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My Controversial Favourite Austen Adaptations! 

Beatrice Scudeler
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Hello and welcome back to Lady Disdain Reads. My name is Beatrice and today I'm back with a video on my favourite Austen adaptations!
Check out some great creators who may also have interesting thoughts on Austen adaptations!
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Favourite Austen Adaptations:
- Emma (2020)
- Pride & Prejudice (1995)
- Love and Friendship (2016)
- Metropolitan (1990)
- Clueless (1995)

Special Mentions:
- Persuasion (1995)
- Austenland (2013)
- Death Comes to Pemberley (2013)
My video on Emma:
• Is Emma Woodhouse a Ba...

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@tabithaewert7142
@tabithaewert7142 Год назад
The 2008 Sense and Sensibility miniseries is my favorite adaptation hands down. It's such a faithful and compelling adaptation. Glad to see Love & Friendship and Austenland make your list. I enjoyed both. I will definitely have to check out Metropolitan - thanks for the recommendation! Thanks for the content!
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
Please do check out Metropolitan, it's so good! The 2008 S&S is also very good, agreed!
@maryhamric
@maryhamric Год назад
Agree!!
@heatheralice89
@heatheralice89 9 месяцев назад
I loved the 2020 film of Emma:)
@flavioscudeler
@flavioscudeler Год назад
It is very difficult to disagree with You: Jennifer Ehle is a fantastic Elizabeth Bennet, really indeed, despite the fact, that she's american. Thank You, Beatrice, for this yet another new outpouring of illuminating and contagious expertise. In praise. Flavio 🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞
@snootybaronet
@snootybaronet Год назад
It's nice to hear you're a Whit Stillman and Metropolitan fan. I watch it as one of my Christmas movies every year (since it takes place over Christmas break). Audrey Rouget is my favorite neo-Austen film character! After watching Metropolitan, I have to watch Last Days of Disco, for Audrey's cameo, to be reassured that things turned out 🆗 for her! 😊 I enjoyed your rundown of adaptions.
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
Thank you for your comment! I discovered Whit Stillman relatively recently and love the films I've seen. I enjoyed Last Days of Disco, so definitely recommend it! Metropolitan seems to be a yearly Christmas film for so many people!
@snootybaronet
@snootybaronet Год назад
@@beatrixscudeler Metropolitan is done in such a simple straightforward way, but there are such depths there.
@himbo754
@himbo754 Год назад
Thank you for the recommendation of Metropolitan. I will keep an eye out for that film. I do like both the Persuasion with Amanda Root and the P&P with Jennifer Ehle -- they are my favourite adaptations of those novels. Oh, and good luck with your Ph.D. -- some people have T-shirts that say "Don't ask about my thesis!"
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
I will need to get one of those t-shirts!!!
@fyodor371
@fyodor371 Год назад
FIGHT!!! But first: welcome back! I feel like this video was a late Christmas present, I enjoyed it so much. Your top 5 is a great list, betokening excellent taste...except for Emmafullstop, for which I have a visceral dislike. It's not an absolute catastrophe like Netflix's Persuasion, but I do consider it a misfire, and think your own arguments count against it. First, as you note one of the elements that works so well in Clueless is that it gets the right balance in the character of Cher/Emma. Yes, she is superior, condescending, selfish and entitled, but she also has a kind, generous and caring side. Beneath the spoiled facade there is a goodness in Emma that is the basis for her development and explains why Knightley loves her. Emmafullstop - and I don't blame the actress, AT-J is usually excellent - is too cold and aloof. Emma is oblivious ("clueless") and naive about the effects of her meddling; Emmafullstop doesn't care. This is a huge problem for the movie, because it undermines her character arc and relationship with Knightley - it didn't work at all for me. Second, you nail why Austenland is such a clever, intertextually-aware movie. Austen's genius, the reason why her novels transcend time and culture, lies in the penetration of her insights into human relationships. The bonnets, dresses, dances etc. are just the surface wrapping around stories and characters that have universal appeal. As you say, Austenland parodies the LARPing elements of the superficial fandom extremely well, but cleverly juxtaposes that superficiality with the underlying relationship tropes (bonus that the romantic partner was played by the actor that had portrayed Henry Tilley in another adaptation - the movie is woefully under-appreciated). I mention all this because de Wilde's movie focuses too much on the visuals. I think by far the most common point of praise is that the movie is pretty, and it is. The design, lighting and visual composition have a striking aesthetic, but it's intrusive. It feels confected, arch, hyper-stylised and unnatural, like a deliberate, knowing pastiche. Sometimes it felt like a visual parody and there were too many moments where the director