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My Week with the 2023 Toyota GR Corolla 

Matt Maran Motoring
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I spend a week with the GR Corolla Core to see what it's like to live with. I discovered that although it isn't perfect, the GR Corolla is an incredibly special feeling car that doesn't deserve the negativity it's gotten due to dealer markups. What do you think about the GR Corolla and would you take it over a Golf R, Civic Type R or Integra Type S? Thanks to Toyota for providing this vehicle to review.
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@Mean_Bean279
@Mean_Bean279 Год назад
Matt, I totally get the “special” thing you can’t quite figure out. My Evo X felt the same way. You’d get in it and the cheap interior and rat fur cloth and carpet definitely did nothing, but it felt special. My CLS63S (the final year of it) is caked in leather and has all sorts of “special” touches and still doesn’t have that special sauce the Evo did. I’m glad Toyota gave us this gift. It’s nice to send out the ICE like this.
@JEtienneMusic
@JEtienneMusic Год назад
As a fellow former Evo X owner couldn't agree more. The bland interior and laggy infotainment didn't bother me at all because I had fun every time I got behind the wheel! Sans stop n go DC area rush hour traffic that is 😅😂
@im_an_alvani
@im_an_alvani Год назад
Looks like we have ourselves a GRCorollaFan in the making lol. Was looking forward to this upload and it definitely didn’t disappoint!
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Haha I'm definitely more of a GRCorollaFan than a SubaruWRXFan now lol.
@stevethomas760
@stevethomas760 11 месяцев назад
The original owner of my '91 NSX paid 20K over MSRP, 83K. A lot of money now, a boatload in '91. I called around 50 dealers including ones out of state, luckily found one about 20 miles away. MSRP + $1600 dealer add ons (40.5K) in Feb. At 74 my clock is ticking faster than most people looking for the GR. Stretch run, live it on boost. Good review
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred Месяц назад
What dealer was that? Which city?
@stevethomas760
@stevethomas760 Месяц назад
@@datdudeinred Nalley Toyota Union City (south Atlanta) Good luck, fun car.
@whatsforsupa
@whatsforsupa Год назад
Seriously looking forward to getting one of these in a year or two when the prices come down to earth. Turbo, stick, AWD, and a HATCHBACK! Not to mention Toyota reliability... seems like the perfect car for an enthusiast
@jasoncee666
@jasoncee666 Год назад
And with a few mods they can easily run 10's 😎
@mengx94
@mengx94 Год назад
Few mods like e85, turbo, intercooler, etc etc.. very few and minor mods nbd
@lilripsta911
@lilripsta911 Год назад
sorry to break it to you but Prices on these cars will never go down to earth, instead they will go up
@durimhasangjekaj2708
@durimhasangjekaj2708 Год назад
@@jasoncee666will likely need a big turbo and built motor to achieve 10s with this platform.
@KN-jw7ts
@KN-jw7ts 11 месяцев назад
You really think so huh?
@falxonPSN
@falxonPSN Год назад
I just saw one of these at my local cars and coffee yesterday and it looked gorgeous. It's really difficult to realize how good these look until you see one in person.
@Bobbybeb
@Bobbybeb Год назад
It's a really good fun car for the value. Us toyota employees are just as mad about the markups as the customers. Those same dealers won't honor our employee discounts.
@gold7621
@gold7621 Год назад
I’m about to ask Monday morning if I could at least be put on a list for it. Only if I can get it for msrp instead of the full employee discount. 🤞
@Scott-mu4xw
@Scott-mu4xw Год назад
@@gold7621there’s a used one in my area with 4000 miles, selling it for 42k
@gold7621
@gold7621 Год назад
Update they’re offering it to me with a 2500 mark up which I don’t think is too bad but I’m not sure.
@Scott-mu4xw
@Scott-mu4xw Год назад
@@gold7621 I would pass.
@Bobbybeb
@Bobbybeb Год назад
@@gold7621 Still sucks, but if it's the only option, then it's not bad. If you wait or shop around in other states, you might find one cheaper.
@QueTheChaotic
@QueTheChaotic Год назад
Matt you were spot on with this review. I took delivery of my GR Corolla a month ago and it is SO fun. All these cars are costly and hard to come across except for the WRX
@agaad22
@agaad22 Год назад
The WRX is a steal at a starting price of $31k
@CarsUncovered
@CarsUncovered Год назад
and Elantra N!
