My 'Humans are Herbivores' Video Was Debunked :( 

I was there, my friends- a broccoli packing plant that looked like one of the levels of hell. Green, there was green everywhere. I'll never forget the soul-rending squeaking sound that broccoli florets make when they're being packed into a box, or the horrific snap of a broccoli stalk being torn asunder. I still get the shakes sometimes.

There is no valid point against veganism, only excuses.

"NOBODY has PTSD from working at a broccoli packing plant" 😂😂😂

"Here's a French dude that ate an entire plane. This does not mean that his body is best suited to be a planivore." xD

"Calcium, iron, and protein can only be found in meat..." LMFAO!!

Also, we don't drool and get hungry when we see or smell live animals...much the opposite..

Can humans live without meat? = YES. Can humans live without plants? = NO. Great work Mic!

But, but, but canines and bacon and cognitive dissonance

Man, the dairy industry definitely succeeded into tricking so many people that milk is where you get calcium from. I had a doctor tell me to get more calcium from dairy products cuz I'm filipino and I'm prone to osteoporosis or something. I told her I didn't like milk and she suggested yogurt and ice cream and stuff. -_- No. Thanks.

Don't bring up th-the broc-br-brocali processing plant, the horrors.. the-they still haunt me to this day.

you are the reason i went vegan, thank you for your professional wAy of approach it really convinced me that veganism is the way to go. Thank you!!! ( sorry for Bad english im from germany...)

Nice work! Here are some other points to strengthen your argument. -our saliva breaks down plant food, and not animal food -carnivore molars work like scissors (pass by each other - slice; not smash) -carnivores and omnivores dont get artery disease (their digestive system is designed to consume cholesterol) -herbivore jaws move side to side (carnivores dont) to grind plants -93% of choking deaths are from meat (our throats and teeth are not designed for it) -we have no natural means for killing animals (are we going to sneak up on a deer and choke it to death?) -herbivores knees lock so they can stand with little aid from their muscles (carnivores dont) -we are slow -our hearing sucks -our vision sucks - but is perfectly suited to see the colors of fruit and vegetables -our sense of smell sucks -we are in the primate family - which are almost exclusively herbivores, we are designed to live in trees (do you find more plant food or animal food in trees?) -our bodies cant regulate heme iron, but can regulate plant iron -ppl are curing themselves of all kinds of diseases with plant based diets (which should be called plant exclusive diets)

it's true, children have to be conditioned to be indifferent to harming animals. If a kid is indifferent, or worse ENJOYS harming animals, we have a duty to get that kid into therapy.

Those comments almost gave me cancer. But of course they wont because im a vegan ;D

I love the retired 100+ year old heart surgeon who was so amazing, fit and speaking with such clarity. Oh wow, I wanna be like that when I'm 100+ 😎 As a WFPB vegan I intend to live to at least a 100 😁😁😁

People will come up with the most ridiculous excuses to continue to eat animals. Because tastebuds...tastebuds are the reason the planet is going to hell. Both lame and sad.

Possibly the best video ever made to promote a vegan diet. Brilliant.

9:20 For a split-second there, I thought that you were going to say that a vegan diet cured her blindness.

Stoked you made this update. Was getting cancer from that comment section in your original video.

All I heard was, "my gf's sister..." 💔

THIS MAN IS THE MAN! Thanks for all the scientifically referenced thoroughness. Keep fighting the good fight. We all get confused and need help sometimes.

No one gets PTSD from working at the Broccoli processing plant. LOL

Maybe even better than the original. Take that debunkers.

Well yeah humans are naturally omnivores, also no the herbivore diet isn't the best because we can't get Vitamin B12 from plants and without meat in a diet your intake of amino acids will be much lower and can make it much harder to gain muscle mass. also if we are best with plants then why do we have natural needs to rely on meat anyway? we can reject meat today because we have supplements for vitamins and protein, etc. also lastly to say your video wasn't debunked, it was just never true in the first place

Love how scientifically based your vids are, and how you use multiple doctors as sources. After going through contradictory studies and doing research for hrs, I think I'm prepared enough to at least attempt a vegan diet and see how it affects my health.

