Paedmonn don’t got it but I know a lot about vr I have had a few headsets I don’t think it is very complicated to set up all you need to do is download steam on a gaming pc hook everything up and u can start with free games also it’s not very also you need more places to set 2 basestations(minitrackingcameras) also the reason it is so good is because the high refresh rate I thing it’s more than double the rift s and the field of view is also way bigger and the controllers are very good they track your fingers and how much pressure you press on each finger
@Paedmonn It is simple. Plug in the head set to the computer and a power outlet. plug the two sensors into outlets as well and then youre ready to play after mapping the floor space with the walk through on screen. takes 10 minutes or less.
@@scottskadsheim8248 usually (as r/valveindex states) it updates from 8 to 3/4 to order ready then its shipping soon and finally shipped. It goes straight from 8 to 4.
saw this video posted on the valve index subreddit while i was waiting for my food to heat up in the microwave. Found yourself a new subscriber, looking forward to future videos
I built my own pulley system. It took some minor work and cost around $25~ plus labor with poor purchases (bought many things I didn't end up needing) and it was honestly tons of fun.
i ordered in like mid august but switched over to HMD+C and bought the base stations separate on september 5th; base stations coming today and HMD+C tmr
Wow I guess they fixed their shit since you're guys post. I ordered mine january 2021, it said 8 weeks estimated and came in around 4 days. Was trying to line up the order with my new pc coming in
This is the first review I have watched and I already bought it. I talked to people and interacted with those who were using these devices. Even with that Hands-On observation, it was a difficult choice to make and now I'm just searching for information on longevity and smooth usage as well as setup tips. You titled your video perfectly. Upvoted and thank you very much.
Yeah I was going to get a Oculus quest but now that I have a powerful pc and I heard about the Facebook thing I’m getting this one, I was going to get a quest even after I got my computer but that Facebook thing is making me get this one
At 3:24. I was going to ask about the mic picking up that fan and you answered the question as I thought of it. Such a quality video. Again, thank you so much. I will share this with people. It's going to my discord right now.
I'd go with an hp reverb g2 Better resolution, can pair with index base stations and controllers (the kit will bring the total cost in line with an index and the controllers) plus you get a pair of backup controllers that come with the headset. 2160x2160 per eye. Looks amazing
I can confirm that the drifting does occur in the new controller overtime as well. albeit much less prominent that a 10%-20% dead-zone will completely nullify it. And in my case so far the drifting doesn't get worse after that. Where the old controller the drift will continue to worsen in that even after setting maximum dead-zone you'll still be sliding around.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 @MoncimooV Some guy on reddit has since found out the root cause of the drift, apparently it's due to plastic rubbing on plastic in the axle part of the potentiometer. Hard to describe but very easy to understand when you see the photos. The good news is that the replacement component is very easy to find, and only requires minimum soldering work. only the disassembly is kind of tedious. tinyurl.com/y3v583n7
Good tips, especially on the counter weight. I’ll have to order that. The cable issue....I noticed when I got my index a couple of weeks ago, they really wind the cable pretty tight. The area where the two cables become one specifically. I was surprised I didn’t have to RMA it. Who ever is packing these need to watch that. It’s no wonder there have been people get theirs and have it dead out of the box.
that chair setup was genius haha! love that one=] feel like this video is a large flex at how amazing your place is!:) its brilliant i love it. great video, i was already trying to stop myself buying an index and now im not gonna have any chance:(!
Ummm this comment got flagged as spam. What have you been up to Steve! Not flexing, covid has made my muscles weak and flabby. Yeah I started the chair attachment when I used to use a Wireless V\ive Pro. I would strap the whole battery to the back of the chair.
One of the best cases you can have for VR is a Thermaltake P series case, it has an open air design, but for VR headsets, there are Solid Steel pillar mounts that hold the Tinted Tempered Glass Plate to the chassis, What you do is use 2 velcro straps and if you have it upright or in horizonal use 2 pillars to secure the wiring with slack on the back end of the PC(You can drape it underneath over the top or on a side, If you combine it with a pully you can have some of it retract as well, all in all fully loaded it should be around 35-50lbs of hardware to anchor 2), Otherwise on a regular case on the back there are ventilation holes take a couple zip ties and create anchor points for the Velcro if your PC has Feet that are thick enough run your wire under the PC. Another alternative is getting something from Ikea like Mick or Alex file cabinet(also nice for storing the headset) and adding the secure mount channeling.
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Pro tip. If your index is about to go out of warranty tell steam support your screen flickers on and off sometimes. They will RMA it. You'll get a brand new index.
@@laos85 I'd rather have finger tracking at 144hz than the quest 2. My girlfriend has one and it's a good headset to mess around with but the index is my go to for triple A titles.
@@awsome14619 I rather have a device that doesn't break so I don't have to waste time on fixing and sending back while I enjoy Quest 2 which has a real finger tracking without controllers
Got mine today and so excited to set it up and get it working. Definitely coming back to this video I future so remind myself and see what I need. Some great tips, especially that about cable mounts on your chair.
