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My First Maplestory M Class Ranking of 2024 (I Got A Mage #1?!) | Ep. 63 

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Ranking classes 1-41 for end game content with these parameters:
Lvl 240
50k Attack
30m Cap
210k HP
Which Classes Are The BEST!

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18 сен 2024

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@Jay6Man
@Jay6Man 5 месяцев назад
You need to get me on the podcast to talk blaster :) after the update we are much much much better. As well, mobile is now almost identical to emulator. Overall solid list but i can convince you blaster dps is enough to get into a damien team :)
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Oooh need to see the content! Glad to hear blasters are better than I thought.
@jyauamsm371
@jyauamsm371 5 месяцев назад
i super excited when saw revamp in kms, when the patch finally came to msm im in tears xD
@MrPlatano11
@MrPlatano11 4 месяца назад
I’m forever thankful I came back to the game, wanted to make a bishop, someone convinced me to make Sia. Been clearing lotus Weekly, yesterday we had 10 lives left in lotus run. I’m not even 17m mdc yet
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 4 месяца назад
Sia op. Great choice
@ricka8665
@ricka8665 5 месяцев назад
Hi echo keep it up! looking forward to a end game DW player podcast 😊
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
I knowww I’m sorry… hopefully soon
@NofacesMSM
@NofacesMSM 5 месяцев назад
Great and thoughtful content as always!! I main lumi myself. In your opinion, where does lumi stand in the tier list at 40m MDC range?
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Appreciate you. Lumi very much insane at all levels. Best pure dps class in the game until probably end end end game where merc will be #1.
@veggieavocado
@veggieavocado 3 месяца назад
Probably not a huge thing but something that DS provide in parties is leech aura which is very strong healing imo. Sadly it doesn’t show on battle analysis.
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 3 месяца назад
Yeah I mentioned that. Hugeeee party heal. So op
@BedOChaos
@BedOChaos 5 месяцев назад
The kinesis rebalance was more of a nerf lol cost us abt 200 lines per burst only because they lowered v1 dps intervals so we can output more dmg faster but the .25 was only added to p1 of the v skill p2 is still running at .50 i addressed it to the admins and mods maybe its a bug. The skill itself is workable and more viable for long boss content like damian for situations like him runing away or teleing we can still output the same 1.1k lines without missing dmg but at the cost of a 2 min cooldown instead of 1 so hard to tell if its what we needed. The one added line for metal press was the best thing so far lmao even tho kms is 24 lines and here is 16 now
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Sad to hear. Hopefully it works out for the better. Still early. Excited for More testing
@Teech_
@Teech_ 5 месяцев назад
Your list is pretty solid id say Thunder breaker top 20. Mercedes, hero or dk deserves top 10. People say demon slayer needs a buff but is seems you hold it in high regards. Battle mage has a helaing aura but it heals 1% every 5 seconds when attacking..that's so ridiculous.
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Yeahhhh I think I oversold TB. For sure those 3 classes you mentioned are so good. I think most have them in top 10 for sure
@KM-6666
@KM-6666 5 месяцев назад
WA is much more fun and playable with v3 shield. On the surface it feels kinda underrated, esp bcus it's not a real , but it has 50% uptime and deals dmg - soo good lol the remaster also made v1 howling gale line up with DS4 perfectly, so it's all so easy to manage now. Hope to see some of the classes in much need of a buff climb to the top & get their time to shine like lumis did.
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
I agree with everything you said. Howling Gale burst and that v3 shield are sooooo good.
@Brolyyy777
@Brolyyy777 5 месяцев назад
LOL Willhelt showed me his #1 ranking in Damien for PF. Proud of my fellow PFs
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Carried meeee
@Brolyyy777
@Brolyyy777 5 месяцев назад
@@EchoMSM I missed you too
@xen0cide45
@xen0cide45 5 месяцев назад
Shade top 5 let's go baby! Now to 2x mdc
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
So good.
@Patrick-ct4hl
@Patrick-ct4hl 5 месяцев назад
we gonna have to argue about that DS > Shad but foochu keeps proving that shad superiority
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Lmfaooo two of my favorite classes. That’s why I had them right next to each other in ranking. Maybe I’m a bit bias to ds I can admit that 🙈🤣
@mostawesomestnamever
@mostawesomestnamever 5 месяцев назад
When you talk about Mercedes as being purely DPS, does this mean that the dmg reduction from unicorn and spikes is negligible? With hypers they can combine for 40% damage red.
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Ohhh the debuff… yeah maybe it is pretty impactful. Good point. I haven’t really Noticed. You may be right tho.
@xDashx_23
@xDashx_23 5 месяцев назад
