunity now for us to have a period of renormalization with Europe, to grow up as a country, reform the voting system such that immoral xenophobes can never hold the balance of power again, and convince our closest partners that we are worth taking back.
@greghill7759
@greghill7759 8 месяцев назад
In the final section (Being a woman in politics) I was surprised and disheartened to hear that even recently, some male MP's attitudes towards Ms May were still so patronising. What does that tell us about their attitude towards half the population?
@yeshuamusic5102
@yeshuamusic5102 8 месяцев назад
What an incredibly tepid interview, I feel they missed a chance to be more direct about tory policy over the past decade. Then again she probably wouldn't have said yes to the interview if that was the case.
@1967deek
@1967deek 8 месяцев назад
She is delusional, the Tories never helped anyone but their selves, their pointless austerity policy says it all and the reason the country and public services have been run into the ground.
@bertrandrussell894
@bertrandrussell894 8 месяцев назад
That is such a simplistic thing to say. That *must* be hyperbole... you cant really think " then never helped anyone"?. Thats quixotic and wrong.
@everestyeti
@everestyeti 7 месяцев назад
Dont get me wrong I've never been a fan of Theresa May, but she had the guts to sit down and listen to the families of those that lost loved ones at Hillsborough and then take on and deal with the issues and is still pressing for justice. Nice to see grown ups having a discussion, instead of children shouting at each other.
@PAUL-ge1kl
@PAUL-ge1kl 6 месяцев назад
Still. Can't see the old nag winning any pals Merseyside way. The UK is full of mugs. FFS look at Brexit. A curse on Tories. LABOUR. NEW OLD NOT SURE LIB DEMS. Dr please I need medication. Sorry son nothing left in the cabinet. Got took it for HS2/ Brexit/ Backhanders to Lord and Lady Muck on the covid gravy train. "Gee chuck ain't the UK swell?" "Why yes Marnie. Well all gotta that God, Prince Andrew, and the Great Architects Maggie and her beau Ronnie Reagan
@stephenconway2468
@stephenconway2468 8 месяцев назад
Gentlemen - you are doing a great service. This level of conversation should always be present in any democracy. It should be present when the people are in power if possible.
@eveb.6568
@eveb.6568 8 месяцев назад
I Love Theresa May! Didn't like her politics, hate brexit, but I like her a lot. Bright, intelligent, well-educated, responsable, hard-working, smart, well-read, polite woman.
@PeachesandCream225
@PeachesandCream225 8 месяцев назад
LOL this is the women who deported British citizens because they were black... Jesus you really believe that any psychopath who talks nice in a little podcast is a good person. Look at her actions, not her words!
@steffantherock
@steffantherock 8 месяцев назад
*Responsible
@Emmeeats
@Emmeeats 8 месяцев назад
I think you've missed the point of the podcast. At 13:00 they literally discuss a person's politics, over character. You shouldn't "love" a political figure but "dislike their politics". Their politics is who they are...
@elaineedgar2913
@elaineedgar2913 8 месяцев назад
Really? Do you really think so? Well you can fool most of the people most of the time etc., etc., This is the woman who gave an interview about the poor in Britain, WEARING hugely expensive leather trousers!!!
@devilgod136
@devilgod136 8 месяцев назад
So you love a xenophobe.
@jon780249
@jon780249 8 месяцев назад
Her biggest regret should be her record in office, particularly as Home Office minister. She is now only able to whitewash her career because of the utter shambles that has followed her.
@markwatkins8309
@markwatkins8309 8 месяцев назад
Yes, exactly right. With a book out she can present what she didn't do as if she'd done it! Don't buy it! The BS.
@richardhasler4795
@richardhasler4795 6 месяцев назад
Fantastic interview, thank you all involved in providing this on RU-vid!
@a.x.marcus4627
@a.x.marcus4627 8 месяцев назад
This is a much needed space. Thank you.
@thehighlandhamster
@thehighlandhamster 8 месяцев назад
Her comments about being an MP are very telling and show a respect for Parliament. I respect MP's who maintain an interest in their constituents. I cannot see Nadine Dorres, Johnson et al taking the slightest interest in the people who voted for them. Many years ago, I was told a story about Dennis Skinner by a well off land owner in his Bolsover constituency who had a Right of Way issue. He told Skinner that he never voted for him but was told not to worry about that, he would take up his issue and try to assist.
