Bruh i was just working while listening, not really paying attention when all of a sudden thinking why am i like super pissed off and annoyed rn? and what are these ants doing crawling on my brain inside my skull. Turns out this guys vocal cadence is the most aggravating Chinese water torture level shit i've ever heard, over and over the same tonal inflection mid sentence question mark? end of the sentence period. After 40 min my brain was basically telling me something to the effect of: Change the video or get an aneurysm. This dude and that guy from those foodwishes recipe videos could totally enslave the entire planet with their brain melting vocal cadences...
Anyone who says they’ve never laughed at anything concerning race is a liar and a snake lmao. Tom is right, it’s not funny in every context and there is definitely a time and a place but humor is subjective for a reason. I’m white and my boyfriend is black and asian, we both get jokes at the expense of the other and it’s all in good fun. Like Tom though, I wouldn’t go up to some random person I don’t know and make a spicy race joke.
context is such a big factor. cuz most of these "dark humor" people just like to say it to be edgy and be seen as cool or tough because they laugh at a bad word. also, sometimes they're just too obvious. the reason I like dark jokes personally is 1 because it's stupid, and 2 it takes me off guard.
My wife and I routinely make racial jokes with each other, and it’s a fine line. Like there’s a difference between making a joke about race/racial differences and making racial jokes. Edit: I’m clearly white and my wife is Mexican.
I never could stand DaftPina's vocal cadence and the way he speaks. It always sounds extremely smug and self satisfied to the point his content becomes unwatchable to me.
@@wildfiresp9606 To each their own. He has a large audience so certainly a lot of people can enjoy his voice and of course his content too. I just can't personally do it myself.
@@PrincessWynterSkye I think it's a mental condition, called Narcissism. Live with these types, there is zero explanation behind these awful acts, not even a sad past, and I realize some people are born egotical and evil.
Okay, full stop: if you have mental problems where you can't even handle confrontations online, you shouldn't even be doing commentary. That's part of the business. You will never get everything 100% right and will get backlash from it. If you can't handle that, don't freaking do it.
Don't forget this is the same person who relentlessly tried to accuse Pyrocynical of being a pedophile groomer and never apologized for it despite getting ratio'd by the entire internet
@@kazulitheseawing3284while Pyro didn't do anything major, he did try to groom the French girl years ago. He stopped the relationship as it started to leak out but no one understood what was going on and he ended it before it got worse.
@Jack For me it's the opposite, I love having long form videos/streams I can listen to while I work since all I do is drive and deliver packages by myself I can do whatever I want lol
@@hovesssharedspace8490 I doubt I know anything you don't. I'm just saying the whole point of it being satire down to the obviously bad attempt to hide the author's name probably would have blown right past me before college.
I dunno, anyone that is at least slightly familiar with twomad (even at the time prior to his schizopost rampage) could probably tell it was satire. Twitter art community was just finding something to get mad about again cause they're all bored, they're literally just bored.
Did you beat him up? Because hearing his voice makes me want to go full ape mode. Im not a violent person but I would absolutely go full monkey on him his talking just annoys me so much.
Also Daft calling someone else a "cuck" even though the one of the reasons he was in this entire situation was because Veronica called him the same word
I’ve not been following this drama between him and Moth much because it’s just retarded from TCR’s perspective honestly, but as a Moth viewer, he’s pearl clutching hard about Moth’s old content and misrepresenting shit. I’m glad Tom was just like “People cope and laugh at all kinds of fucked up things, so I don’t really care”. Based Tom
He's been getting worse and worse, now he's gotten insufferable and loopy over plagued moth. Poor tom was so over having him yelling about it and refusing to get off that topic when clearly he's not invested, informed or involved in that drama
I love that you are still uploading streams AND your old style of content, classic commentary, it’s a way to please everyone. TimFart is always feeding his loyal fans content, there is never any shortage.
I know you didn’t actually get in a wreck but Sam Hyde is 100% right about how much it’ll fuck up your life. I got into one 3 months ago that wasn’t even my fault and the outcomes from it have been terrible
Dude I got into one where I should've died, and then two to three months later I had to have my gall bladder removed due to damage from lack of blood flow
Praying for you my brother in Christ. I fractured my back many years ago in a terrible wreck I pray you heal well and you recover it’ll all work out brother.
