My Opinion Scandalized Many (re. Blessings) - my Response - Fr. Mark Goring, CC 

Thank you for this quote from C. S. Lewis ! I was looking for it ! This Document is taking the Church down the Slippery Slope! Pope Francis loves CONFUSION ! Pope Benedict was so very CLEAR with his Documents ! THANK YOU !

I don't agree with you about Pope Francis. While I don't agree with his many non-salvation views such as Climate Change, to suggest that he wants confusion in the Church is just plain wrong. Remember, St. Pio warned his followers about slandering those who hold position within the Church.@@marjoriehoglund8754

@@marjoriehoglund8754Catholics quoting that prottie C.S.Lewis are hilarious. Especially when they think it makes them seem intelligent to quote that persistant heretic, who died impenitent, as a way of “ proving a point” that they make in opposition to what a good, Holy, Catholic priest like Father Mark is TEACHING.😢

@@marjoriehoglund8754C.S. Lewis was “ married” to somebody else’s wife, so I guess that makes quoting him for this topic SOMEWHAT logical...😂

@@marjoriehoglund8754 You really don't know what you're talking about. The declaration was in response to the bishops in Germany who answered the Pope's response to their Dubia in 2021 by creating ritual/liturgical blessings for same sex couples within their "synodal way." This declaration shuts that down, whilst giving priests the guidelines necessary for the evangelization of a same-sex couple approaching them spontaneously for a blessing. The "slippery" slope was leveled! I would also caution you to speak in more charitable tones about our Holy Father, and to be careful about criticizing the Magisterium. You are possibly in danger of a grave sin. Also consider that while you are right in praising Pope Benedict XVI (a very pious and astute leader), the Church was not without unfair criticism and scandalous manipulation of her reputation under his reign either. We're Catholic! We're always going to be damned if we do, or damned if we don't in the secular world.

Are we not supposed to be repenting and working on being holy not sinful❤ we all have gay people in our lives whether we work with them in our families our neighbors and we love them BUT would God want this done in his house this is the big question I don't think he does😢 I think this is a huge slap in God's face😢

He has already set them free, they just haven't found out about it yet.

@@gerrymcdonnell1946 you made me smile friend I loved your comment ❤️ okay let's have hope LOL to me 🥰

I walked away from the homosexual life-style (in it nearly 30 years). With the Grace of The Holy Trinity I returned, fully, to the Church and sincerely enjoy my celibate life-style ( for many years now) and recognize, fully, the negative aspects of living actively as a homosexual. This will offend, I know. Too add: my homosexual life-style was played out in Los Angeles, California.

But one must ASK with all their heart.

Agree, but if they come together bless each of them individually and let the blessing encourage chastity, don’t give a joint blessing. I trust most faithful priests will figure this out due to their pastoral wisdom, without having to have it spelled out as a list of instructions. Let’s just place trust in Jesus who works through our faithful priests. Maybe raising this issue as has been done now will lead to catechesis of persons who have stayed away. Let us entrust to God in prayer and in support of our priests, to work good out of what we perceive as disordered.

Dear@@nml5802, agreed. FS allows for blessing the couple as individuals. The priest has no set standard of prayers except that of charity and evangelization. FS is written this way deliberately. Thank you for your understanding comment!

@@susand3668 Merry Christmas 🎄🙂

What is the intent of the couple? Do they want a close intimate relationship with Jesus and are struggling and wrestling with God together? Could it be? I remember I was with my niece trying to support her to gain entry into a detox centre. The place was pretty full so not everyone would get in. The people that were sent away were a young couple that came in together. It was explained to me that couples were not likely to succeed.

Exactly

Gotta love the Africans!

And nobody becomes a priest to approve wrongdoing either - that too can cause one to end up in hell. See 2 Thessalonians 2:12

and priests clearly are held to a substantially higher level of accountability; many are, and will be, tragically, in Hell.

@@EndTimesMysteries The new document does not promote the blessing of sin, because as Pope Francis and the Vatican already declared in 2021; "the Church can not bless sin."

@@csongorarpad4670 Cdl Muller, Abp. Scnieder, Abp Vigano and a huge number of bishops want to let you know that they disagree.

@@csongorarpad4670 In 2021, the CDF stated clearly that the Church does not have the “power to give the blessing to unions of persons of the same sex.”

We will pray for him. What is his name?

🙏

Thank you, Teresa. My brother, who was molested by a priest also struggles with homosexuality and Fr Goring is deceived. It's like an intellectual rape for your son and / or my brother to bless their mortally sinful relationships... In 2021, the CDF stated clearly that the Church does not have the “power to give the blessing to unions of persons of the same sex.”