@lanista78
@lanista78 8 месяцев назад
When she became home secretary in May 2010, England/Wales had about 143,700 police officers. When she left the office in July 2016, there were 123,000 left.
@deanunio
@deanunio 8 месяцев назад
And how much did Osbourne cut her budget……
@SpannerWorks
@SpannerWorks 8 месяцев назад
Say what you want about May, she is right about populism politics. Still an old fashioned, outdated lunatic, especially when she talked about the Tories wanting to 'raise people up'. Actual mental take.
@Rory626
@Rory626 8 месяцев назад
Gobsmacked at the audacity with which he said that after the last 13 years of austerity and wage stagnation
@shacklock01
@shacklock01 8 месяцев назад
@@Rory626 funny isent it, they still spout this shite when literally the only time things have been going up and up in all metrics for the last fifty years is the Blair era. They've had just as long in power and have done fuck all but carry on like good little neo-liberals and ransack the house whilst its on fire.
@annishilcock4587
@annishilcock4587 8 месяцев назад
Some one who says she believes in social justice and upholding the law and who was resposible for the Hillsborough inquiry is a outdated lunatic. Hmmmm Mental take indeed but perhaps not hers.
@dominicbritt
@dominicbritt 8 месяцев назад
??? She opened the door to the crazy people! She appointed Johnson as Foreign Secretary! But at least she’s polite and CofE eh?
@lolly1811
@lolly1811 8 месяцев назад
Also her comments about there being nothing wrong with the political system. What nonsense!
@joeey_long
@joeey_long 8 месяцев назад
So happy to have stumbled across this. Like my view of Rory, I've always admired Mrs May. Lovely to see you folks talk politics - really fascinating to have this window into this conversation
@importantjohn
@importantjohn 8 месяцев назад
@@Denis.Collinsi suspect you are the dangerous one
@PAUL-ge1kl
@PAUL-ge1kl 6 месяцев назад
Gotta thing for vicar's daughters then red? Sorry. Blue. Passed myself laughing when she did that Maybot dance. Never trust a Tory (or Labour/Libdem/ Jimmy's Secret Army😅
@trippymchippy8586
@trippymchippy8586 8 месяцев назад
All I can say about May is that she isn't completely stupid (by Tory standards), shes just wrong.
@b4dTechno
@b4dTechno 8 месяцев назад
and racist
@annishilcock4587
@annishilcock4587 8 месяцев назад
In your view. She might think you are wrong.
@trippymchippy8586
@trippymchippy8586 8 месяцев назад
@@annishilcock4587 yep, she likely would.
@bertrandrussell894
@bertrandrussell894 8 месяцев назад
@@b4dTechno "Racist" is such a facile and meaningless concept now. Its thrown around literally everywhere.
@oliverdesvaux
@oliverdesvaux 8 месяцев назад
If you say Tories are all dumb, then you’re slagging off 90% of this country’s private schools 🤣 Eton, Harrow, Haileybury etc
@andrebernascone2630
@andrebernascone2630 8 месяцев назад
May is one of the reasons why this country is in the state its in. Decimated the Police both as home secretary and PM and we have never recovered. Wonder why police don't turn up to a lot of reported crimes. Thank this lady and David Cameron.
@GrahamRead101
@GrahamRead101 8 месяцев назад
As they said in the interview. Things are just not that black and white.
@StopTheRot
@StopTheRot 8 месяцев назад
Ah, another black/white view point. Big up the populists 🤦‍♂️
@user-ek2ui4sv9c
@user-ek2ui4sv9c 8 месяцев назад
Great debate, all thee great people, thank you. :-)
@alfching2499
@alfching2499 8 месяцев назад
She certainly cut the police force by extreme numbers,and now there still trying to recruit them
@dominicbritt
@dominicbritt 8 месяцев назад
That’s the reason why the Police heckled her as Home Secretary…
@alizarde9249
@alizarde9249 8 месяцев назад
Sir Humphrey Appleby would be grinning from ear to ear….. superb interview 🫡
@bythebreach
@bythebreach 8 месяцев назад
This is a British democracy Bernard!
@ajsctech8249
@ajsctech8249 8 месяцев назад
She is an old school tory both in policy, style and presentation. But she indulged Johnston and the far right when she was in office and look where it got her.
