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My Tsukihime Remake Experience... for now 

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THE REMAKE IS REAL AND... We're only getting the near side routes for now.
But with an english patch completed, and an official western release coming next year, I think it's high time I revisit my favourite of Nasu's works.
So if you're interested in watching some 29 year old from the Canadian Maritimes talk about it, grab a hot drink, and stick around.
...and yes I did upload this on December 31st to manifest Other Side of Red Garden sooner
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@kugrz9408
@kugrz9408 7 месяцев назад
when you talked about arc luminary form, and how no one noticed it, it was because everyone in the area was simply non-existent. what i mean is that that ciel, shiki and arc were the only one who were there, because she used her marble phantasm, it was more of them being in a parallel world or a parallel japan. when the fight stopped and arc fucks off, they were in the existent world again (out of arc marble phantasm).
@kugrz9408
@kugrz9408 7 месяцев назад
Oh yeah btw Dr.Arach is actual connected to one of the 27 DAA (Arach) not too much known about besides that but yes we def will get a better explanation on Dr.Arach in Red Garden. Maybe even her as a foe, but thats just my guess on her in red garden
@p3bblez
@p3bblez 7 месяцев назад
"why didn't anyone notice arcueid's luminary form?" everyone who didnt escape her marble phantasm was temporarily "erased", you cant have any witnesses if they just.. dont exist anymore
@GeorgeLopezM
@GeorgeLopezM 7 месяцев назад
ahhh, that's interesting and makes more sense
@24hr-Gaming
@24hr-Gaming 7 месяцев назад
For Nero he wasn't cut because he wasn't cool. It's the opposite. Nasu feels like he's too strong to be a random mid-boss so probably he'll be a major antagonist in Red Garden.
@abrahammesrajecorrea2349
@abrahammesrajecorrea2349 7 месяцев назад
I mean... it's not like the character is forgotten when you take into consideration FGO
@ViApp0
@ViApp0 4 месяца назад
Define major. Even theoretically Nero can only appear in Satsuki and Arcued True routes, he has nothing to do with the rest. And if he were to appear in Satsuki's, just as plus+disk suggested, he'd just die there anyway with Shiki, Satsuki, Arc and Ciel (and potentially Vlov) all going after him and Roa. Maybe that death wouldn't be as pathetic as in the original but still.
@jaydenlobbe7911
@jaydenlobbe7911 7 месяцев назад
I'm not as frustrated by Arach's inclusion as you are, her role in Ciel's Route is clearly there to foreshadow whatever her deal is in the Far Side Routes, and I'm ok with not having answers until then I actually started with Fate/Stay Night so I'm more familiar with how it handles it's Routes, and Arach's inclusion in Ciel's Route is reminiscent of how F/SN foreshadows Heavens Feel in it's first two Routes, actually since you brought up Arach, Goto, and Mio I'm surprised you didn't say anything about the Hospital, Shiki's little excursion to the Attic on the first night, the scene where Mio stops him from entering the Alleyway, and the Panther
@federicofilippini6780
@federicofilippini6780 7 месяцев назад
Actually it’s not a fail of translation, but of the fact ciel has a new condition to herself, if u noticed ciel is way more powerfull than before, that’s cause in remake ciel is what is called a mutant, mutants individuals with abnormal quantities of magical energy and capacity, which is speculated actually accelerated ciel’s physical growth so when she was 12 when the town attack happened she looked more like Noel’s age, also the fact ciel implies that her body as much that it didn’t change much did change when roa took over her body and fast forwarding her body’s development than when roa got yeeted from ciel, when the church started to do experiments and whole revival stick happened, ciel preaty much implies her aging is indeed still there but it’s slowed to almost non existent aka yes ciel was 12 when roa took her over and forced her to murder her friends and family and the entire town she lived in. Also with the fact of feeling incomplete it’s natural red garden it’s the piece that completes tsukihime remake, nasu has always done the i leave clues in one route than in the next it gets answered, but it didn’t feel like a problem cause the next route was always there that’s probably why u feel that this is less complete cause it is intentionally so, also red garden is gonna be enourmous probably considering nasu has to write 4 routes, Akiha, hisui, kohaku and now the new one which is sacchin, so no shit its gonna take a decent bit but considering the fact blue glass moon already has a fuck ton of assets done already I feel it’s gonna take way less time for red garden to come out