The scariest thing and what, besides for family having no car or money to spare for tests, is keeping me from getting my license, is that you can do everything 110% right, pay complete attention, drive completely clean, everything. And your life still gets ruined because you can't control other people on the road. It's so scary
@Jack Okay like... They have a big mental episode where they tell you to 'kys' that they, 'hate you', etc, etc But then do a completely 180 and start saying sorry or they go back as if nothing happened basically IM bad at explaining qwq
@@FriedCircuit_ that’s not bipolar lol, bipolar is when you have episodes of mania and depression. Not episodes of being a dickhead for no reason and then being super apologetic. Maybe you’re thinking of Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD)
@ピカPikachu yeah you're pretty mentally challenged. Users are different and act different, shocking I know since you have to act a certain way on social media.
How though when Just Stop said he was the one who brought Daft in on the project? If Daft was behind it then he wouldn’t of been brought in on it after it was underway
dude the amount of gay stuff happening on the internet will never cease to amaze me. sure when lines get crossed it’s time to pump the brakes but man, mfs sure do be silly and send weird discord messages for absolutely zero gain lol.
3:23 - The "drawing copyrighted characters is also stealing" thing is a major L point. Fanart-ists don't draw those characters with the intention to proclaim ownership of the character. There's a general understanding by most everyone that they didn't invent the character they drew. The actual defense of TwoMad should be that it was incredibly unlikely he re-posted that art with the intention of fooling anyone into thinking he made it, considering he covered the watermark in a silly and obvious way, and especially considering artists are constantly on the lookout for people stealing their art, which I think is fair to take into consideration when seeing the reaction. TwoMad *did* technically steal the art, but it was for the sake of a joke that was as harmless as yoinking someone's hat off their head and giving it back right after. Not to mention TwoMad doing this more than likely gave the original artist more promotion than they otherwise would've gotten if he hadn't used their art; it's almost entirely a positive for the original artist. The reaction by artists is super overblown and hugboxy, but they're not being hypocritical by being mad at TwoMad, just overly defensive.
Mostly agree but with two things to add on. 1) reposting (free) art (with credit) is absolutely great way to promote artists! Blocking out the signature or watermark is very bad though as people tend to steal it further thus leaving the original artist with none of the credit or exposure while others gain (if not profit then followers) off of their art. 2) in this instance it only turned out positive for the original artist and gained traction BECAUSE of the overblown reaction to this situation. If noone got mad then there wouldn’t be threads discussing the original artist, and also the original post wouldn’t have blown up either. While its all a drama pit, that drama pit is the reason you are even thinking of the original artist and could easily find them if you wanted to commission work from them based off of liking the fanart picture you see.
@@Phaeirheehee I don't disagree with any of that, it's just that there's more factors to consider. 1) TwoMad is a comedian. In order for the joke to work, TwoMad HAD to cover up the watermark in a super obvious way. It can be argued he could have maybe lowered the opacity on the little mustache he superimposed on the watermark, that way the artist technically still gets credit, but I think TwoMad's comedy style is very "go hard or go home (within some reason)". It wouldn't have been his usual brand of humor if he wasn't being very purposefully stupid and somewhat inconsiderate. Plus, I strongly doubt people wouldn't have still gone after him if he did that; It's incredibly silly for the Twitter mod to even slightly suggest TwoMad was trying to fool anyone. 2) While it's true the backlash is probably what got the OG artist the most traction, we're assuming TwoMad didn't somewhat expect this type of backlash. Like I said, artists of all sorta have had their art used in ways they didn't permit, and it's super common to see threads by artists/randos calling it out when they see it. I mean, I can't tell you what happens in the timeline where TwoMad's repost didn't end in a Twitter mod, but my guess is that this was sort of his plan to get some level of hate for doing that. Again, don't really disagree with anything you're saying, I just don't think it applies to this situation.
@@Jacob41C I don't think anyone's getting into a legal argument about this. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if someone said that, but the majority of what I've seen has just been people calling him TwoMad an asshole/claiming he was legit trying to take credit for the art. I don't think the core of why artists get upset is because they think they have full ownership of what they draw, I think it's a much more human feeling, which is that it ALWAYS sucks to put effort into something, only for someone else to profit from it. Surely that's something a lot of people have felt at some point of time, but normally related to things that don't require as much skill and time as art. You're saying people's use of the word "steal" isn't right on any level, but I think it completely makes sense: Their art is being used without permission/credit, simple as that. The argument shouldn't be "you're using the word 'steal' incorrectly", it should be "some forms of stealing aren't bad". You could say I "stole" someone's design when I make fanart of someone else's character, but am I doing that with malicious intent? More than likely not, unless I'm clout-sharking or trying to hide the design belongs to someone else. I get that legally this is all technically permissible, but, again, I don't think most people are talking about that.