@mitchellsteindler
@mitchellsteindler Год назад
For real the wrx is still a great option. And the 2.4L is turning out to be an insane tuning platform.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Congrats on getting one!
@jimsgaragetoys
@jimsgaragetoys Год назад
Matt, I've owned my GR Corolla for 6 months now and I love it and I know what you mean about that special thing. I bought a loaded Core for just under $40k which was MSRP and no dealer add ons. There are many MSRP dealers and in a poll more than half of us paid MSRP, you just have to search. I have no issues with the cloth interior of the Core and its under stated looks. It's functional and clean. I did miss having an armrest and fixed the issue for $129, that's all it takes to get a solution and it looks great. I actually like the OEM exhaust and don't find it booming or prone to drone. It is an active exhaust but through the rear center pipe only and you can hear the valve close 20-30 seconds after a cold start. I also like the smaller size, when I drove a Civic Type R it felt huge and that red interior will be a huge pain to keep clean. I've seen so many of them over the years that look terrible. And I'll be honest, I'll be in mine by myself most of the time attacking back country roads. And I was like you, this car is much more fun than the Golf R with its terrible HVAC and stereo controls. And its shifter wasn't nearly as good. I love the feel of mine. I also see around 25 mpg when driving hard and when adding in a little more highway my average is about 29 mpg on a full tank. I see 32-34 on the open road most of the time.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Thanks for your great comment and sharing your purchasing and ownership experience! I really appreciate it!
@jimsgaragetoys
@jimsgaragetoys Год назад
@@MattMaranMotoring Thanks, Matt. I enjoyed the video and wanted to add a little context. There is a lot of misinformation that I see from people floating around. In my area the Civic Type R and Golf R both had huge dealer ADM while there were several Toyota dealers selling for MSRP.
@ciello___8307
@ciello___8307 14 дней назад
Thats great mpg compared to the subarus
@nberkel
@nberkel Год назад
Enjoyed the enthusiasm in this review. I can definitely understand what you're saying as far as a fun car goes. I went from a Fiesta ST to Golf R and totally had more fun in the FiST!
@tedadamgreen
@tedadamgreen Год назад
Thrilled to see you get this for a full week!! Thanks for your reviews of cars that are possibly attainable for the Everyman! Whahooooooooo!!
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Thanks Ted!
@misnomerl6329
@misnomerl6329 8 месяцев назад
Current Socal markups for Type R is 12K so its 18k more expensive than Corolla core with LSD. Just ridiculous.
@eRxi98
@eRxi98 Год назад
Matt you are spot on with that "special" feeling. I've been lucky to drive my friend's FL5 and other friend's Elantra N and even though I get second thoughts of getting a type R lol I'd still choose my GRC because of it. Reminds me too of my dad's previous hawkeye sti where it had that cheap interior but fades away cause of what the drivetrain makes you feel. Not something Toyota makes often too!
@Therafester14
@Therafester14 Год назад
Love the video. Good advice to go out of the way and hunt for one at MSRP or close. I was surprised at the used market already
@dannyd7714
@dannyd7714 Год назад
My Circuit Edition is on the way to the dealership. I can't wait to pick it up.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Congrats!
@dannyd7714
@dannyd7714 Год назад
@@MattMaranMotoring thank you!
@Barely2JZ
@Barely2JZ Год назад
I drove two GR Corollas so far and they’re so fun. 3 cyl turbo throws down!!
@IsaacDuVon.
@IsaacDuVon. 9 месяцев назад
If you don’t mind me asking, how have you driven two GR Corollas? I’ve been wanting to drive one so bad haha
@NEMotoGuy
@NEMotoGuy Год назад
My circuit edition comes more premium, and also the driver window switches all four are auto up/down. Was also able to get mine for $1K under MSRP.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Wow congrats, that’s the first I’ve heard of anyone getting one at a discount! Thanks for the info on the window switches too!
@NEMotoGuy
@NEMotoGuy Год назад
@@MattMaranMotoring No problem! Toyota gave me a $1K incentive for ordering another GR after I bought my GR Supra years ago. My dealer only sells at MSRP. Not all dealers are terrible lol. Great video as always!