OpenVR advanced settings also has the center marker and it can offset, rotate and do pretty much everything with the chaperone, plus it's free and open source
@@yomama91927e Well, I have confidence that they worked out the kinks. They had help from Valve this time, too. MRTV Sebastian was raving about the Reverb G2 in his preview, that carries a lot of weight with me. There may be some quality issues, but it's not like the Index and controllers didn't have their flaws either. I actually had to RMA my Index HMD. I think HP got it right this time, overall. At this point in the game I think I will quite possibly be updating my VR gear annually.
The only really good thing about the G2 as far as I know (compared to the Index) is the resolution. Now it would be great for immersion, especially for the price. Seeing text and some other things may even make you cry it’s so good. But I’ve become accustomed to the 120-144 hz on the Index and now I can’t go back. In fact, I could never use VR for more than an hour before I got my Index (I was on Rift CV1) now though, I can last up to 3 hours until it’s just the pressure on my head that gets to me because I prefer to wear my HMD’s very tight. The controllers on the G2 look like they will be a step up from before, but still not the best. And I haven’t even gotten to one of the biggest things yet! There’s a rumor that to get consistent frames at the Max resolution, you’ll need at least a 2080. I know that’s not what it says on the website but a few people have speculated that what they recommended won’t even be able to keep consistent frames. Now, I know I’ve left out a lot of things that this headset has as a plus, one of them being the inside out tracking, but personally, I can’t stand inside out tracking. I have tried multiple rift s headsets and I must say I was not impressed. I think inside out tracking is the future, but I don’t think we are there yet. And again, given the track record of HP (I know they’re working with Valve but Valve didn’t design everything) I don’t think I can trust their inside out tracking will be better
I've been watching these videos (general Valve Index news and reviews) for a while now. I'm finally buying one, just in time for a massive liver surgery lmao. Can't wait to get ahold of it and finally be able to use it after recovery.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 I was gonna pick up Elite Dangerous first because S P A C E, and I've gotten into it again. Figured with my hotas setup it'd be still enough. But yeah, thank you for the advice man!
Something i would recommend trying are flexible cable looms for your headset cable it might help to prevent tangles and kinks haven't tried it yet but will soon
Great tips man, appreciate the content🤘😎 Just got the Index for Xmas, and just started setting up the room for it. You got another subscriber here. Thank you Matteo!
wooow thanks alot of the Retractable Ceiling Pulley thing, i didn't know this existed. currently setting up my VR system at my place and found your video, very very awesome. VERY awesome that valve support is top notch, this is why its over-priced a bit compared to other brands. Awesome video sir!
Too bad you didn't have a sponsored link for the chillindex, i didnt know it exist and just ordered it because of you. Thank you man. Edit: For future reference, i have this now, and i dont think this makes any if much difference to be using. After 10 minutes of BoxVr my glasses get foggy at max fan speed.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 Maybe, but if it's something you recommend and it makes sense... I've bought thrill of the fight, i need all the cooling possible, and i also got the covers for the index and pulley system. If it helps you make a living and it's you genuine recommendation, i don't see the harm.
I bought cable extensions and then made sure the index cable slipped out of the extensions more easily that way I hook the extensions to my desk and if I go to far then my index just comes unplugged rather than jerking on the cord or pc. And yeah twisting with the pulley system can kill a cable in minutes so definitely be careful
The adhesive cable holder is a great idea. I play iracing and F1 is VR and the cable is highly annoying getting it to stay behind my seat on my sim rig.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 according to my math (that i made up) i should be getting it within the next 7-9 days seeing as people who ordered about 5 days before i did started getting payment emails
I can't wait for my pre order of the Valve Index to complete and ship, hopefully by maybe September, I pre ordered last month, I just want a worthy upgrade from the Rift S, A bigger fov is what I want with a good resolution, Hp Reverb G2 isn't out yet, so don't know how good it is yet, hopefully all the kinks have been worked out with the Index with the delay of orders and shipments during this pandemic of 2020, hope it is worth the wait when I finally receive the Index
I had serious issues with my Vive Pro. I actually had 2 of them. It never looked nearly as clear as the index to me and it always got too hot for me to handle. Glad you are enjoying it though.
I finally saved enough after months of doing so and I’ve made the first step of placing my order for an Index. I placed it last week, and within a few days I went from “ships in 8 or more weeks” down to 4, and just today I’ve moved down to three. I’m kinda shocked it’s moving along so quickly, and kind of in disbelief too. Anyone have recent purchasing experience? I’m curious as to how long it could actually take for me to get the purchase confirmation prompt.
Ordered mine around November 26th, said “9 or more weeks” dropped pretty rapidly to 5 and then 3, then sat on 2 for alittle while. December 16th I was able to enter the info and it shipped out the next day 👍🏼 arrives tomorrow!
That makes me wonder, do they change the device based on the problems that occur? So the Indexes made a year ago are different than the ones made recently? I guess it would make sense money-wise, since replacing devices probably can rack up big costs with issues that are common.