@@Jacob41C "Reusing others' work is a big deal in video and music", yes, but I'm saying that can be an issue sometimes. If I'm making a video calling someone in particular out as a bad person, it's sort of a no-brainer that I'll use their work in my thumbnail/video without credit, either because I don't respect this person, or because it's the main topic of the video, so it just makes sense you would use it regardless of approval. If I'm making a video totally unrelated to the particular pieces of art I'm using, but I use it anyway because it makes for a good clickbait thumbnail, and without the OG artist's permission, then at that point you're using someone's work in a pretty scummy way for your own profit. Saying, "well that's just how things work", is a super weak justification, especially when it doesn't HAVE to be a part of how things work.
@@Jacob41C Are you just not understanding what I'm saying? 1) I never said even the words "out of spite". I said that, in the scenario where you're making a callout video on someone, it probably wouldn't warrant any moral condemnation to use the art of the person being called out. I don't know how you extrapolated this to, "so you think you can only use someone else's work if you hate them". 2) The reason I'm willing to call TwoMad using that person's art as "stealing", is because it required he use that person's art in a way that could be considered bad etiquette. He could've reached out to the OG artist and asked if he could use their art for this silly meme, but seemingly he didn't. Does that make him a bad person? No. Is it stealing? Yes. Is it the worst kind of stealing imaginable. No. He didn't profit from it, it was clearly just as a joke, and it ultimately ended as a net positive to the OG artist. It's still stealing, but it's not the worst kind of stealing ever conceived. 3) I'm creating a standard where not all "theft" is bad. If you want a more gentler word with a less harsh connotation, we would say TwoMad "took" the art without permission, but I just don't think that does enough to still say, "hey, it not really the best thing ever to use something like that without permission".
I haven't watched daft ever since he called Jayden an attention seeking manipulator for discussing her anorexia. I didn't even like him before that, how people can watch him un-ironically just boggles my mind.
his videos are strangely calming, that is why i watched him, I also didn't really see those videos so i didn't knew, one of the videos that shows up that was 4 months old (not the just a robot one) that shows up in this video kinda lists everything messed up he did, i'm surprised it didn't catch on, I've seen people cancelled for way less lmao, Daft has done some very bad shit
With the way she presented it, she kind of was. Cry more about it not being politically correct to say and that Kesha is actually the most amazing musician of our era lmao
@@bruh-rt7sr Kesha basically started the metoo movement by accusing dr luke of sexually assaulting her. That's why i'm bringing her up, because critics used to hate her, but now calling her music anything but amazing makes you look like a POS to these people.
I think the argument most artists would make is that in an ocean of easily accessible art, a signature is pretty important so people at least have a name to find your work. To put someone's art out and blatantly cover up the name seems really scummy. You liked the work enough to post it but also didn't like it enough to credit the artist? I can't imagine you would say the same thing if someone where to just re-upload your videos and give the excuse "it's just a youtube video bro, who cares?"
the difference is that his videos make money, and the art doesn’t. also the tweet seemed like a joke. the artist still should have been credited, but i don’t think that the tweet was serious.
@@lauren-wy4ql the art, even if free, is promotion to potential commissions, merch, Patreon, ect. Which could make them money, so yeah the name is pretty important and though the joke might be funny to some, it's still basically theft and deserving of criticism
@@georgeliquor1236 that was a bad example, a more accurate one would be if you were giving candy with your brand on the wrapper but someone comes, takes a handful, and unwraps them before giving them to people. Completely defeating the purpose of giving away free samples
on one hand, its fanart that isnt being made for profit, but on the other, im sure the artist definitely wouldn't have minded a shoutout from twomad (or at least an @) which would have given them some followers. I think its netiquette for an account with some real beef like twomad or elon musk to at least provide some sort of link to the original artist so they can profit off of any new followers coming from those bigger accounts looking to fund them or something.
If I find a image that's pretty cool, I'm just gonna post it because I thought it was neat, I'm not gonna go on a wheres Waldo quest to look for the artist and tag them every time I want to post said image.
@@dumbfoundedkiryu9468 oh yeah feel free to do that. Its just etiquette for the people with very large platforms who have to think about how impactful sourcing a cool artwork they found and decided to post is. A small gesture like that could mean the world to the artist who made it ( as well as avoid these people screaming about theft ). Just think of it as people expecting accounts with a large following to do their due diligence.
