Sh shimo looks like an upscaled version of the 10 dollar playmates one. Hyia absolutely blows sh out the water. From price, film accuracy, poseability, everything. I mean it’s not awful but I’m glad I got my preorder in for the Hyia one
Ikr, it really does look like a higher budget playmates. normally sh has better articulation than hiya but it seems that aside from the neck this shimo seems to be less articulated than hiya. Hiya has better arms, legs, hands, and the promo pics of this seem to be missing an ab crunch
@@djangofett4879 Not always. Hiya's KOTM Ghidorah has better articulation than SHMA's version. Their KOTM Rodan is a bit more poseable too on account of bendy wire. So far both versions of Shimo looks to be similar in terms of poseability. SHMA's figures have only had consistently better poseability in regards to the big G man and Kong, but Hiya has been on par if not better in terms of their other Toho/MV kaiju figures.
7:11 The Mushroom and Bamboo Wars: There's a popular japanese snack that comes in two versions. One is cookie covered in chocolate in the shape of mushroom and the other is cookie covered in chocolate in the shape of a bamboo shoot. And people fight over which is better.
The paint finish (or lack thereof) is what's undermining the SHMA one. Even if Bandai plans on doing a more screen accurate special color version, it should've looked more like the movie version to begin with. Especially when the competitor has already got this down which is mind boggling.
At this point there’s only one thing holding Hiya back for GxK figures: why haven’t they revealed Kong and Skar King yet? Even then, if Western fans are anything like me then Hiya has proved themselves as so much better with MonsterVerse figures that they’re willing to wait. And for the ‘89: do you know when the last time a figure came with the classic blue Heisei era beam? It was the first issue of the 1994 figure, the very first release of the entire line 13 years ago 😭
I think the crazier one is that the hiya line started with gvk yet we still dont have mechagodzilla from that movie its super weird. Hiyas doing cool monsters that shma would never but one of the most wishlisted monster hasnt even been announced at all
Well the last few Kong figures from Hiya got middling reviews from most people so I think they’re taking extra care to get him right. The same goes for Skar King as I think they’re trying to make the best Skar King figure they can.
Sadly it’s not any of these replies that are right. The prototype designer for both Godzilla lines has other Godzilla projects to work on( Hiya essentially leased him) so right now they’re trying to find someone who can match the quality of before
while true, I don't remember seeing shimo THAT big compared to the other. The biggest scale she was in is when she pushed godzilla in Rio, and even then, her size isn't that big. Another example is maybe that scene when she meets Kong, but even then she was standing on a hill terrain
I think the beginning part where she looked gigantic was a artistic route to show how Powerful yet Helpless she is at the same time. It's a metaphorical scene that wasn't made to be taken seriously.
Honestly for me I’ve tried defending Monster Arts and telling people to try to look in a more positive direction but yeah no this isn’t looking to good… Still wanna get the SDCC tho
Cant wait for all the "19 inches of Shimo jokes". But seriously that size is both really cool but she's going to be such a pain to display which is my big issue with the hiya Ghidorah. At that size for me personally the figures arent really fun mess around, i dont play with my hiya Ghidorah because of his size.
I'd pick the Hiya Shimo over SHMA. But I don't think the SHMA is so bad it causes cancer, you know? Putting the Kong head and price aside, it's inaccurate but looks cool. But I'm not picking it up for $250, that's crazy
In a vacuum it’s a decent toy. It’s Bandai after all. But for a Kaiju rookie company like Hiya to basically knock it out of the park first go, for a fourth of the price is literally insane.
The usual ragebait buffoonery. Steven just does ragebait content almost exclusively now so that he can grift off the little kids who live vicariously through his videos.