So obsessed with all your videos!! Thank you so much for doing what you are doing 🙌🏼

Let a baby have an apple and a rabbit, and let me know when the baby eats the rabbit and plays with the apple.

You sir, are my fav

we only obtain calcium from milk?! WOOOAAH THAT GOT ME ROFL-ING XD

I've tried being vegetarian once and vegan twice. I'm studying nutrition and planned my meals to include what I should have needed but my health failed each time and blood tests confirmed I wasn't absorbing vitamins and minerals I needed.

Broccoli killed my family.

Plants and Mushrooms... Vegans, don't forget the fungi! The flesh-fruit of the forests...

I'm still on my transition from my previous omnivore diet to a plant-based diet. Watching videos like these really helps along my journey and makes it easier to see why I shouldn't continue eating meat. Keep it up Mic! Thanks for everything!

Stop eating meat. It's killing you. Mic you are doing a great job. I look forward to your vids.

God, I hate human kind sometimes, like A LOT. Some are the best and defend nature and love all living creatures, but the others, which is the most of the human population, doesn't care, recklessly eat and that we let them suffer without ANY COMPASSION.

The Okinawans have always eaten a lot of meat. My dad was stationed there in the 1960s, and he said they were crazy about pork. They even fried their vegetables in pork fat.

Humans are anatomically and physiologically herbivores, but they act as behavioral omnivores. Biology shows evidence of being herbivores, whereas psychology suggests we are omnivores. I love biology.

Hello, disclaimer: I'm vegan and a biologist. Also I wanna mention that classifications are in most cases "fluent" and not every case is discretely distinguishable. The whole vegan omnivore/herbivore discussion is pointless and in some cases misused as vegan propaganda. The funny thing is when you realize that we're just discussing about definitions. Omnivorism and all other forms are BEHAVIOURAL definitions in biology. If you look at humans nowadays and observe that a significant amount of their diet consists of animal products and plants, then they're omnivores period. A cat doesn't include plants in like every single meal so theyre carnivores even if they eat plants rarely. Also comparing an animal A that apparently eats an omnivore diet and then look at another animal B that eats an omnivore diet AND then say uhh.. B has another anatomy than A therefore B can't be omnivore isn't actually exact or scientific. Humans started hunting, domesticating and it was apparently an evolutionary advantage. However if you wanna talk about about what is the healthier diet I totally agree humans should rather eat plants than animal products if possible.

Our body length (trunk length) to enter time is actually 7:1 which gives us a (just) shorter intestine to that of a bear, relatively

Your videos make me SO happy, and keep me inspired to be living a plant-based lifestyle.

killing it mic, which is ironic ;)

Thank you for having the perseverance and patience to make all these videos. much respect and admiration

"We are behaviorally omnivores but physiologically herbivores," right? We have learned to do bad/unhealthy things. Also, fiber produces short chain fatty acids in the colon, which feeds the colon in some way by nourishing the one cell lining (I think). I'll have to look it up again.

Luckiest girlfriend ever.

"Nobody has PTSD from a broccoli packing plant" hahahah so well said! :D glad i stopped eating meat.

Great video. There are other clues as well: 1) Carnivores make their own vitamin C, we do not because our early ancestors ate so much fruit 2) Carnivores preferred energy source is protein, ours is carbohydrate 3) Carnivores cannot make taurine (which can only be found in flesh), yet require it. We have no problems with making our own taurine 4) Carnivores cannot overdose on cholesterol, we can, with disastrous consequences. 5) Obligate carnivores require vitamin A in its preformed state and cannot make it from beta carotene like humans can

Another great video Mic. This is not a refutation(since I can't) just an observation. Discussions of this type - what diet we are naturally suited / evolved to eat are to my mind of limited value. It's easy enough to cherry-pick, even fairly find evidence, for an omnivorous diet throughout our evolution. You wanted a link so here is it is www.vrg.org/nutshell/omni.htm by John McArdle, Ph.D., an anatomist and primatologist, a vegetarian, and scientific adviser to the American Anti-Vivisection Society. I think we need to move this discussion away from what we evolved to eat and toward we are best adapted to eat now. I am much more impressed with the work of Esselstyn et all showing the numerous health advantages of a plant-based diet. Another thing to note is we, vegans, don't have to win this argument, we only have to tie. Even if it's possible to eat a healthy omnivorous diet or a healthy plant-based diet, the only ethical choice is the one that doesn't necessarily involve the killing and enslavement of non-human animals. Ties go to the vegans.

