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My Temple Experience With David Alexander! 

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@TheHappyNarwhals
@TheHappyNarwhals 5 месяцев назад
So glad you were able to be David's escort. It warms my heart to know he got to hug Sis Braithewaite in the celestial room! Hurrah for Israel! Not many missionaries get to do that with their converted friends!
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Good morning Narwhals ... It truly was a Celestial experience. As I stepped back by one of the beautiful doors to go out of the Celestial Room there was a sister temple worker stationed at it and she whispered to me "Do you know what is going on here today?" I quietly explained and she said, "Oh! I've heard of him." I said you should go and say hi. I said, "If it's allowed I can stay here at the door while you go say hi. She hesitated and then said thank you and went to say hi. She stood by and waited for a moment and then looked at me and started to walk back, and I motioned and mouthed, "Don't leave. Say hi.), so she did and was able to get a hug from David. She walked back just beaming! Yes, it was a Celestial day indeed. God bless.
@alisadunn5443
@alisadunn5443 5 месяцев назад
I pray that David can be strong despite those who will mock him. The Gospel is truly amazing and sacred.
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Good morning Alisa ... You and me both. From what I have seen and experienced with David I assure you he is 100% genuine when he says he gets excited when the criticism comes for he knows he must be doing some great work to get such negative attention. He glories in it in a way. He's really quite fearless. God bless.
@emjames9865
@emjames9865 5 месяцев назад
What a beautiful video. We just love him! I'm so grateful for your spirit and that you could escort David. 💛
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Good morning @emjames9865 ... Thanks for watching and especially for cutting out some time to share a kindly and living comment. God bless.
@crisantocabrerajr.8540
@crisantocabrerajr.8540 4 месяца назад
That precious moment in celestial room with David and the Sister who taught him the restored gospel reminds me of Doctrine and Covenants verse that says...and if it so be that you should labor all your days in bringing but one soul unto me...how great shall be your joy...
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 4 месяца назад
Good morning Crisanto ... You are so right! It was a precious moment. It also reminds me of what is called "The Celestial Embrace" that we all will have with the Savior. It's such a representation of what "Joy" is ... Man is that he might have joy! Thanks for taking the time to watch my video and especially for taking time to share a comment with us. God bless.
@carmenbrown4051
@carmenbrown4051 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing🙏🌟
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Good afternoon Carmen ... Thanks for taking time to watch and for leaving a kind comment. God bless.
@denisemilne1330
@denisemilne1330 5 месяцев назад
I met David when he was in Australia. David is a true gentleman.
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Good morning Denise ... Thanks for watching and taking a moment to leave such an uplifting comment. Have a wonderful day. God bless.
@Nikkiotero
@Nikkiotero 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for this! I am so happy that you were Br Alexander's escort! Im so thrilled that Sis Braithwaite was there as well - what a glorious moment that was! Hallelujah!
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Thanks so much @Nikkiotero ... Thanks for watching and taking the time to share a loving comment. God bless.
@kevinwolford2634
@kevinwolford2634 5 месяцев назад
I was very fortunate to attend the session in Pocatello. The thing that struck me the most, having attended the temple for 45 years, is how Christ-centric everything is. I enjoyed the beautiful stained-glass window of Jesus the Shepherd in the chapel. There were other beautiful painting depicting Christ and his ministry throughout the temple. The ceremony has Christ front and center, showing us what He makes possible for us. I thought surely David would pick up on that, but as Marty explained, the temple is so different from our normal worship that we can get caught up in the minute details and not see the big picture. The temple is indeed the House of the Lord. Holiness to the Lord and all he has done and will continue to do for us. Christ is in everything if we can see it.
@dl1130
@dl1130 5 месяцев назад
It's changed immensely from the earlier ceremony I first went through. If the covenants had not changed, I doubt many of today's new goers would stay or ever return.
@shavingwithrich1846
@shavingwithrich1846 5 месяцев назад
Just subscribed to your channel Marty. I’ve been watching David since the very beginning. I’m so happy for him!