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
That's awesome that Toyota actually let you use that on something like a GR Corolla. I know Ford always excludes the cool cars from the incentives haha.
@syed1691
@syed1691 Год назад
Which dealer is this ??
@NEMotoGuy
@NEMotoGuy Год назад
@@syed1691 Toyota of Watertown in MA.
@leozz8074
@leozz8074 Год назад
I have been number one on my local Toyota dealers GR wait-list since February of 2022. I just finally got a call that one MIGHT be coming. I told them I had already given up and bought a new WRX. Yes, the GR is a more special car, but my WRX was $12k less than the GR, qualified for Subaru 2.9% financing (vs 6-7% Toyota), and is now making 310-320 wheel HP with an intake/tune that cost $1100. That said, I'll still be going to check out the GR when it comes in to see if I really feel like making a poor financial decision, lol.
@EvolutionIX219
@EvolutionIX219 Год назад
The new WRX is incredible and makes impressive numbers with light modifications. The hate it gets is unfounded.
@leozz8074
@leozz8074 9 месяцев назад
Well, it's a few months later and I remembered my original comment...I just took delivery of my GR Corolla Circuit Edition in Heavy Metal gray. It's as good as Matt says. It is an amazing and special car. If you can get one for MSRP, do it!
@witchelreme3262
@witchelreme3262 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the update!!!
@faisalhandang8540
@faisalhandang8540 7 месяцев назад
@@leozz8074would you go over the reasons you pick the gr corolla?
@faisalhandang8540
@faisalhandang8540 7 месяцев назад
I.e. driving dynamic
@kreyz2215
@kreyz2215 7 месяцев назад
Growing up I always wanted an 05 STI but now I am saving up to get a GR Corolla. Used to watch you back then as well.
@wtfx5757
@wtfx5757 Год назад
Awesome review. Loved this video. I can feel your love of this car through this video.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@thetruckingcarguy
@thetruckingcarguy Год назад
Theres something about rally that produces awesome cars
@oldpirate7434
@oldpirate7434 Год назад
I drove one 3 months ago and it was a awesome ride on the back roads. Wife didn't let me buy because she has a Corolla IM for the past 6 yrs and she said that should be all we need. But it was sweet so anyone want one GET IT!
@niveketihw1897
@niveketihw1897 Год назад
Ugh, wives...
@deej628
@deej628 Год назад
Should have lost the wife.
@NaijaBull
@NaijaBull Год назад
Wife didn't LET me buy? How hold are you 12? Go grab your balls from her purse
@whereswaldo9089
@whereswaldo9089 Год назад
​@deej628 better idea to sell the wife and buy the ride. 😂
@TommyPickIes
@TommyPickIes Год назад
Great video!
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Thanks!
@kevinhamlett1400
@kevinhamlett1400 11 месяцев назад
I have started mods on my friends GR Corolla. Done cold air intake, exhaust Magna-flow , just sent ECU out to get tune loaded. Next is intercooler and downpipe.
@kevinhamlett1400
@kevinhamlett1400 10 месяцев назад
Just did down pope and shifter bushings. Downpipe made it nasty.
@gene978
@gene978 Год назад
Currently there are 280 nationwide for sale. There are many dealers asking sticker. Yes, some are $10K over retail
@Barely2JZ
@Barely2JZ Год назад
My local carmax had two with both priced over 48K. Didn’t see what trim they were before they were shipped out to another store for a customer
@StrongerThanEver84
@StrongerThanEver84 Год назад
i know you made this comment 8 days ago but theres currently 721 for sale in the US as of today
@s4awd2
@s4awd2 3 месяца назад
Great car! Rally cars for the road will always have huge appeal now and down the road.
@waltfraher7198
@waltfraher7198 Год назад
With Toyota reliability, could this car be a new icon for them? Just like Honda's legendary cars?
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
In my opinion this one will go down in the Toyota history books as one of the all-time greats.
@martingriggs6362
@martingriggs6362 9 месяцев назад
I drove the Core edition of this vehicle about a week ago. It was a Toyota rep car with 4500 miles on it, so a new GR with 4500 miles. The salesman tossed me the keys, and said have fun. Driving the car alone was special. I owned a WRX, and 2 Fiesta STs. The Fiesta was the most fun thing I ever bought with money. The GR was more fun. The $38k msrp is in todays market reasonable, still expensive though. My Fiesta STs were around $22K.
