And why not compare to 15 Million masterpiece? The comparison is about the human characters and in Monsterverse the problem is again them...they cant learn from their own mistakes. Why the critics didn't like Godzilla vs Kong(previous movie)??? We didn't have Minus One? What is your explanation for that?
@@giannisksanthopoulos4300 because they’re not the same type of movie. Yes, they’re both Kaiju movies. But one is about the aftermath of an atomic bomb while the other is just a fun popcorn flic. Not all kaiju movies need to be serious and grounded.
I hate that most of the negative reviews are mostly comparing it to Minus One. They act as if it's the only Godzilla film that matters. Minus One getting a lot of praise is great, but not if that praise comes at the expense of the rest of the franchise. The sad thing is that this type of discourse is only going to hurt the film's reputation in the long run...
Well, it’s just like Jurassic Park. How do you go from an intelligent, engaging, emotionally charged sci-fi movie with elements of action into a cheap facsimile of itself with every film? We had a gem with Minus One and then took a major step back with the Godzilla series that came out a couple months ago and with this film. We had a chance at creating a really interesting world for these characters, and they said “fuck it, make another Transformers film! Let’s sell some toys!”
@user-jq4fz6co8b Absolutely braindead take. Not to mention straight up disrespectful to godzilla in its entirety, considering 90% of godzilla movies are like GxK. Get out of here with your out of touch tourist takes.
@@user-jq4fz6co8b What's hilarious is you acting like you understand this franchise when you didn't even give a single glance at this franchise til December 1st 2023 when minus 1 came out. That's what's ironic, stop trying to defend or explain a franchise you didn't care for before, and still don't care for 😂. If you're not a fan, that's fine but don't discuss a topic you don't care for and don't know much about. We went from minus 1 to gxk cause the franchise always did that, it's a versatile franchise with a versatile character but you wouldn't know that since you only seen 1 G flick and think you understand the character when you only understand his original message. Not the character overall.
Shimo really was the best puppy ;) I liked GxK, but I would definitely have enjoyed more Godzilla. Godzilla -1 was a fantastic movie, and I absolutely loved it. The monsterverse is quite a different style. :)
@giannisksanthopoulos4300 Yes, a very different writing style. Godzilla -1 had much better writing, especially for the humans. I was very invested in the humans for G-1. I wasn't invested in the human stories in GxK.
I'm hooing to get to see the movie with my wife and a good couple of friends on Monday. I've been trying to avoid spoilers, but the Internet seems unwilling to let people experience things for themselves. I see so many things just because I'm in the fandom that I have to try and make myself ignore or "forget" just to try going in as blind as can be. I'm super excited.
I saw it yesterday and while I enjoyed it, it was likely my least favorite of the monsterverse. My main criticism is a personal thing and it’s just that I wish Godzilla was utilized differently. While it was cool, it’s really felt like an after thought. I think it’s just because I care more about Godzilla than Kong as a character, so this basically being a Kong movie without the quality film making that skull island has left me underwhelmed. To be fair though, when I first saw it GvK was my least favorite but now it’s the one I find myself rewatching the most so I’ll see if this grows on me more.
I saw it in IMAX with a huge crowd and everyone had a blast with the movie. It was the exact opposite of Godzilla Minus One and I was totally fine with that. Had a lot of fun and I’m excited to check it out again.
I’m with you, man. I had such a great time with this movie, it definitely did a really good job of using Kong as the main character. Some of the small cutaways to his reactions to things are my favorite parts of the movie. And I got a Kong cup topper, I didn’t even know you could get a Scar King one like you had haha. I had a spoiler warning with a few points typed out here about some things you mentioned, but then got to the end of the video where you said “keep it spoiler free” so I’m editing my comment. That’s what I get for not finishing the video before commenting.
Saw it yesterday. Was extremely fun. Similar to your thoughts, I thought this film was basically a big-budget Hollywood version of what I've always wanted to see in a Godzilla animated series. (But the showa illustration fits as well) Say what you will about the Netflix CG trilogy, or Singular Point, they just miss the mark for me. Im pretty basic, and a "monster of the week" formula as seen in the Godzilla animated series based on (of all things) the 1998 Godzilla, was probably the best thing to come from that character. Id actually love to see the Monsterverse continued as a cartoon/animated series. They already have the toys, the setup is there. Id love to see a animated series based on IDW's "Rulers of Earth". Something we've never had would be a "monster of the week" type Godzilla series, but it included all the other Toho Kaiju. That would be my dream Godzilla animated series.