​@@DogtownTradingCo Steven

I have come to think that he is blessing each individual not their union. But I also think that they have to admit they are doing a sin and repent.

I think this is what hurts most. .Many of us know that a time or persecution was coming. We just didn't expect it would begin with our Pope.

Dear@@mmmz811, probably because the pope is one of us. Remember what he said at the beginning of his reign? He was asked, "Who are you?" and he responded, "I am a loyal son of the Church. And I am a sinner. Pray for me." And then the media began misinterpreting everything he said that they could possible misinterpret. And they were relentless, and the Catholic media, many of them, gave up trying to defend him. Not because they couldn't --he really was doing nothing wrong, but it took some time to dig down to find out what the reality was un

@@susand3668 Baloney, he's a raving material heretic. You haven't been paying attention. He's been an active abortion supporter by his actions. He's an active supporter of Marxist tyrranny and culpable in their crimes against humanity. Oh, I don't have time for someone so dense as to believe something so stupid as what you said.... Please educate yourself.

We are living in that time. The enemy is inside the Church and he causes damage by speaking just enough truth to sound Catholic but injects enough poison to bring souls to bondage to sin. And we the laity are condemned as bad Catholics if we cry out against these wolves in sheeps' clothing. We suffer relentless gaslighting like we see in horror movies. But Jesus will keep us on the right path. The Holy Spirit will be our anchor.

Is this Magisterially binding? Or private opinion of a Saint? Because I'm only bound by the infallible teachings from the Pope and his Magisterium, and not by the personal opinion of great Saints. I'm also a member of a Church that has an infallible promise that our Magisterium cannot teach error. So I know I can trust them. If you believe error has been taught in a formally binding way by the Pope, then you're actually more Protestant than Catholic...

Exactly. And it’s THIS that makes the document very sneaky. Please watch Timothy Gordon’s video on this today. Pope Francis’ trick….. he explains the historical underlying timeline of how and why he was elected by the St Gallen mafia. To accomplish for them exactly these 180 degree changes from within. It’s as sad as shocking, but history has on record many tragedies that are also shocking and scandalous. We must pray for ourselves first that we can hold fast to the Eternal Truth of the Faith, and for our loved ones too, that none are lost in this storm of chaos, and for our shepherds. So many will be divided now, and cardinals are already against cardinals as Our Blessed Mother said. And pray for pope Francis. His soul is as precious to the Lord as anyone’s is. 🙏🏼

AMEN!! Fr. Chris Alar makes that very point - and he does so very well. 🙏

Yes! You have articulated my concern about this announcement (I couldn't put my finger on it) And the document indicates that the blessing should be given discretely so as not to cause scandal, but the scandal has already been caused by making this announcement and allowing the media to do their usual job on it.

Blessing the couple condones the act of them being together. It is heresy to believe that doing evil is okay if good comes from it. Beware!

@@lotusblue8945 Where does it say that the blessing should be given "discretely". From my reading it just says that to avoid scandal it shouldn't resemble a wedding.

Not necessarily. Some people do start experiencing conversion while living that lifestyle. Imagine a a couple who’ve lived together in sin for a long time, and then beginning to experience conversion and being remorseful for their sin. That can be a big adjustment to separate from one another if they’ve made a life together. They might come seeking grace to strengthen and help them out. The priest can use his discretion if he discerns them to be sincere or just arrogantly seeking approval or trying to make a statement, and the fact that it’s meant to be spontaneous, private, and non-liturgical is meant to avoid people coming to make a statement.

​@@tessa7413The exception should not be the rule. That sounds like a very rare case.

@@SobreEstaRoca yeah but I wouldn’t know how rare. The same would also apply to heterosexual “couples.” I’m just imagining that the situation could be more complicated than just giving up sin and separating for people who’ve built lives together. They might want some additional help and need more grace.

Well said

@@tessa7413- most likely it would be one of the couple wanting to make a break - not the couple itself. I have to agree that's it's very unlikely a couple would come in and way "we want to repent"

Yes a blessing from a priest is worthless unless the person is repentant and goes and sins no more !

My dear fellow pilgrim, they can! The priest is not limited! These informal blessings are quite limited in that they cannot lead to same-sex pseudo-marriage! As Fr. Mark said, the Declaration is brilliant! Yes, it is written by priests to priests, so maybe we lay people are missing something, but when a faithful priest like Fr. Mark tells us there is nothing wrong with the document, I think we should listen, don't you?

@@susand3668not when it goes against what is stated in the Bible. Cannot be blessed as a same sex couple, very simple, for my simple mind.