@adamlee3772
@adamlee3772 8 месяцев назад
Indulging Johnson is the worst thing anyone or any organisation should have ever done. Not just May.
@ajsctech8249
@ajsctech8249 8 месяцев назад
@@adamlee3772 This was a terrible interview.Campbell was clearly muzzled as the price to pay for getting a former prime minister interview.May is still ill at ease, wooden and weird. She put Johnston in a prominent job at the Foreign affairs because she lacked the balls to dump the prick on his arse. She didn't take on the right wing Brexit extremists in her party and they sunk her premiership. Sunak is making the same mistakes.Until the tories. become a centre right party and purge their party of the right wing Brexit nutters then they are screwed. Why are the current Tories all so wooden and weird? At least Cameron despite his poshness was reasonably normal.
@gavinsmith9564
@gavinsmith9564 8 месяцев назад
She failed to investigate the Russian involvement in Brexit when she had the chance.
@krishnan-resurrection714
@krishnan-resurrection714 8 месяцев назад
Sunak is indian not russian .
@dougallwinship
@dougallwinship 8 месяцев назад
i totally disagree with her politics but she's always come across (to me at least) as a decent person unlike all the other PMs from 2010 on
@buzzukfiftythree
@buzzukfiftythree 8 месяцев назад
'Decent person' and 'Tory'? It was May who created the 'hostile environment' that caused, amongst other things, the Windrush scandal. That was not the act of a 'decent person' in my book, especially given she's the daughter of a C of E clergyman. Can't say I have much faith but, from what bits of the new testament I am aware of, Jesus taught compassion. Not much of that under her stint as Home Secretary.
@oliverleonard7730
@oliverleonard7730 8 месяцев назад
Cameron was also good as well but the last 3 a complete joke. @@buzzukfiftythree
@PAUL-ge1kl
@PAUL-ge1kl 6 месяцев назад
Decent my arse. (With apologies to Ricky Tomlinson)
@paulinereid5226
@paulinereid5226 8 месяцев назад
In my 70's, I have voted conservative all my life - I suppose because my family did - but will NEVER vote conservative again, after this last 3 years of appalling conservative rule, and appalling characters in charge. But for all her faults, I would rather have Theresa May as UK Prime Minister than any of the clowns that have recently been foisted on us. She is at least serious and authentic - whether you agree with her or not
@stephenconway2468
@stephenconway2468 8 месяцев назад
Good comment sir. I listened to John Major recently, and boy did I feel the same. People may be right or wrong, but there should be ability and a semblance of integrity.
@Ronanbart564
@Ronanbart564 8 месяцев назад
Too little too late, your generation has put my principality into tremendous stress. How you sleep at night is beyond me.
@coolio2000
@coolio2000 8 месяцев назад
you have contributed to messing up this country so badly that it is virtually unfixable.
@alidawson6118
@alidawson6118 8 месяцев назад
@@Ronanbart564 well said 👏
@alidawson6118
@alidawson6118 8 месяцев назад
3 yrs? Don't you mean 13? Don't expect anyone to sympathise with you as people like you are the reason this country is in this state. Are you actually looking for sympathy from people because you are selfish and looking after no:1 and not thinking of others? You would rather have May as PM, really? I hope she rots in hell, she's cold, callous , heartless. Remember Windrush, remember Grenfell? No, I don't suppose you do.
@Realrandomman
@Realrandomman 8 месяцев назад
Very interesting conversation between three people who genuinely listen to each other and put their points of view with clarity.
@tommystevenson2921
@tommystevenson2921 8 месяцев назад
A very decent person.....and good PM..... In a difficult party
@claudiushempstead9893
@claudiushempstead9893 7 месяцев назад
How can anyone or anything control that Ego infested political party. All trying to climb over each other to get power make money. Even though when they are in the death throes of a deeply damaging term. They would want to win the next general election. To do what? That is the question we need to ask ourselves. Commit this political party to the dustbin of history.
@andymadel5135
@andymadel5135 7 месяцев назад
Very good interview with a politician of integrity. Looking forward to part 2.
@jonathanwestwood9373
@jonathanwestwood9373 7 месяцев назад
Great guest, fantastic to See her working hard to explain and expand on political issues. Well done Rory and Alister. Keep educating and enlightening the people, please. Great show 9 out of 10. A grade information.