@sobbuh3378
@sobbuh3378 7 месяцев назад
gonna take even longer considering nasu don’t care about shit but fgo
@federicofilippini6780
@federicofilippini6780 7 месяцев назад
@@sobbuh3378 except that is just plain wrong considering he took time off fgo to finish tsukihime and than write lb6 story so yeh he wasn’t supervising as he usually does, and before u go oh but he announcer tsukihime remake 2008 but delayed it cause of fgo, no just no, nasu himself said: we announced it back than cause we thought after mahoyo(2012) we would do it, fgo presented us with opportunity after mahoyo to accumulate more resources to make the remake better than we initially intended so we put tsukihime on hold till we felt ready to do it, which was at the start of 2019
@osrodd2154
@osrodd2154 7 месяцев назад
9:18 I wouldn't call the torture scene you posted symptoms of inverting, the people noel was lashing out against there where all vampires. Dead apostles have never been shown to feel bloodlust towards other vampires. What happened there was a combination of hysteria from the fear of being infected and knowing whatever life she had built and had planned for her future was now ruined alongside her deep hatred for vampires for having taking the life she cherished from her. Edit: Also Noel didn't "choose" to be a vampire. The first serum was forced onto her. I don't see how being turned by vlov's bite or being a victim of arach's serum changes anything with the character. In both cases the original cause for her vampirism, like most things that have occured in her life, is completely out of her control If anything Noel committing atrocities under the pretense of inverting while still completely human adds more to her, she is petty, short sighted, prone to lashing out irrationally and incapable of moving on from the past and this ultimately lead to her becoming an executor, something she is extremely unsuitable for in a half-assed attempt at revenge against roa. Which she ultimately throws away because in the end her reasons for hunting roa have nothing to do with stopping his trail of death but is an effort to find something to lash out against for having her perfect life so horribly destroyed. This is why she has no problem moving her hatred onto ciel when she becomes a dead apostle, all she wants is an object of hatred which could be either Roa, Ciel or completely unrelated dead apostles as seen in the torture scenes. Noel's nonsensical actions are simply her method for coping after being traumatised so deeply it isn't just meaningless revenge. It's a pathetic attempt at lashing out at the world for giving her such a poor hand of cards. Anyways I'm excited for red garden too and hope it's released sooner than 2026 at least.
@straymerodach4713
@straymerodach4713 7 месяцев назад
its not a translation failing... for some reason, Ciel was a very old looking 12 year old while Noel was a very young looking 14 year old. the only thing that can "save it" is that Roa body-morphed Ciel when to took over completely like he did SHIKI in that scene where he finally took over also, if you didnt look into fan theories... we suspect Nero is in that dark alleyway Shiki is magically attracted to and gets stopped from entering by Mio on day 2. Right after the pointless choice that leads to the same outcome. Expectations are that Red Garden will add a actual divergence point there and we can enter the alley and encounter Nero fighting Arc
@r.k845
@r.k845 7 месяцев назад
>a character is rude therefore bad writing A really immature take honestly, let characters have flaws. Shiki shouldn’t be generic Mr nice guy because real people aren’t. Arcuied is a dangerous vampire that he has an extremely complicated relationship with, him being rude to her when she shows up at his house uninvited is expected and natural. Ridiculous criticism.
@HalgoniaKen
@HalgoniaKen 7 месяцев назад
Notice how I never called it "bad writing" Also notice how I specifically called out to what the writing also calls out to. That the reason for his outburst was his relationship with Akiha. It didn't matter that it was Arcueid or that she's a world ending vampire. It mattered that someone showed up without Shiki knowing when he himself never warned them. Also notice it wasn't the only character flaw I pointed out for Shiki. Characters are allowed to have flaws, but when that flaw is them being lecherous, aggressive, and dismissive as the *main character* for forty hours of reading time? It's not palatable, that's the point. Not that it's bad writing. But that I personally wasn't a fan of it. Watch the video again. It ain't a review.
