My Valve Index after 2000 hours of Usage 

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This man won't stop until he has used up valves entire stock of headsets

I lost count of the amount of times he said "valve did replace it though"

This is the first time I've heard someone say 'valve indexes'.

Thrill “I use a pulley system” Seeker

I can't wait for "I used my Valve Index for one decade"

This guy is gonna put valve out of business lmao

They've added a second cable clip with newer models so that the first one wouldn't break.

I hope Valve watches your videos and takes it into consideration for the their next headset. None of this should be an issue for a $1000 headset.

Quick Reminder: despite the problems remember that he spends A LOT more time on the index than most people probably will for a long time. So while some things like the first cable failure and some of the early issues are a good point to look at, not all the problems will likely happen unless you're putting in hours and hours almost every day every week and putting stress on these objects more than the normal Index user.

2022... “What Happened to my Valve Index After 3000 Hours”

Well, now I know why I've been waiting for my Index to become available for 6 months and counting… This dude is getting them all.

“I’m on my fourth index, my fifth controller, and my second base station.” I only have a quest. Not even quest 2, just quest. No PC, just quest

I'm treating mine really, really well, still works nicely.

Valve index: And I Took That Personally...

"what happened to my index after the heat death of the universe?"

ThrillSeeker: OMG my valve index keeps breaking!!! Also ThrillSeeker: 🤸🏼‍♂️ Lol

I hope more thought will be put headsets’ durability in the future It must be really disappointing when the headset breaks, especially if you can’t get the part replaced

Ive had mine for a few weeks and have been loving it

valve: we finally released a new wave of headsets Thrill: ill take your entire stock

I literally just searched up valve index videos and did not expect see a new upload from you about it and to be this early! :D

Personally, I have had my valve index for a year, used it for 4057 hours of VR, and only ever had to replace my headset cable once, and my left controller once

Nice! I've been waiting for this video since the first 1000 hours!

Really useful video. Also love the “Thrillseeker” at the end of the outro

Here's an idea for preserving the cable on the Index… There's a type of plastic tubing used for cable management of computer desks. This tubing has a repeating rib structure, similar to an accordion, that allows it to be more flexible. The tubing is also slit open on one side along its entire length, which allows you to insert cables from the side, rather than feeding them into the tube to be pulled all along the length. I think that putting your headset cable(s) inside this kind of tubing, and anchoring the tubing to the headset (and the pulley system if you have one) instead of the cable itself, would take a lot of stress off the cable. Ideally though, I think it would be be good if the cable itself had a spring shape for about a third of a meter, or one foot, right at the end where it plugs into the headset. The same kind of spring shape seen on the cords for corded telephones, and small radio transmitters to connect the microphone to the rest of the equipment. These spring shapes are better suited to being moved around a lot, and even twisted. Because they can be twisted with much less stress, I think they would be a great choice for relieving mechanical stress right where it's needed most: close to the plug, where it must match the rotation and position of the headset cable socket exactly. For the remaining length of the cable, it can be the normal, straight shape, which should be anchored by a clip if the cable is deemed strong enough on its own, or encased in plastic tubing if it's not strong enough on its own, with the tubing being anchored to the headset instead of the cable. I think this could be done without having to replace the entire current stock of cables, by using a simple, short cable extension on the end of the current cables, which has the desired spring shape. If someone wants to let Valve know about this, be my guest! I'd rather stop everyone suffering than horde the idea to myself in the vain hope of wringing money out of it somehow. They can have the idea for free. Maybe it will encourage them to keep improving their hardware when they don't have to constantly send out replacements.

Definitely gonna be interesting to see what you have you to show us! This is certainly a "true" representation of the durability, more than any torture test can ever be. Thanks for all the great content!

I've spent 3-6 hours in vr a week since November 2019 and my index is still going strong! Even if it had issues I still don't see headsets with refresh rates and fov on par with the index. Plus the big brother facebook quest ecosystem is creepy.

The sequel I wasn't expecting, but I'm glad happened. Also, finally got my quest an holy moly it's fun. I have always been an enthusiast in vr and now I'm spreading the fun with family and friends.

