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Fun Fact: When Gwen shouted "PETER!", it wasn't in the script and was just a genuine reaction from the actress. The director loved it so much that they left it in
The death of Gwen Stacy (which occurred 50 years ago in 1973) is considered to be one of the landmark moments in comic book history. It was the first time the superhero failed to save his love interest, and marks the end of an age of "innocence" in superhero comics. More specifically, it is generally said to be the event that marks the end of the "Silver Age" of Comic Books -- giving way to the "Bronze Age" of Comic Books. In the original story, she died at the hands of the Green Goblin as well (except it was Norman, not Harry). For most comic book fans who went to see this movie in the theater, the moment we saw that the Green Goblin was going to be the villain in a movie featuring Gwen Stacy, we could see this coming.
def looks the best the plot i personally love it but can see why people would hate on it, but imo no other spiderman movie is on on the level of tasm 1 and 2 cgi
Its good from a visual and art perspective. But the story isn’t that good because they had to rush in with the Sinister six which led to nowhere. So it basically ended up like the Spiderman 3 situation
@@JOKER-py9np And..Controversial opinion, but this movie's version of Green Goblin is better than Willem Defoe's version imo. Sam Raimi's Goblin was suffering from a split personality disorder, with an evil half taking over the body.. But what I like about this one - is that there's no new personality taking hold... It's just a twenty year-old man, unwanted by his father, betrayed by his friend, framed by his company, left to die a horrible death with no one to go to....Pushed over the edge, slowly losing it until his desperate attempt to survive turns him into a freak, and all he wants to do now is to make his only friend bleed for stripping him of all his hope. TASM 2 Goblin is an actually intimidating, scary, psychotic villain...And that's who he truly turned into...There's no recovering from that, no cure...Just a broken man with a ruined life and a shattered mind
@@almas4663ehh I can see why. But I like Williams version better. This one doesn’t have enough build up since he only pops up in Amazing Spider-Man 2 and everything shows up almost at once , without any build up for us to feel connected to Harry in this,
@@mr.patriotjol Disagree. The chemistry TASM 2 Peter and Harry build over this one movie feels more genuine and heartfelt than a whole trilogy of Raimi Harry. They were barely even friends from the start. TASM 2 reunion scene however just so good that it's almost like Harry was there from the start. You don't need a flashback or something, to feel that these two care for each other deeply
Gwen Stacy does die in the comics and is meant to be his main lover. There was even a part in the comic where although he’s with MJ, he still grieves her death.
I don’t think Peter and Gwen’s relationship was toxic at all. They each control their own lives, so whatever happens is their fault. Gwen knew of the risks, but even though they existed she preferred to live her life with Peter, even if it meant it would kill her one day. And Peter, even though he knew keeping Gwen alongside him would just put her on a dangerous spot, he knew she can make her own decisions, she’s not a dumbass female character like Mary Jane in Tobey Maguire’s SM, so they actually were a pretty solid couple. Marc Webb really knows how to write a romance, I hope they give him one more chance with TASM3, but this time with a better writer.
"She can make her own decisions" Lmao so basically you're saying Spidey allowed Gwen to perform suicide cause that's what she wants to do, is that it? MJ is trash but if Gwen's death wasn't canon, she would've been in the same boat.
Yeah I'm sorry I can't condone stuff like this. I really don't see how people can watch these movies and their takeaway be that their relationship isn't toxic. Gwen doesn't respect any of her partner's wishes, yes you should be able to make your own decisions in a relationship but that doesn't mean actively going against your partner's decisions. A firefighter isn't going to want their none experienced partner to be helping them fight a fire, and they shouldn't be demonized for not wanting that. It's a level of empowerment that tips back over onto the wrong side, and it's such a harmful message to be spreading. It's pretty clear the movie isn't suggesting that their relationship was a good one, otherwise the movie would make a point to justify Gwen's actions, and while she does help take down Eletctro (mind you the movie makes a point to establish that Gwen was able to help fight Electro without physically being there, as she helps Peter find a way to keep his web shooters from frying), it ultimately justifies Peter's reluctance with Gwen getting caught up in a scramble she had no involvement in, just to be used to hurt Peter and her death was completely meaningless. I feel like since the Spiderman movies are some of the few superhero related properties where the partner doesn't get upset over the hero risking themselves being a superhero, people just automatically pose them as being a positive relationship when that couldn't be further from the truth and they're just exploring a different negative side.
Mary Jane in the Raimi movies really sucked when you think about it. She cheats on every single boyfriend/fiance she has and strings Pete along hard. Not to say Pete was always in the right, but it's like Raimi never actually talked to a woman.