As a newer godzilla fan thanks to my wife, i very much loved the movie! It’s a great theatre viewing movie, the perfect amount of cheese and trope to make it silly without being annoying, and i left very happy with the whole thing, having seen all of the movies tied to this one before hand (and just having started with monarch: legacy of monsters!) i was initially not vibing with trapper, he definitely grew on both me and my gf, and we were pleased not to see a full romance between him and the dr at the end, because we felt it was unnecessary (mostly personal taste). I’d say it’s not necessarily a good movie to get INTO the fandom with unless you’re pretty young, but it’s definitely fun and even with my limited knowledge of the lore was great to enjoy. Also tiamat looked SO SO cool. I loved it so much. I saw minus one in theaters with my dad. I cried at the end, it was amazing and emotional and a perfect film in so many ways but it’s not the same as the current line of films, and that’s good. I think it’s an incredible standalone and i think it is an AMAZING film and would tell anyone to see it in the same breath i’d recommend godzilla x kong, wirh the caveat of the huge tonal difference
I really enjoyed New Empire. Yes there were problems, like there being low stakes and Skar King did not feel as threatening as say Mechagodzilla or Ghidorah. Shimonon the other hand felt sympathetic since she was being forced to kill. It is an escapist film and I appreciate it for that. Definitely more entertaining than Ghostbusters
Just as there can be many different takes on Batman, there can be many different takes on Godzilla. I love Batman TAS. It was a serious take that I can watch over and over. I also love Brave & the Bold, it is just so much Fun! Minus One was simply amazing, and looked impressive. GxKTNE was just so fun to see all my toys in the toybox bash each other. Exactly what I wanted from it.
Just because a movie is not objectively a 10/10 doesn’t mean it has no entertainment or enjoyment factor. I’d argue -1 is one of the best Godzilla movies. But GxK is one of the most fun. That’s how I’d put it.
I do agree with your problem with Godzilla, he seemed too damn overpowered in this movie to even need Kong's help at all. He was pretty much fighting each villain just fine. Wished the villains were at least of a threat to him.
I mean, when you’re in a form that is stronger than the one who 3 shotted Ghidorah, I highly doubt you will last even 10 seconds. Shimo surviving to the end is pratically a miracle.
I loved it ❤ It brought me back to the Showa and Heisei era of Godzilla. I liked that Skar King made me hate his guts because that's how a villain is supposed to make you feel. Skar king was a Tyrant who uses his cunning and intimidation, cruelty and slavery.
(0:41) I think thats a well put analogy. I said something similar awhile back about how we all enjoy good gourmet food but at the same time we still have some fast food once awhile. 🥩😋👍🍔 (4:28) I was gonna say I feel like Godzilla had more to do in this movie than he did in the last film (at least thats how I felt while watching the film). 🧊🦖🤔🤷📽⏱
This movie was bonkers just big dumb fun kaiju bashing fun, human story plot was there but didn't overshadow at all. Definitely showa feels. My only con is the soundtrack is lacking.
Yep, enjoyed the shit out of this film including the plot device. Much better executed than GVK. The wife and i had a lengthy review but it does consist of spoilers which people should avoid until they have seen the film.
Glad the movie is good and does a lot of cool things, though with the overall consensus of Godzilla playing a side character in this does give me the impression maybe its time for Wingard to toss the baton to someone else, he's a great director but his Kong bias has been incredibly obvious, Would you say this finishes Kong's journey as a character and that the focus may change back to Godzilla in the next movie?
Honestly I quite enjoyed it. It does have its flaws I’m not going to lie however the monster action was pretty awesome! The human characters were okay I thought most of them were underutilized. I don’t mind if Kong was the focus but I felt that Godzilla could have used more screen time to keep it balanced. I’m not saying I’m happy with the film but overall it was just spectacle over substance type of film. I’m curious what will they do next since Adam Wingard has an idea for a sequel for both Kong and especially Godzilla. Which I hope we get a Godzilla focused movie next since I think Kong’s character arc felt kind of complete with this movie. And it would be nice if the Big G as well as the other titans get fleshed out more. But those are just my thoughts. I saw it in IMAX with friends and the experience was great!
Traffic was crazy, so I got there minutes before the movie was gonna start. My brother got there in time to snag the last two popcorn tins and I will be forever grateful! 😂
The biggest issue with the film for me is the underutilization of skar king, Shimo, Godzilla, and of course what you pointed out the rush and convenient handling of the beast glove and g and k’s relationship. None of that really destroyed my enjoyment of the film though. I still loved it
Similar feeling for me overall. Not too much bothered me with it. It was fun. Feels like it was the best way to go after GVK and I actually liked it much more. Wouldn’t mind getting separate movies next time.