@lilrockstarrs
@lilrockstarrs Год назад
I want one of these so freaking bad lol. Great review as always Matt!!!
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Thanks Blaze!
@robertsantiago3102
@robertsantiago3102 Год назад
God I wish I could get my hands on one of these!
@jean-frederickjacques6780
@jean-frederickjacques6780 8 месяцев назад
Matt, like you, I've bought cars out of state and will continue to do so. The majority of the dealers I contacted in the state of VA are not marking up this car.
@sfoonsfo
@sfoonsfo Месяц назад
Sadly the dealers are the ones hurting the car as you indicated. I too had to go a distance to take delivery of a car because dealers just wanted to mark up the vehicle by $10K and would not stock a manual transmission version. Decades ago, the person in charge of Porsche Cars North America indicated that one of their problems are the dealers. They didn't know the vehicle, the techs were not on par with what Porsche expects... sadly the dealership associations fought back and won. All this aside, I would love to experience the GR Corolla if only the dealers would have one for you to see and to drive.
@ChoPi-Eww
@ChoPi-Eww 10 месяцев назад
Great comparison with the relevant competition! One thing though: a used Macan S can be had for about $45k with decent miles. I guess it comes down to how much hot hatchiness vs calmer luxury you want?
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 10 месяцев назад
Yeah when you open up used options there’s all kinds of interesting comparisons. I think the manual is a real differentiator here too.
@mugens2k
@mugens2k Год назад
Matt, Honda needs to send you the FL5 for a week so you can experience an actual special car. Only kidding, the GR looks sweet!
@WestUCoog
@WestUCoog 11 месяцев назад
Great review. So glad Toyota brought this out. It's an awesome car, I'd take this over the CTR.
@davidy932
@davidy932 Год назад
Love the passion Matt!
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Thanks!
@djsir901
@djsir901 Год назад
I was sold on the GR Corolla but dealing with dealer mark ups and availability made the process drag on too long. I did a search on autonation and found a WRX Limited trim at $33K. Considering that I'm coming from a 2017 WRX, i think the fully loaded WRX at $10K less than the GR might be a no brainer.
@SarcasticComments23
@SarcasticComments23 6 месяцев назад
Got 5.9 seconds to 60 really pushing it! Was the best we could get during testing
@Tux_Appreciator
@Tux_Appreciator Год назад
I want one so badly 🥺. Screw stealerships.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
They're out there! I discuss purchasing towards the end of the video.
@rickybobby7549
@rickybobby7549 Год назад
It’s a Toyota. Lol
@Freddy_Confetti
@Freddy_Confetti Год назад
Looks like a PT cruiser
@jasoncee666
@jasoncee666 Год назад
​@@Freddy_Confettiyou definitely need glasses or a brain transplant 😂
@EvolutionIX219
@EvolutionIX219 Год назад
​@@Freddy_ConfettiLooks like a gaming mouse
@derpydestinies
@derpydestinies Год назад
Whatever Toyota does to keep MSRP down is pointless if they allow dealers to markup the cars.
@mharro88
@mharro88 Год назад
This is way more fun to drive than the integra or type r
@bobbykhan5787
@bobbykhan5787 Год назад
Matt, you’re probably tired of hypothetical question, but would you take this or a GR86 in terms of fun? I’m on a waitlist for the Corolla but I’ve always been partial to rwd sportscars (have had some including ‘13 BRZ) and worry it might not be what I truly want.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
It depends on what you're wanting and needing. If you're partial to RWD and enjoyed your BRZ then I think the GR86 will be close to the same fun for $10k less. If I didn't need the practicality or AWD, I'd go GR86 personally. But if you're looking for a new experience and could appreciate the AWD or practicality, GR Corolla is great and will give you a little bit of that RWD fun as well with the adjustable torque split. Hope that helps! Feel free to ask any follow-up questions too if you want!