I really love your channel, thoughts and your discussion skills.

Not sure why omnivorous biology is consistently left out of this argument and the focus is always the difference between herbivores and carnivores, the argument gets made that herbivores have longer guts than carnivores no one ever mentions that omnivores also have longer guts in order to capacitate both diets so the longer gut in humans does not necessarily mean that we have to only eat plant based foods it simply has to be that way in order to properly digest plant based foods at all , as far as clogged arteries go carnivores carnivores have adapted to a strictly animal based diet while herbivores and omnivorous were less likely to need that adaptation and a healthy balance of lean meats and vegetation fairs well in most omnivores what this argument never factors in I that humans with their cooking skills and ability to combine foods in a culinary fashion has led to poor eating habits a larger contributor to plaque buildup in humans than other omnivorous species who aren't churning butter baking chocolate chip cookies, and frying chicken vegetable oil ( which btw is a plant product that can lead to high cholesterol ) we have been eating meat for over a million years something tells me with all our accomplishments and planetary dominance that wasn't out of plain stupidity

Diabetic here. I still need insulin, but I did cut back on my dosages by about 33% when I went vegan

Just a point on the Adventists: They also don't generally smoke, drink alcohol, keep caffeine consumption low, and generally remove 'unhealthy' influences from their lives.

3:36 hair flip 😂😂😂

It's kind of depressing we need this sort of video to convince people rather than just acknowledging how immoral eating meat is, still thanks for making it ;).

I wonder why the people of Okinawa JAPAN suddenly switched TO plants in the 1940s A certain historical events may have cause this

I eat meat but I feel quite guilty about it. It's very easy to ignore what happens to these animals when the meat doesn't look like an animal, doesn't smell like an animal and just in general shows no indication that an animal was slaughtered in the process. I'm so sick of people denying that it's wrong and trying to come up with these stupid excuses.

"no PTSD in broccoli packing plant" LOL.

Ok Let's get the facts straight. An omnivore is NOT an animal who can survive on meat and nothing else. You vegans never learn the actual meaning of anything. An omnivore is simply an animal which CAN eat both plants and meat, it doesn't matter what ratio. That's not what an omnivore is. YES I absolutely agree that the more green we eat The better of we will be. Period. You also forgot to mention that The people in the blue zones are NOT vegan nor are they close to vegan. YES they DO eat a VERY plant dominant diet. But they do eat meat and fish and eggs. Though very rarely. They also consume diary. There are vegan biologists who already has debunked the claim that humans are herbivores, which we're not. We are omnivores. Period. Does that mean we can't be healthy on a vegan diet? Absolutely not. We should focus on a plant based diet no doubt The science is clear on that point. But you have to Wonder if The vegan diet is The natural way to eat then WHY is The vegan diet BEATEN by The mediterranean diet, The Dash diet, The Mind diet, and The TLC diet. When it comes to heart health? Neither of those diets are vegan. Strange. All of them do focus on a very plant dominant way of eating though, again much like how People in the blue zones DO actually eat. Not vegans. Still super healthy. Meaning The People in the blue zones are not herbivores but actually to no surprise at all, omnivores. Case closed.

Points why humans are omnivores 1)majority of omnivores cannot digest grass,leaves and hay,ALL true herbivores can 2)canines don’t matter, all rodents lack canine teeth,majority of rodents are anatomically omnivorous,like rats,squirrels and Hamsters 3)human molars are brachydont-bunodont,mammalian omnivores have this type of molar 4)omnivores can get artherosclerosis like pigs,also if you feed a dog A LOT of meat probably the dog will get sick 5)majority of mammalian omnivores can move their jaws sideways,only bears and Hegdehogs cannot since carnivorans and eulipotyphlans have an ancestor were they can’t move their jaws sideways 6)True mammalian herbivores cannot get any macronutrient from meats,if you feed a guinea pig meat it will not die or get sick but he will not get any nutrient from it,only minerals since that minerals are also found in plants 7)majority of mammal herbivores cannot puke except ruminants,even omnivores like rodents cannot 8)primates are omnivores,their ancestors were insectivores and the ancestors of that insectivores were omnivorous rodent-like animals 9)we can also get diabetes from eating too much plant sugars,also diabetes it’s mainly from carbohydrates and sugars,wich are mainly found in plants 10) you use the argument of “oh,because this animal that has a omnivore diet and this animal that also has an omnivore diet have different anatomy’s,that means one its not a omnivore! It doesn’t matter if both anatomies are well adapted to eat omnivorous diets!”