@getheroutofthetruck
@getheroutofthetruck 8 месяцев назад
320k dead. This woman caused so much suffering for the poorest and most vulnerable during her reign.
@m-studios8549
@m-studios8549 7 месяцев назад
Excellent. Love the balanced presentation and knowledge and snippets of background and clarity when mentioning someone’s name - or an instance in history. Used to see Theresa shopping in Waitrose in Twyford. Nice to hear her views.
@Isabel-of4wq
@Isabel-of4wq 5 месяцев назад
As an ex pat Brit this is an absolute joy to listen to. I’ve been gone nearly 35 years so I do appreciate the pauses for explainers to those who need a brief reminder on the back story of some issues. Thanks for the whole team involved …
@58deluxe8
@58deluxe8 8 месяцев назад
The Tories believe in social justice??? At that point I knew she was talking nonsense.
@PMMagro
@PMMagro 8 месяцев назад
Yes, all power to fellow Etonians.
@hugojames85
@hugojames85 8 месяцев назад
Theresa May: "My biggest regret is the fact that I was totally fucking shit at everything."
@paulbrands6239
@paulbrands6239 7 месяцев назад
a wonderful, insightful podcast......finally a normal discussion about different views and opinions of people who are listening to eachother! I am not a conservative, but I love to hear Rory and Theresa make their arguments, it helps understand the essence of politics. I do not believe progressives and conservatives are that far apart in what they want to achieve....
@alexmalex82
@alexmalex82 7 месяцев назад
I still dont understand why they burned peoples boarding cards. The maritme museum burned evidence of peoples arrival... why did that happen?
@peterfeltham5612
@peterfeltham5612 8 месяцев назад
What an indictment of the Tories to have chosen May,Johnson and then the silly schoolgirl Truss to assume the mantle of Prime Minister of this nation.
@mukuzChannel
@mukuzChannel 8 месяцев назад
There are few politicians who have been so wrong so often, but get this much sympathy
@zanmato3041
@zanmato3041 8 месяцев назад
Ha true! The clown show that came after her was the best thing that could have happened for her. Boris et al made her look reasonable and disguised her disastrous home secretary policies. Same for Cameron & Osbourne. They should breathe a collective sigh of relief that Boris took the heat off their legacy with his despicable buffoonery.
@mukuzChannel
@mukuzChannel 8 месяцев назад
@zanmato3041 this is it! She was a horrible at both her main jobs, and yet we all seem to have collectively forgot/glossed over it. She doesn't get enough stick for her "oversight" for what led to the Windrush matter
@mikefranliv
@mikefranliv 7 месяцев назад
I love it that this is a place for grown up conversation
@John-se7rc
@John-se7rc 8 месяцев назад
Her biggest regret is not fiddling her expenses claims a lot more
@alecporter1784
@alecporter1784 8 месяцев назад
Never listened this before but I think holding the feet to the fire on the hostile environment should have been stronger.
@chriscarter2840
@chriscarter2840 8 месяцев назад
Yes: the abuse of power starts with an utter failure of the Home Office to treat those unfortunate enough to have to deal with it as fellow humans. Much follows from this lack of compassion and humanity. It is cultural - did Theresa may attempt to address it?
@alecporter1784
@alecporter1784 8 месяцев назад
Absolutely not, I think she's only trying to recast herself as a great PM and gloss over her egregious policies. @@chriscarter2840
@veggie42
@veggie42 8 месяцев назад
Red Ed and Yvette Cooper? I'd not have her as a Home Sec..No good..Labour needed fresh blood. Philipson not good as an Education Sec..
@stuartgraca
@stuartgraca 8 месяцев назад
I can see the advantage of moving the centre of government physically North and spreading the population more uniformly. Politics is too stuck in the South of England .
@davegobey2137
@davegobey2137 7 месяцев назад
I could never vote Tory but I always thought that Mrs May was the very essence of a serious, decent and hardworking PM. She was the only one brave enough to take the job after the Brexit vote and then had to undertake the role with knives in her back. Bless her.
@mariascaranci2937
@mariascaranci2937 8 месяцев назад
Love yourPodcas, gentlemen. It is interesting, relevant and informative. Thanks😅
@easycoding8255
@easycoding8255 8 месяцев назад
This was actually a really good podcast. Sensible conversation between people who share political differences in a civilised way!