@@Whispernyan Why are you on about...you just made a shit ton of false equivalencies and misunderstand each circumstance that led up and the moment of Gwens death ffs.
@@user-qe1ys4vj2d Did I, the only equivalency I made is comparing Spiderman to being a Firefighter, which not only is a completely adept comparison, but it actually underplays Spiderman's situation since last time I checked Fire doesn't go out of it's way hurt Firefighters. Gwen was told to stay out of the burning house, she didn't listen, she got burnt, there's nothing more to it the fact you call that a false equivalency is extremely worrying.
In the comics, Electro is so powerful he can fight toe to toe with Thor He is one of the most threatening and powerful enemies Spider-Man ever had, in fact he is second only cause' of Molecular Man, who is essentially powerful at infinity gauntlet level
That's not the generic electro you're talking about most electros aren't as threatening and badass like TASM2's Electro Every character has a very op version in some universe obviously but this electro was still one of the more stronger iterations of the character
Yeah, Electro is definitely one of the more OP villains. Dude is a miniature Dr. Manhattan. When Goblin gave the god speech in NWH, I was thinking that the only one there who could really go toe to toe with an MCU god is Jamie Foxx. Tbf, Willem Dafore could probably hang it with Loki. He's not overly strong, and we saw that he's tricky even for Dr. Strange.
7:31 nah the reason she says it like that is because, like she said they've gone through this situation before of Peter wanting to break up with her cause of her dad loads of times before so she's the one that's breaking up with him now that's why she puts that emphasis on the "i", she's kind of saying like "I'm fed up of this cycle"
Yeah, that's how she died in the comics... except that instead of her head hits the pavement, how fast she was falling and how Peter sent the web to catch her it actually snapped her neck because of the force of a sudden stop when she was caught by the web in the same way. Different but very very similar. When the time came I was bracing myself because I knew she was going to meet the same fate as her comic book counterpart. Knowing what was going to happen, I still cried. Sad in the comic, sad in cinema. Great reaction. :)
@mikelarsen5836 agreed, a lot of the characters in Marvel movies seem new to him. However, it's fun to watch people discover it all for the first time.
The Flash, Superman, and Spidey are the _nicest_ heroes in fiction. That pep talk is just par for the course for the likes of those three. They fight not because they’re: Seeking vengeance, on a mission, or because they’re somehow broken. They fight for what’s right, because it’s right, and because they _actually_ care.
Yeah. All spidermans are very well done. Tobey is nostalgic and superheroeic.He is superhero. Andrew is one of the best teenager movie. It is truly spiderman. Tom is tech genius and funny. He deserves to be in Avengers. Oh the flash series. Oh my god. Iconic villians. Reverse flash, Zoom, Savitar, Megamind guy. The best trilogical seasons. On of the greatest show series of this century. My top is as a series The flash amd as a movie Spiderman. Superman is good enough.
Deleted scene of the funeral: his father survived the plane crash and meets peter at gwens grave. They have a heartfelt moment peter is mad at him Also at the end scene with rhino in a cafe u can see a red haired Girl. Mary jane which was supposed to be his next love interest 🤫🔥
To be fair... The dad said: "Leave Gwen, out of this." He never said stop being with her... Her basically said leave her out of the Spider-Man business... (To be fair that statement can go either way but still, you get what I mean... And I'm sure that's the logic Peter arrived at too when making the decision to get back with her in the last movies end
Fun fact the Oxford response from Peter was on the fly by Andrew. Sad times that we never got a amazing spider man 3 considering we got to see all the suits of the Spidey villains at the end.
The thing is.. Peter and Gwen knew the risk of being in a relationship. We saw from the first movie that Gwen is well aware, supportive, and always wants to help Peter/Spider-Man even if it’s dangerous. So even though Peter did try to keep his distance and even though Gwen also tried to move on. Obviously, they still love, care, and worry about each other. I love how active Gwen is and how she’s not the damsel in distress. She is intelligent and literally helps Peter find a way to defeat Electro..just like what she did in the last movie. But yeah.. they decided to stay together despite the risks. I feel like they didn’t expect to lose each other so fast after deciding to stay together. But this has always been Gwen and Peter’s fate.. whether it was a Gwen timeline or Peter timeline..there’s always death. As someone already mentioned in the comments Peter actually had gfs more so when he went to college. But he’s not as geeky or not good with the ladies as people think he is.. in the comic books..Peter is more so a drifter..not so much an outsider. He doesn’t categorize or belong in a group or “trope”. He’s indeed intelligent, but still quite socially awkward at times which causes him to get bullied. Although he had crushes and interests in some girls, Gwen was like his legit serious relationship. There’s also iterations of Gwen and MJ being friends and when Gwen died, MJ came to comfort Peter when he was grieving. There was actually a MJ casted for this movie, Shailene Woodley actually shot some scenes with Andrew and Emma. But I guess writers/producers felt that it might be too much to introduce MJ so quickly after Gwen’s death. But you do get see a glimpse of MJ in the ending scene when Rhino causes chaos in the city. You see a diner and a girl with red hair behind the counter..that was Shailene but of course they didn’t show a close up of her. But there were pictures of her in the same outfit in the same area. It’s such a shame they couldn’t get TASM3 going due to TASM2 not making a lot of money and the criticism writing wise that it got at the time.