Dear@@stevetodd693, Merry Christmas! Are you talking about the same Bible that tells us to bless our enemies? I am teasing you a little. FS does not insist that priests always have to bless those who come to them asking for God's mercy. If there is no privacy, if there is going to be some scandal, if there is the least whiff that the couple is looking for legitimacy, then of course the priest is not to give the blessing.

@@stevetodd693 Yes, your mind is quite simple. That's why you don't realize that what you follow in the bible is a reflection of your own conscience. Leviticus says "stone the adulterer" Jesus says "no, unless you are with no sin, unless you think you are any less sinner than her." Paul, on the other hand, says "the hell with sinners (and unbelievers)", so, who should you follow?

@@Eunoia-hv3gm "Then Jesus said, 'Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they're doing...'" Luke 23:34 See? Nobody was asking for forgiveness. Do you think you know what you are doing? “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices-mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law-justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. Matthew 23:23 Are you too neglecting the former?

But this document nowhere states anything about repentance

That's the problem ​@@patricias8628

@@patricias8628Fr. Mark covers this in his previous video- as scripture says “there is a time and a season.”

@@G-MIP I totally disagree. I think this is what Pope Benedict XV1 was talking about when he use the phrase “false mercy”. To confirm them in their sin without repentance is faults mercy

God bless you Fr Mark, you’re so brave. ❤

You clearly haven’t gotten your information right and from the right source. The document was a response to the church in Germany who wanted to develop a process to legitimize same sex unions. Please let Vatican news be your source and not CNN.

It seems to be a response against what the German bishops are doing.

Unfortunately…Fr Mark is blind to the evil and confusion within this document that does not call for repentance. Fr Mark needs our prayers to have his eyes opened.

He does see it just trying to justify it! His heart is right, he knows ❤

Exactly.

Perfect! Thanks.

That was beautiful! Thank you for sharing that!

no one is saying you can't bless them or cast away them... But document saying "blessings for same sex couples" , father why can't you see the error in this , a couple means two person in union , who are continuing their sinful relationship, by not considering church teachings " What type of blessings will they get?

A blessing of mercy and grace just like you can receive because you are also a sinner@@Goodboy-sq4ot

Way to go Captain! 🌊🛞🌊

Exactly!!!!! Well said!

Here is the big disconnect! Why bless COUPLE! Now, Fr. Martin is rejoicing to have finally blessed same sex couples. Why make this FS document when it has always been the practice of the Church to always bless sinners whoever you are?! Why sow this confusion? Surely, the authors are not naive to think of the possible global impact of this document especially among liberal priests, especially the priests in Germany! This document is problematic; and I really wonder why Fr. Mark is not a bit alarmed of the havoc this will cause to the very souls of the people whom this FS is supposedly intended to reform. Time will tell the fruits of this document that tries to compromise, work around the fast rules of our doctrine. If conversion is what the Church intends to accomplish, God has given us the complete solution in all of the 7 Sacraments. There’s nothing more you can ask for from the Goodness of God.

Agree

@@joantiquina The devil is orchestrating this confusion. Just read these comments. It's just what he wants.

I agree. Communion in the hand traced this very path. It became open to interpretation. There are already dioceses in Germany who are actually scheduling blessing ceremonies for gay couples. Father, this has opened the floodgates whether it was the intention or not.

Dear@@tdeo2141you are right!! The German Synodal Way has been hijacking the German Catholic churches, and the pope is doing his best to stop it The Declaration, Fiducia supplicans (FS), is a tool to STOP the liberals in their tracks! So, FS uses the language of the German Synodal Way to tell them NO -- no, ceremonies are not to be in church, with witnesses and rings and flowers. Any blessing of couples (which is a trademark phrase of the German Synodal Way, so it's like saying to them, "We're talking to YOU, Buddy!") has to be spontaneous (not like Fr. James Martin with his photographer and his New York Times reporter!) and private. Cardinal Fernandez is not troubled is the blessings do not take place, if the local bishops all across the globe decide not to implement FS at all, as long as their theology is correct. As long as the German Synodal Way implements it, and stops their horrible public quasi-weddings!! Let us pray for the success of the pope against the liberals in Europe! We can hold the line against our liberals here! Right?

Fr Mark. I agree with both of the two previous comments. What you have said is naive. I predict that within months you will see priests like James Martin performing blessings for same-sex couples that look no different from weddings , best men, flowers and all. This inch at a time approach has happened repeatedly in history. What would have happened had Neville Chamberlain stood up to Hitler? All that is necessary for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.