We are made to eat whatever we can in order to survive, it’s why we survived the ice age and thrive theresfter

I just wanted to say something about that slaughterhouse bit. My dad worked at one with a red side and a pink side. He was very thankful he was working on the pink side.

So when I was a child, I used to chew on meat for HOURS because it just wouldn't work to swallow it and it just got soggy until I eventually gave up and spat it out. Back then I thought there was something wrong with me when now my theory is that my body just wasn't adapted to an unnatural diet

Congrats on keeping your posture regarding stupid people on youtube! Great response video :)

A year ago I would have complete disagreed with you, but evidence is evidenced and the truth is that you are right.

Ya know what? I'm just gonna say this: I eat animal products everyday (with plants too) and I get plenty of exercise and my doctor says I'm perfectly healthy. I don't care if you vegans consider it "animal abuse" or "unnatural". If a person who specializes in health who probably studied it a huge portion of their life says what I'm doing is okay then I'm going to continue doing it.

best video ever...

Great and very informative video, Mic, thanks a lot! These 2 videos should be mandatory to be watched in Biology 101!

not trying to debunk your video, as I do not know the truth of reality. just out of curiosity, if evolution is the truth, would it not be best for humans to consume omnivorously, in order to evolve into the next phase?

"Omnivore is a consumption classification for animals that have the capability to obtain energy and nutrients from materials originating from plant and animal origin" Notice that definition from Wikipedia says nothing at all about the long or short term health aspects of food sources, simply the capability to obtain energy and nutrients from both plant and animal. That makes us omnivores. You don't get to redefine a scientific term to suit your needs. A plant based diet with minimal to no animal products does seem to be healthier but some studies have shown that diets including fish are healthier than strict vegetarian or vegan diets. I think some of the problems with your examples using modern populations of people who were historically more plant based is that they replaced small quantities of lean wild animals and fish with higher quantities of fatter, possibly hormone and antibiotic supplemented, factory farmed animals. The jury still seems to be out on the ultimate health of a strict vegan diet, but even if it does turn out to be the healthiest, that would not change the biological definition of humans as omnivores.

Its incredible to see the proof. Love the analysis and synthesis of the studies. I am truly so grateful.

This video just confirms how low human IQ can go and how low human IQ has to be for the living creature to become vegan

"Calcium can ONLY be found in dairy" HAHAHAHAHHAHA :D

if we're best suited for plants why do most people have a problem digesting most vegetables

I just LOVE your video titles! They're a GREAT strategy to get non-vegans to watch your videos! Perfect!

when I eat meat, I take one shit every 3 days; but when I eat plants, I take 2 shits a day. When I eat meat, I spend 15 mins in the restroom per shit. but when I eat plants, my shits last about as long as a piss. When I eat meat, my shits smell worse than rotten cheese. But when I eat plants, my shits literally don't smell at all. I know this is TMI, but this is one of the main reasons why I'll be trying the vegan diet for much longer than I expected.

I love your energy in this one. Cracking me up. Thank you for your videos, Mic.

If an idea challenges a person's belief system, the intelligent will question it, but the morons will just reject and defend their precious paradigm because otherwise they might have to face reality.

You make the best videos.

Hey there! I just want to say THANK YOU so much for making these videos. Great to hear the truth:) I am totally with you!

I tried the vegan lifestyle for a few months, however my stomach would hurt often because of the high amounts of fiber. I work out a lot and had a hard time consuming enough protein. Beans, lentils, nuts.. etc don't agree with me. I switched back to a relatively low fiber diet with meat everyday and feel a lot better overall.