15:52 Tom, may I call you Tom? Speaking about age, I am 44. I have my shit together and have a wonderful family. You nailed it when you said “it doesn’t change that much”. It really doesn’t. I still enjoy a lot of things I did when I was your age. Keep up the great content bud.
i put this in the bg of my drawing sesh and i was afraid that i might be not understanding anything since i was too focused on drawing, so i rewatched it, but then i found out this whole thing is as informative as white noise.
Crediting the artist is just a code of conduct of sorts for artists on the internet. Regardless of the potential, or lack thereof, for profit, or ownership of the character.
yeah i agree but twitter be annoying asf about it. i think its good people said who it was but like just say it politely?? nobody has to blow up, its literally twomad. twomad’s audience are literal infants ofc never take anything he says seriously.
I won’t lie, when he randomly switches to a normal speaking voice and throws an autistic quip in at like double the talking speed, it actually does make me laugh. It’s so retarded that it’s funny
I used to watch Daft, but something about him started to rub me wrong. Boy am I glad I stopped...he's pretty cringe. Oh, and this drama is super dumb and should've been handled privately.
I do find myself disagreeing over the fanart thing, but admittedly I am heavily biased as an artist myself, and especially given my own views over art.
@thekyleprojekt7996 I wouldn't describe it as shitty per se, but more so... understandably sensitive. The problem is, a lot of people don't see things from the artistic perspective, so expecting everyone to share the same viewpoint on art and whatnot comes off as shitty to those outside of those circles. Basically neither side really understands fully why the other has their opinions.
@@SavoxYT I am now dying because you played Hogwarts: Legacy on playstation 5. You have killed me. Let it be known that Savox has killed me by playing the video game Hogwarts: Legacy on Playstation 5
I've had this argument with so many people. I'm an "artist", and have posted my drawings knowing FULL WELL at the click of a mouse, they can do whatever with it. But as long as they're not making money claiming it as their own, then I don't care. There's nothing I could legally do. And it's not like I'm drawing anything other than cartoony crap anyways. Yet I have had terrible fan artists argue with me how it's still theft and that something has to be done. Yet they get mad when I say not to post their art online if they don't want it taken.
Finally someone with the same mentality! I drew a crap ton of fan art from low effort to decent. I actually wanted people to spread them around, too. Like, wasn't that the whole point with posting anything on the internet: viral recognition? Of course you should not be an asshole and at the bear minimum give credit and not claim any works as your own or use it for profit, but that's literally it. I made fan art using properties from Nintendo and everyone knows how stupidly strict they are with their properties to near abusing copyright. It's like reaching that level of insanity with being overly protective, similar to Golem, with your art is insanity.
@@JackTheBlindOrganistAndCrepey exactly. I loved seeing people share my stuff around. I get a lot of appreciation. But then you have people who would call me a scumbag just for saying everything you just listed. And most of these people who get upset do it on behalf of the artist without their knowledge, or they don't even profit off the stuff they drew. If an artist asks me personally out of respect or if someone's livelihood is on the line, that's when I take action. But if I'm getting blasted for reposting fanart that has nothing to do with them and not even claiming it as my own, I'll just start posting more credited art just to make them mad.
I used to work for a guy named Anton, more commonly known as “antoons” (he’s got pretty good content btw) and daft pina along with a lot of other art commentary creators made up a lot of lies about him. The whole situation was really sketchy and I hope Daft pina gets the karma he deserves tbh.
Oh my god i cannot listen to DaftPiña's weird cadence. Why does he talk like that? Doesn't anyone give him advice, like dont talk like a weirdo on your channel?
Removing someone's watermark on a artwork, fanart, or otherwise, is high tier cringe and there is no defense for it. Your friend is a degen and you defending him simply because 'friend' is cringe in itself. Why doesn't he just give the artist the bare minimum credit? Or maybe pay the artist to use said art without credit or whatever. I don't get the logic behind posting something like that at all even as a shxtposting account. Your friend could make original content, it isn't that hard. Just photoshop some doge images together.
Man, someone in the chat was saying stuff like "TURKEY WILL NEVER FAIL!". I think they thought the "Turkey" in your username meant the country. And I am pointing this out because, I am Turkish and I cannot stand these people as well. Everyone who just comes to the chat to promote their country like it is some sort of race or competition is just cringe, man.
man i remember my friend being like yeah i watch daftpina to get my animation fix. I still have neither the heart nor the energy to tell them everything
Someone in the chat said tom is bald. This is actually true, After watching every single 1 of his videos there's not a single time that he touches his hair VIA running fingers through it . there is nothing wrong with being bald but obviously It would destroy his RU-vid career, his hair is his personality.