Dear@@ronalddavis6430, bless you for your concern for the Church. WE members of the Church desire so desperately that She be found pure and without spot as the Bride of Christ. But I think your accusation that Fr. Mark is being naive is a little misplaced. I think that he, as a priest, has heard more confessions of evil, and understands the ways of evil, far better than you or I could ever do. Secondly, please re-read paragraph 4 of FS. This is the foundation upon which FS is built. Here it is: "4. Pope Francis’ recent response to the second of the five questions posed by two Cardinals[2023 "Respuestas a los Dubia" 2] offers an opportunity to explore this issue further, especially in its pastoral implications. *It is a matter of avoiding that "something that is not marriage is being recognized as marriage."*[Ibid. 2 c] Therefore, *rites and prayers that could create confusion between what constitutes marriage* - which is the “exclusive, stable, and indissoluble union between a man and a woman, naturally open to the generation of children”[Ibid. 2 a] - *and what contradicts it* are *inadmissible*. This conviction is grounded in the perennial Catholic doctrine of marriage; it is only in this context that sexual relations find their natural, proper, and fully human meaning. The Church’s doctrine on this point remains firm." When FS is talking about being "pastoral", it says, it is being concerned with YOU, sir, with YOUR CONCERNS. YOu should be dancing in the streets! And the rest of the document builds on this theme -- that only Marriages will be blessed by the Church.

indeed, if nothing has changed why is there anything written at all? this looks like the beginning of one of those slippery slopes - and very open to whatever interpretations or misinterpretations are wanted. I, for one, am again embarrassed for my Church in the face of an evangelical friend who already thinks the Catholic Church is evil. How on earth can I defend this?!

Yes, Cynthia, the document is slippery. It mixes the truths with wrong directives to bless 'couples' in illicit unions. And Fr Mark can't see this!

To me, the fruits of this document are already apparent. Confusion, misuse and scandal... All things are known by their fruits. Fr. Mark I listen to you all the time and know you are a holy, dedicated priest who loves the Lord. All that you said is true, but I just feel you may not be seeing the damage this is already doing to the faithful and the church. Praying for you and all the good priests needing to deal with this situation. And praying for the Church. May we all one day be Saints together in heaven.

The document is not unclear. The bad actors jumping to obfuscate and misuse are causing the problem. Don’t lay that at the feet of Pope Francis, it’s not his fault

Fr. Dwight Longenecker First we overlook evil. Then we permit evil. Then we legalize evil. Then we promote evil. Then we celebrate evil. Then we persecute those who still call it evil. 🕊️🙏🕊️

Fr. Dwight Longenecker First we overlook evil. Then we permit evil. Then we legalize evil. Then we promote evil. Then we celebrate evil. Then we persecute those who still call it evil. 🕊️🙏🕊️

Poor st John the baptist, He could have use the same tactic and bless Herodia and Herod so could have save his head

To not give counsel to a couple in a mortally sinful relationship to get out of that relationship that will only lead them to hell and instead invoke a blessing is very sick and wrong. In 2021, the CDF stated clearly that the Church does not have the “power to give the blessing to unions of persons of the same sex.”

I'd like to think that maybe Fr. Mark doesn't want to add fuel to the negativity -because this controversial document is already divisive enough & ignites negative emotions from all sides. Maybe he doesn't want to add to that chaos. Anyway, he keeps repeating that he can't bless sin & that the document basically says it is up to the priest to approach the situation w/ prudence & w/o using any liturgical blessing w/c might be likened to that of the sacrament of matrimony. This for me is enough. The only thing lacking maybe is he needs to acknowledge that the document was worded in an ambiguous manner w/c may lead to various interpretations (well it already did). On the other hand, maybe he intentionally wants people not to overly focus on its ambiguity but rather to interpret it as how conservative priests would interpret it. He wants to look at the positive side & maybe also to not tire ourselves w/ analyzing or assuming the intention for issuing such a document. That it's better to keep our peace by focusing on the bright side or the possible bright side of this, and to of course always pray hard for the church & our church leaders. Well, this is juat what thought.

I get the feeling the Pope wants to be all things to all people and offend nobody. Why else would he so often be so unclear?! Personally, I think this looks like the start of a slippery slope, articulated in such a way that people can wishfully think it's okay to bless sinful unions if they want.

It's not a loophole. JPII used the same distinction in Familiaris Consortio.

Yes I've seen Father Alar's post and he does give the most understanding of the Pope's blessing to bad our Pope didn't word his blessing as not to stir so much confusion,

Yes! We need to pray for all priests and bishops; they have such a burden and need wisdom and fortitude from the Holy Spirit

But what happens when we don't correct the sinner??Who will be responsible, where is our shephard?