@r.k845
@r.k845 7 месяцев назад
@@HalgoniaKen Fair enough
@aidank8996
@aidank8996 7 месяцев назад
​@HalgoniaKen Jumping in here but while I wouldn’t deny that Shiki is a prick, I also wouldn’t call his anger torwards Arcueid "Inexplicable". In the case of her showing up at his house while yes he didn't tell her to not do that...but I don't recall him telling her where he lived. And buddy completely putting the vampire stuff aside if a girl you knew for a week showed up at your house uninvited that would at least warrant a "what the fuck?!" Also fairly certain Shiki mainly wanted Akiha and his family to be as far away from this vampire business as possible so Arcueid bringing it to his front doorstep isn't a welcome thing. (well he is also scared of Akihas wrath but that's kinda a given) While it likely isn't your intent it does feel like you are letting Arcueid off easy. She does have a serious lack of common sense what with sealing her wounds with packing tape and breaking into Shikis room in the middle of the night and staring at his face(Which yeah also warrants a what the fuck)
@seraph_dalgon_9216
@seraph_dalgon_9216 7 месяцев назад
@@aidank8996 That and being a prick are kinda in his favor since Arcueid likes Shiki's verbal abuse.
@putsagatinmeltyblood7679
@putsagatinmeltyblood7679 7 месяцев назад
@@seraph_dalgon_9216 The whole point of their attitude is that Arc is special and he's able to be the most natural around her and vice versa. The only one he's anywhere like that with besides her is Arihiko. It shows they're on the same wavelength. It's not like they aren't as equally sweet and candid with each other despite the Tsun and bickering. Shiki being horny is also normal. He's always been like that(And biologically it makes sense for the Nanaya) so it'd be weird if he wasn't. It's not like they overplay it.
@Carbon_Soda
@Carbon_Soda 7 месяцев назад
God I _wish_ we'd get Red Garden by 2025... Btw, have you read Mahoyo? would love to see your experience with it
@virgilthemob1242
@virgilthemob1242 7 месяцев назад
If you were curious about that blank scene after Arcueid transforms into her Luminary form, you're supposed to pick every pro-Arc choice in Ciel's route, like telling her you like her, not leaving the hotel etc. But I think you can look it up on RU-vid too.
@GPMS
@GPMS 7 месяцев назад
2:10 You probably already know by now but for that scene you need max Arcueid points. The scene is called "Love Letter" 2:07 Don't remember the right one, but for the left one I believe you need to talk to Satsuki beforehand so that she invites you to her part-time job (You can't go though) 7:43 There are several theories that Mio is actually the black panther that is trying to help Shiki throughout Arcueid's route. She seems to have some kind of connection to the Nanaya family and a friend of Shiki since childhood. 10:23 As for Arach, there are theories she is Agape, a spider dead apostle ancestor 11:53 To be fair they are fighting in an alternate dimension created by Arcueid so it can't affect the outside About Shiki treatment of Arcueid, it's pretty clear that he is a tsundere towards her. To analyze it deeper, he greatly admires her as seen in the hotel scene, but his Nanaya instincts and fear that they can't be together due to the differences in species/life span makes him reject her.
@syfx1485
@syfx1485 6 месяцев назад
For the right (middle) one in 2:07, I believe you just need to choose to not meet Ciel during lunch break that day before meeting her afterschool.
@ViApp0
@ViApp0 4 месяца назад
If you want to tie Arach to one of the new DAAs, then why not Lululily A. Paranodahlia? DA Noel has a move named after her and Roa attributes his revival to a gift from her (and we know that Arach is involved with both of them). Meanwhile the only thing Agape theory has is that they're called an idiot which fits Arach too.
@maods5056
@maods5056 7 месяцев назад
We are so back!
@Types23123
@Types23123 7 месяцев назад
It feels like fate spinoff? yes Arcueid is one of the strongest character i nasuverse. + Ciel is the burial agency executor. One of the strongest executor in the nasu world. Nasu need to show one of the most powerful characters in nasuverse.
@BLADEARTSIV
@BLADEARTSIV 7 месяцев назад
Tsukihime remake has 92 tracks actually not 50 😭 (96 if you include the ops and eds)
@HalgoniaKen
@HalgoniaKen 7 месяцев назад
0.0 Woah
@WinspearUltima
@WinspearUltima 7 месяцев назад
Glad to see you back dude, before you came back I was busy playing the OG and it was fantastic, I’m more into fate stay night after experiencing this VN hopefully I will play this remake when it finally comes out.
@deadbIue
@deadbIue 24 дня назад
i recently had the pleasure of finishing mahoyo and tsuki re back to back, arc's route end still twinges at my heart strings whenever i think of it... what a woman
@_grofA
@_grofA 7 месяцев назад
I absolutely LOVE the original Tsukihime and I loved the remake just as much. I am so happy that Nasu let me see my wife again but I agree that she needs a happy ending asap. This current state is unacceptable.