@PAUL-ge1kl
@PAUL-ge1kl 6 месяцев назад
Don't let her off the hook old chap. She's just another venal blue rinse tory with a bit of Tufton Street window dressing. What what
@JN-om6rw
@JN-om6rw 8 месяцев назад
As an Irish person living in Ireland I have great regard for Mrs May
@oliverdesvaux
@oliverdesvaux 8 месяцев назад
Please explain
@deanunio
@deanunio 8 месяцев назад
@@devilgod136why? You like division I suppose. It’s 2023 move on
@Boards-dont-hit-back
@Boards-dont-hit-back 8 месяцев назад
So when she said 'Brexit means Brexit' she was lying through her teeth... just like 99% of all MP's
@andrewashdown3541
@andrewashdown3541 8 месяцев назад
Excellent dialogue
@Rory626
@Rory626 8 месяцев назад
May is in complete denial about what Conservatism as actually is (in terms of how it affects people, not just her idealistic version of it)
@davecross4493
@davecross4493 8 месяцев назад
I think a lot of conservatives are. I think people.born into wealth generally haven't had the same life lessons to be able to weather storms and run things in an efficient way
@marklast7032
@marklast7032 8 месяцев назад
You watch GB news dont you- you must be very clever and understand the detail of issues.
@verityviolet
@verityviolet 8 месяцев назад
Rory is much the same.
@joemunkey
@joemunkey 8 месяцев назад
All of the "reasonable" conservatives are like that
@fordprefect1925
@fordprefect1925 8 месяцев назад
Out of interest why have you concluded this person must watch gb news rather than say novara media?
@po-cf1ut
@po-cf1ut 8 месяцев назад
Quite a lot of soft questions I feel here... support for the book really. I don't feel her (in my view) weak legacy of government, poor election and attempts to steer Brexit over the line were given really any scrutiny. It's on these points history will really remember her.
@grahamdominy8309
@grahamdominy8309 6 месяцев назад
Fascinating. Thank you, all three of you. Theresa May is probably the most decent human being to sit in Number 10 since John Major (possibly also Gordon Brown). Looking forward to the follow up. She was certainly handed Pandora's political box and part of her party threw away the key.
@chrism6315
@chrism6315 8 месяцев назад
As a libdem/lab, ive no doubt the country would be better off now if may had been PM during covid.
@0w784g
@0w784g 8 месяцев назад
In what sane world is a LibDem/Lab a cogent political choice? One should be antithetical to the other. There is no choice.
@niahays1042
@niahays1042 8 месяцев назад
I'm interested in why helping the rehabilitation post Windrush?
@ruinerblodsinn6648
@ruinerblodsinn6648 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for that great interview! I hope we will see Obama and other important politicians in the future. Looking forward for part 2!
@plumduff3303
@plumduff3303 7 месяцев назад
Never been a tory myself but Mrs May was the old school variety. This latest bunch simply aren't in her class. Boris culled most of the thinking ones
@bw1376
@bw1376 7 месяцев назад
May wasn't an old-school conservative. She's a centrist globalist like Blair.
@jeycalc6877
@jeycalc6877 7 месяцев назад
Some of the worst people in politics in this room, the only people missing are blair, corbyn, and diane abott
@supernidge9067
@supernidge9067 8 месяцев назад
So glad you’re starting to show the episodes on RU-vid - I listen to the podcast but I prefer watching!
@noworriesnoproblems6382
@noworriesnoproblems6382 6 месяцев назад
Does it not upset you seeing Alistair Campbell hands and all the blood on them?
@vivo-audio
@vivo-audio 8 месяцев назад
Never ask a Tory how they feel. It just confuses them.
@lesliecarl7623
@lesliecarl7623 8 месяцев назад
I can’t stand her. Her attempts to curb immigration were punishing and inhumane. After committing the apparent sin of marrying someone not from Britain, it’ll have cost us over £10,000 for them to eventually become a British citizen, a stressful process that will have taken over 5 years when all done. If we didn’t have the funds, or a job paying above the required threshold, we simply wouldn’t be able to be together. All so May as Home Secretary and then PM could claim the have cut immigration numbers and appease Mail and Sun readers. No concern for how damaging her policies were to normal people. And this seeped into every aspect of her immigration policy. Then has the audacity to sob when she lost her job.