was winking at the audience - "See! Amn't I clever? I snuck in a Handmaid's Tale reference!" The intrusive visual style thus made me resent the degree to which key elements of the story were under-cooked, notably the necessary romantic foils, I.e. Frank Churchill- Jane Fairfax and Knightley- Harriet Smith. The overall effect for me was a "triumph" of style over substance; I think it plays to the worst elements of superficial Austenism (or is it Janeism?), and Iwonder if it contributed to the similarly shallow pastiche effect of the Bridgerton TV adaptation. I was delighted by the inclusion of Metropolitan in your list. I'm going to bowl you a googly on it, though, which is that I don't agree that Audrey Rouget is the Fanny Price character, or at least not the sole analogue for Fanny. I think Tom Townsend has elements of Fanny's character and is the primary protagonist. That is, I think of Tom as a gender-swapped Fanny [OK, sounds rude, but I'm running with it] in the adaptation, with elements of both Fanny and Edmund in his character. What clinches this for me is that he is presented as the "poor relation" thrust into a society where he's acutely conscious of his weaker social standing and lack of flair, and he is earnestly virtuous in a painfully awkward way. Tom's position as the outsider and virtuous observer of the group reminds me much more of Fanny than Edmund. Which is one reason why I find that scene where he quotes Trilling so funny - he IS the character that Trilling declared to be unlikeable. Apologies for the long comment. I'm going to blame you for publishing such a provocatively interesting video.
@fyodor371
@fyodor371 Год назад
P.S. because I was insufficiently verbose, my favourites: 1. P&P 1995 - obvs 2. Persuasion 1995 - the best movie-length adaptation of any Austen novel. 3. You've Got Mail - strictly speaking not an adaptation, as the source is an Hungarian play, but this movie adaptation also borrows heavily from (and references directly, and correctly) P&P. 4. Emma 1996 (the Paltrow one) - Paltrow was Ok in this but it's the rest of the cast that shines in this one. 5) Clueless - what she said 6) Metropolitan - what she said 7) Bridget Jones' Diary - also, strictly speaking, not an adaptation of P&P but stole enough from it to count, I think. The intertextuality alone must award it extra points: Colin Firth plays a character adapted from a book inspired by his own portrayal of the original character in the 1995 TV adaptation of the original book.
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
I'm going to read this in full later after I've put baby to sleep. For now, I'll just say thank you for engaging with such an interesting and long comment. It's given me a lot to think about. When it comes to Emma., I'm very aware that it's polarising for people. I've come to appreciate it as a very intelligent rendition of the novel, but I get why people are put off!! More later...
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
@@fyodor371 ok I'm going to add a few thoughts now: 1. I totally take the criticism of Emmafullstop (I'm running with your name for it, love it haha). Yes the 'prettiness' can sometimes be distracting, can sometimes seem surface level. Yes, it's so clever sometimes it feels on-the-nose self-referential. The reason I maintain it's a great adaptation is, however, for one of the same reasons you dislike it - that Emma is cold and aloof. I agree that AT Joy pushed the aloofness too far, but Emma is SUCH a snob in the novel, and so clearly egotistical, that I prefer her interpretation to others I've seen where Emma is shown to be warm, welcoming, sociable, but just a little silly. Emma is not silly, she may be misguided but she is very intelligent and is misusing her intelligence by being overly snobbish and controlling of others. This is my two cents, but again, I totally understand it's a polarising film, and it took me a few watches to appreciate it. 2. Agreed on everything about Austenland. I love it so much I even wrote about it in a recent paper for my PhD (which will turn into a video that I will hopefully film soon). 3. Very interesting thoughts on Metropolitan being gender swapped - and now I'm also wondering how having a male figure who's the Fanny character (at least partly) affects the plot. I think Audrey and Tom are both mixtures of Fanny and Edmund. What's fascinating about having Audrey be the well-off character instead of Tom is that it changes their dynamic completely at the end of the story: in Mansfield Park, Fanny is mostly a physically static character because she doesn't have the financially means to remove herself from the corruption of Mansfield Park. Instead, she has to stay put (after Portsmouth she returns straight to Mansfield) and, so to speak, purify Mansfield Park from within. Audrey instead, hints that she may be leaving by the end of the film - she is able to remove herself from her current social circle, and we are left to wonder what effect the removal of the moral compass figure will have on her friends. So much interesting stuff here! 4. Agreed that You've Got Mail is a fantastic rom com. I'd forgotten about it so thank you for reminding me - I may end up watching it tonight! Meg Ryan at her peak rom com era is fantastic!!!