I remember watching this live while waiting for my boneless extra hot buffalo wings orders. I laughed when I heard Wiggermind and a cute girl looked disgusted at me.
Ironically I was in plagued moths discord before it was private (I no longer am) and I didn’t need to verify anything to have access to gore! Also I was a minor at the time lol
Your Nene game is on point, beef rolls off you like water, for your insult style and social stance allow you to strike with your tounges full power. He knows the deadly art of good comebacks, an advanced form of cunalingus! I feel like the narrator guy from Baki saying that lol
The comments regarding art saying that it’s not a big deal or whatever is so stupid. Artists spend so much time on their art and for it to get stolen and say it’s a “non issue” is actually stupid
Lol. Tom keeps lightly tapping the little curly swirl of his hair quaffing out to the side. Touch the Quaff. Touch the Quaff. Touch the Quaff... Don't even know or care if I'm spelling "Quaff" correctly. Even if I'm not... thats just what that bit of Tom's hair is gonna be called by me now.
2:17 That made me realize. We're irreconcilable. I opposed him ever since I first saw him. I finally realize why. I don't want to admit it. But it seems... I like TwoMad.
As someone that in fact made a shitton of money off doing sonic fanart, it's a big problem for large accs to post shit without crediting. I don't really care since it's twomad and he's obviously a troll (and he's fucking funny) but most of my money came from bigger accounts sharing my posts/liking them/reposting them with my @ somewhere. It's how I ate for like a year when I was still trying to pay for school.
4:46 Tom I find it hilarious that those were leaked and I could care less of you said the N-word. As long as you not a kiddy diddler I’m on your side 😂
Tom, as a long time cigarette smoker, I can confirm newports or menthols in general are chick cigarettes. Camel filterless, Marlboro reds, and Lucky Stripes are men’s cigarettes
Fanart might not be their intellectual property or making them money, but they're basically using it to advertise their skills and get commissions so I understand the 'outrage' regarding 'stealing' fanart. I think some people even put that shit in their portfolios, it would be pretty shitty if a potential employer does a quick google search and finds your art credited to someone else. The mustache does make it better though.
While I get the mustache thing was done as a joke, as a digital artist myself, I would be upset, too. Shouldn't matter what the art's of, being Sonic fanart shouldn't devalue the art itself. It looked well made. Posting it online doesn't mean you don't still want credit for what you make, we want people to know something is ours that's why we put a signature on what we make. I think the whole thing was way overblown, anyone who knows anything about twomad would know he didn't whip out a pen and draw Blaze the Cat art outta the blue, but peoples' concern with it is valid. It's just kinda dickish.
Braxton is a 18 or 19 year old dude who’s still figuring out what it means to be an adult, and daft is some mid 20 year old who lies online for clout. I dunno. I think they both need to take a step back, like, Christ guys go smell the flowers. Also, Creepyreading being up dafts ass is a bit strange, because daft has been proven to be manipulative at best, and a liar at worst. Daft consistency leaves out very important context from his topics, context that would usually go against his narrative. Because as daft has shown us all, he doesn’t care about making good content, he cares about driving a narrative. The whole situation is weird. Also the whole giving Braxton the “you’re an adult now deal with it” like no, I’m telling all of you below the age of 22, you’re not grown yet even if you legally are considered an adult. The issue is, daft is my age or older than me, he should know by now not to act this way. The problem, is that daft VERY WELL could be right, BUT it’s been proven daft throws people under the bus and will distort the truth for his narrative
Please separate the cartoonist gossip drama from the exposé on the RU-vidr that sells gore to minors on the next videos. One content doesn't exactly complements the other
Took this from another comment but added a lil to it. Kiwi farms is like a bipolar psychotic friend who will stab you and then is the one to call the ambulance
And yes there are some channels that handle such morbid topics in a more sensitive way better like Disturbed Reality. But Plauged Moth's reccent videos definitely feel different and are changing into more long and into more well thought out videos.
Bro i fw your content on both channels i listen in my headphones at work but im about to stop listening strictly cause of how much you randomly yell/put other loud sh*t and noises in your videos with no warning like wassup with you stop that sh*t please
I love how twitter’s a platform where you can kill someone and people will be less mad then if you disrespect an artist. Also I think just stop should make a video where he actually clears the air. Most people won’t watch daft pina’s video and I think saying your leaving drama right after shifting the blame is a douche move.