It's not perfect but I enjoyed it. I would have more of Skar King and Shimo, they were so underutilized. The final fight should have been longer, much, much longer.
People make the mistake of comparing the tones of Minus One and this film. Minus One isn’t a fantastic film just because they went with a darker tone, it’s because it is clearly a passion project. This is a film Yamazaki has wanted to make for a long time and it’s apparent in everything from the writing and effects to the music and characters. It is one of the most well crafted films I’ve seen in a while. I think many make the mistake of believing that if a film is homaging the Showa era the story doesn’t have to be good and the characters can be flat since those films didn’t always have the best showing in those categories. It’s been 50+ years since the Showa era, and though I love those films, I don’t think we should excuse a film NOW if it has lazy writing and bad characterizations. We should want better. A compelling story and characters make a simply entertaining film one that stands the test of time. I haven’t seen this film yet but I’ve watched a few reviewers and it seems for the most part I was right in my guess that it focuses a lot on the visuals but could have done better ironing out the kinks in the story and the people aren’t that great. I want Toho and Legendary to make the best Godzilla films they can so it’s disheartening to see so many ready to defend less than the best efforts possible. Imitate the best parts and improve on what could have been better.
@@kaijucanuck4492 I was always planning on seeing it, but I’ve been watching reviews and most everyone enjoys it but agree that it has some weaknesses. Though I’m intrigued to hear that most of the Kong sections are told through visuals and not exposition. That sounds like it may be some of the best parts of the film
I really enjoyed the movie, may be my favorite in the MV, but I did feel Godzilla wasn't initially supposed to be in this (Since it began as a Son of Kong film). In the film Kong goes through a very emotional journey about finally finding more of his people to then find out they're enslaved by a Tyrant, while Godzilla basically just works out in the meantime lmao Still, a fantastic saturday afternoon movie. Hopefully Wingard gets to give Godzilla more to do in the next film.
Yes I heard a lot fights and very whacky the story kinda thin and this movie more focus on Kong he’s the main star which pleased me I’m a big Hugh Kong fan I like Godzilla and glad they team up to fight Skar King and Shimo hope it be great for the Kong and Godzilla fans plus if you didn’t know the director of the movie a Kong fan
I loved the movie, yes its not perfect and flawed. With all these recent reviews coming out all the purists and tourists are coming out the woodwork to dunk on this film and anything Monsterverse related. I guess we're not allowed to have any fun anymore 😢
I loved it, but couple things that I feel was lacking is the human side (not the usual "bad human characters" thing, it's something else), pacing, and the duration, not even 2 hours come on now.
I really love this film it’s so beautifully well written and I can’t deny how really amazing but tbh yes kong may be the protagonist of the film but Godzilla was the one that begin the mv doesn’t mean I don’t like kong he’s very awesome
I liked the movie, it felt like a true kaiju movie. So much eye candy, and it's like many people are saying, very Showa-esque. I still feel GvK is the best one, I think it's the best made, and there's a little bit of bias there due to the time in which it was released; it was a weird time overall. I think Shimo should've been a Ghidorah level threat. I think the tone should've been darker, and I had the assumption Shimo was kept under the pyramids, and Monarch knew about her all along, and she was going to be released at least 1/3 into the movie. I thought Godzilla and Kong would be fighting her together and lose, then have to get their adaptations. I thought Skar King would've been introduced a lot earlier, and would've been as threatening as Kong (he still was, but there was a cowardice to him), and after Godzilla and Kong's first defeat, Shimo would've been going around the world, freezing cities and oceans. I had a much different depiction as to what was going to happen, due to how Shimo was being described. But overall, I'd watch it again. I enjoyed it and I hope it does well. I want more of these movies.
I wanna watch it at day 1, but I'm too busy and need to wait till the weekend. The forum that I joined in, local and international, is already bombarded with "reviews" of the movie. Man oh man, a lot already hating on it, saying it's shallow, heartless and souless, Minus One is better in every single way, this is a cashgrab, Toho only liking the MV cuz of money and won't complain cuz of this, even saying that Takashi Yamazaki isn't being genuine when praising Wingard (saying that it's just him being Japanese, aka polite while not really meant what's being said). I don't mind ppl liking Minus One and disliking Monsterverse. But there is a better way to express them. By making a constructive and argumentative reviews, that regards the given context of the movie. Give criticism that is still within the scope of what the movie trying to do. All and all I'm till excited for this movie, can't wait till Sunday. I'll be watching it with my dad. Also, Hiya's Shimo is up for pre-orders. What better way to start the movie than buying its merch, right?