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Me too @shavingwithrich1846! I appreciate you watching and especially taking a moment to share a comment.
@skylerreddy5436
@skylerreddy5436 5 месяцев назад
You are such nice guy, and thank you for sharing.
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Hi @skylerreddy5436 ... Back at you! Thanks for watching and especially for taking a moment to share a kind and uplifting comment. God bless.
@elizabethpeterson9914
@elizabethpeterson9914 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing this beautiful experience. David is such a kind, humble soul, and such a good example to me. I was saddened to hear of those who mock him, except that I know that God has a wonderful crown waiting for him because of it. I was blessed to be able to attend the endowment of one of my former Primary students today. It was a beautiful day for me, and I'm so proud of her! I'm enjoying your channel, Marty!
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Thanks so much Elizabeth for you kind and loving words. God bless.
@maryfletcher9905
@maryfletcher9905 5 месяцев назад
THX MARTY! 4 sharing Your experience being David Alexander's escort for His very own Temple endowment!😂 I loved learning that you were able to take David and Sarah with you and Kathleen to 1:13 the Layton,UT Temple Open house! It is such a beautiful magnificent Temple!!(AND I WAS ABLE TO BE THERE ALSO the following Wednesday, 5/8/24,!) I am blessed to be a descendant of Christopher Layton (my Great,great Grandfather for whom the town Layton was named! I'm also honored to be a descendant of the Morgan Family who donated the property on which the Layton, ,UT Temple sitands today!! What a JOY💥 it is to realize the faithfulness of these ancestorsin bringing to pass this beautiful House of the Lord to help so many souls who have passed beyond the veil to receive the sacred covenants available to them to enable them to continue to progress and have the blessings of this progression through the willingness and sacrifice of those in mortality to take the time to perform these ordinances in behalf of them! SUCH A JOY💥 TO PERFORM!😀
@juliemackenzie559
@juliemackenzie559 5 месяцев назад
❤️🙏lovely video Marty!
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Hi Julie ... Thanks so much for watching my video and especially for taking the time to share such a kind and uplifting comment. God bless.
@longlifeprinters9
@longlifeprinters9 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing. After 37 years since my 1st time in the Temple, I can still remember that experience & my escort was so helpful in the whole experience. Yes, I can feel that David's sincerity & has experienced most of his life in the world but looking for that truth that he knew before & when found, it rang true to him. Those in the world are acting like people in a tall, spacious building looking out of the windows, mocking at those across the filthy river, clinging to the rod of iron, trudging their way on a narrow path, going toward light & peace & love; and the mockers don't like that one bit & they have to try to tear down others to make themselves feel good. Well, continue on the path & pay no attention to those that cannot offer something better.
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 4 месяца назад
Happy Memorial Day @longlifeprinters9 ... Such a beautiful day! Thanks for watching my video and then taking the time to share a few thoughts. You are correct ... You don't have to look to far before you see the Great & Spacious Building playing out all across the globe. My heart ache's for those in that building of hopelessness. I pray for them every night that some day they will have an awakening to the spirit who is ready and willing to enter a humble, sincere, softened heart to tell them the Good News of the gospel of Jesus Christ, especially as it is taught in His Church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. May God bless you always.
@BettyHorn
@BettyHorn 5 месяцев назад
How exciting! What a wonderful experience for all of you who participated! The best part is, when you wear your temple glasses, as you say, every time you enter the House of the Lord, you can have the same sort of experience! I get so excited every time I get to go, which is, at best, once a month because of distance and traffic. But I carry that spirit with me and it sustains me until I can go again. I have been following David since before he was baptized. I love to see how far he has come. I think this is part of what President Nelson said when he told us to think Celestial! How wonderful when we can all rejoice together!