@@TheKindofTiredSleepCantFix ''ragebait'' thats not something ı would agree at all steven makes reviews proper ones on top yeah hes a lot of harsher critic compared to all other channels but its his thing everyone trying to be nice as they can while he points out every flaw every side and his personal opinion on top and if hes not pleased he says it out loud hes a harder person to please than usual and if you dont agree with his standarts or dont like his opinion just dont watch him in first place critics or reviewers put their comment or opinion most of the time and if youre not in similar mindset with them rather than blaming them for being ''ragebait'' content just admit you dont like his content and him as a figure reviewer
@@tyrant8093 so basically he’s a wannabe harsh critic? I mean kaijucanuck has a video somewhat talking about his content. He straight up insults the viewer if they bought the gxk figure. That’s not what a reviewer does. That’s something a whiney a hole does when they don’t get what *they* want
I still dont get why they picked final concept art version rather than movie hiya literally made their version way before yes its literally superior in every way expect size
I’ve the sdcc Kong since the original release but I think them still having it available is awesome since for me its the definitive GvK Kong figure, it comes with the most accessories I’ve seen for an extremely affordable price, the sculpt is good, the chest scars are awesome and the axe effect part is just chefs kiss. And the inclusion of the mecha G head spoiled us.
Speaking of NECA…they need to get the PR license again to re-release the first movie figures. They would still sell as it is still a very popular film.
I know some people will disagree with me but you can just paint the damn tooth like it’s not a hard thing to do and you’re already buying like a 80 dollar figure so just pitch in the extra cash for a brush and paint
@@melvinrembet7438 the only reason I’d be willing to spend the 80 bucks on the monkey is cause I absolutely DESPISE both the GvK and Skull Island Kong from Hiya, if hiya stepped up its game with Skar King and beast glove Kong I’d absolutely get those instead.
I think I’ll personally get the Hoya over this, the price difference is just so drastically cheaper and sure I won’t have the long head but I didn’t get the long figure to begin with so no skin off my bones. I also didn’t see if the figure came with a beam effect or not but with a price that high I’d need at least something to make it worth it even Biolante came with a light up feature.
I'm just kind of baffled that they seemingly used the CG file for Evol Goji but concept art for Skar and Shimo. And I also agree it is WAY TOO BIG. The size in it of itself just feels like an excuse to raise the price. And I'm REALLY not liking that they've essentially made GxK Kong a glorified Build-a-figure. I'll be sticking with hiya, screen accurate, better paint job, better size, a fraction of the cost.
They are literally the primary market. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. You literally have two other options which you endlessly go on and on about how they are better.
@@skybytebytes idek who you are, so assuming I go on and on about other options is weird. Also, I said what I said, their opinions do not matter🤷 lmao. If they had to pay what we did, then it would hold some weight
@@omni-potent798You should be happy that we have the option to simply buy a Monsterarts figure at an American retailer. Not every country gets these figures imported the way we do. If Bandai decided to give the US a big fuck you and stopped importing their products we would all complain because we would have to pay even more than what we do now.
Wait, the Hiya version is smaller? What is the length in their version? I can only find that height at 6.5 inches in all four legs. I’ll go with that version. It will still fit with my SHMA Kong and Godzilla just fine
I can definitely see some people turning against the Monsterarts line if the Kong hiya figure actually comes with the false tooth and beast glove. (Can only imagine what the discourse is going to look like) Especially considering that some may only want Evolved Godzilla and Kong. There are people who don't want to have to buy the whole set JUST to have a film accurate Kong.
Well like what are they expecting we can get the hiya ones for 50-100 bucks vs shma right off the bat costing 140 plus 20 shipping then they wonder why everyone is hating on their figures now
The SHMA Shimo isn't "Absurdly large" she's the scale she's supposed to be when compared to the SHMA Godzilla. Hiya severely undersized their Shimo. I'm not picking up the BioGoji, cause I have the standard release, but I'm absolutely grabbing the Shimo. I've already got the Spiral Toys statue and the Hiya on Preorder.
I feel like it's more that SHMA took that one scene with Kong where Shimo is absurdly large. It's kinda like Attack on Titan, where sometimes Colossal Titan is waay too big for 60m, same for the walls. But is done so for artistic choice. Generally I think Shimo should be a tad shorter than Goji in quadrupedal pose
@@panduallen6712 she isnt shorter than Goji in the film, why would she be shorter as a figure? The Hiya Shimo is too small for her Goji and even she isnt shorter than her Goji. The SHMA is the size she's supposed to be for her Goji. I'm not a consol wars kid eager to pit one side against the other (I'm getting both) so you can prefer the Hiya because of its more film accurate head and more noticable paint apps, but the Hiya is still too small
I was surprised with the size if the Hiya Shimo too, given how precise they are with scaling. However on all fours her official movie height is supposed to be 375 feet, so I think it might still be accurate.