@baziworld
@baziworld 5 месяцев назад
Liked both OG and remake but remake of tsukihime just was some thing that turned e to loyal nasuverse fan boy,so obviously i give it a high regard and hope for part to give us nasu best
@MrInuhanyou123
@MrInuhanyou123 7 месяцев назад
I gotta ask, did halgonia read the tsukihime manga ever? I bet hed love that considering his complaints 😂
@user-ml2km7un9l
@user-ml2km7un9l 7 месяцев назад
Cant wait to Dr Arach (probably 27DAA?) VS Ciel in far side remake, If Ciel killed her she got 5 ancestors idea bloods lol
@alexdukec.7551
@alexdukec.7551 7 месяцев назад
Are you finally back? Are we getting more Type Moon videos finally?
@BLADEARTSIV
@BLADEARTSIV 7 месяцев назад
Omg you're back we're so back!
@emiyavalentine5969
@emiyavalentine5969 3 месяца назад
4:13 a minor nitpick i have ( lol ) Thats just roa not SHIKI the thing with SHIKI is he is just a body that roa the dead apostle controlles Excpect in OG ciel route where roa didnt take full control of SHIKI's body and he was able to say some lines to his bro there and there
@jaydenlobbe7911
@jaydenlobbe7911 7 месяцев назад
0:47 That's not Kohaku
@HalgoniaKen
@HalgoniaKen 7 месяцев назад
That's because Kohaku isn't best girl 😊
@jaydenlobbe7911
@jaydenlobbe7911 7 месяцев назад
@@HalgoniaKen That’s where you’re wrong
@HalgoniaKen
@HalgoniaKen 7 месяцев назад
My video, my rules 😊
@jaydenlobbe7911
@jaydenlobbe7911 7 месяцев назад
@@HalgoniaKen Ah, but consider the following: Crazy drug girl
@Vedhon
@Vedhon 3 месяца назад
what do you mean the unfortunetly returning assault scene it's important to Shiki's characterization and the hyper sexuality of the nanaya clan
@HalgoniaKen
@HalgoniaKen 3 месяца назад
There is genuinely not a single Not even so much as a percentile of a chance, where I will be happy that any visual scene involving SA occurs. It's just gross and unnecessary, especially when the remake omits the sex scene in Ciel's route opting instead to not only explain exactly what you stated *without* showing something genuinely gross and unnecessary, and makes a fun callback to the original release in the process. Sorry, not sorry, it didn't need to be brought back.
@Vedhon
@Vedhon 3 месяца назад
@@HalgoniaKen how can you explain stuff that are heavily interconnected with sex without it, plus it already came back censored. If you are mad about it I genuinely think you do not understand. Shiki by all intents and purposes is characterized as an animal, he is someone that struggles with the fact he constantly wants to kill and even admits to constantly fantasize about how he can kill Arcueid, that is also heavily interconnected with his sexual drive, like my brother in christ he literally came in his pants from it and says it's better than masturbation.
@gilgamesh_max
@gilgamesh_max 3 месяца назад
Well first of all, you have to know that in the original Tsukihime, the news also cover the mysterius disaparence of the people in the hotel, the other about Shik's personality, is his trait, if you change the way he was from the OG Tsukihime to a new one, is not gonna like to the old fans from over 20 years. Now the Nrvnqsr, the thing is yeah I also don't like, BUUUUT the thing is now to make a balance between the Fate enemies and the Tsukihime enemies, you have to put in perspective, Nrvnqsr is like in a real other league, he was to powerfull the same Nasu said he had to put him out because of that, and wanted to put something like Vlov this time, you have a Nrvnqsr one of the TOP 10 DAA with over a 1000 years of life, and Vlov, who have like 20 years, something like a newborn in the DAA eyes, that's why he have to change that. THe thing I think with Arach you are not adressing is well, she know about the DA, she knows about the Idea Blood of the DAA and replicate one, so she must be one who overcome the sun, or one associated with a DAA. The Noel thing, she has sintomps and all, but She didn't have the potential to become a DA, she would become a Dead, or a Ghoul, but no more, she had the symptoms, but no the potential like SAtsuki to be one of Rank VII or VIII, but with Arach Idea Replica Noel overcome that and came a full DA so thats the thing with her.