Dude I got Index like 2 days ago, you're scaring me man.. I'm not even violent with my headset and I take it slow.. It's good that I saw this video first hand, tells me what to not put stress on too much

I'm on my second HMD myself, and second left controller, but I'd still recommend the Index like yourself. One thing I recently picked up was the "chilldex" and I'm honestly quite surprised at how much more comfortable the headset is, with just the addition of small fans to pull the heat out. The other thing I've done that's improved the quality of life, is the installation of small, rubber o-rings between the speaker pod and where it mounts to the HMD. Keeps the speaker pods securely in place during Beatsaber sessions, and is super easy to do.

Boy is the VR community lucky to have a dude like thrill making content. The comparison to a car startup while also clarifying that it's not a confirmed 1 to 1 comparison, sums up how insightful the homie is while style having integrity. Props to the homie.

Valve: How many Indexes do you want to test? ThrillSeeker: Yes

480hours behind with my Valve Index and no breakage of cable here or any other problems. (Knocks on wood). I do use a pulley system but I am rather cautious with my equipment. However I did fling my right controller once across the room during a very intense Beat Saber session but it didn't break. Guess I dropped it "the right way". ;P I definitely power down my base stations. The high pitch noise (not very loud, but noticeable) they make is unbearable when you go to sleep and the house is quiet.

No. I refuse to have that high pitch buzzing in my ear 24/7 from the base stations being on when I'm not using them Like if I can imagine what tinnitus is like; this is it Edit: if he's not talking about putting them in sleep mode then I'm dumb. In sleep mode I don't hear them at all. But leaving them fully active 24/7 like they were out of the box is absolutely not happening

Alternative title how I broke my valve index in only 2000 hours...twice...or thrice...ok Mabye four times

I've came across my very first Valve Index issue and it's my left thumb stick drifting backwards if you press it to the rear at all it will make you walk in reverse, my solution was to just press forward very quickly after going backwards, I'm hoping it doesn't get much worse. I still love and enjoy the headset and bay stations with no issues there. Thanks for sharing and as always keep building👍

Interesting video, I have two locations with Valve Indexes (4 per location) and haven't had the issues you've listed, except a cable that just just went bad and replacing was a nightmare waiting for Valve to replace. Knocking on wood!!

Reminds me of the CV1 days lol, I went through 3 HMDS, all covered by Oculus. But this kit is far more expensive. Kinda glad I’ve yet to get an Index. For now, I’ll continue playing my PC VR games wirelessly with my Quest. 🤗

And this is why I use the included wrist straps even though the Index controllers strap onto your hand directly. I never want these to drop. Even if the plastic holding the triggers in wasn't as fragile as they are, the nature of capacitive sensors for the finger tracking means that aspect of the controller was always bound to be fragile.

ive had my index for only a little bit shy of 2 months and while it still works just as good now as it has on day one, watching these videos stress me out LMAO i wanna keep this thing working for as long as possible

I believe it is just Thrillseeker being a RU-vidr and also him brutally abusing it.

Huh hearing this makes me feel lucky. I've had mine since early december 2019 and it still works fine. The only problems I have with it are the cord constantly turning into a noose and the trigger on my right hand remote started making a squeaking sound about a month into owning it but it still works perfectly.

just got my oculus quest 2 i’ve been watching u for a while u inspired me to get my quest thanks

Had my index from the release and have also logged over 2000 hours and nothing have failed for me. You go extremely hard on your headset my dude :-p

Pro Tip: Use the touchpad. I've had my index controllers since December 2019 and have no issues with them since the transition to Touchpad movement. I also do not use pully system and just use Turn Signal for cable management. Been running my Pimax 8kx for 6 months with no issues thus far. Lastly, I have carpeting in my VR play space, helps for comfort since I play barefooted and prevents fatal controller drops.

Okay QOTW: With amount of times you must have contacted them, how would you rate Valve's Customer Support in regards to the Index?

thanks for the advice on the extra zip tie on the back! I've got about 50 hours on my Index right now and I've been trying to be as gentle as I can to it, I will certainly have to be more careful with my chair wheels going over the tether cable though, thank you for the heads up on how fragile it is. and I am so happy to hear that Valve hardware support has been a good experience for you, I would hope that spending 1000$ on a piece of hardware would grant me good customer support

I have a Reverb G2, which I'm sure you're aware doesn't have the best cable clip, so that cable management tip will really come in handy for me. Especially since I just recently installed my super high-tech pulley system consisting of one (1) tiny metal hook screwed into the ceiling that I haphazardly drape the cable over.