It’s very well known that her death is iconic for those who read comics😂 she wears the exacts outfit in the comics when she dies I’ve seen this before so I’ve cried plenty
It was much worse in the comics. In the movie, his web flexes and her head hits the pavement. In the comics, his web stops her descent immediately, and the force of the sudden stop snapped her neck/spine. She would've died from the fall either way, but Pete has to live with the guilt that it was Spider-Man's web, him _directly_ that unintentionally killed her.
Her head didn’t hit the payment in this one. If it did, it would’ve cracked open she’s suspended above the ground it’s her back that’s broken and snapped and killed her. Her next broken her backs broken she died instantly, but she never hit the ground.
@@tracim3080 Watch the movie? Her body hits the ground with a loud thud, her head snaps back to the ground, and she only bounces back into suspension on the web because of the elasticity of Peter's web.
@@billbill6094 you watch the movie it never hit the ground that’s loud thud snap you heard is her back breaking from the tension in the web If she hit the ground, there would be blood Also, you can look it up. She died from her neck, breaking from the snap of the cord, not from hitting the ground
@@tracim3080 Just looked at the scene in .25 speed. Her head hits the ground. I even looked at the script and there is nothing specified about her back snapping or excluding her head impacting. You are factually wrong about this. Not that I needed to look it up given how many times I had seen it already since theaters in 2014 but just for your sake, and you're wrong.
Fun fact, when Gwen yelled "Peter!" instead of "Spider-man!" and then covered her mouth in shock, it was actually not in the script, Emma Stone made a mistake, but the producers found it funny/cool and left it in the movie. At least that's what I've heard on the internet some time ago lol
Btw in the comics captain Stacy wishes for Peter to protect Gwen after he dies saving a child from falling rubble but Gwen blames Peter for her dads death but they couldn’t stay far away from each other tho
to answer your question, the death of gwen stacy is something that happened in the comics, and it was the first time a superhero didn’t save his love interest in comics
i feel really bad about gwen because they were the perfect couple gwen was a total catch and peter almost always had gwen's back sure they had a little falling out but im sure they could have snapped back
There was a famous saying in comics that only two characters will ever stay dead in comics...Uncle Ben and Gwen Stacy...every other character came back in some way
Not a single one of my friends believed me when I told them gwen would die. But I was the only comic reader of my friends. So when I saw the scene I legit went "here it comes." And the gasps my friends just shrugged. Usually whoever gwen lives, she Peter dies and she becomes spider Gwen. Also usually, he does try to pull up, but spiderman is so powerful he accidently jerks too hard in order to catch her before she hits the ground that he breaks her neck. They thought that might be too dark for the movie. So they had the head hit cement.
I feel like she also snapped her neck/back you can see her body get whip lashed from the web right before her head hits the ground on top of the sound effect that was played. Although this is my opinion.
He actually got her in time, the problem was whiplash. The momentum caused her neck to snap when he stopped her body. It’s the reason she’s not bleeding and her brains aren’t splattered on the ground. Her head did not hit the ground. What you heard wasn’t her head hitting the floor, it was the sound of her neck snapping.
@@py16667 No, even if she was 20 feet high when he caught her, she would've died. He did catch her in time, he just caught her wrong. By saying, "He caught her in time", I was merely saying that he prevented her from hitting the ground, which he did.
@@marvin3992 That's true in the comics but in the movie they changed it, her head hits the pavement. I guess they decided it was more clear for viewers what happened or something.
You've probably been told already, this is one of the most impactful moments in the comics. This was the moment that the superhero protagonist didn't win and wasn't able to save the love interest character. MJ came after Gwen, which is why you were wondering who is gwen and why is she here in these movies. The other comparable story in DC is the death of Robin. There are 4 main people who became Robin in the comics, one of them was killed by the Joker but he was revived and appears in later comics.