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 4 месяца назад
Happy Memorial Day Betty! ... Yes, it is wonderful to share in the light of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, especially as we enjoy our temple experiences together knowing that it is our path back to our Heavenly Father's presence and with His glorious Son, our Savior and Redeemer, to be joint heirs with Him as Children of Christ, being reborn through His atonement. There's the birth as Father's children, then our mortal birth from our earthly parents and then our re-birth as Children of Jesus Christ, becoming His sons and His daughters in Christ. So, dear sister Horn, happy memorial day! God bless.
@artietate2348
@artietate2348 5 месяцев назад
I appreciate why you kept quiet in his preparation but given he was clearly freaked out internally I’d say it’s definitely time to talk and talk about the symbolism and meaning with him. Blessings brother!
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Good afternoon Artie ... Great counsel. I did do a video titled "Temples are God's Universities. What Latter-Day Saints Can & Can't Share About What Goes on in Them!" ... There are a plethora of videos done by several member's of the Church who have a much larger audience than I do who have discussed the symbolism of temple worship such as Bryce Dunford's RU-vid Channel where he has a series of 20 videos on Temple Symbols (#1 - #20), and Jasmin with "Temple Light" where she's done several videos on temples and its symbolism as well.. What's interesting to me Artie, is how well God knows his children. He knew David's heart and what he would feel and the unfamiliarity and discomfort he would experience, and even the "five minutes of freak-out", and still didn't press me to talk a lot about it with David before that day. I thought several times that maybe I should tell him about my video on temple symbolism and where I talked about the coronation of King Charles the 3rd, and showed the pictures of his anointing etc., but I was convicted not to bring those videos up or to direct him to them on my channel. As you know, David mentioned Boyce Dunford's twenty videos in his video. Those videos really go deep into a variety of the symbols and their symbolism and what he thinks they mean, and so, I don't know how far David dug into those channels or videos. What I do know is that at our lunch together on Wednesday I was prompted to mention the Church's website and its temples pages with the few videos the Church has put up including the video on Temple Clothing, and David pulled out a piece of paper and wrote that URL down, and so I'm confident that he got home and watched that before his temple date on Saturday. David really follows the spirit unlike many new converts that I know, and so I think David was led and God allowed him to have the experience he had ... and here's why I think He did. This is just my opinion, but during the first video where David shares his thoughts on his Endowment experience and then the 2nd one especially, he shares such incredible honesty with incredible faith filled expressions of counsel to those who are soon to go and get their own endowment and those who maybe haven't been to the temple for years for the very reason they experienced what David experienced, and it was so incredible and spot on and we now have it to share with everyone who are soon to go to the temple. It is wonderful! God bless.
@tamragoodrich6067
@tamragoodrich6067 5 месяцев назад
Beautiful video! Thank you!
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
And thank you too Tamara. God bless.
@kimberlyolsen9416
@kimberlyolsen9416 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for this!❤
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Good morning Kimberly ... Thanks for watching and taking the time to express your thanks. That's kind of you. God bless and continued success.
@helgemrklid2229
@helgemrklid2229 5 месяцев назад
David is a wonderful man .
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Good morning @helgemriklid2229 ... He certainly is. I suspect you are too! God bless.
@annroe1088
@annroe1088 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 4 месяца назад
Happy memorial Day Ann ... I hope it has been wonderful for you too! Thanks for watching and then taking a money to express appreciation. I too thank you for who you are and what you are doing to show your love for Christ and our Father in Heaven. God bless.
@wes2176
@wes2176 5 месяцев назад
Great video!
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Good morning brother Vines ... As you can imagine, it was a great experience. Thanks for taking a moment to leave a kind comment. God bless.
@helmuthnaumann8521
@helmuthnaumann8521 5 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 4 месяца назад
Happy Memorial Day @helmuthnaumann8521 ... Than you for watching and taking a moment to express gratitude. I take it as a gift of love. God bless.
@safrew1
@safrew1 5 месяцев назад
Loved this! ❤
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Hello @safrew1 ... That's so kind of you. Thanks for taking the time to not only watch my video but to share such a kind and uplifting comment. God bless.