@fyodor371
@fyodor371 Год назад
@LDR 1) It's a good point you argue on Emmafullstop's cold-aloofness being more faithful to the book. And I agree that it's a fair criticism of most Emma adaptations that they sugar-coat the character to make Emma more likeable. However, I think this is inevitable when the movie (or TV show) has to work without Austen's narration, which provides the reader with more insight into her personality than the movie-audience receives. As I pointed out with Clueless, there has to be a balance in what is shown of her character: how to convey the snobbery, condescension and manipulation without making her seem cruel or cold? Emmafullstop may be viewed as corrective, in that it pushes the characterisation in the opposite direction from other adaptations but, as I noted, when the character is too cold the rest of the story doesn't work. Thus the character may be argued as more book-faithful, but at the cost of impairing the broader story. 2) YES. Please make a video on Austenland. It's an utter travesty that more people haven't seen it. Please tell me your PhD addresses Austen's influence on Nelly's lyrics. 3) One advantage of gender-swapping the Fanny character is that it enables a more active role for Tom as the protagonist, and that facilitates the comedy, because we're generally more accepting of men making fools of themselves than women. It goes against character, though, because as you point out Fanny's passivity is a defining feature. It does make her more difficult for a modern audience to enjoy, however. Another advantage of the Fanny character being male is that it facilitates the character of Nick Smith as mentor/buddy of Tom. He carries much of the narrative/exposition load, as well as getting most of the good lines. It's fair to see Nick as Stillman's self-insert, but I also like to think of Nick as the male avatar of Jane Austen-as-narrator.
@michaelwalsh2498
@michaelwalsh2498 Год назад
Hello Beatrice, glad to hear things are going well with you! I'm intrigued by your high placement of Stillman's Metropolitan. I'm also a fan of his, and watch his entire oeuvre once a year. I've liked Metropolitan best of all his films. I've been aware of him as an Austen admirer, but I've always experienced his films outside of the clear Austen influences. I think it's because of the way I initially saw the films when they came out. There hasn't been a standout Mansfield Park adaption, and Metropolitan does bring out the themes beautifully. As to my favorite Austen adaption, I thoroughly enjoy the Romola Garai Emma. And I take seriously your critique that Emma is not a likable young woman. But I have to admit, I'm completely charmed by Garai's performance. I like it so much I want Emma to be a nicer person. I'm guilty of immersing myself in this production, and my critical faculties suffer for it. Garai's Emma definitely charms me out of facing the reality of Austen's Emma, until I reread the novel, which I do every few years. I can't disagree on your other picks. I also love the 95 Persuasion. Have a great New Year!
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
Romola Garai is a fantastic Emma and I adore that miniseries, but yes, I think she plays Emma too 'nice'! Still a very enjoyable adaptation. I have discovered Stillman relatively recently and have enjoyed his work tremendously. The only film I'm missing is Barcelona - is it as good as the others?
@michaelwalsh2498
@michaelwalsh2498 Год назад
@@beatrixscudelerYes, it very cleverly deals with 2 American guys in Spain, who seem to get lost in shallow relationships, but find deeper, more meaningful ones very unexpectedly. It's done with great humor. His films are optimistic, but without any illusions about our moral and cultural predicament.