@markandrew287
@markandrew287 7 месяцев назад
Regarding the whole 'situation remains under wraps despite shit blowing up half the city' I feel as though it's not inherently a flaw of Nasu but rather anime's obsession with keeping super powered shit under wraps. Like, look at Dragon Ball. The most universe breaking world ending fights happen with destruction everywhere yet NO ONE ever seems to notice the two glowing fighters duking it out IN THE OPEN SKY. Fate also has gigantic sword beams yet for some reason, nobody is around to witness Saber pulling an Excalibur. Now, granted, the Nasuverse does have some weird reality bending shit to suspend your disbelief, but I can only suspend it for so long when you think about how LOUD and visible some of these fights should realistically be. I'm kinda yearning for the day for an anime work that deconstructs this trope. Like, the cast tries to keep the super powers under wraps only for the public to catch on EXTREMELY quickly because there's 0 way no one WOULDN'T notice the extremely destructive fights happening in plain sight.
@HalgoniaKen
@HalgoniaKen 7 месяцев назад
The funny part is that Mahoyo is actually very explicitly clear on the matter and then none of Nasu's works touch on it again (afaik anyway)
@kcold3277
@kcold3277 5 месяцев назад
​@@HalgoniaKen bounded fields are basically used in every work. Fate mentions them and basically any credible organization or magus uses them. The only times I could really think they weren't being used were Mayne the bigger Fate fights, but that was basically impossible to keep under wraps, so that was covered up anyway. And just like Fate, Maguses usually murder people that happen to see it anyway. Mahoyo just exposits something we already see in other works. Even Kara no Kyoukai used Bounded fields or other pieces of magecraft to conceal itself (KnK 5 iirc).
@Nikita_Akashya
@Nikita_Akashya 7 месяцев назад
I have never really heard of Tsukihime before this remake was announced. And I am thinking of getting it. But like, way later when I got the new switch or something. Or rather when it goes on sale, because I'm poor. But I saw something about Shikis ability and his mystic eyes of death. Which I just think is super cool. I just hope I have a good time with this game and can still sleep after playing it. I really like the opening. But first I will get Mahoyo when it is on sale. I was avoiding the nasuverse all these years but now I'm getting into it. I feel sorry for my wallet. And my free time. But damn, this game looks good.
@MrInuhanyou123
@MrInuhanyou123 7 месяцев назад
We are so back! "With the best girl and ciel" bruh this dude is so me 😂 no disrespect to ciel or her fans mind you!
@uchenna8885
@uchenna8885 4 месяца назад
how censored was it
@cardiacarrester6090
@cardiacarrester6090 3 месяца назад
Truth be told I haven’t play both tsukihime yet(just read a quick summary) so I don’t understand anything
@vitorhenriquefarias8916
@vitorhenriquefarias8916 6 месяцев назад
I wanted to let you know that it would be great if you could cover Kagetsu Tohya, which is like the Fate/Hollow Ataraxia for Tsukihime. It's a sequel to Tsukihime from 2001 and has a slightly more slice-of-life oriented story with the inclusion of Len. It would also be cool if you could cover the Melty Blood games, but if you don't have time to play them, you could just look up a story summary.
@HalgoniaKen
@HalgoniaKen 6 месяцев назад
I mean Kagetsu Tohya came first so wouldn't Fate/Hollow Ataraxia be the Kagetsu Tohya of Fate? 🤔 And I'm sorry but I definitely won't be covering those. I don't plan on reading Kagetsu Tohya anytime soon and I've played Melty Blood Type Lumina but Fighting Games have never been my thing, so I have no interest in making a video about it.
@Vedhon
@Vedhon 3 месяца назад
@@HalgoniaKen You are missing SO MUCH lore without melty and kagetsu tohya it's not even funny. Melty blood is pretty much a fighting game with a visual novel included in it. And Kagetsu Tohya has stuff like Red Demon God(Shiki's biological dad is peak) and another additional stories
@sadge_png
@sadge_png Месяц назад
Okay but isn't shiki only Rude towards Arc? like he is never rude for no reason towards Ciel, I always thought the reason Shiki is rude towards arc because nanaya inside him is constantly irritating him while he is with her edit: also i feel like u are mistaken about noel, Noel is supposed to be a normal person who is mediocre at best, noel has always been more violent towards vampires even before being bitten by vlov, Noel is a terrible mediocre person if anything I think Arach being the person that turns Noel into a Dead Apostle only adds to Noels tragedy.