@jkfrostable
@jkfrostable 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for being there not just for David but for those who are listening like me. The Spirit is truly guiding you in what you are saying and not saying. I have been afraid from the beginning that David would barrel through the Faith and end up quickly out the other side. With people like you by his side it will be harder for Satan to stop David from telling the world about the gospel of Christ. He has a pretty good size platform where he can reach those who would not hear the gospel message otherwise. I, like you have thought of several scriptures and stories that I would like to share with David. He is innondated with so much. There are many good ppl who are following listening reading and replying to David's messages. With both good and bad advice. I Love your analogy of the coronation of a King compared to the endowment- This reminds me of Rev 1:5-6 where it says we can become Kings and Priests unto God our Father through his son our Savior Jesus. He truly has a Kingdom made up of those who would be hiers, joint heirs with Christ. Davids wrestle with the Lord's ceremony reminds me of Naaman's experience his wives servant convinced him to follow the prophet Elisha's instructions and dipped himself into the river Jordon 7 times as was required by God. Then and only then was Naaman cleansed. He had to humble himself and have faith and do it the way he was told and in so doing was cleansed for it. 2 Kings 5:1-14 it had to be done in God's way and in the place God asked him to do it. May the good Lord bless you in all of your efforts in sharing his gospel!
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 4 месяца назад
Happy Memorial Day @jkfrostable ... Thank you so much for watching, and most especially for sharing such kind words and wise one's I might add. It is my belief that the original source of the "coronation model" was the ancient endowment ceremony, for it truly is preparatory ceremony to help each of us who are Children of the King of Kings. I think if we were to have our memories of our past life in Father's presence, talk about being challenged! We would see Him as He truly is and see us as we truly are ... Children of The King of Kings, the Lord of Lord's and the Priest of Priests, ... One Eternal Round! God bless.
@jeffreykinney8086
@jeffreykinney8086 5 месяцев назад
Liked and Subscribed! I’m 65, received my endowment when I was 19. I found nothing about the endowment strange or upsetting back in 1977, nor the blood oaths (now sadly removed from our ritual). My mother is from Pocatello. When next, if ever I’m in Pocatello, I want you to accompany me as well to an Endowment Ceremony. I love you for your belief brother. Thanks for holding David’s hand, maybe someone needs to ask him if he’s ever signed a contract before… there are executions and signatures… and then there are executions and signatures represented and given in other meaningful ways…
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 4 месяца назад
Happy Memorial Day brother Kinney ... Thanks for watching and for taking a moment to leave such kind and uplifting words. I live just 2 hours and 15 minutes from the Pocatello temple, so it's a yes from me whenever you find you'll be visiting there. I was 18 (One week from 19) when my father was my escort through the Salt Lake Temple just before I left for my mission to the Gulf States. That was the summer of 1973. I was taught well by my father about the symbolisms I would experience throughout my temple experience and I never felt uncomfortable or disheveled because of ceremonial liturgy. I felt the seriousness of my making covenants with God. That was back in the days you went to the Initiatory with just the white 'shield' and got help with putting on the garment of the Holy Priesthood. In many ways I feel blessed to have had those experiences for they broadened my understanding of my place as a son of God, a mortal, and one day becoming an immortal, eternal, exalted son of God, and a Child of Christ. God bless.
@trailbackhome
@trailbackhome 5 месяцев назад
So glad he had this opportunity with David. You’re right, they promote the accusatory fog. They also engage in the dark mist of distraction.
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Trail for your support and uplifting words of encouragement. God bless.
@jonelleaustin2213
@jonelleaustin2213 2 месяца назад
I am a ci am so thankful for the blessings of Lord to me. When I went to the Cagary Alberta Temple in 1977 before my mission, there were no temple classes l
@terrywalker839
@terrywalker839 5 месяцев назад
The trinity is non biblical. It came from the Naiceen Creed In the 3 century, Constantine was a pagan. Maybe you should do some more research on the trinity. Makes no sense to me or anyone else. Just try and explain it. God is not a God of confusion.