I can understand wanting to make that "center piece" figure, like Biollante or Monsterverse King Ghidorah, but this is still far more expensive than those, and comes with far less in terms of accessories. The accessory you do get requires another figure to use. Thats a common bandai tactic but not for such an expensive figure, doing it with skar king is still annoying but expected. It does feel like they're running a bit tone deaf with their markets, Hiya, Super7, Mezco and even Playmates are doing better making better bang for your buck toys that feel like their products make sense for their intended market.
I genuinely have no clue why they made the figure that large. My main issue with it though is the head. For some odd reason, they removed the muscles/flesh that connect the upper and lower jaws at the corners of the mouth. The concept art even has those jaw muscles. it’s just common sense for those jaw muscles to be there because literally all animals have muscles like that in some way. Godzilla would look so odd with his removed as well. I really don’t understand why this happened with Shimo
I didn’t get to finish this video on my lunch break, but I have to say I actually really like the look of that new shimo. I’d really like to get it because it would look cool next to the Space Godzilla I got recently from SH. And I have to say as well i definitely agree with the Japanese people saying the western consumers are annoying. Just the endless complaining against a brick wall when there are two other options to get anyways, and you can’t even like what you want anymore it seems
if i'm being honest, SHMA uses the concept designs for King Ghidorah 2019 and of course Shimo doesn't bother me at all. i think it's super neat to own a figure that's basically from an earlier version of the movie. also they're still mostly accurate, it's not like shma Shimo has orange crystals and magenta skin color. she's still white with blue crystals
This is just making me want to cancel my sh Godzilla and scar king preorder it’s concerning me for what we will actually get, hiya is gonna have to be the move for me now although it will take longer to get
I own the original BioGoji figure, and I completely agree with you on the statement that you made regarding beam effects. I've actually purchased a custom one on Etsy specifically for that figure. Yeah, it isn't the real thing, but it still does its job just fine. As for Shimo, all I will say is yikes. Hiya blows it out of the water.
I also noticed that with their earlier MechaGodzilla that was made bigger than their Godzilla and Kong figures when in their respective movie all three are roughly the same size. For some reason S.H likes to make their antagonist monsters way bigger than the protagonists.
Once again its one step forward two steps back with the SHMA line. I think the figure looks great, despite its inaccuracies, but the price is just unacceptable. And whats worse for me isnt actually the competition doing it 3-4 times cheaper, its the fact that other Monsterart sub-lines, such as Monster Hunter and now YuGiOh, have large scale figures being made with accessories and premium paint for half the price as Shimo.
Unfortunatly YEN to AUD is about the same due to current dollar value, so this thing imported from Japan to me here in Australia will be $260AUD + Postage + GTS, comparing this to a similarly priced release like Iris, I'm estemating about $350+ AUD to Import. IMPORT! That's CRAZY! and the 2 local distributors will more then likeley (again looking at similar priced items) charge $450~ for this... Priced. Out... Glad I got the pre-order on HIYA's. It's not even HIYA or SHMA anymore, its have money for food or don't
Yeah I have to agree. I didn't even know she was gonna be that big. I love Monsterarts, I have so many of their figs, BUT this Shimo is not it. She is gonna be out of scale with all the kaiju I own, she's a little too white, she doesn't really look like how she appears in the movie, and her price is insane. I have to go with Hiya. She will be my first Hiya figure.
It’s weird that Bandai just shown off their MMS Shimo a while ago and that one seems like it IS based off the final CGI model when comparing it yet the concept art is what is used for the high end Monsterarts. Did they only have the concept art for most of duration of the figure designing / creation? Did Bandai not care and just used what they preferred? Was this mandated by Toho or Legendary? Was it little bit of everything? Who knows! All I know is, Hiya shown off theirs like, what 2-3 months ago? And it’s around 3-4 times cheaper, it clearly has better paint apps, it’s more accurate to the on screen appearance, and offers (personally) better looking joint cuts and some articulation the SHMA lacks. So it’s odd that Hiya gets it right off the bat yet Bandai can’t….despite probably getting the resources around the same time and both companies working on these figures around the same time. So really, who knows. It’s just interesting if it is a case that Hiya is the company being trusted with the final models while Bandai possibly being told to use the concept art for most of the creation phase. To me there’s a clear choice for my wallet.