@thewanderingwriter4448
@thewanderingwriter4448 7 месяцев назад
It’s ironic that this setting of the Remake which retcons itself into separating from the world of Fate, it still ends up being more like Fate rather than Tsukihime. One of things I’m very much afraid for is if there’ll be frustratingly lingering questions that’ll be left to answer in the Tsukihime sequel, which will perhaps take even longer to come out. I assume they cut out Nero because he was too cool to be killed like that so quickly, so hopefully he’ll show up on Red Garden or, worse, Tsukihime 2. Which means more waiting 😩 I’m really hoping that it is a case of mistranslation but from the wiki, it’s estimated that Ciel is 18 in the events of Tsukihime (not even just “18”, it’s “estimated to be 18”). She was turned when she was 12 and after her revival she worked in the Church for 6 years, implying that she did grow up so that she can be within the same age range as Shiki. That’s my only assumption and theory as to why they would make this change but either way, I don’t like this implication since it contradicts the World keeping Ciel “unchanging” if she’s allowed to age?? I mean yeah I guess Arcueid too (seeing how there’s Child Arc) but that’s a different thing since she was born a vampire, and Ciel’s condition is totally something else. Anyway, glad to see you getting around to the Remake. I’ve just started getting into Tsukihime OG and you are one of the people who helped introduced me to this series. Can’t wait to see how Red Garden turns out! 😄
@Types23123
@Types23123 7 месяцев назад
"I assume they cut out Nero because he was too cool to be killed like that so quickly." But One of the most cool 7th DAA Einnashe killed by Ciel... SAD
@justasoulsfan9805
@justasoulsfan9805 7 месяцев назад
*I’m really hoping that it is a case of mistranslation but from the wiki, it’s estimated that Ciel is 18 in the events of Tsukihime (not even just “18”, it’s “estimated to be 18”). She was turned when she was 12 and after her revival she worked in the Church for 6 years, implying that she did grow up so that she can be within the same age range as Shiki. That’s my only assumption and theory as to why they would make this change but either way, I don’t like this implication since it contradicts the World keeping Ciel “unchanging” if she’s allowed to age?? I mean yeah I guess Arcueid too (seeing how there’s Child Arc) but that’s a different thing since she was born a vampire, and Ciel’s condition is totally something else.* This is simply Nasu being a pretentious hack as always. He loves to overcomplicate things in the futile attempt to seem complex, but actually isn't. Ciel/Elesia in OG was 16 when Roa took over and killed the entire town until Arcueid stopped her. Pretty simple and makes sense. OG Ciel essentially was a 25 year old, traumatized woman in the body of a 16 year old girl (and could pass as a teenager). Remake Ciel is a 12 year old loli that (assumingly) got magically aged up to look like 18(?) by Roa and is stuck with that body so the relationship with her and Shiki doesn't look weird. Somehow Nasu managed to make Ciel's lore weirder than Ilya's and Artoria's. Not only that but the entire french incident in Remake doesn't make any sense. Roa is an outsider in the vampire society. Nrvnqsr literally said so in the OG VN. And even a bad end in Remake suggests that Roa wasn't liked in Remake canon either. And most DA were scared of Arcueid. So there's no reason that many Dead Apostles were present in Ciel's/Noel's town. Roa's incarnation cycle still doesn't add up mathematically (it didn't work in OG either). Then the entire Dr. Arach thing abd how/why she's allowed being in Akiha's mansion. Not the mention the awful True Ending of Ciel's route. And more inconsistencies. All these little things add up so hard in the end that they make me facepalm consistently when reading them. Tbh I'm convinced that (except the visuals, music and how Vlov was handled in both routes compared to Nrvnqsr in OG) Remake is barely superior to OG Near Side. Arc's route in Remake might be a little bit better (however it doesn't come close to the manga, which to this day is the best version of Arcueid's route), but the ''new'' Ciel route was just awful and legit killed my interest in the Remake series.