One cannot be so naive to think that the consequences we now see immediately after were unexpected. Can we really believe they did not foresee this? And closing it with “no further discussions”?

This Pope has been the master of confusion. Hopefully it is unintentional but it has been the result either way.

u can bless the sinner ,but as a couple no!

Blessing the individuals can easily be construed as blessing the COUPLE as a couple, not as two individuals. I think that it's very unlikely that a gay couple is going to go to a priest and ask him for a blessing so that they can repent.

They probably aren’t repentant, as you say, but the scandal of this is already loud and clear. A publicized event by SJ James Martin and surely other corrupt priests happened within 24 hours of this documents publication. Do the priests and laity defending this document realize scandal is also a sin!

Such blessings can/ should be done in a confessional box

@@stevedrake1861 its already starting , at some places they are already calling for a blessing 😮

Exactly!!

Thanks for saying this.

absolutely correct

Are you a validly ordained Catholic priest?

But How can you forgive them their sins if they are married and going to walk straight out of the confessional and back to their marriage. Jesus also said “go and sin no more”.

Right. How can you forgive, if, in their obstinacy, they refuse to acknowledge their error.

What about go and sin no more?

Repentance is essential. So is some degree of contrition. They're neither repentant nor contrite if they're holding hands while Father James Martin is "blessing" them in front of New York Times cameras, as famously happened in one case. That was outright defiance.

Yes, father, "todos", but you can not give a blessing, simultaneous or otherwise, to a couple involved in homosexuality. That would be confirming them in their sin. As another viewer has said, invite them to confession instead. That would be the real blessing that each one needs-- the Divine Blessing.

What WILL it look like? Fro you? Wil you bless them if they are u repentant with hi plan to chAngie? Not talk priests are conservative This is fuzzy language that gives progressive Modernists priest carte Blanche to to simply bled them as couples , and they will be condoning it by omission of any language that says three must try to end it and blessing each of them separately in theat context onky. This is a mask for thre “devout Hindi sexual not changing lifestyle. You are way too unclear If you trust the other priests I can’t think you dint know better. Look at Chicago fathers giving sermon on Fathers Day 2022..

But you were blessed to move your heart toward God first - you were blessed to have some souls in your life, perhaps, praying for you, you were blessed to move forward and be true to grace given having been blessed by that grace.

Yes, Vatican should have encourage the sacrament of reconciliation instead of this baloney "blessings"

He is choosing to be naive about the intent of the document. It is a gateway. The German bishops got what they wanted.

Priests need to be calling them to repentance and receive the blessing in the confessional.

The people who will try to come to a priest to ask for these “couple” blessings are not trying to repent. If they were trying to repent they would come alone and go to confession. May God protect our faithful priests.

Why is everyone avoiding that particular statement. God is making something clear about the Church here and rather than calling for fasting and prayer we are spending valuable time trying to excuse the inexcusable. And the timing is nothing short of evil.

Yes! Thank you!

This is exactly what it means. Don't be fooled by the rhetoric of priest who claim there is nothing new.

How ridiculous. If you read it in a spirit of charity and through the eyes of tradition you would never make such an absurd comparison.

@@AnaMT1985 are you denying the KKK organization a blessing? How dare you? Are they not made in the image and likeness of God like a gay couple?

He is leading ppl into confusion....

I still believe that blessing couples in irregular situations is where the problem lies. It isn’t legitimizing a civil marriage or civil union, but the coupleship IS being blessed even though they should not be a couple. That’s close to where the US Episcopalians and Canadian Anglicans began to go off the rails.

In 2021, the CDF stated clearly that the Church does not have the “power to give the blessing to unions of persons of the same sex.”

Fr. Dwight Longenecker First we overlook evil. Then we permit evil. Then we legalize evil. Then we promote evil. Then we celebrate evil. Then we persecute those who still call it evil. 🕊️🙏🕊️

​@@kimbui926 Amen

I also love this quote too " love the sinner not the sin"

​@@dav1d230Actually it was Ghandi who first said "love the sinner, hate the sin" i always thought it was a catholic precept.

@@kimbui926 That’s exactly what is happening 😢😢😢😢

Come to Orthodoxy, brother!

@@st.michaelthearchangelorth1055 Stop being in schism

It's a very applicable verse that God gave you. This is the blessing of same sex couples and other irregular couples. It's a step in the wrong direction for sure.

seems you've hit a nail on the head!

Yeah, like the appearance of doing the righteous thing by discriminating against you fellow brother in need when that's exactly what the devil wants. I hope you keep this words in mind, too.

@@piesho Okay, so what is doing the righteous thing in your mind then? Marrying all the gay people in the church, blessing commonlaw couples, just throwing Christian marriage right out the window? How about ordaining openly gay priests that are in homosexual relationships? I suppose all that should be next.