(2:45) That doesn't really bother me to be honest (the price yes, but the size no). I think the Hiya Shimo figure looks kinda small (at least judging by the pictures we see in the Hong Kong premiere). Plus im sure some people would prefer to have a large Shimo figure (especially if they want her to be more size accurate). Like me for example, im still waiting for Y-MSF to release their Biollante (final form) figure even though the "Movie Monster Series" toy is probably still available but I don't like how small it is compared to the rest of the 6 inch figures from the same line. 📏🦎🌹 Im surprised to see the Japanese reception for the figure to be are more positive (granted I know thats their audience but still compared to the western side lol). Also those were some awesome burns (6:13) lol. 😏💻🔥😆
To be honest, I'm not surprised at Shimo's price. Looking at Godzilla Evolved, that's twice of how much the GvK costs despite not being any much difference in size or accessories. But we all know the price is going to be expensive and be P-Bandai. I might even buy it if it were regular release (pay later instead of paying at pre-order) but no way am I able to afford it at this price. So I knew from the get go that I'm skipping this before it was even announced.
The only thing I’m buying from sh monsterarts is skar king because of how good there kong figure is But other then that I’ll just buy from hiya If it came with a lot of accessories I wouldn’t the price and the in-accuracy But yet shma can’t do that basic thing
This look’s literally like the playmates figure but I do like the effort of the figure but the mouth of the head looks so bad and the spikes on the tail look too big but tbh I say hiyas shimo looks more movie accurate tbh
"She's apparently based on concept art" *Concept. Art.* Why? For the love of God monsterarts why is it ONLY THE MV YOU DO CONCEPT ART DESIGNS FOR!!?!?!?
disagree on the SHMA having greater bulk. Hiya's MV offerings are sturdy as fuck, Bandai likes to keep things hollow. Fully anticipate them having similar weights despite the size difference, and I can guarantee the Hiya will have more solid joints.
I need a permit to ban SHMA Build-A-Figures. No one wants to pay 100s of dollars just to get parts for a figure. They love re-releasing figures all the time, Could have done it again. Or better yet they could have JUST INCLUDED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE! Everyone knew about the beast glove, and the tooth was not that big of a spoiler.
It just looks so unpainted to me. It desperately needs a wash or some kind of additional detail, because from a distance it does resemble the Playmates Shimo. I am a huge stickler for size accuracy in my figures, and to be honest the SHMA seems very oversized, like pre GxK release fan size estimation oversized. While the Hiya Shimo may look a teeny bit small in the Hong Kong GxK debute showcase, it's honestly pretty hard to tell due to GxK itself having a scaling issue alla KOTM, where Shimo looks far smaller in Rio than she does in her introduction. All-in-all, probably going to just avoid the SHMA shimo and buy the Hiya instead
You don’t have to read if you don’t want to, Im 100% sure that Nobody is going to buy this $200.00 small playmates looking Shimo figure, I still don’t understand why this SHMA line has not shut down yet, they can’t compete against Hiya toys considering collectors would still buy Hiya version over SHMA when it comes Accuracy, price, and more articulation then SHMA honestly, plus $200.00 to me is nothing compared to how much I spent on mobile In-app purchases for one of the mobile games i like, but yes $200.00 just for one single figure with no accessories if not courting kong’s clutching head, makes no sense anymore and that price costs just as much as original release of King Ghidorah 2019 and Mecha-king-ghidorah, I just don’t care what I looks but what I absolutely angry about is that is not that big or smaller then the Hiya version and yet still charges up for $200.00, which is disgraceful.
Shimo should’ve came with a frost beam effect for that ridiculous 200 + $ price point. Ever since the first ever Godzilla release from SHMA, It came with a beam effect. I feel that all characters that possess a special ability, especially beam effects, should be included in in All SHMA products especially considering how over priced these products are. They have totally cut back on their quality the more popular and successful they have become. Now It seems that they’re even trying to mimic an over priced version of Marvel select by Including build-a-figure components in these newer releases. What a ripoff!!!
The Japanese posters have a point. I feel the tone of current English-speaking discussions around Godzilla action figures is more often mean-spirited and reactionary than constructive. I don’t think anyone likes the way the line is being handled atm, but the amount of people going out of their way to mock and complain about anything less than perfect comes off as juvenile.