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Hi Terry ... Marty Braden here. I just read your comment and wanted to make sure I understood who you were referring to here when you said "Maybe you should do some research on the trinity". Was it me or who were you referring to. I certainly believe in the Godhead of the Scriptures as being three separate and distinct beings and not three persons numerically in one being, which is the trinity. Thanks for taking the time to watch my video and for sharing your comments. God bless.
@terrywalker839
@terrywalker839 3 месяца назад
@@MLBPublishing2023 Sorry that wasn’t very clear. I’m responding to the trolls that continuously get on these site and just cause bad feelings. I have the same belief in the Godhead. Three separate and distinct individuals like it was taught pre 325AD
@harlanurwiler7146
@harlanurwiler7146 Месяц назад
David Alexander is what the legitimate Christian community calls a "cult hopper." That is to say, he has navigated from one sect to another hoping to finally fit in somewhere. He was a Catholic until he was a teenager, and then he claims that he entered "Evangelical" Christianity and became a pastor. No one I know is sure of exactly what kind of pastor he was, where his alleged "church" was, or what became of it under his pastoral oversight. The closest information I have been able to find out is that David was part of the "12 Tribes" schism which was not a regular part of what most people call "Evangelical." Now David has decided to become a Mormon. He is free to do what he wants, of course. It is only regrettable that David Alexander never learned the true faith to begin with and then left it as a youth. He has my sympathies.... 😶😶😶
@maryfletcher9905
@maryfletcher9905 5 месяцев назад
@time stamp 1:13⬆️David Alexander 's Own Endowment WAS ON" MAY THE 4th /FORCE💥 BE WITH YOU!" 🗡️🎇 (and it WAS!!🤓😆) "U CAN'T MAKE THIS UP!!☺️"
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Hi Sister Fletcher ... Yup! In the heat of recording I sometimes make a variety of mistakes and dates aren't my forte'. You are correct that it was Saturday the 4th of May and not the 5th. Please forgive. God bless.
@maryfletcher9905
@maryfletcher9905 5 месяцев назад
Of course!!
@MarleneKerr-p6x
@MarleneKerr-p6x 5 месяцев назад
We believe in the bible and the book of mormon we have the jesus of the bible Joseph Smith seen Him
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Good morning @user-ux3vb5zg1p ... You are absolutely correct. thanks for sharing your testimony. I couldn't have expressed it more succinctly. God bless.
@AnaliliB
@AnaliliB 5 месяцев назад
I'm glad David has a girlfriend!
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Good morning @Analili ... Me too!. It's been quite a journey as you can well imagine. Having friends like you and all the rest of his viewers, has made that journey a happy one. God bless.
@hpagalla
@hpagalla 5 месяцев назад
Yes, you are happy now, because the lds church already changed the temple ceremonies to satisfy public opinions.
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Good morning @hpagalla ... At the risk of implying that I agree with you (When I don't), let me say that as a 70 year old man I know a thing or two about the temple ordinances, at least since 1973 when I received my own endowments. I have also studied them as they had their introduction in the "new" and last dispensation through the prophet Joseph Smith. Just as the Savior Himself knew that they Old Law would be fulfilled by His work of the atonement so that it "changed" to a new Law with new commandments, this work performed in the temple has had its developments since Joseph received the revelation regarding the work that needed to be done going forward. He told his successor Brigham Young that h=it was not yet complete and to get his own revelation from the Lord. This is true of every prophet and president of the Church. So, yes, there have been new "tweaks" that the prophets have received revelation on and they most definitely have not been due to outside pressure. The covenants and God's promises are the same now as they were expressed in Joseph Smith's day. One generation may need a bit more direct symbolic instructions than the next generation. The scriptures are replete with examples that show God teaches his people on the basis of what they need to help them overcome the world "in which they now live". No parent would be so lazy as to not recognize that each of their children have different needs and personalities and so they have to personalize their approach with each one. So @hpagalla, we can disagree to agree. I do appreciate you watching my video and more especially for taking the time to leave a comment. I also appreciate it in the spirit you did so, which was without a contentious spirit. it makes it so we can all be ourselves and respectfully allow each other to reason together. God bless.