@@piesho That's a straw man anyway, because any gay person, any sinner, any adulterer can come for a blessing a person and sinner and will not be turned away. Coming forward as a couple is not coming in your time of need, it is an activist stance, looking to push the church to sanctify that which is not holy or God ordained.

Those last lines are straight from the depths of hell and Satan himself. Fr Mark is deceived and so are you. To not give counsel to a couple in a mortally sinful relationship to get out of that relationship that will only lead them to hell and instead invoke a blessing is very sick and wrong. In 2021, the CDF stated clearly that the Church does not have the “power to give the blessing to unions of persons of the same sex.”

As much as I respect our dear Fr. Mark's opinion, Bishop Strickland, from the diocese of Tyler Texas, feels very different. Fr. Mark is "Canada's priest", while Bishop Strickland is "America s Bishop".... It makes for a heart breaking situation, that's for sure...🌊💔🌊

@@zionlion4445 Don't get heart broken, just follow the truth and reject the errors from this novel document. Pray that Fr Mark repents. I wouldn't hold your breath that Pope Francis or Cardinal Fernandez will repent. They invite this kind of confusion, contradiction and actual heresy.

@@MPFXT I was still reading through the comments when I felt all that emotion... I washed dishes for an hour afterwards, and I'm much better now, even though I wouldn't recommend getting in an argument or boxing 🥊 match with me today...he he LOL. Thank you, you are sweet. 🕊️🌹🙏

@@zionlion4445 I wouldn't hit a girl, but you'd probably hurt your hand if you tried boxing me.

I got confirmed in the Catholic church 3 years ago on Easter vigil. I do not regret one moment of it. In fact, becoming Catholic is the greatest joy of my life; Holy Mass is the highlight of my day. AND I am hard right on doctrine, strict and zealous. So I have concerns about how Vatican communication seems to be unclear so often. My point is, don't let the things you cannot control have a negative impact on your spiritual journey. The Catholic Church is the true body of Christ on earth, and her teachings contain EVERYTHING you need for advancing in virtue, and the salvation of your soul. Don't give up! Fight the good fight of faith!

The Pope is a human being and a very flawed one at that. Jesus is the head of the Catholic Church so we will follow His teaching and not the sinful ones that Bergoglio puts out. With humans there is always corruption but we must persevere because no other church has Jesus in the Eucharist..

Simple as that, this father is going to lead millions of souls to hell if he consents to ''blessing'' these sinful relationship. Pray God spares the faithful from his wrath.

@@consecratedsoul Fr. Mark is not leading people to hell. He's still a faithful priest. MrFrenchy is quite right though in what this document lays out.

Are you serious

@@user-ne8vl2uh8g I was going to ask the same question: are you serious? He generally speaks the truth, yes, but this time, I do not know whether it is because they are all scared of the authoritarian pope who does not hesitate to sack bishops and priests as if they were mere employees of his private company, or Whether he chose to be in deny because the truth is so hurtful and unimaginable. I personally almost had heart attack last Monday, I am not exaggerating. It looks like some usually outspeaking priests are pretending to read the opposite of what is written on the document. I understand this is a form of psychological attempt of defence in front of what is perceived as a great danger, but I wish they just kept quiet, instead of using their influential platforms to mislead people. After such public endorsement, they lose all authority to preach about the need of repentance, the salvation of souls or the Cross. After such endorsement, you can say do not steal, do not commit adultery, do not commit abortion [instead of preaching chastity and walking in holiness], which is what Team Bergoglio wants. He wants the Church to become just an empire in which it is all about saving the planet, welcoming migrants [instead of speaking up against rampant corruption and abusive exploitation and inequal redistribution of resources in the countries peoples are fleeing from for instance] r caring for the poor…What is the difference with freemasons or other cults? Nothing, except that they are forcing their ungodly laws on members who did not choose to be part of a cult, and that they are doing this on purpose: stealing what belongs to the Holy of holies because as the Bible tells us, the devil comes to steal, destroy, and kill. We, lay people need to force our priests and bishops to choose their camps. This is not a mere incident, it is spiritual war becoming physically visual as the enemy does not even hide his agenda today, confirming that the end is near.

No offence meant but Lord Jesus Christ alone is our refuge and no human being.

AMEN!

Amen - he simply needs to repent and publicaly rebuke this heretical document! In 2021, the CDF stated clearly that the Church does not have the “power to give the blessing to unions of persons of the same sex.”

Take refuge in a mere mortal???

@@keepers... That is being pedantic imo. The OP simply means to continue to provide followers with spiritual support.

