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Myford ML7 3 Phase VFD Inverter Set-Up & Working 

Steve Jordan
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See my new 3 phase VFD inverter set-up working on the lathe with 1400 RPM 4 pole 3 phase 1HP motor, a 67mm Taperlock pulley and Fenner PowerTwist link v belts. The perfect match for the lathe.
EE THE BANGGOOD 220v VFD INVERTER BUYING LINK BELOW:-
2.2kw 220V Single Phase Inverter -- goo.gl/ZNYHxf
Wholesale Power Inverter -- goo.gl/i5LyXt

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@SteveJordan
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@danmoreton1788
@danmoreton1788 6 лет назад
Steve it is amazing what you have accomplished with a machine that was manufactured in 1949!
@Man-in-da-shed
@Man-in-da-shed 6 лет назад
As an aspiring machinist. You pave the way for me
@nectouxpierre4634
@nectouxpierre4634 6 лет назад
the 3 phases motor run really smooth. Now you can cut a thread with the motor. I bought the same VFD for my 3 hp lathe and I'm happy. I wired an external panel because the electric cabinet is in the body of the machine. Nice video & installation Pierre
@billmaguire6216
@billmaguire6216 6 лет назад
Hi Steve, I watch your channel and have made improvements to my small lathe with the tooling and mods you have done in your shop. I have improved my efficiency with my lathe, so thank you for sharing.
@derekwilkinson7939
@derekwilkinson7939 5 лет назад
I ordered the same motor ( as in your video) that arrived a few days ago. And the VFD arrived today. Now waiting for the pulley and belts. And then I’m in business. I’m a absolute newbie with a lot to learn. I’m looking forward to learning new skills.
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 5 лет назад
Hi Derek, That's great. It is a great set-up. I'm really pleased i went over to 3 phase with the vfd. Hope you get on well and really stick with it. A metal working lathe is one of the best things one can have, there is so much it can be used for. I learn something new every time I make something. Thanks for watching and commenting. Regards Steve
@bikerides
@bikerides 5 лет назад
Another great couple of videos showing everything we need to know about fitting a VFD.
@mathiasuriel6002
@mathiasuriel6002 3 года назад
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@xavierrichard8274 3 года назад
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@mathiasuriel6002
@mathiasuriel6002 3 года назад
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@mathiasuriel6002
@mathiasuriel6002 3 года назад
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@xavierrichard8274
@xavierrichard8274 3 года назад
@Mathias Uriel glad I could help xD
@tonypike5785
@tonypike5785 6 лет назад
hello ,my name is Tony pike in Asheville N C USA. I believe I have seen all your videos and I sure do enjoy watching, even my wife likes the way you talk! You always seam to come up with great ideas and ways of making things. Keep up the wonderful work.
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
Hi Tony...Thanks for watching and for your encouraging comments....Regards Steve
@jonathanjale5453
@jonathanjale5453 6 лет назад
Been watching your videos for awhile now, and learned a lot. I don’t have a lathe yet, but after watching your videos I think I’ll be purchasing one soon. Thanks, and keep up with your videos.
@1tarbaby1
@1tarbaby1 4 года назад
absolutely wonderful, I am in the process of a change over my self, mine is an old 1954 southbend (from a Tech School) lathe very similar to yours that I purchased from an old machinist teacher ( now passed away ) . it is old worn but i love it
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 4 года назад
Thanks, the Southbend lathes look excellent. I have seen them online but I have never had the chance to see one personally Regards Steve.
@WilliamTMusil
@WilliamTMusil 6 лет назад
That is one quiet lathe. Nice work.
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
Hi William, Thanks.....Yes I'm really pleased with the set-up now. The VFD and 3 phase motor has transformed the lathe into a really quiet machine...Regards Steve
@ronbianca1975
@ronbianca1975 7 месяцев назад
Good video Steve!
@rayfalcone6897
@rayfalcone6897 6 лет назад
great video Steve,very nice explanation,of how it all comes together,thank you for sharing.
@davemason6273
@davemason6273 6 лет назад
Nice work Steve. Only other thing I think I'd do is to add a bimetallic switch on the VFD heat sinc in line with the fans so they only cick in at about 50 degrees C. For your setup it would probably only cick in during this high extreme weather. Don't think you can do it in the software or you would have done so already. Regarding the high frequency, you're probably like me, getting on! but get a kid in it'll drive them mad. You can tune it higher though I believe.
@caemaridwn
@caemaridwn 6 лет назад
Great job Steve brought the Myford bang up to date. I've got everything to do my Littlejohn but getting round to doing it is another thing. I have a one HP motor, I thought it may lack torque but there's no problem with yours so happy days, Cheers mate.
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
Hi Robert Thanks....The motor has excellent torque and definitely won't be a problem. I put the same set-upon my Mini Lathe and I can drill with large drills without having to use a smaller pilot drill first.
@rc166honda
@rc166honda 6 лет назад
Great video Steve, VFD on my Drummond is looking a certainty now.