@ThePixey1000
@ThePixey1000 5 дней назад
@lesliecarl7623 She didnt do that bad at immigration the public have wanted our borders totally closing since Blair allowing over a 100 thousand illgals to stay. in the 80s. We are a small island we have done enough 50s 60s 70s 80s when it comes to immigration.
@MrUniman609
@MrUniman609 8 месяцев назад
I am not a Conservative supporter, I firmly believe that Theresa May is a decent and honest woman, I liked he approach to the Brexit negotiations. In hindsight, I think she was a much better Prime Minister than she was given credit for. She was an undeserving victim of the Brexit hard liners. I took a dislike for her for the way she was responsible for closing police stations and putting the police in a very weak ineffective position in society.
@markendicott6874
@markendicott6874 8 месяцев назад
Never ceases to amaze me that Ex-Tory Leaders always seem so nice and reasonable when it's not them directly responsible for the dire state of today, it's almost as if they weren't swivel-eyed loons with disasterous personal beliefs that left the Country a mess when they got the boot after all......
@danw5760
@danw5760 8 месяцев назад
Has it occurred to you that maybe your media sources influenced your perception of her?
@orangutanfan3179
@orangutanfan3179 8 месяцев назад
She actually used Liam Byrne's joke about their being no money left as a basis for arguing why austerity was a good idea. Scratch the surface and she's just as warped as she ever was.
@johnalbent
@johnalbent 8 месяцев назад
​@orangutanfan3179 everyone promised austerity in 2010. Darling, Osborne and Cable all said the cuts would be deeper than Thatcher.
@OptimusMonk01
@OptimusMonk01 8 месяцев назад
lol you mean, the 100% of media sources that are owned by tory supporting billionaires?@@danw5760
@GrahamRead101
@GrahamRead101 8 месяцев назад
Ever thought you’ve been fed a line by a) the press and b) the more extreme of the opposition
@tedroberts19
@tedroberts19 8 месяцев назад
I heard her interviewed by Kim Hill in NZ and the relentless pushing of her book which pointed the finger at everyone else. If I hear "Well in my book....." one more time I could be ill. Government (as Rory points out via endless compromises and deals) abuses power at every turn. Public servants and others will take their cue from the leaders. I was not charmed or convinced she is any different from others. You can be 'nice' and also ineffective. Sorry to go across the grain and be critical but she made me cranky and she is boring to listen to (unkind I know). Go well.
@jackscarfe8574
@jackscarfe8574 5 месяцев назад
This was refreshing. Always felt sorry for her, came to No. 10 at an impossible time. Not aligned with her politics, but I’m glad she’s still an MP.
@lancechinnian4043
@lancechinnian4043 8 месяцев назад
Really enjoyed this!
@steveo44
@steveo44 8 месяцев назад
She genuinely did her best. She had a degree of integrity unlike anyone who has come since. I'm no Tory but I would happily swap her for sunak
@jonathanprior6025
@jonathanprior6025 8 месяцев назад
Unbelievable! All May wants to do is try and re-write the consequences of the dreadful policies that she enacted during her time as one of the most damaging Home Secretaries that we have seen in modern politics, and to blame her failure as PM trying to deliver a sensible Brexit (an oxymoron if ever there was!) on anyone other than herself. Fortunately, she will be judged in the long term on the consequences of her failures by political historians. And the judgement will be deservedly harsh.
@oliverleonard7730
@oliverleonard7730 8 месяцев назад
We didn't know how good we had it back then - Johnson, Truss and Sunak have shown what a good PM May was.
@user-hv5uy7ct6g
@user-hv5uy7ct6g 8 месяцев назад
No, May was terrible and 3 after were and are even worse.
@blockeighteen1059
@blockeighteen1059 6 месяцев назад
She should be in jail for what she did to the UK. Trying to pretend she was any better than Cameron, Johnson, Truss or Sunak does this show a disservice.
@brianc7023
@brianc7023 8 месяцев назад
She talked about the Tories being the party that tries to raise people up, how that can be squared with her voting for the austerity policies that bullied the weakest in society lead to the premature deaths of over 330,000 UK citizens is beyond me.