I just Received my Valve Index today. I'm looking at all the tips and trickes i can find before i use it. I allready have a pully system for the cable. so im good there. I just want to see if there's any other cool things i can get to make it even better
I used to use the front USB port slot for my cleaning cloth as well but then I took it out when I realized your insulating the vents for the hot air to escape and it was making my headset get hot I wouldn't recommend putting the cleaning cloth there
When looking to jump into VR, cost and quality were in strong contention. A lot of "best headsets" videos and articles pointed to the quest 2, which my nephew has but I refuse to have a Facebook account. The index was on my list but my wife didn't like the price tag, and where I am, even used ones were kind of gougy. The pico neo 3 link is a nice quest 2 clone by the looks of it, but not only is it made in China, but it's a company owned by China, so nope. Varja...I wish but nope, same with anything pimax. Found the reverb g2 but heard of all the tracking issues and then found out about the v2 and all of it's improvements. My wife found a guy selling two on FB marketplace (we use her mother's account, must mess with fb something fierce that her mom is always in 4 places at once), the guy thought they were v2s (thinking that g2 meant v2). They weren't, I could tell by the lack of the segmented faceplate, but at 500$ CAD for one still sealed in the box, I couldn't complain. Turns out the tracking really isn't that bad, and I play Premiun Bowling, which requires bringing the controller far behind me and low. At first I thought I was experiencing the bad tracking in that game, but turns out there is a "fmdirection check" setting in game that fixed all my issues. It also has amazing screens, at 2160x2160 per eye and decent enough lenses, and has the index sound system, which is amazing. I'd strongly recommend grabbing the new revision as not only does it have improved I side out tracking, bit you can also connect the index knuckles to it, which you already have. It's pretty well balanced and has a similar head strap, though wit elastic velcro straps, instead of the welder mask know, which I would have preferred. I'm only recommending it because you are a vr channel and I find most people who have one don't have too many major tracking problems even with the old version. Yeah, it's WMR.....:(
i was planning to order an Index, but now there are rumors or talks of a wireless index or an adapter to make it wireless. Nothing confirmed yet, but I know the moment I order one, they will announce something. I always have that luck.
You should put an order in now even if you’re not 100% sure since the wait times for it take quite a while. You don’t actually pay till it’s ready to ship.
My biggest issue is comfort while wearing glasses. The HMD pushes my glasses down onto the bridge of my nose and after about an hour it gets too painful and I need to take a break for a few mins. This has been an issue with every headset I've used though and its actually not as bad in the Index as with some others. I've considered getting the custom prescription inserts but they're nearly $100 and you can't use them in any other headset... The only other issue is how frustrating it is that so many VR games are Oculus exclusives...it's really anti-consumerist and greedy IMO...
Valve needs to disect the original oculus touch controllers and see how they made a controller that can take such a beating and still work amazing I mean I still have both my wife and my rift cv1 units with touch controllers and we haven't had anything go bad at all. I did purchase an extra cable for backup yes ago but haven't used it yet. The cv1 was a tough SOB hahaha
Im planning to use the index or the reverb g2 prolonged simulator sessions, also by people not used to vr or gaming. So consistent fps is important i think. From that perspective, what do you guys recommend i choose? I thought the index, since it has higher fov and balance on the head? On the other hand, the reduced screendoor and increased res (have beefy pc) would advocate the g2 maybe..? For this sim i will not be using controllers so controler tracking is not a variable i take into account.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 thanks! And what about the fov being lower than on the index, would that not be a disadvantage maybe increasing motion sickness (because the image is more narrow?)
@@Flightcoach won't impact motion sickness, there is a mod you can do to increase the fov. Some people notice the fov more than others so its hard for me to say
I've been thinking about getting an Index, but seeing that it would be an 8 week wait (or possibly more) before I could receive it, I'm not sure. I'm open to insight on that, though.
If you have a high end gaming system to pair with the index, its worth the wait. You would have to wait just as long for the reverb g2 as its not out yet
Do what I did -- push that order button! There's 0 commitment, they will just contact you when it's your turn 8+ weeks later, and then you would provide payment and shipping info then. You can always change your mind as you wait, but get in line first!
It says 8 weeks but I got my confirmation to order after 4 days, now I have 7 days to decide if I want to order. I have the Vive and get too much VR sickness but VR is so cool. Edit: I only ordered the headset so that probably helped the speed.
Alan Ross just to know, do we really need to buy the full kit at 1 800$? Like, can’t i just buy the headset and the controller without all the tracking thing ( just to know if it’s possible to buy it at a lower price lol
I ordered mine and waited 2 days then said shipping soon then was at my house next day talk about fast shipping but of course it's not as bad as it was 8 months ago but still says 2 week ship time so got lucky still
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 ya I love it . Honestly it looks way better then my quest 2 even with link maxed at 1.7 .. only issue I have is trying to not grip my hand in pop one take time to get use to again ... I've seen you in lobbies I believe in past
If you joy sticks are experiencing problems after 400 hours.. or any hours... your being to ruff with them.. Ive had my index for almost 2 years and It looks and preforms like the day I first got it