@kcold3277
@kcold3277 5 месяцев назад
​​​​@@justasoulsfan9805 1. The Incarnation number still being there is implied canon and probably on purpose now. 2. The Remake and Type Lumina imply that while Roa isn't claimed to be a DAA, he is an acquaintance to some of them and doesn't harbor a harsh relationship to them. Vlov and the spider DAA are associates of his, the former being someone that he fucked over (which is why Vlov sought revenge) and the latter being mentioned in Type Lumina. Both Vlov and Arach seem to be aware of the Altar and it was guarded by the Tohno's and we see Roa trying to perform a ritual there. Theere are a fuckton of implications that instinctually speaking, that altar is extremely important to the DAA's, Roa, and the Tohnos. Even Kouma cited that something sinister (Red Garden and Altar) is going on in Souya. It's very heavily implied that whatever that Altar was originally for is a citywide danger. The French Incident is described as being "The World Killing Poison," so it's theorized to be a DAA ritual meant to revive the Dark Six, the original DAAs and the supposed strongest under the Crimson Moon itself. Roa's ambition might be a bit different from that though, since he sought proof of eternity (the Cosmic egg), so he probably had his own agenda in helping with that incident. We already know of a "world end" level event because Arcueid took the planet's texture, meaning that whatever the DAAs did there was a joint effort that would've been a planet wide catastrophe or a change of the world-order itself. That's not exactly inconsistent. Most DAAs seek to revive the Dark Six and it's also established that DAAs have different dynamics with one another in optional Arc Route dialogue (where she explains the Ancestors). Some fuck with each other and some don't. Some fuck with Roa and some don't. Some are willing to work with Roa if it achieves another goal. He's not considered to be the 28th DAA, but that in of itself does NOT mean that none of them are willing to cooperate, as I've said before. 3. And as for why Arach is allowed in the mansion, she's clearly seen as being useful to the Tohnos and was implied to be around when Shiki was in the Hospital (depending on if his monolouge was talking about her or the Kagetsu doctor). She's also stated to be an architect, which could imply that she was the original creator of the Altar, something Akiha implies to be an actual Tohno Asset when she calls it her garden in Type Lumina. Alot of your points just sound like you either missed optional scenes, lack context, or just missed in general. Akiha herself finds Arach's personality to be grating, but she's clearly a crucial Tohno Asset, otherwise she would have gotten kicked out like every other Tohno.
@justasoulsfan9805
@justasoulsfan9805 5 месяцев назад
​​​@@kcold3277And all I read when I look at your comment is basically "new lore and rewrites duh".... Which is the reason why I despise Remake so much. Most of this new lore is dumb as f*** and isn't even consistent with itself. Not to mention the need to blow every minor event in the lore into such an epic battle. It's just ridiculous. Nasu had a (mostly) well working lore with the original Tsukihime and Melty Blood at hand. And now he butchers it with chuuni garbage that feels like it was ripped from a modern isekai light novel. All the examples you brought up already show that Remake Far Side won't be like OG Far Side at all. Great Idea! Muddle the best three routes of OG Tsuki with nonsense like this and write even more bs or whatever he plans to do with Satsuki's Route. Meanwhile Near Side is still as flawed as ever but bloated and with cringe try hard attempts at comedy
@kcold3277
@kcold3277 5 месяцев назад
@@justasoulsfan9805 your entire comment boils down to "ITS NOT LIKE THE OG ANYMORE!!!" It's a Remake, Nasu made it obvious that he was going to change stuff around and add other things to the story. And "epic battle?" I'm confused on this. The only "epic battles" that were added is the Ciel vs Noel fight and the Arc True End fight. Anf I'm also confused by your "It's inconsistent with itself" takes. No, it isn't. In fact, Nasu's Remake has drawn from KT, Type Lumina, The other Melty Blood entries, etc. "Still the same flaws as ever" The prose is WAAAY BETTER than it was in OG, what're you on about? Your problems/"flaws"with the Remake just sound like misunderstandings, misconceptions, and unrest because the Remake changed the OG, not like actual flaws. And comedy is subjective. There were multiple occasions where the Remake made me laugh out loud. That's more of a you problem.
@Dekarowski25
@Dekarowski25 5 месяцев назад
As someone completely new to the novels (i only watched the anime of Garden of Sinners and the new Fate ones ) should i buy this somewhere and then install english patch?
@prasant6533
@prasant6533 5 месяцев назад
The official english patch for Tsukihime remake will come out on steam and PS4 on either June or July this year which will include the first 2 routes of the game. The original Tsukihime visual novel is really old and you can't find it anywhere to buy, BUT, there's a website that has the complete novel in English so check that out before reading the remake one.