Are there any health benifits to not using leather, silk, etc.?

7 day adventist also don't smoke,or drink, exercise regularly, involved in their community and church. Wouldn't this also be contributing factors in longevity?

I meet a guy who was vegetarian and he lived to 5000 years bla bla bla.. There are ppl who drink and smoke and eat shit who live just as long stick to the science man.

Concerns about your video: -- Okinawans were not vegans (by your admission), so does not clearly support your argument. -- Do Modern Okinawans differ in other ways, like eating processed foods or getting less exercises? Necessary to know for your conclusions. -- Do Adventists have other traits, like not eating processed, no alcohol or smoking, exercise? Need to know that. -- You say only 20% of Adventists are vegans, so, um, you don't need to be vegan to be healthy? -- Plant-based diet in blue zones? You're conflating plant-based with vegan/vegetarian. They are not vegan/vegatarian. "Most herbivorous" /= "vegan." (Maybe plants and meat is a good diet!) -- PTSD from a slaughterhouse? So what. That's an extreme case that does not compare to the millions (billions?) of people who have been killing and eating animals for a million years. -- Historically speaking, there is a consequence of not eating enough meat: dying because there aren't enough plant calories around to sustain life. (With modern agriculture, you can eat an abundance of plant calories.) -- You brought up alcohol, so: you can safely drink some alcohol, and maybe even beneficially. Can you safely eat some meat? -- Would an omnivore get cancer from eating meat? You say no, but that's a non sequitur. Lots of people who meat (most) don't get cancer. Maybe eating some meat will not give you cancer. Are there things we need to consume but which will harm us in some quantity? -- Caldwell Esselstyn's study doesn't demonstrate meat is bad for you because there are so many other interventions on his plan. In any case, he was treating people who already had CVD. Lots of meat eaters don't get CVD and there are multiple causes of CVD. You don't have to follow Esselstyn's extreme diet to avoid getting CVD. -- Your Beyond Meatless study? From the abstract: "Large randomized intervention trials on the effects of vegetarian diet patterns on neurological and cognitive functions, obesity, diabetes, and other cardiovascular outcomes are warranted to make meaningful recommendations." -- We evolved a face and mouth for eating something that's not meat? We evolved a face and mouth to eat cooked food, meat and plants. Prehumans had much larger jaws to eat uncooked food.

Been watching your videos for a couple months now. You really make some great content. I've been cutting back on anical products for a while. I hope I can get off the stuff eventually..

instead of "got milk?" ppl need to hear "got tahini?" ;))

Okay okay... I know all these things, but did that planivore die??? What happened to his digestion?? So. Many. Questions!!!! 😂

Wish I had found you sooner! You get your points across so clearly, you've really helped me :)