@bobbykhan5787
@bobbykhan5787 Год назад
@@MattMaranMotoring thanks for your thoughts! Yeah I did enjoy my BRZ (basically had it when you did and subscribed to your channel back then), and it seems the GR86 is better almost all around. I don’t really need practicality, but things like the engine character and sounds or the specialty factor/awd that you alluded to in your review keep me interested in the Corolla. It’ll be a tough decision for sure (if/when my turn comes up)
@sunnyvalentino
@sunnyvalentino Год назад
​@MattMaranMotoring thanks Matt. I had the same question. I drove the 86 (I have driven LOTS of sports cars over my life) and it was pure, nimble, agile and such a joy. Reminded me of S2000 and RX8 and better in my opinion than Cayman for fun on local canyons (Cayman better on track). I am a dad now and eyeing the GRC but max grip and rip isn't my thing anymore. I am leaning towards an 86PP.
@andydufresne8034
@andydufresne8034 Год назад
My guess is what makes it so special is it was Akio Toyoda's baby and he is a speical guy.
@stevensanchez330
@stevensanchez330 Год назад
Woohoo finally!
@Timlikescars89
@Timlikescars89 5 месяцев назад
You can find these in MSRP nowadays.
@Kevin-mk6jo
@Kevin-mk6jo Год назад
I can't wait for the GR Tesla with Turbo!!! 😮
@EdLo.
@EdLo. Год назад
Great review!
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Thanks!
@IsaacPoopsAlot
@IsaacPoopsAlot Год назад
The interior is just a bit cheap for me, especially considering the price
@DevPack
@DevPack Год назад
Markups are not really a big thing anymore. Two local dealers around my area were just selling them at sticker.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
I wish the rest of the internet felt the same way lol.
@jdmbren13
@jdmbren13 Год назад
Good video , Yes this shifter is better then a type r That being said it’s harder to drive Yes this car is much more bumpy then the type r, Yes the steering rack is lighter but maybe one of the best tuned steering racks I’ve felt in a long time. It’s is not comfy , it’s a rough real sports car without compromise. And yes I also can not explain the feeling this car corners , I’ve tried to to friends but it’s so hard, this car is an absolute riot
@curtfox91
@curtfox91 Год назад
OMG ABOUT TIMERE
@David_D.926
@David_D.926 Год назад
I know I'll get crap for saying this but I just wish they made these cars (this, acura type s, civic type r etc,) with an automatic. But I'm still glad that they make these vehicles at all.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
There's rumors that automatic transmission GR Corollas have been spied testing. No idea if it'll ever come to market but if the rumors are true than Toyota is at least strongly considering it and looking into it.
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise Год назад
automatic sports cars should be illegal
@mark_845
@mark_845 Год назад
@@fortheloveofnoiseagreed, sucks the fun out of driving the car. These cars don’t need autos
@CruiseControl1
@CruiseControl1 Год назад
Great video and I would love to drive the GR Corolla!!! Would you say it’s more fun to drive than the last gen STI?
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
I'd say they're very close. Engine might feel a bit more powerful in the STI, but this definitely has better handling.
@CruiseControl1
@CruiseControl1 Год назад
@@MattMaranMotoringI live in Colorado and having that awd GR Corolla would be a great daily, b road or track day all in one kind of car.
@mark_845
@mark_845 Год назад
@@MattMaranMotoringeveryone says the grc feels more power than the sti
@psewgobind
@psewgobind Год назад
25mpg on a AWD system is nice. Now I'm curious how efficient the powertrain can be in a lighter 2WD vehicle. Massive potential for rumored MR2. It'd be nice if the ICE setup goes out in a high note, while still being affordable to operate when gas is being tax'd to death.
@davidc750
@davidc750 Месяц назад
Word of advice: DO NOT BUY ones that has low miles and up for sale. They are most likely to have a very hard 1~10k miles either on track or on stoplight getting clutch dumped on boost. Be patient, you can certainly get a good priced new ones if you look a little further.
@NataliaAlves-xz3uy
@NataliaAlves-xz3uy 2 месяца назад
Hey Matt!! Do que voces estao reclamando? Aqui no Brazil o GRC circuit custa 93k dolares e CTR 88k. Se nao considerar o valor qual vc compraria?
@taelee347
@taelee347 Год назад
Don't care if this is the slowest of the latest hot hatches, as long as it has the best connected feel and driving enjoyment I will find one to accompany my almost-18 year old STI. I really want to get that 2024 model year with circuit edition in flaming(?) blue paint then put gold wheels on it.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
That'll look awesome!