Overall, I thought Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire was pretty decent. I think it had some pretty high highs but in some ways also some pretty low lows. I kind of left the theater wanting a bit more out of it. I really didn't love the pacing, the movie has a breakneck speed and a lot of times I think it really sabotages some of the more impactful moments, they don't really get time to linger. The big final fight in general almost felt like it ended before it even began. The stuff with Kong and Suko was stellar and easily the highlight of the movie, their dynamic is really endearing. Skar King was generally pretty good too but he still felt a tad under-utilized to me and Shimo especially felt a few steps removed from not a walking plot device per se, but definitely a walking narrative tool to give Skar King some actual leverage. Really wished they established and used Skar and especially Shimo more, it felt like she barely got any opportunities for her actual personality to shine through. The human characters I just generally didn't care for. Trapper had some nice charisma and he definitely gave me Steve Irwin vibes but it felt like he hardly ever got an opportunity to teach us about the Hollow Earth creatures in that way. Would have really liked to see him use his knowledge to get the team out of a sticky situation with a Hellhawk or something similar. Bernie was occasionally funny but still a bit much, kinda felt like he didn't have as much to actually do to this movie or add to the heartfelt side of it. Ilene and Jia definitely have something on paper but in execution I just couldn't get invested in their side of the story. I feel like I really should have since I can relate to Jia's struggle but none of her character progression really stirred me. Godzilla himself, I really didn't love his role in this film. I knew not to go into this movie expecting much from him but even then I was still kind of let down. I didn't really like the way he looked, or moved, or acted. He felt kind of cartoony and over-the-top for me. Feels like he didn't get much in the way of character development either. He has a nice moment with a certain titan (whose general presence in the film feels very shallow and like a last-minute addition even when it surprisingly wasn't) but again, it doesn't last. I wouldn't say I'm disappointed (since I frankly expected as much based on test screenings) but it's bothersome nonetheless. Wingard has hinted he'll really lean into Godzilla more for whatever he has planned next and it sounds promising, really hope it lives up to whatever it is he seems to have cooking. I realizing I'm essaying so I'll wrap it up, but yeah generally I thought it was a decent movie. Has a lot of heart to it but most of the characters, be they human or monster, felt very undercooked. I don't think they really mined all the creative and juicy tidbits out of the good ideas this movie has to its' name. I think I'd give it like a 6/10.
I just got out of it. I have never felt this much like a kid since Godzilla: King Of The Monsters. Holy F*ck, that was everything I could have asked for
Lets just say that our Gman needs his own Movie again and he kicked ass in this movie... he was pure Godzilla. Gman is ready for a re-match with mecha.
Good movie although I had a problem with the lore and the (chosen one) was said to be from a certain place... makes no sense because those people would have never known that place existed being divided my millions of miles and literally shifted geography... didn't make any sense and really forced.
I saw the movie yesterday. And sadly I was pretty let down. Skar king was introduced way too late to make any impact and the human plot line this time around was a slog. Even Dan Steven’s charisma couldn’t save it for long. Despite being the same length as GvK it felt so much longer due to the terrible pacing. Even the fights don’t feel nearly as epic as GvK. The only redeeming factor was the King Kong and suko scenes. I wanted to love the movie so bad, but by the time (very minor spoiler) Skar king finally shows up over an hour into the movie, I was so mentally checked out that I just didn’t care anymore. Maybe I’ll enjoy more on the second watch. (and before anyone says it: I am NOT comparing it to minus one. I’m only comparing it to GvK, wingards previous monsterverse movie, which I loved)
I like the pensive thumbnail. "Hmm, I must organize my very serious thoughts" 😃 Also, In-N-Out Burger is decidedly okay. You kinda' have to have it if you're out in California, but I think it's a fairly upper-mid-range fast food burger. Wait, what were we actually talking about? Oh yeah... I have an intuition that this might have been more interesting if they went through the beats in GVK of Godzilla gets killed by Mechagodzilla who gets killed by Kong, thus bestowing upon him the title of King Kong by proxy and allowing us to have a movie like this without the MonsterVerse GINO to be there and all OP. Curiousity got the better of me and I watched an extended clip of the Egypt fight, and honestly, I was laughing the entire time so... I don't know... Toonie theatre?