@@EchoMSM In my humble opinion, when talking about a pure dps Merc, the dmg reduction debuffs shouldn't be taken into consideration for a number of reasons. 1. As an all-out dpser, Merc shouldn't even be taking the debuff hypers in the 1st place, ie, Hypers all go into Ishtar x3 Ignis x2 to maximise damage since over half of Merc's lines will pretty much never cap due to the nature of them being clones lines. So instead of the 20+20% debuff, it is only a 10+10% debuff without the hypers. 2. The unicorn + spike debuffs only lasts for 10s each, and taking into consideration the slow skill animation in mobile (unlike in PC where you can spam chain skills) that is about 2s required to cast the spells, you are not going to actively reuse the debuffs once every 10s because it totally messes up the attacking momentum of Ishtar and it also messes up the character's positioning (eg. actively using spike in lotus lasers phase pretty much = an instant death) 3. Merc can do way more damage using Ishtar/Irkalla for that few extra seconds "wasted" to cast the debuffs, since at late-game bossing with food buffs, most of the party members would already be hitting cap with or without the debuff, which means the only people who may even benefit from the debuffs are Merc herself and party members who cannot hit cap. 4. Merc is very reliant on skills timing and cooldown to maximise her 1min burst damage when clones + unicorn Vskills are up since Merc is pretty much a dead duck when all her Vskills are on cooldown. Therefore, it is very unlikely any Merc will want to spend time repeatedly casting debuffs during her burst phase. And when the burst phase is over, casting the debuffs kind of became redundant since there are no longer active clone lines (which are the lines that could do with the buffing up), and the main Ishtar lines should be capping all the time anyway unless you are talking about 40-50mil mdc which I doubt any Merc is even near that to talk about less maybe Frenchies. Only time a Merc would actively cast spike/unicorn/wrath is to reset Ignis's timer. Or unless for whatever reason you are a support Merc there to boost up the party's overall damage. With all things considered, the debuffs are only good for theory talk, but impractical skills in reality usage. Just my 2 cents' worth. Tyvm! (:
@mostawesomestnamever
@mostawesomestnamever 5 месяцев назад
@@xDashx_23 2 Cents? more like a highly informative essay, thank you very much for that. I'm on the merc discord with you btw, nice to find you in the wild haha.
@myfireburnswithin
@myfireburnswithin 5 месяцев назад
Shout-out to sensei, da number 1 Sia hehehehehe
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
lol we love sensei
@user-xg4ov1ck3x
@user-xg4ov1ck3x 5 месяцев назад
Need a strong DK podcast😂
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Where they at?
@HelloTalay
@HelloTalay 5 месяцев назад
From my experiense , DW its good only in 20sec and have 3mins cooldown :(
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Really?! I heard they are insaneee
@HelloTalay
@HelloTalay 5 месяцев назад
@@EchoMSM Their burst is insanse tho (3 skills V1,2,3 V2andV3 20sec duration and V1 10sec) then they have to wait 3mins to burst only 10sec again. They cooldown is little to long. Might have to wait untill V4 come is active passive skill doing damage every 8sec. maybe it would help a lot while in 3mins cooldown.
@bonbongaming6995
@bonbongaming6995 5 месяцев назад
Didnt they fixed Blaster? Shouldnt Blaster be around top 11-20?
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
My biggest issue is gameplay mobile vs emulator. As far as I know, the difference is significant.
@PKcrash
@PKcrash 5 месяцев назад
BW gains more dps by playing on emu? Why am I just now hearing about this lol
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Apparently… according to geminis
@dopele7237
@dopele7237 5 месяцев назад
Any idea of dawn warrior lines/3 min ?
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
I think it’s 17-18k. Very good.
@iantru9929
@iantru9929 2 месяца назад
Is rebalance out yet?
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 2 месяца назад
Yessir
@sigedik88
@sigedik88 5 месяцев назад
i thought blaster is getting better with new update.
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Possibly
@JulianB-uh1lo
@JulianB-uh1lo 5 месяцев назад
NL should definitely be higher in the rankings
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Where you got them?
@IvanHo-cv8vu
@IvanHo-cv8vu 5 месяцев назад
Frailty Curse kinda a good debuff no?
@JulianB-uh1lo
@JulianB-uh1lo 5 месяцев назад
@@EchoMSM top 20 somewhere in the middle
@allen28713
@allen28713 5 месяцев назад
When are we gonna get a big rebalance
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Great question. I thought it was gonna be this patch
@simong3820
@simong3820 5 месяцев назад
Why NL is so low ranking?
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Dmg is mehhh… survivability is worst.
@simong3820
@simong3820 2 месяца назад
Hope they will buff soon
@bobthebuilderwecandoit
@bobthebuilderwecandoit 5 месяцев назад
adele too high
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
You think?! 🙈👀
@Edduh
@Edduh 5 месяцев назад
Buff NW
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Buff Edward
@meouby2
@meouby2 5 месяцев назад
V4
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
You read my mind 😎
@BagOfSuck
@BagOfSuck 5 месяцев назад
Blasters fall from grace is a tragedy
@EchoMSM
@EchoMSM 5 месяцев назад
Quite sad. A lot of great clssses got better as blasters are still searching
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