@tinhinnh
@tinhinnh 11 месяцев назад
I appreciate your “rant” 😁 most people today just cares about tech 😏
@PacoRobbins
@PacoRobbins Год назад
The only issue I'd have with buying used is what do you lose buying used? I'm sure the warranty is quite a bit shorter and you never know what the previous owner did, even with a few thousand miles. I've looked at used vehicles, but can never bite the bullet as a car guy because I cannot bring myself to trust people took care of the car as well as I do.
@Angryeddie14
@Angryeddie14 Год назад
Looks like a hoot to drive!
@Crispychicken4u
@Crispychicken4u Год назад
I wish we got the Yaris GR here in the U.S. 2800 pounds . 2 door . 257 hp. Tossable
@DM72513
@DM72513 Год назад
My turn came up at an MSRP dealership but it was a Circuit Edition. I couldn’t justify the $45k. If they call me for a Core with Performance Pack I’ll pull the trigger though.
@lanekrarup
@lanekrarup Год назад
The circuit will likely pay for itself when it comes time for resale.
@christopherbassit2757
@christopherbassit2757 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely loving mine. Took it drifting today
@diallo1347
@diallo1347 Год назад
I'm waiting a year or two for the car market to change. If it doesn't, the I'll get the wrx. I'm not paying 50k for a core trim GR Corrola.
@wg5331
@wg5331 Год назад
Matt, that feeling that you referring to is called, as James May put it years and years ago; the fizz. It’s the actual emotion of the car. Accountants be damned, it’s the goal of any performance division engineer.
@luiscruz-if1sg
@luiscruz-if1sg Год назад
I was looking at a Corolla but the markups are ridiculous I saw one for $179,000😮😮😮
@rayleung1
@rayleung1 Год назад
Are you saying that the iMT rev matching isn't by default auto on each time you start the car?
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Yes that's correct, I had to turn it on every time I started the car.
@FWPiano
@FWPiano Год назад
I've fixed this by plugging in a Highlander auto start/stop eliminator. Best $25 bucks I ever spent lol.@@MattMaranMotoring
@markthompson9890
@markthompson9890 Год назад
I liked this review. Fortunately I live in Ontario where dealers have to sell at MSRP. I sat in a black Core edition at my local dealer a few months ago. $45,500 Canadian MSRP. Not bad. Do I need to get the performance package on the Core? It could make it cost as much as a Circuit. Living in Canada and driving in winter I will probably want to get the cold weather package which is probably worth it but is the performance package worth it?
@andrewkrikorian760
@andrewkrikorian760 Год назад
Yes the only necessary package is the performance
@joelpeterson2074
@joelpeterson2074 Год назад
At $35k the interior is BARELY acceptable. I would want it to be about $25k for that interior. Maybe add $5k for the upgraded engine, $30k out the door and I'm in. I would do $35k fully loaded. At the $55k that dealers are asking it's absolutely a no go.
@Borp56
@Borp56 Год назад
The selling point for a WRX at this point is you can grab them under MSRP in a lot of places. My wife's was $36k delivered brand new.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
WRX is still a good car, it's just not nearly as much fun or special, hence the abundant supply and discounts.
@boyutang6990
@boyutang6990 Год назад
In Canada a pre owned veloster N is 25k cheaper than a marked up Gr corolla lol.
@mengx94
@mengx94 Год назад
But markups are illegal in Canada tho :^)
@CTF33
@CTF33 Год назад
And the Veloster N is even more fun to drive than the GR.
@cyberspd
@cyberspd Год назад
Dealers will charge what consumers are willing to pay. They are in the business to make money. We consumers need to speak with our pocket book and refuse to go over MSRP.
@timw2083
@timw2083 Год назад
Not a direct comparison but I want a GR Corolla or CX 30 as a daily driver. I don't NEED the speed but it would be nice to have.
@DM72513
@DM72513 Год назад
What?
@NaijaBull
@NaijaBull Год назад
Very random choice of cars but suurre
@timw2083
@timw2083 Год назад
@@NaijaBull not random both are fun awd.. I know the GRC is purposely built for performance though. It's not a direct apples to apples but both are nice
@niveketihw1897
@niveketihw1897 Год назад
Would really prefer a two-door version. Have no need for back seats let alone rear doors.