@CryptoCPA
@CryptoCPA 5 месяцев назад
@@MLBPublishing2023 great response to that negative comment about revisions to temple liturgy I see people using lately. We believe in continuing revelation. Jesus Christ is leading the church & instructing the prophet on what to do for us in this day. It has nothing to do with outside pressure from Babylon. If people are critical of continuing revelation regarding the liturgy used in the temple ceremony (which is distinct from the ordinances and covenants made there), then they are really scraping the bottom of the barrel in their quest to find something to criticize.
@MLBPublishing2023
@MLBPublishing2023 5 месяцев назад
Not sure what happened but it cut off my last reply to you @hpagalla, so I will finish my reply to you. I have also studied them as they had their introduction in the "new" and last dispensation of the gospel by Joseph Smith. the prophet Joseph told Brigham Young that Joseph had got things going but that he needed to complete the work of refining the endowment etc., which indicates there were needed additions or refinements that needed revelation from God to complete them. The Lord has also reveals that we are still in the restitution of all things and we are not to try and restrict God from doing what He sees is necessary for the salvation and exaltation of Father's children, even a little "tweaking" of the wording of the Initiatory or the Endowment or the Sealings. These are His words for sure, but, mankind is human and therefore needs correction from time to time, even our prophets have been corrected when needing instruction from God on such sacred ordinances. God bless.
@marthadullaghan4616
@marthadullaghan4616 5 месяцев назад
Thank you, Marty for sharing your personal witness of David's temple experience. I have followed him from the time he first appeared on the CWIC show. I found his channel and begin watching his videos. I love the man and feel like he is a dear friend. Listening to his videos helped me to insulate myself from doubts caused from the falling away of some of my dear friends and even my own daughter. I looked forward to every video he dropped. His love and understanding of the Bible and the Gospel fascinated me. He has a way of explaining things that just resonates with me. I marvel how he is able to connect scriptures and reason things out. I remarried a Catholic man after my LDS husband passed away. That has been really hard because he reads and listens to the anti stuff and was giving me a hard time about the church. That has let up since I became a temple ordinance worker in the Richmond Virginia temple last summer. The Lord has really blessed me for my service! I love the temple and the peace it brings into my life. I have always had simple childlike faith in my Heavenly Father and my leaders and hearing David talk about it has made me realize what a gift it is. It really cuts deep when my friend or husband or daughter expresses their unbelief and disdain for the brethren. It has helped me be more humble and dedicated and closer to my Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. There is always a blessing that comes from each trial if we look for it and don't harden our hearts. Again thank you and I am glad as well to hear David has a girlfriend! Your sister in Christ Martha Dullaghan. PS ...today is my 72 birthday.
@hpagalla
@hpagalla 5 месяцев назад
@@MLBPublishing2023 thank you, it helps me to understand that I won't trust any flesh, I only trust God.
@AlbertJLouie
@AlbertJLouie 5 месяцев назад
IS JESUS AND SATAN BROTHERS? In sharp contrast to your Mormon theology, the Biblical witness is clear and convincing: Jesus is the ETERNAL CREATOR GOD (John 1; Colossians 1; Hebrews 1; Revelation 1). Paul explicitly taught that Jesus is the CREATOR of all, including the angelic realm to which Satan belongs (Colossians 1:15-16; cf. John 1:3). Jesus is thus Satan's Creator, not HIS spirit brother. [Jesus] is the image of the invisible God, the FIRSTBORN over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through HIM and for HIM. Colossians 1:15-16 (NKJV)
@lindamartinez7006
@lindamartinez7006 5 месяцев назад
Saddest explanation I ever heard .