The reason why the original trilogy and TASM1 were memorable, was because of the producer LAURA ZISKIN It was because of her and her husband (the screenwriter Alvin Sargent) that the movies had depth AVI ARAD on the other hand, just wanted to use the movies to sell toys Unfortunately, she died in 2011, during the production of TASM1 Without her, there was no one to stop Arad from destroying the franchise Spider-Man was nothing without her
TASM1 not only had the writer from SPIDERMAN 2, but also had a writer from the HARRY POTTER movies, and a writer from ZODIAC All because of LAURA ZISKIN TASM2 on the other hand, had the writers from TRANSFORMERS All because of AVI ARAD
I...don't know how you feel about this? Is that good or bad? LOL Edit: I scrolled further down reading other comments, recognized your all capped names, double-checked your username, and now see how you feel about this 😂
@@Zombiesnyder13 No, but people--especially since NWH--seem really divided on whether TASM was amazing or terrible. And I haven't seen or don't remember most of the other movies you referenced. It's all good though. I realize what you meant now because I saw your other comment LOL
Sorry but this is my favourite Spiderman movie behind NWH. It gets lots of hate but the visuals are amazing and eventhough this Goblin is a bit questionable i still love the characters, espcially electro and Peters relationship with Gwen. Andrews spiderman has the best quips, personality, shots etc imo
When Peter and Gwen are in a relationship one of them dies that's why the Gwen from the Tobey Maguire spider man 3 Gwen didn't die because in the original script Gwen was supposed to be in the taxi not Mary Jane but it made more sense for harry to get involved if Mary Jane was in the taxi. Also Spider-Man healing is incredible he can heal from fatal injuries overnight some wounds that would take six months will heal in a day or two for him.
Because noone is mentioning it. Fun fact: her head never actually hit the pavement. She died bc of the force of his web pulling her while she was falling so technically Peter killed gwen.
9:18 lemme explain here what max is going through (Jamie Fox). Max has a genius level IQ pretty sure hes an engineer or scientist because why would he work at oscorp if he was stupid or not some type of genius engineer and physicist. Oscorp is a research and development company for weapons and new technology so to work there you need to be able to build design or invent tech or maintain. max is having his original invention stolen from him because he didnt think to get a patent. Max is (reasonably) angry because his ideas are getting stolen and used without any pay or credit to his name. he is a little off but probably hasn't gotten therapy in many years if ever. He is getting treated shit at work by his boss and he is just angry and sad all the time, But i bet he makes hella money so that's why he endures working at oscorp. so all these factors play into increasing his mental instability rather than decreasing it also making it gradually much worse until he breaks and becomes a villain. FYI (electro's color scheme in the comics is a yellow face mask and a greeen and yellow suit and he has yellow lightning powers or electricity instead of what they went with in this movie the blue color popwers and a black suit which i like both can't decide which is best eh yo if you read this lemme know ur fav electro variant.
I know reaction is months old but just came to say...Don Peter is Aunt May’s son, get that THROUGH YOUR head😂shit pissed me off, “he’s not your son” yes he is😂she was the one who raised him Ranting a bit here😂
I agree his parents left him with Aunt May and Uncle Ben when Peter was 6 yrs old so by the time of this movie 12yrs had gone by and he is now 18.She may only be his Aunt but she was the one who was always there for him so she has every right to say he's her boy.
Yes. Most of the times in the comics Gwen dies if involved with Spidey. Not including Spider-Gwen ones. Actually in the main comic Gwen was Peter's first love. Then she died and only then MJ comes in.
"yyyeeeaaahhh its fine.. we just stab people!!" lol. Also yup she died, this happened in the comics too. Gwen Stacy was Spider Mans first girlfriend before Mary Jane. But they were fighting green goblin, green goblin threw her off a building and while spider man did catch her with a web WELL before she got close to the ground, her abruptly stopping after moving.falling so fast broke her back and she died, so spider man, enraged killed green goblin by making him get impaled by his own glider. Years later Peter eventually gets over it, moves on and meets Mary Jane,... and well we all know that story
Fun fact: That Felicia girl is Black Cat, another character from the Marvel comics (very similar to DC’s Catwoman) but obviously didn’t see her in costume in this movie. If you’ve played Spiderman PS4 you should know who Black Cat is.
Gwen is always supposed to die... (she was supposed to die in the Tobey Maguire - Spiderman 3 movie as well) Well... except that she doesn't die in the Spiderverse, where Peter dies instead of Gwen in her universe...
44:46 On the right side you can see bars that she could've stood on if Peter tried to swing her to the right. I hate her death! I love this movie once I ignore the flaws.
Why do so many reactors think Gwen's head hit the ground? It did NOT, her neck snapped due to the whiplash caused by the web abruptly stopping her fall.