What is the main thing critics just love? Human story thats all theyare gonna do no matter what they don't think of other things when it comes to movies like these
I’m prefer Kong be die he no longer monster title only animal over passed generations seriously western stop using silly jokes elements Godzilla need proper treatment and no Showa era I’m sorry that not Godzilla we needs kratos said be better
I think one of the most beautful things about King of the Monsters was how it mythologized the Kaiju. Ghidorah was so terrible that it was erased from eons of myth, an embodiment of despair and hopelessness. Godzilla is the dragon awakened by man's folly and persists like the evils of Pandora's Box, once unleashed never to be contained again. Along with the evils of that box came hope, Mothra. Mothra is symbolically linked with Godzilla and she also represents rebirth from the ashes like a Pheonix. Rodan is raw power, unconstrained and burning everything around it. It is utilized by others as a means to an end. That end given by Ghidorah, the destruction of the world to terraform it into it's own habitat and thus doom for all was trumped by wisdom and guidance (Mothra), which stilled rage and passion (Rodan). I'm not reading too much into this either. The kaiju were written to represent aspects of various mythos, and were tied to the elements and tarot cards. It would not be such a bad thing for there to be competant story telling and world building to go along with the monster action. It has turned from that into big monkey punches big lizard, awe isn't Shimo just a cute snow puppy. You don't even need to bring Minus One into the conversation, GxK falls short within the standards of it's own cinematic universe. You also don't need to sacrifice one to have the other. KoTM was just a fine without one being aware of all of the above but it is still there for those that want it. Shallow writing and vain spectacle are more damaging than critique. Time was right when they said "Godzilla x Kong Shows Godzilla Is Doomed to Turn Dumb", although I wouldn't be as generous as the article itself is. Even when Showa Godzilla was tail sliding and breath flying, the movies still at least had a message or a thought it wanted to leave you with. GxK does no such thing and it's a shame that there is so much promise to be built upon from the premise set up within the earlier films of the Monsterverse that they fail to capitalize on. All that said, GxK was fun but I wish it was so much more.
I saw the film on the day of release, and to be completely honest, I didn't like it all that much. I think that this film would've benefit so much from just being another Kong film, remove Godzilla from the equation. I genuinely really enjoyed all the story with Kong and the great apes, and wanted to see it explored more. Godzilla has such minimal screentime in the film that I think it would've just been better to have cut him from the film. The inclusion of the 'resolution' also felt very forced, and didn't have any greater impact on the film. Another issue I had with the film, which it shares with GvK, is that it really feels like the previous monsterverse films don't exist. GvK and GxK feel so disconnected from the rest of the monsterverse and everything it's established, even outright retconning things at times. I really hope that we can a new director for the next Monsterverse film(s), Adam Wingard just doesn't work imo. TL;DR I think this would've worked better as a Kong solo film, no Godzilla involvement whatsoever.
Same thing I wrote on Rotten Tomatoes. The critics that didn't like this movie shouldn't be reviewing this movie. It's OK they didn't get it, and get what we as Godzilla fans want. I wouldn't take a review for "Old School" or "King Pin" and I sure as Hell don't care what their opinion is on this movie. You don't ask an opera critic to review a Metallica album. A lot of these critics came into this movie with a preconceived idea, and it shows. Rotten Tomatoes critic reviews have become a joke. Look at the people who gave this movie a bad rating and then honestly ask yourself if they told you in person if you would even let them finish talking. Screw you critics. We don't need you.
Saw this yesterday Pros Kong became one of my favorite monsters in general because of how well utilized he’s become in the series Have more than 2 non major monsters cameo The human character actually had things to do and motivations that are believable instead of setting up stuff for later films/side projects Fights/ monster appearances every 5 min means no more “where’s Godzilla in my Godzilla movie” responses Short run time means no extra baggage or unnecessary long scenes Suko is not annoying and well used in the film Scar king is the most pathetic monster in the monsterverse making him a compelling villain for this movie Gia got more well deserved time and development for herself and found some closure Cons Everything was too convenient for the plot. “Oh we have this girl that was supposively the girl we are looking for because she’s super important to the survival of the people” “oh I idk how to drive this futuristic vehicle…ok I’ll go back to the surface and get an army of bats to distract the kongs by driving the futuristic vehicle” Godzilla not having any moment to shine other than getting supper charged I honestly don’t know how they’re going to make another GxK movie. There’s no set up or implications of anything we may see in the future. Government still doesn’t understand that at any moment a kaiju will destroy a major city at any given time because something is disturbing the ecosystem/ humans are causing damage to the ecosystem. Nor do they have any plans or strategies to combat or prevent kaijus from destroying major cities ie pacific rim and walled off cities and mecha The movie theater I went to didn’t have any GxK merch, they sold out when the tickets became available Imo it’s the 2nd best in the monsterverse and I’ll see it again today