Yeah, that's a good point. The document may be all flawless and not in a slightest conflict with our Faith so it does not harm faithful priests, but the real question is, what is going to be the overall pastoral outcome in the actual reality? I'm afraid it's not going to be good.

So encourage blessing Lust scandal and Sodom and Gamora... also EVERY LGBTQ GROUP IN EVERY COUNTRY HAS PRAISED & WELCOMED THIS NEW SATANIC MISREPRESENTED HIDDEN AGENDA ... GIVE AN INCH SATAN 😈 TAKES A MILE wake up 😮

Well said, my concerns exactly

The answer to those questions is no...only if you presume to know what's in the souls of those asking for the blessing. Isn't judgement of your neighbor's soul a serious sin? You sound like someone who watches people go up to receive communion, questioning each one's disposition. Guess what also is not realistic: That every heterosexual receiving the blessing at the end of the concluding rite of Mass is free of sin that they legitimize (how many liars, gossipers, and masturbators are in the sanctuary during the time?) But we still say it's proper and helpful to receive the blessing, yes? And the guidelines of the declaration make it clear that the blessing is not to have any elements which would provide for the misconstruction that a sinful union is being condoned or legitimized. Furthermore, it says that a priest can say a prayer before the blessing which asks for God's grace to lead the couple into the complete will of God. That's an excellent opportunity for the couple to hear that the blessing wishes for them to live a chaste life. If there's any confusion, it is not from this document. It's from the devil who is appearing to you in the form of secular media, anti-Francis provocateurs, and anti-Catholic "Christians."

Lets say that you had multiple children with a mistress but you changed your minds and desire to become good christians and folow God´s will, wich is to live a chaste life, (since you separated from your wife a long time ago and theres no chance for reconciliation) even if you have to work together with your mistress in order to give a stable environment for your children. If you and your mistress desire a blessing in order for God to give you strenght and wisdom to do His will then wouldnt you two be able to recive such blessing?

Amen! Like he said, we should probably keep in the loop with things going on, but not one single person here on earth can judge anyone else, only God can do that. We are here to pass His light to everyone, even in absolute truth. It seems there is a fine line between bringing truth to everyone and judging their souls. I am currently working on only bringing truth and not judging. Letting God be the judge.

Amen dear Kate! 😁

In 2021, the CDF stated clearly that the Church does not have the “power to give the blessing to unions of persons of the same sex.”

Yes and the "go and sin no more" is missing lately

Why doesn't Fr Mark see the seriousness of this!

@thomasmc7752 did you watch the video? He clearly does understand this.

@@jcers Oh...I didn't mention his understanding of anything.

As I understand from this, the union as such is not blessed, but the individuals who constitute the union.

​@@juliank7408 But the blessing being issued is not for individuals. Its for them as a couple. That's the actual word used in the paragraph.

Michael Lofton actually spoke against bishop Strickland and you listen to the guy? No wonder you approve of the heresy

Anyone silly enough to listen to a heretical "pope splainer" as pathetic as Michael Lofton, well, you might want to become Catholic someday... hurry.... hell's going to catch up with your illogic in a hurry!

@@danielscalera6057 Exactly!!! Michael Lofton is a bit of a theological joke...

@@danielscalera6057imagine being such a fan boy that you refuse to believe he could have done something wrong. I called it 6 months before cause I saw the stuff he was saying. I believe he’s a good man, but good men make mistakes that can have massive repercussions.

@@Jerds Lofton or Strickland? If you mean fanboy of Strickland then what did he even do? Part of the scandal was that he was removed without a clear reason

I think it should be noted that those who would do that to this document do that to scripture anyways. They don’t need this document to twist, yes they will, but that doesn’t mean it’s a bad document.

yes exactly🙏🏻🕊✝️🕊🙏🏻

conservative or not; it is sodomy with the full iintention, and we have heard this from Holy Bishops!

Like James Martin!

but eventually those priests will answer to God...meanwhile we pray for the deceived, the confused, and all who need to repent.to come to the saving knowledge of our Lord, Jesus Christ.

That sounds quite relaxing actually

I'm sorry that he's not being faithful to Holy Mother Church. In 2021, the CDF stated clearly that the Church does not have the “power to give the blessing to unions of persons of the same sex.”