@matthewdowning6009
@matthewdowning6009 8 месяцев назад
Easily; it’s a philosophical difference. One is that everyone should be equal and another in which people should strive for more and be rewarded for effort.
@heem6619
@heem6619 8 месяцев назад
@@matthewdowning6009 Which one justifies starving disabled people to death?
@bilinguru
@bilinguru 8 месяцев назад
Conservative politicians, no matter which country you find them, share two features: One, they are in utter (and often disingenuous) denial that a large number of people are in difficult circumstances, despite protestations to the contrary, and that require government intervention to "lift them up." Two, they are endlessly self-promotional, never missing a chance to take credit for things that went well and deny responsibility for poor decisions. Theresa May is experienced enough to know how to embody these two features in a relatively inoffensive manner, at least compared to recent populist incarnations. But, Rory chose to separate himself from the party when the chasm between his values and the party's became undeniable and unbearable. He also does not seem as comfortable being a self-promoter, even though he's rather good at it in a genuinely humble way. As so often is the truth, the leaders we need are those men and women who are reluctant to step (back) into a political system that rewards, elitists, egomaniacs and apologists and ignores people who genuinely want to serve their constituents and the nation. I sincerely hope Rory that you hold May's feet to the fire on her contention that fundamental changes to the structure of Britain's parliamentary democracy are not necessary. I'm sure you agree they are not only essential, but long overdue. The requirement for party members to tow the line, despite their moral objections is anathema to a true democracy, as is the peerage system. Alistair and Rory make a fine counterpoint duo, however it does get rather tiresome watching Alistair constantly seeking opportunities to catch people out and say "gotcha," simply because they are or were on the other sides of an issue in which he is or was involved. He is definitely not the type of person who is needed in elected office, because we need to rid the system of pettiness, not see further divisiveness, even if it's cloaked as "healthy banter."
@markwelch3564
@markwelch3564 8 месяцев назад
Can I offer one observation? I feel party coherency and loyalty is natural and desirable - it is impossible to act alone, so groups are inevitable Our problem is a system that forces people into one of two ridiculously broad camps - we need a multi party system where both voters and politicians can find a group that is a natural size to naturally share values. The big parties are too big for natural coherency
@katalinrobin6222
@katalinrobin6222 8 месяцев назад
According to my experiences the mentioned description of conservative politicians fit exactly the left wing ones.
@markwelch3564
@markwelch3564 8 месяцев назад
@@katalinrobin6222 where did you find a left wing politician? They're a rare breed!
@0w784g
@0w784g 8 месяцев назад
UK spends more on welfare than ever. Whatever you may think of so-called "conservative" politicians, the UK is truly enourmous welfare spender.
@markwelch3564
@markwelch3564 8 месяцев назад
@0w784g much of which is for people in work, because we have embarrassingly low wages in this country for many roles 🙁
@user-ll4zc9kx3w
@user-ll4zc9kx3w 5 месяцев назад
I admire this lady ! she is so eloquent to a point that when I listen to her, I don't want her to stop.
@stuartgraca
@stuartgraca 8 месяцев назад
I enjoyed the banter
@trytwicelikemice3190
@trytwicelikemice3190 8 месяцев назад
I wish they dug more into why they did the vans, when the problem with it was so obvious. Could have really shone a light on how bad and toxic politics is promoted by the system as it is now. Also would have liked to see May pressed harder on what she did to the police, and how the state they are in now derives from her decisions.
@drdreel5559
@drdreel5559 8 месяцев назад
On the vans specifically she's said previously that the idea of the vans was already in progress when she arrived at the home office and that if she had her time again she would have stopped them. It's not clear whether she was even aware. She is loyal to the party but my impression is that May doesn't just make things up, so there is probably some truth in that.
@trytwicelikemice3190
@trytwicelikemice3190 8 месяцев назад
@@drdreel5559 Thanks for that! Do you know where she said it?
@drdreel5559
@drdreel5559 8 месяцев назад
@@trytwicelikemice3190 I THINK one of LBC, Times Radio or Radio 4 at the time of the book launch. Doesn't narrow it down much in afraid!
@trytwicelikemice3190
@trytwicelikemice3190 8 месяцев назад
@drdreel5559 I'll google it, thanks anyway!