I would keep the base stations on, but their whirring is so damn anoying.

The Quest 2 has it's issues, but you gotta admit; *that thing durable*

Thanks, Thrill, this is a great video! I've been in VR since the days of the DK1 in 2014. My Rift CV1 (5 years old) still works great today (used for thousands of hours), and so far I never had any problems with my Rift S (one and a half years old). WIth the Index I had one failing controller three months in (replaced by Valve within a week). The Index headset still works, but I am starting to wonder when it will show the first symptoms... Same as you, I love the Index though and am still recommending it.

Same bro my base stations just stoped working but I got replacements so I’m happy.

Tip for Index users: Consider magnetic USB-C cables to charge the knuckles. Puts minimal stress on the connector that will snap into place. I have had the port break previously and was unable to recharge them.

Hey thrill! Any news on the Deca Gear team? I remember them saying you would receive a post production headset for review

thanks for saving me from buying a new vr setup. ive now decided to simply buy the knuckles, keep my vive and all included hardware as a backup, put my gearVR lenses into my vive, and wait for an index revision or perhaps an HTC competitor before buying anything else. thoroughly earned sub. ill be tuning in for more content.

im glad to hear Valve replaced the headset that the spring exploded on - mine just did this too so I am trying to RMA it currently, I hope it goes through they've been giving me trouble with the controllers.

I've been using my Rift S for a very long time (around its release) and it's been surprisingly good. I really haven't had any issues with mine, though I also don't use it daily. EDIT: yeah, i can confirm that the controllers oculus makes are very sturdy compared to some of the other controllers i've seen and used

I have no clue what he does to his headset, I have nearly 800 hours in the index and the only issue that I've had was completely my fault, being a ripped out thumb stick that i caused which valve replaced for free

the side of my index blew up just like yours did haha i was kinda hopping to find a way to prevent that from happening but good video ! :)

Thanks bro . Really informative

I can feel the frustration in his voice when he talks about the inconviniences

the BEST SERIES ON RU-vid is back

That's a lot of damage ;D, glad that Valve replaces failed devices :). Thanks Gaben!

I recommend a stationary shot from directly above for inspecting. It gives a very modern feel, professional looking to have a very slow pan out on one too.

Tips is to put on the wrist straps and then put on the headset (avoid drops). The motor in the base stations are sensitive to heat, so I let my four 2.0 base stations power down (green light to blue light). Wait some seconds and then cut the power so they can cool down. But I only had them running for 9 months, will report back when more time has passed. I also wipe the controllers and headset after each use with a dry and smooth towel to remove sweat and oil that comes from your hands. As oil cause damage to plastic over time.

My vive has lasted me 3 years without a single replacement. If I ever get a index. I am keeping my vive as a back up for sure lol

i have to admit I've been a lucky one. I've only had to replace one controller from stick drift and i had the stars problem once but rebooted my computer and it was fixed. Hearing your multiple horror stories reminds me that, even if i love this thing, I shouldn't fully praise it like i want to, it has it's cons.

This has given me much to think about when upgrading from my Rift S in the future, thanks thrill. Hopefully another company steps up, or valve does a revision to the index that reinforces its weak points shown!

I'd let my stations run all the time if they weren't so... Audible

6:28 the FAQ says: "SteamVR's Base Station Power Management feature is turned OFF by default. Turning this feature ON ensures that your Base Stations power off when not in use to reduce power usage and extend their lifespan."

This man literally break dances in VR just FYI Ive hit my wall and the HMD numerous times playing Thrill of the fight and I have cracked 1 controller after a genuine countless number of times. The controller actually retained full functionality but I RMAed it anyway. Consider as well I do real boxing so Im providing a full force punch and yet still not doing this kind of damage to my index. Ive truly never seen anyone break an index more than this guy

So glad I waited on index and am having a grand ol time with Q2 and VD on PC. Hope full body solution comes our

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I wish o could afford an index but the quest 2 is my maximum limit

Been waiting since it came out, first thing I buy once I get a job agian will be this I've wanted it for so long. Hopefully I don't have to replace it till I can afford to. Appreciate the tips!