The full name of the "CDF," as mentioned here is the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. This is the department that was headed by Josef Cardinal Ratzinger, who later became Pope Benedict XVI. You stated that "the Church does not have the 'power to give blessing to unions of persons of the same sex," The operative word here is "unions." Father Goring is not saying anything about any kind of blessing of unions. His concern is with individuals; that is, people who are earnestly trying to repent of any such behavior, who want to stop sin in their lives and become reconciled with God through the Sacrament of Reconciliation. Father Goring states that a priest is not going to bless sin. A priest is not going to call good evil and evil good. This would be in direct conflict with the 2021 statement by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Therefore, Father Goring's statement is perfectly faithful to Holy Mother Church. @@MPFXT

No he made a massive mistake

Exactly, "Go and sin no more'!!! I didn't hear you say that, Fr. Goring. Maybe you won't dismiss or "write off" this message: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-h9yyM0OuFKo.htmlsi=8N6Q5jWQRgLYmiPq I find it very disturbing that you fail to see that this document does not state the blessing is for people who want to be free of this sin, who want to no longer live that lifestyle! You give the blessing, yet they have no intent to let go of that sin! It's like giving a blessing to a female that's on her way to get an abortion and has no intent on not going through it!! If you can't absolve the sins of a confessor who has no intent on repenting and has no intent on no longer living in error or sin, then how can you give a blessing???!!! You need to retract what will confuse so many souls and lead them to hell.

I think many bishops and priests are afraid to publicly admit what they think of this heretical document -- because they have seen what Pope Francis and his ruling circle do to bishops who publicly oppose their modernist agenda. The removal of Bishop Strickland and the removal of Cardinal Burke's salary are just the latest examples.

But you have to be "lovingly cruel " and warn them that in hell there are sinners, because they loved their sins, and sometimes they were "loved" too much, nobody dared to speak to then about their sins.

But don't condone the sin by blessing it.

May Holy Spirit guide you through this difficult journey,only trust in Jesus and follow Jesus 🙏🙏

Fr Mark

A spiritual work of mercy is to admonish sinners i.e. that's an act of love

AMEN

Hi Irmgard, Thanks for the post. I just read Cardinal Mueller's essay. I agree with him that a hypothetical "c blessing" as he calls it is wrong because it blesses "circumstances that are contrary to the gospel". But I don't see any concept of a c blessing in FS. FS is saying you can't bless sin but also ensuring this isn't interpreted as opposing b blessings to sinners. I know Cardinal Mueller is smart, but I don't see what he sees when I look at FS. God bless.

Our state-owned media whipped up the public into a frenzy to the point that our churches were being burned down. I don't watch the nightly news but I am not so naive to think that it cannot affect us.

There is no truth in the news; and no news in the truth. The Church can’t bless same sex anything.

The documents / magisterium was not touched. This is NOT A DOGMATIC document. I need to read the document. But like so many, I am troubled by the ambiguity that is like a cloud hanging over us. Fr. Mark is correct. ALL SINNERS who are struggling with any sin, must be loved and supported during the trials.

​@@jdglock9114 its authoritative. It has the approval of the Pope. It's part of the ordinary magisterium.

@@katherinec.1497 I'm told it's not a magesterial document, that it's merely a Vatican document ordered by the pope. I'm not sure what the difference is? It's still a problem, as even though it doesn't chance doctrine outright, it's opening the door and is clearly blessing same sex couples. Many are looking the other way and saying there's no problem, because it doesn't bless same sex unions. Its still blesses the couple stepping forward in a sinful relationship. It's happening at the same time as the Anglicans are doing this. To say there's no problem is naive, yet so many are.

@@katherinec.1497 "its authoritative. It has the approval of the Pope. It's part of the ordinary magisterium." It has no authority whatsoever. No one can give anyone else the power or the right or the duty to cause scandal. You are lying. Lying is a sin. You are also blaspheming by promoting sin and lies and scandal and telling people who do not support such that they are somehow guilty for the sins of others, so you are a hypocrite, a false teacher, a scandal monger, a false accuser, a heretic, etc. Were you these things a few days ago before the document came out? If not, then is this not proof that this diabolical instrument has caused you to fall from grace? The ordinary magisterium is what the Church has always taught. The Church has NEVER taught this insanely evil garbage before. And the truth is, she does not now and will not in the future, so whoever you think the 'Church' is is obviously not the Church. Now you are not only a lying, falsely accusing hypocrite heretic who promotes disgusting displays of public sin being 'blessed' both scandalizing and demoralizing the faithful and the innocents, and also persecuting the faithful, both priests and laity, who refuse to accept this blasphemy, but now also are lying about what the Church teaches, what the ordinary magisterium is, and who has the authority to do what, to say what, to order others to do, say, or approve what. That's quite a list of bad fruit for only a few days' worth of being under this spell. Or were you like this before?

The gates of hell will not prevail against the church. Please have faith in the Holy Spirit, and in the Magesterium and in the Church.