@TheIhoodz
@TheIhoodz 7 месяцев назад
Witch on the Holy Night the next vid?
@mojito8948
@mojito8948 7 месяцев назад
Nope it's Umineko
@TheIhoodz
@TheIhoodz 7 месяцев назад
@@mojito8948 Higurashi or type-moon works after? I'd highly recommend When They Cry.
@briannguyen6248
@briannguyen6248 3 месяца назад
So Tsukihime IS finished just not fully translated. Piece of Blue Glass Moon is just part 1 😢and we need 2 more parts. They’re written just not remade yet?
@HalgoniaKen
@HalgoniaKen 3 месяца назад
No. The original release of Tsukihime (December 2000) was translated by fans decades ago (and can be found with enough googling) in full. Piece of Blue Glass Moon (What this video is about) remakes the "near side" routes. The "far side" routes are being remade for The Other Side of Red Garden which we currently know nothing about the state of. There's not even so much as a year for tentative release and we have heard nothing about it since Piece of Blue Glass Moon came out in Japan in August 2021 and the trailer for it was only discovered after you complete every ending. Hope that clears it up.
@haveagoodday7021
@haveagoodday7021 7 месяцев назад
I honestly really find Arache the worst addition imo. No reason to really exist until Far Side comes out, also I really don't like her design. I also don't like Vlov, for mainly the fact that Nero was significantly cooler. Now this is kinda nostalgia, or maybe a subconscious bias against fate character design, but so many of these designs just feel kinda like parodies of the og tsukihime cast. Also I agree on Rociel's design. Actual worst design in the game from just a general design perspective, but also y'know, that its a 12 year old. Overall, I like the presentation and execution of the remake, but some things didn't need fixing or changing.
@theclub3498
@theclub3498 7 месяцев назад
I will expect controversy, but OG > Remake
@justasoulsfan9805
@justasoulsfan9805 7 месяцев назад
Well, it's no shame to have taste ^^ I liked OG (and especially the manga adaptation), actually the old canon in general, way more than the Remake. Remake kind of killed the franchise for me.
@whateverwhatever4476
@whateverwhatever4476 7 месяцев назад
@@justasoulsfan9805really? I liked it just as much as the OG
@whateverwhatever4476
@whateverwhatever4476 7 месяцев назад
really? I liked it just as much as the OG
@insertname8700
@insertname8700 6 месяцев назад
The remake doesn’t have Vlov, so this statement is automatically false :v
@theclub3498
@theclub3498 6 месяцев назад
@@insertname8700 ? The remake does have Vlov. Do you mean it doesn't have Nero?
@adam-dn3hi
@adam-dn3hi 7 месяцев назад
16:12 ok you seem to be confused ciel rn has an 18 year old body lemme explain roa took over when she was 12 yes and she died at 12 7 years later she revived(still 12 cause she was dead) and than began her life again as a member of the church and a year later(now 13 because her body ages again) becoming a burial agency member than spent the next 6 years working as one making her 19 physically when tsukihime starts and 26 chronologically
@whateverwhatever4476
@whateverwhatever4476 7 месяцев назад
Ohhhhh, so that's how it works
@adam-dn3hi
@adam-dn3hi 7 месяцев назад
oh yeah for the arcueid happy ending your looking for its probably going to be a secret ending unlocked when finishing all of the routes like in the FSN VN
@adam-dn3hi
@adam-dn3hi 7 месяцев назад
12:48 hope your reading to clear the nero and vlov situation up you are misunderstanding the remake does aim for a bigger scale such as the updated 27 ancestors list so you seem to be assuming that nero was removed for not being "cool" or strong enough however its the opposit reason nero was TOO powerful to be the first villain lets go of the things you forget about from the og he can do take out tens of divine beasts(you can think of each one being physically the same as a servant in strength at minimum) and even a fucking dragon as in the mfs who canonically have country destroying breaths can make some sort of sealing soil that is as durable as an entire CONTINENT and can fuse all of the beasts in his body into one super powerful beast nero at any point in the original game could have simply said "you know what? fuck this country" and blow up japan he was literally too powerful to be just the first villain nero isnt in the remake out of respect he was hoed in the original in a scene that made like 60% sense 30% was just expecting me to belive nero isnt capble of thinking of strategy and 10% plot armor and nasu didnt want to see someone so powerful get hoed like that again
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