@AlbertJLouie
@AlbertJLouie 5 месяцев назад
@@lindamartinez7006 Of course you're gonna say that, your a Mormon, unable to see the Biblical witness because you have spend a lifetime being brainwashed that rob you of you ability question the Mormon church.
@ericwest6056
@ericwest6056 5 месяцев назад
Your so close, Yet so far away. Jesus is all the Bible says he is and more. Yet for the record. He has a Father in Heaven, he is NOT the Father of him shelf. Luke 24 touch me not, for I have not been to my Father who is in Heaven. Jesus Christ had been resurrected for 3 days and he had still not been to return to his Father who was in Heaven. I have pointed this to over hundreds, Who have never understood this simple truth. Today thou shalt be with me in Paradise, Yes he was , yet 3 days to later Jesus not in Heaven yet or returned to his Father who is in Heaven.
@AlbertJLouie
@AlbertJLouie 5 месяцев назад
@@ericwest6056 Yes, Luke does say that, but, you're missing one thing, TRINITY. Ad God the Son 2nd person of the Trinity He can day who touch me....because He is God Manifested in the flesh, but also God at the same time.
@AlbertJLouie
@AlbertJLouie 5 месяцев назад
@@lindamartinez7006 Hey, if I remembered the last time we talked, you got the wrong information regarding the "Council of Nicaea." So let me show the actual historic information. PART I Constantine the Great. Constantine was a Roman Emperor from 306-337AD. Many Roman emperors that came before him were openly hostile to the Gospel, killing and persecuting Christians. Emperors Nero, Domitian, Marcus Aurelius (of Gladiator movie fame), Diocletian and others succeeded one another with bloody persecutions of Christians. Bit Constantine issued the EDICT OF MILAN" in 313AD, granting religious tolerance to all views. Constantine became sole Emperor of Rome through victories in a series of military campaigns against other rivals. During these campaigns he converted to Christianity from paganism. There is much debate whether his "conversation" was sincere, or whether he did so for political gain. PART II "The Council of Nicaea." In 325AD Constantine convened the "Council of Nicaea" the first Empire-wide meeting of church leaders to discuss various doctrinal controversies. Today some ask if the Books of the Bible were changed or corrupted, or even selected (in some back-room conspiracy) for inclusion in the Bible at this council. In fact, the main debate at Nicaea was the theology of the relationship between Jesus and God. One camp (led by Arius) held that Jesus the Son and God the Father were of different essences, and the other camp (led by Athanasius) held that they were of the same essence. Therefore we know that theological interpretations were staked out and the summary "Nicene Creed" was authored at this council convened by Constantine. PART III "CORRUPTION OR CONSPIRACY?" But were Books of the Bible changed and/or selected at this council? As we saw in "Article on Textual Criticism of the Bible," There are many manuscripts surviving today that were copied up to two hundred years before the time Constantine (and the Council of Nicaea). If this council (or Constantine) changed the documents of the New Testament then the manuscripts that were copied before the Council of Nicaea would be different than those that come after. But the copies show no such change. The timeline shows that manuscripts for Bibles today predate Constantine and the council of Nicaea by up to two hundred years. If Constantine and/or the council of Nicaea changed the manuscripts we would see the changes. But were the 'wrong' gospels selected into the Bible at Nicaea? (Perhaps by Constantine to bolster his side?) We also know that was not so because both sides (Arius and Athanasius) use the same gospels and Epistles (the ones that are in The Bible now) to argue their case. Arius and Athanasius did not disagree on what scriptural documents stated, nor did they disagree on which documents should be "in" the Bible. They disagreed, with heated debate, on the interpretation of the Scriptures--the same books of the Bible we have today. We know this because an account of the debates and intrigues of the council of Nicaea and Constantine's role in it is preserved for us in the reporting of "EUSEBIUS" who was one of the delegates to this council. The writings of Athanasius are also preserved. Ther you are Linda actual historic evidence of what happened at the "Council of Nicaea." Not from some Mormon "back-room conspiracy theories."
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