@jasoncee666
@jasoncee666 Год назад
Too bad you guys don't get the superior model, the GR Yaris 😎
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
You could always try to find a Morizo edition, those have no back seat haha.
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise Год назад
get the new MR2 when it comes out
@XstonedmonkeyzX
@XstonedmonkeyzX Год назад
Jeesus christ, right from the beginning with the horrible/aggressive shifting 🤣🤣 this ain't F&F lol
@Menace_sti
@Menace_sti Год назад
Seen one today and i was driving my 22 wrx hahaah damn matt hurting feelings jk. I want a type r but of course thatll be a hard fine. Its like these legendary pokemons
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
WRXs are still great too, just a little less fun :)
@michaelw4930
@michaelw4930 Год назад
With markups a reality. Would you say a slightly used GRC with 2k miles on it or would you say a FK8 CTR used for close or the same price. I know the GRC is newer but wondering if the FK8 is the better buy especially if you can get a Limited to get that classic phoenix yellow.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Depends on what you want in regards to practicality, but I’d definitely rather have a GRC over a last gen CTR personally.
@michaelw4930
@michaelw4930 Год назад
@@MattMaranMotoring No I appreciate the response. For me -don't need AWD where I'm at (TX) - but I do want a fun daily that can my current ride into a project car. So not having the opportunity to test drive a GRC yet - that helps out. Having something that will be a driver's car as well as offering fun factor and practicality - thanks.
@pohump
@pohump Год назад
Ah, even after all these years... Subaru Derx
@dnice362
@dnice362 Год назад
And how much does this Corolla cost?
@larrybuttress2594
@larrybuttress2594 Год назад
How about road/wind noise? Would like to have heard something about that.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
I'll say that road noise didn't annoy me while driving, but it's a Corolla that's focused on being light, so road noise is certainly going to be more pronounced than a less sporty, larger car. From my memory, it's pretty similar to the Civic Type R. Integra Type S and Golf R definitely are quieter inside.
@larrybuttress2594
@larrybuttress2594 Год назад
@@MattMaranMotoring Thanks, Matt! Love your videos. So impressed that you personally respond to comments here.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
I always love responding and interacting!
@jeffreyarmstrong7518
@jeffreyarmstrong7518 Год назад
0:44 vintage Matt Maran fans love hearing this
@Ezero8
@Ezero8 Год назад
I got to drive and delivery the first GR Corolla (Core) we got at our office yesterday. It was fully loaded and the original sticker price had $9k markup but the client got it for $6k over, so $51k out-the door price. The guy put down half for downpayment. You won't find these selling for MSRP anywhere in the country because they're so rare.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Not true, commenters on here saying they got them for MSRP. Just gotta find an MSRP dealer, they exist.
@mark_845
@mark_845 Год назад
I bought mine for msrp lol, dealers just say that to justify the mark up
@TurboGuy979
@TurboGuy979 Год назад
Got my Heavy Metal Circuit @MSRP.
@motormusique
@motormusique Год назад
Did you have more fun with this or the CT4-V?
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Hmmm, that's tough. I'd say they were pretty equal amounts of fun just in different ways. Is the CT4-V double the fun for almost double the price though? Definitely not, but it's more luxurious and has other things like more power to justify the extra money.
@motormusique
@motormusique Год назад
@@MattMaranMotoring Thanks Matt! I dig your reviews. I actually meant the non Blackwing CT4V because it's kind of the same price as a GR Corolla but it's RWD
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
@@motormusique Oh gotcha, sorry I misunderstood! The CT4-V is a lot of car for the money and I brought it up in my Integra Type S review. Here I'd say at least as far as MSRPs go it's about $7k more comparably equipped (heated seats and wheel), so it's a better competitor with the others that start at higher prices. To answer your question though, compared to the CT4-V I had, I definitely had more fun in this, but the CT4-V seems like a strong buy if you won't miss the manual transmission and the extra fun of the adjustable torque split and lighter weight.