here the comment I did your previous video, because I feel that all the comment you showed are little more than straw-man. English is not my first language , sorry for possible grammar fault or weird phrasing. humans have been "behavioural" omnivore for millions of years, even before homo sapiens. also in the last generations physical activity have decreased while meat consumption augmented, not a good association. And comparing a population that closely watch they eat (implying no junk food) and another that eat high calorie and low quality food and do not exercise is no proof that meat alone is responsible because of the multiple factor and some of them not meat related (like candy or palm oil), also the absence of source for the chart (2:04) is not good, I would like to know where they come from. also funny that on your cholesterol study (1:47) , it shows HUNTER-gatherers in the normal range of cholesterol. the cuddle or kill is just a effect of the fact that today almost no one kill their own food and contact with real life blood in large quantities is very rare, so that make us more sensitive to it because we were sheltered during our childhood watching Disney, it's a question of habit. and there no universal set of moral, that a subjective notion. And not being sensible to killing animals, even if they are cute, does not make you a psychopath because, point Godwin for me, Hitler became a vegetarian and loved animals, that did not stopped him ordering the Holocaust. on the choking topic I can only say, What a beautiful Quote mining you did (rationalwiki.org/wiki/Quote_mining) ignoring that 55% of the victims had a documented difficulty with swallowing, the beginning state that the death peak occur at the extreme of age, and that not all you didn't mention, also www.community-links.net/child-choking-guidelines/, that a little more accurate of the risk. We have a ph of 1 to 4, how you got it wrong is a mystery. on the length of our guts, we are omnivore, and the fact that every serious nutritionist I heard on the subject on meat said that our consumption is too much, our guts reflecting that is no surprise. again, human consume meat since millions of year, for the argument from authority of the MD I would like very much link to the source when a graph is used because how do I judge it's quality, because you showed that you deform or outright say erroneous statement, like for the studies on choking or the gut ph. our brain and tools ARE the reasons we such efficient hunter, because unlike most predator that would catch the weakest prey, we take the biggest and sometime go after the predator themselves, and with today tools some do it for sport like with safari ( I am against that practice because it destroy biodiversity in multiple way, like I am not a fan of the meat industry due to it's impact on the environment) also on the topic of evolution, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence, and again we are eating meat since millions of year, the capacity to digest and take nutrient from meat is done by now. Rabbit eat their shit to gain some nutrient en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit#Diet_and_eating_habits the okinawan diet is OMNIVOROUS en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okinawa_diet even in small quantities, meat and animal product are still a part of it, with multiple serving in FISH per week for example, That is OMNIVOROUS not herbivorous. and because of the lactase persistence, their diet may not be ideal for everyone, because evolution always occur people around the world may adapt to their food. and do you have any proof about the availability of b12 in unprocessed water for human consumption, also is more safe to drink dirty water (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterborne_diseases) than a little meat for b12?

I'm currently on my second week of eating hole food vegan meals as a tryout, but you're convincing me of staying vegan... still having doubts (it's expensive and time consuming), but hey.. Rome wasn't build in a day

Using the 100 year old man as an example for vegetarian/veganism is a bit of a crutch I might say. I have seen videos of a 100+ man who drink some 3-4 glasses of whiskey a day as well as enjoys multiple cigars, this does not mean he should be used as an example of healthy living.

you gotta stop using the 100 year old mowing his lawn as evidence. seen it in at least 3 different videos of yours now. at this point it seems to be weakening your arguments because its more of an anecdote and not real evidence. the sole purpose of this comment is meant for constructive criticism.

I’m still researching diets (I want to get some muscle gains) and I’m not here to debunk your video. But one thing that I feel many people fail to ever put in vegan dietary videos is climate. You have to understand that the people who are primary vegan ancestraly typically live around the equator or tropical zones where a wide variety of plants are more readily available. Those who ancestraly ate more meat and other animal products come from areas of extreme heat or cold where that variety of plant food is more limited and other sources of nourishment is required to survive. I’m not denying that we’re probably meant to be herbavoirous but at the same I believe time we have adapted/evolved through time to eating animals and there bi products as a means of survival. And two things to also remember, the ice age happened which basically forced us to eat meat. And agriculture is not natural gathering/scavenging is (since I guess hunting isn’t either) apologizes for the long read but I hope I made my point clear

Just wanted to tell you that your videos have been a big influence on me working my way towards veganism. I like your scientific approach. I should tell you that I showed one of your videos to my mother and she complained you talked to fast.

I have a question about humans being naturally vegan, if vegans are eating a diet that is completely natural to them than why do they need supplements engineered in a laboratory to get all the needed vitamins, the special fortified foods that have all these vitamins aren’t natural either, so why can’t vegan humans eat leaves and fruits like other herbivores but instead need supplements to stay alive

Brilliant!!!

Love your videos. You make absolute sense in what you say and the people who don't want to "hear" the logic and truth are stupid, stupid, stupid! Thanks for your hard work getting all the info together and presenting it so interestingly.

What is the average life expectancy on plane-itarians?

Mike. killing them bro... killing so much ignorance you might not be vegan anymore ha

Thank you for making such good videos, with a clear message for my facebookfriends to learn something from! :) Keep on sharing the good and important message! 😃

Good video. I just have to laugh when the guy said we evolved a face and a mouth. At what stage did our face decide it wanted to eat plants. Did it wait for our intestines to evolve and catch up? Did it wait for the teeth to get the memo? Or did they all have a meeting and say ok fuck it lets do plants...and what did we eat before they went plants .. Wake the fuck up people