Agreed. I mean I've seen a lot of people saying the figure isn't accurate so there for it's bad but my argument is that while screen accuracy is great, not every figure has to be screen accurate to be good. The Sh Monsterarts Godzilla 2000, Gigan 2004 and the Hiya Kong 2017 are not screen accurate and yet all three of them are fan favourites. That being said, while the SHMA figure of Shimo looks good, I do prefer the Hiya version not to mention I don't know if I'm wanting to spend the money to get the SHMA Shimo figure.
@@andrewsouthworth9730 Screen accuracy is an easy point to win from the fans though. If SHMA could make their figures cheaper by making them screen accurate (which most people want anyways because it’s from a movie, duh) and ditching that Japanese designer they have alter their molds I’m certain most people would be fine with that. But they most likely overcharge their toys because of that guys involvement alongside their own greed. Hiya’s Godzilla mold looks so much better standing next to Bandai’s Godzilla mold BECAUSE it’s much more screen accurate. Next to each other one looks like Godzilla while the other looks like a custom figures. The “fan favorites” you mentioned are only such because it’s not like Bandai made a second screen accurate version of Godzilla/Kong after their initial releases. “Something is better than nothing” is Bandai’s motto with their MV line right now.
I'll be honest, my issue isn't even so much the price. It's a mighty price to be sure, but she is massive, and I'm sure the tooling was nothing to sneeze at. Couple that with it being an import, and I can almost understand the price. My issue is more that I don't think the figure looks good. It's got a similar problem to the SHMA Ghidorah 2019, where it's extravagant and impressive at a glance, but it withers under the lights so quickly that it loses its appeal (at least for me.) Similarly to Ghidorah, the movie likeness is suboptimal, (I'm guessing because they have to start working on these so far in advance, concept art is the best they have?) and the paint detail is severely lacking. Maybe that's a consequence of the expensive nature of the mold, but it's still worth mentioning. Shimo's colors in the movie are more complex than can reasonably be achieved on an affordable Playmates figure that's meant to withstand some rough play, and Hiya seems to have achieved a much closer approximation of how she looked in the movie. I don't think basing the figure on concept art is a problem in a vacuum. Where I think it becomes an issue is that the monster cast of the movie won't look as unified as they should. As for their including parts of Kong with the other releases, it bears mentioning that the concept of BAF is not a new one. It's one thing when applied to a set of five $20 figures. These are figures anywhere from $70-$200, which in my view defeats the purpose of a BAF. As much as I love Bandai and the things they produce, they pick the weirdest hills to die on, like with the new BioGoji. It seems like such an arbitrary omission. They even could've charged like $15 more for including the beam (for which they already have the molds.) It's very strange. That being said, you make a good point about how the west is ostensibly the secondary market for these figures. Which is why I try not to complain too much about price. The issues with the figures themselves still stand though, in my view. I'm sure there'll be plenty of folks who will love this, and that's awesome! There's certainly an allure to the grandeur of it, and I wouldn't blame anybody for being stoked about it or wanting one. It's easy for me to sneer, being as SHMA isn't an interest of mine, so it's important to keep other perspectives in mind, which I feel like you do a good job of.
Product timelines are definitely a factor here, seeing as she probably got started upwards of a year ago. It's strange that the EvoGoji is SO close to the on screen version but Shimo has such significant changes. And yeah, I agree the BAF stuff at *relatively* low prices makes sense, but it's silly here
@@kaijucanuck4492 That's true! I'm not sure how many reused parts there are on EvoGoji, but maybe that's a factor? Even still, with all the new parts it's strange.
13:24 YEA BOIIIIIIII I like this one. I dont mind the lack of beams because they take too much depth in the shelf. Even then, it should have it. But hey, they are doing the kong thing so they are shameless and just getting eirse and worse each year
19 inches long? Big deal, Hammond collection Giga is longer, a fraction of the price, and looks better. Not to mention Hiya on all fours is 6.6 inches tall, and still a fraction of the price.
It's not that its bad but knowing they are selling it for such a high price when at best it looks like a 30$ toy? I mean these are supposed to be worth 300$ that doesn't look 300$ to me...