@grahamkearnon6682
@grahamkearnon6682 8 месяцев назад
A middle manager in abilities, she got the PM slot because the talent barrel is so completely empty.
@LysanderLH
@LysanderLH 8 месяцев назад
I would have thought Maybot’s biggest regret was when it upgraded its operating system software to Maybot v2.0 which had a robodance programme that caused it to do the Iggie-biggie-biggie dance every time it detected music.
@Tom_murray89
@Tom_murray89 День назад
She was the only Tory MP in the 2010’s that put the country before herself in my opinion
@UlyssesHaq
@UlyssesHaq 8 месяцев назад
Shameful attempt at rebranding this shameless, corrupt individual.
@penpaperpower
@penpaperpower 8 месяцев назад
As a lifelong Labour voter, I always liked Theresa May. She had decent principles and in a different situation she would have made a great Prime Minister
@dougallwinship
@dougallwinship 8 месяцев назад
erm, bit awkward to mention this, but she *was* Prime Minister from 2016-2019
@coolio2000
@coolio2000 8 месяцев назад
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT? WINDRUSH, DEMONISATION OF MIGRANTS, DEMENTIA TAX, ARMING OF SAUDI ARABIA IN YEMEN, AUSTERITY????
@penpaperpower
@penpaperpower 8 месяцев назад
@@dougallwinship it's only awkward because you obviously misunderstood what I said. I prefaced my statement by saying 'in a different situation', meaning that if circumstances had been different (ie no Brexit) then her tenure as Prime Minister would likely have been more successful
@RR-sp3ey
@RR-sp3ey 8 месяцев назад
have you forgotten when she shook the money tree and found a billion pounds for the DUP? Not exactly a highly principled person.
@penpaperpower
@penpaperpower 8 месяцев назад
@@RR-sp3ey no, that was factored into my opinion
@darrenr49
@darrenr49 8 месяцев назад
40:00 that book drop was masterful. wow
@klumhru
@klumhru 7 месяцев назад
Great interview. I'm a raging leftie and would spontaneously combust if I ever entered a church, yet this interview was very engaging. Watching you two batting May around was fascinating. I call out the interaction at 40:30 in particular. The sign language is such a sign of good cooperation. You're as if Becker and Federer were ever playing doubles, on the same team. Keep it up.
@noworriesnoproblems6382
@noworriesnoproblems6382 6 месяцев назад
Does it bothered you Campbell is responsible for more suffering and death of children then most people in the history of the world? Or not?
@klumhru
@klumhru 6 месяцев назад
@@noworriesnoproblems6382 The Iraq 2003 war did bother me at the time, yes, as did the 2001 Afghanistan invasion. Blair, Bush, Saddam, and the others directly involved would not make the list of people I'd trust with my children, should I choose to have any. Given the relativity of the question though, no, it didn't bother me as much as reading about Stalin, Pol Pot, Baden-Powell, Hitler, Mao, Putin, or others of their ilk. I did read enough history for that. However, while I keep it at the back of my mind, I do not focus on that when listening to podcasts. It would seem you do, and all I do is hope that it doesn't overly close your mind to nuance and the free exchange of ideas, regardless of their originator.
@robcolclough8431
@robcolclough8431 8 месяцев назад
I listened to the pod cast. I don’t vote Tory, but I felt after listening that here was the last actual genuine politician the Tory’s had as a prime minister. I thought she came across really well.
@ikyiky167
@ikyiky167 8 месяцев назад
As genuine as she is, our bar is now so low she comes across as empathetic and endearing. Don't forget her tenure in the Home Office, the "Hostile environment" etc.
@BeingTheHunt
@BeingTheHunt 8 месяцев назад
I think May's talk about "fairness" regarding immigration is a great example of conservative philosphy. Earlier she talks about the Conservatives being the party that raises people up but it's clear that it is just as important (if not more important) to bring down and punishing "wrong-doers". It is so important that they are punished that it justifies innocent people being caught up in the process.
@bertiescunsbutch9323
@bertiescunsbutch9323 8 месяцев назад
Dr David Kelly R.I.P.
@oliw5863
@oliw5863 8 месяцев назад
Great video, thanks Matt! The costs you quote for getting alloy wheels refurbished always seem pretty reasonable to me. Can you reveal where you go to get this done? Thanks. 😊
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