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
@@michaelwalsh2498 ok it may be a late Christmas holidays watch for me then!
@michaelwalsh2498
@michaelwalsh2498 Год назад
@@beatrixscudeler From a publication I'm familiar with, that did an interesting symposium on WS's films some years ago: -BARCELONA (1994) Stillman’s most ambitious film, Barcelona follows the relationship of Fred (Chris Eigeman) and Ted Boynton (Taylor Nichols), two Chicago-born cousins who cross paths in Barcelona, Spain. The movie is a fish-out-of-water tale, making light of how peoples of different nationalities often have trouble understanding each other. But like Metropolitan, Barcelona is so compelling because it subverts an established stereotype about Americans. Rather than making these expats ugly or mean people, Stillman endows Fred and Ted with a great capacity to love. The movie ends like a Shakespearean comedy: everyone gets married and all tension is resolved. Barcelona is the rare instance of fulfillment in the Stillman oeuvre. Only by finding love and settling into marriage can his characters ever truly find happiness. For an extended cultural assessment of Stillman’s work, pick up Mark Henrie’s Doomed Bourgeois in Love from ISI Books.
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
@@michaelwalsh2498 fantastic, thank you!!
@AJansenNL
@AJansenNL Год назад
I thought I'd watched about every adaptation there was. Apparently I missed some. Adding them to my watchlist, now! Thank you. Also, what do you think of Lost in Austen? I loved it. It's hilarious.
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
There are always more adaptations than one thinks 🤣 Lost in Austen is a lot of fun, if you liked it you'll like Austenland!
@AJansenNL
@AJansenNL Год назад
@@beatrixscudeler I liked that one too. But I watched it ages ago, so it's going on my list as well.
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
@@AJansenNL wonderful!
@wraithby
@wraithby Год назад
That is an interesting group of adaptions and Austen inspired works. I haven't seen any of those that create an outright Austen inspired world. I'll have to catch up with those. I've seen the two Whit Stillman films. Metropolitan is an excellent movie. The world he creates in that film is definitely Austen-esque. I guess my go to adaption is the 95 Pride and Prejudice. The fairly recent BBC adaptions from 2008 or 2009 were a decent effort, though not competition for the earlier standouts, they were light years ahead of the recent Persuasion travesty.
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
Agreed and thank you for commenting!
@maryhamric
@maryhamric Год назад
I really disliked the 2020 Emma and Emma is my favorite novel. Visually, it's so beautiful. It just felt rushed, shallow and I didn't feel anything watching it. I didn't care that Emma reformed. I really connected with Emma 2009 and it moved me so very much- so it's my favorite adaptation. I love P&P 1995 too - just watched an episode today. Thank you for the recommendation for Metropolitan. I'm reading Mansfield Park right now. I really loved Austenland too! It's so fun! I read Death Comes to Pemberley some years ago and it's on my list to watch soon now that it's available on PBS. I really did enjoy the 2008 Sense and Sensibility as well as the 1995 version. I do like the 1995 Persuasion and the 2007 version too. They each have emphases I enjoy (Netflix should have rated theirs NC-17 for horror. HA HA). Thank you for sharing your list! I love to hear which adaptations people enjoy. 👍🏻👍🏻
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
And thank you for sharing your thoughts! I must say, the 2020 really only grew on me after the 3rd watch. It's not for everyone, but I ended up appreciating it a lot. The 2009 is very enjoyable for sure!
@avlisdreams3427
@avlisdreams3427 Год назад
Absolutely agree with you on Emma 2020, its an amazing "modern" adaptation that understood the novel as well as Jane Austen's witty humour. Visually, it gorgeous, and, anyone who thinks the movie isn't that good should watch the picnic scene, that's like, maybe the best scene in the movie. Never heard of Metropolitan but the way you describe it it seems worth checking out. Avoided Love&Friendship until now as I feared it was a badly made wanna-be Austen movie, looking forward to watch it now :)
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
Do check out Metropolitan, it's a gem! Thank you for commenting!!
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