@motormusique
@motormusique Год назад
@@MattMaranMotoring thank you! Yeah unfortunately I have to make the choice between manual or rear drive, nothing exists with both that is practical and relatively affordable
@gene978
@gene978 Год назад
I would drive this a Prius to get the best MPG possible. 😂
@Sgt_Snacks
@Sgt_Snacks Год назад
Matt, GR86 or GR Corolla?
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
All depends on what you want and need. If you don't care about the AWD, 4 doors and hatch practicality, GR86 is a lot of fun too for at least $10k less.
@jamesnicol3831
@jamesnicol3831 9 месяцев назад
corolla reliability is another selling point and it is made in japan dealers need to be punished
@TheHybridGuy
@TheHybridGuy Год назад
Hey! How can I get in touch with you?
@jasoncee666
@jasoncee666 Год назад
Read the video description it has contact details.
@TheHybridGuy
@TheHybridGuy Год назад
@@jasoncee666 Thank you!
@georgemcunty6383
@georgemcunty6383 Год назад
I wonder if this car is special?
@CTF33
@CTF33 Год назад
After driving both, if you don't need AWD the Veloster N is still more fun to drive.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
I disagree, this handles much better than the Veloster N to me. In all other areas the Veloster N is pretty similar fun though (and in some ways more fun, like the exhaust), so for someone looking for something cheaper, Veloster N is a great choice.
@CTF33
@CTF33 Год назад
@MattMaranMotoring Sounds like you agree that if you don't need the AWD handling then the Veloster N is more fun.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
@@CTF33 No, I said it's similar fun. There's trade-offs. Veloster gives you a good exhaust, but the Corolla gives you more power and a more fun engine, and a better feeling manual.
@CTF33
@CTF33 Год назад
@MattMaranMotoring I prefer the DCT with paddles shifters and NGS push to pass button so it kinda narrows it down.
@Ezero8
@Ezero8 Год назад
After driving the GR Corolla, I would not give up my Veloster N. The GR had slightly better ride quality, heated steering wheel+seats, and a cool AWD system. But it's also lacking in other areas, like lack of center console/armrest, small trunk space, exhaust, and it costs $10k more. Not worth it since I don't need AWD for a "fun car."
@chasin4seth21
@chasin4seth21 Год назад
I really wish it was illegal in this country for dealers to mark up a car above MSRP. For $50k I would rather buy a used M2.
@chasin4seth21
@chasin4seth21 Год назад
Or even a Supra. There is no way a used supra should be the same price as this car.
@mengx94
@mengx94 Год назад
At least markups are illegal in South Africa
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Watch till the end, these are not $50k.
@gigatron2008
@gigatron2008 Год назад
Whaaaaat no mustang review this week?
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
Nope, no invite from Ford...
@BlackNAVYAmericanVET
@BlackNAVYAmericanVET 11 месяцев назад
It’s mark ups and low supply.
@timbrown9731
@timbrown9731 Год назад
It's just sad that Subaru (to me) slacked on the WRX, however. .... competition. ....is a great thing. ....maybe this will light the fire under SOAs ass .....and some other manufacturerss....
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
I would hope so but Subaru doesn’t seem to care about being competitive anymore in most cases.
@timbrown9731
@timbrown9731 Год назад
It's a 15k car with a 15k drivetrain.
@JonDaddy82
@JonDaddy82 Год назад
Either this car has a TON of road noise or your changed up your mic setup because I can barely hear you brother
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring Год назад
It all comes down to the roads I'm driving on. Lots of rough crappy roads around here. But it's a Corolla, so it's gonna have road noise too regardless of the road.
@kasio22B
@kasio22B Год назад
No moonroof and the big brick like center screen are the 2 dislikes about this hot hatch...
@r6mt09
@r6mt09 Год назад
There is no markup for these things
@gr6395
@gr6395 Год назад
2nd!
@frankm7222
@frankm7222 Год назад
Matt as a fellow moran Frank Jensen Moran is my name I come from a small island in canada called prince edward Island population 150,000 moran population 7 how about where ur from my fellow car enthusiasts
@Z3sty367
@Z3sty367 Год назад
I didn’t touch your dog, I don’t know how it got pregnant…
@carlocastillo1036
@carlocastillo1036 9 месяцев назад
Its about, how rich are you. This stuff is so classest. A bug eye wrx was in the 20s. Understandably I understand how the price has increased, its just inly for rich people or idiots that want to go into debt
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