Thrill, the deca gear is coming out in my birth month, so ive been thinking of it for a gift, so i hope your doing a review on it, it would be so helpful.

Do the base stations make noise when running (isn't there something spinning inside)? How much power do they consume?

I dropped my quest controllers in the water and it worked -_- And I threw my quest of my roof and it was still fine, damn the stuff it’s made of

I just ordered my valve index 2 days before you made this video.

Well said. I've had to go through 6 RMAs with the Index controllers and now the my warranty is up they are not doing anything for me. I've figured out how to fix the thumbstick drift by actually replacing the thumbstick component. I'm going to be uploading a video soon explaining the process as well as possibly offering a service for anyone that needs thumbstick drift fixed in case they'd rather not do their own repairs.

Why do I keep doing this getting here really early

I just got my valve index, and it’s beautifullllllll. I’ll be sad the day it stops smelling like a new car...:(

One very good advice with the index headset is when you are done, unplug the cable and wrap it around the headset. This will prevent the cable from kinking up, and will help the life expectancy of the cable. I bought mine shortly after the first stimulus check came out back in April, when they finally managed to get the Index restocked. Aside from the triggers slightly squeaking and my left thumbstick having a very small dead zone when moving horizontally, haven't had a problem with it. Although it is disconcerting that you went through 5 controllers. Since Valve expects you to grip it alot, you would think they would made it more durable to compensate

I’m buying an index because of you. Thank you for helping me in my decision

Aren't you the guy who was doing handstands wearing a VR headset?

9:31 Y'all heard that? When Pimax releases their controllers Thrillseeker is switching.

I have had my vive base stations on nonstop for 2 years with no issue so that's pretty epic

I will not leave the base stations on and here is why: First, I have the 1.0 ones and they are emitting a very subtle beeping sound constantly. If my room is totally quiet it really bothers me because i then here it. Second, my remote control doesn't work when the base stations are on because it is infra red, too. Thanks for the cable tip, though. I use the reverb g2 with index controllers and have the same pulley system. I just fixed my cable similar to yours. :D As always, great video!!! Normally I'm more of a lurker than a comment writer, but keep up. I love the content you create.

if you listen very carefully, you can hear thrills wallet crying

We all know we are waiting for the quest review after 100 hours

I bought a Rift CV1 on the first day, still have it, use it all the time and it still works fine. Never had an issue.

I only use mine on the weekends. When I'm not using it I put it and the controllers in the Apache 4800 hard case from harbor freight. I can't speak to longevity, but I got some lens covers from VR optician just to protect my lenses.

I mean, you got 2 hours for every dollar spent? That seems like a good deal...

The index seems so fragile compared to everything else, I’ve seen my friend throw his quest 1 into the wall 2 separate times when he gets mad, and it’s fine. I’m not saying you should throw your headset and that abuse isn’t bad, but still

So far since launch I've replaced both controllers due to drift and both base statuons. I just had to do my own replacement of the thumbstick module on my right controller ( original launch controller so out of warranty ) which was a fun project to try but by the gods it is a pain to do effectively. I love my headset and controllers, and my GF won't play any other VR setup since they all give her VR sickness. I can't wait to see what they do next and to see what everyone else comes up with especially with the advances in haptic gloves. The next year or so is gonna be awesome for VR tech if CES 2021 is any indication. Cheers!

I ordered my valve index today, I’m very excited to try it out, I wonder how many games support the index controllers, can’t expect too many lol. I had my rift S for over 5 months, it’s a great headset but it has issues with steamVR and my iPD is horrible for it, no adjuster sucks. I play with VR far less frequently so hopefully I don’t run into these issues... hopefully play more VR when Zenith comes out

The valve index is like a gold pickaxe in Minecraft it is the best but breaks in 4 seconds

"This is not OK" 5 seconds later "I do admit I'm rough with my headsets" Fucking melt.

My one is still fine. 😁I care much. I put the speakers all the time at the back side when I laying it down. It was a used one from eBay or amazon. It's really a great thing too having it!

I've had my head set for one year and haven't had any issues with my index. I cracked a controller against a chair and it had no effect on the finger tracking. Or buttons. I've only used it for around 400 hours. Would recommend