I know I also said SHMA Shimo looks like Playmates, but yea issa hyperbole statement that I said jokingly. Kinda not if we're talking about the muted detail due to lack of paint, but in general, yea issa hyperbole joke. I didn't realized that you said inches in that post, I thought it was cm. Holy hell it's almost twice the lenght of a standard issue ruler. I think they go with that one scene with Kong. It kinda felt like an Attack on Titan situation, where some shots are waaay out of scale on purpose for artistic choice sake. But it's possible to do that sorta stuff with photography no? Iirc Harold done it with Kong and Goji, and it looks phenomenal. I get that not everybody going to have the skills and equipment to pull it off, but neither do everybody got deep pockets and huuge shelf space. I am curious why they didn't do articulated fingers on Shimo but do it for SK. Is it cuz production cost or cuz Hiya had done it? I am surprised but not really with the Jp reception. They would say Hiya looks cool and all, but their go-to would always be SHMA by the end of the day. The wordings too, like man Jp truly held back all punches in public. Give them the mask of anonymous and bam, they're just as sharp tongued as the rest of us. While it is too much to complained at every SHMA releases, but for some cases, there are genuine criticism to be made. I get it, their maket is Jp, so they concern about the Jp reception faaaaar before even one overseas voice took into consideration. But it is confusing to me how they were going to maximize profit that way. I noticed that region lock thing is everywhere in Jp. A prominent case is in gacha game. Jp got good gacha games, popular franchise known by overseas, but never got a global release, many needed VPN to download and play. Meanwhile Ch, took the Jp aesthetic, make them accessible for everyone. The big player in the current market, Mihoyo, Kuro Games, Azur Lane, all are Ch company but using heavily Jp aesthetic.They got soo much potential had they tap into the international market, both figures and games. Anime is also an issue since ppl who do wanted to buy official releases can't or too difficult, so pirate site is sooo popular. Yes now Crunchyroll issa thing but their roster ain't complete and it's still not worth it even with Buyee to ship them straight from Jp. Also it's kinda intresting that one would brought up how had Hiya doesn't exist, ppl would be ok with it and buy it. Which is a point in your argument that it's exactly why both need to exist. Cuz had SHMA stayed being the only fish in the pond, we got no things to compare them to. My friend love Gundam, and Bandai is the only player for Gundam. But when these Ch companies making a Gundam-esque releases, high quality, cheap price, phenomenal engineering, he then began picking up the current decline in Bandai's quality. One of which is easily stressed plastic, some even break with little pressure, etc. So yea, had SHMA stayed the only player, it's more like ppl would be excusing everything cuz it is the only way to get the figure they want and there's nothing to compare. They could decline in quality but ppl won't bat an eye. It's not really a bulletproof argument from that dude, huh. I really love what they did with the dorsals on Bio-Goji there. It looks good, but yea... why no beam. I know I'm in an opposite camp from yours in terms of beam inclusion. I personally expect beams in every kaiju SHMA release that can shoot beam, cuz you most likely would never get a beam ver. release anyway. Or for some, the beam ver. color would only be on the area they shoot the beam, so might as well get it on default. I excuse default not getting beams for Hiya cuz it's a near guarentee to get beam release later on with the same cheap price. It is justifiable on the default releases tho, I'm with you on that. But yea, it's twice the bullshit if the beam ver. didn't came with one. And I am an example of ppl who are new to the hobby and don't have any spare effect parts. I only started collecting Goji stuff back in 22. I don't have any beams for any SHMA, like 21 Goji and MG. 21 Goji issa supposed beam ver. but why no beam. Getting 19 Goji issa task, especially at a good price then. So not an option. I'm also hesitant to buy 54 anniversary, despite I could get it for $60-70, cuz I don't wanna buy a stand since I got no spares. I'm curious if they're going to further implemented the DLC marketting ploy. I'm sure there's a name for it, but I'm just calling it that. We've seen it in SHF Ultraman way before SHMA Goji. I wonder if GxK issa testing ground and further down the line they may do stuff like not giving beam to a beam ver. Goji, bbut you could get it if you buy this PB huuge enemy kaiju. That happened with Shin Ultraman, you need to buy the gigantic Zetton to get the ultra slash kousen. It could happen to Goji down the line. I just hope Hiya would never do that. Give me the communist pricing and multiple repaints, but never gave me a DLC ploy.