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
Hi James, Thanks it is well worth doing, just don't go too fast on the RPM's though if you have the same type of bearings as the Myford ML7. Regards Steve
@johnfry9010
@johnfry9010 6 лет назад
Another nice job Steve , Can't wait to convert my Grizzly .
@junglejammer1
@junglejammer1 6 лет назад
Very nice set-up, Steve. The thing with all of these VFD's is, there seems to be something missing. The wires are only held on be the screw terminals. It seems like they should be in a box with cable clamps of some sort, so that the wires can't accidentally, be pulled out from the terminal strip.
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
Yes i was thinking that when I wired it up. I have secured the cables to the plywood with cable ties to stop this happening..
@jorgescordamaglia1654
@jorgescordamaglia1654 6 лет назад
Hi Steve: As an addition to all the obvious advantages of running a 3PH motor controlled by a VFD, I noticed that your Myford runs far quieter than before for some reason. I was surprised that originally, made quite a racket for a belt driven lathe, no more now. You also have almost 3HP at your disposal. Congratulations.
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
Hi Jorge, Yes it was frustratingly noisy before. I think the Fenner belt on the main drive has made a significant difference, plus I spent a lot of time re-adjusting the belt guard. There's not much room for error with the guard, so one has to get it spot on to clear the belt. I found this so time consuming to get it right that I almost took the guard off, but I'm please I persevered now!
@MrArray1967
@MrArray1967 6 лет назад
Nice job Steve. Good inspiration.
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 6 лет назад
that is a sweet set up Steve ! AWESOME ..
@jessestrum
@jessestrum 5 лет назад
my ml7r is going to have all these mods cheers
@barryvenes1859
@barryvenes1859 6 лет назад
Hi Steve, Just a quick comment regarding the possible overheating of your motor due to slow speed running reducing your motor fan cooling ability. I am a retired electrician and during my working life I have had to deal with this problem arising on various vfd systems. By far the best solution after ensuring your vid is properly tuned to its motor is to fit a secondary forced air fan to the fan end of the motor.This fan is then switched on and off as required by thermistor temp control mounted on the motor. I have this system is an industry standard way of ensuring correct motor temperature during low speed running. The motor can still provide adequate cooling at higher running speeds without using the secondary fan because it sucks its air in past the secondary fan blades. Hope this is of help to you if you find it necessary in the future. Barry V Western Australia.
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
Hi Barry Thanks,... I don't think the motor will get that hot to worry about for what I do as very slow running of the motor for long periods of time isn't something I require. I never do batch work and usually only make one-off components. Therefore any slow running of the motor would be minimal, maybe only a few minutes.. If I was doing thread-cutting though, I would just position an ordinary 220v household table-top fan directed onto the motor at the back of the machine, so there's no problem. Your idea would be good though for others that may require slow motor running for long periods of time. Regards Steve
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
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@thenet0120002
@thenet0120002 6 лет назад
You should run a separate fan that is not influenced by the motor because if you run a thread any time this motor could over heat. I would fan cool or recirculate water to keep you motor cool at low RPM just a suggestion. I did notice the temp went up 50 c in the moments you ran it. Just a suggestion . Love your videos!
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
Hi I think it only went up to 20c or thereabouts. It is really hot in the uk at the moment and working in the shed is unbearable in the day. I don't think the motor will get that hot to worry about in normal circumstances and very slow running of the motor for long periods of time isn't something I would need to do for the things I make. So there is no problem here.
@tobyw9573
@tobyw9573 6 лет назад
Thanks, Steve. Great installation and handbook, but where is the footage of you making big fat blue chips? Part of the reason for motor changes is more power! :)
@philiprogers5772
@philiprogers5772 6 лет назад
Nice job.
@alanroberts7943
@alanroberts7943 4 года назад
Hi steve, Found out why. P06 was on default 100hz operating speed changed to 45hz and now top operating speed 1016. Stops me accidentally going beyond. Anyway thanks again and looking forward to remote if you get time.
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 4 года назад
Hi Alan that's great I think I altered mine when I got it. I'm not bothering with a remote as I have my VFD situated directly above the ML7. I wired the remote switches on my Mini Lathe VFD though. It's the same set up, just a different box, so the terminal wiring is the same. I did a video on that one showing the connections. Regards Steve
@donnykiofetzis5775
@donnykiofetzis5775 2 года назад
how do you put up with the hi pitched sound. it will drive me mad
@Xynudu
@Xynudu 6 лет назад
Hi Steve. It runs very nicely. I was interested to see/hear if the inverter squeals. Some setups on YT with the same BG unit are very noisy, but yours seems dead quiet. Good job. Cheers Rob
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
Hi Rob, Thanks...yes I was surprised at how quiet it is. I was nearly put off from changing over, after hearing some of the set-ups on RU-vid. They sound like dry screeching roller bearings!!! I bought one of those inverter arc welders you reviewed, it is fantastic and so much easier to learn arc welding with than the older welders, that I tried to use in the past. Regards Steve
@Xynudu
@Xynudu 6 лет назад
Hi Steve, The screeching may have something to do with the way it's wired up or the settings. I don't know much about them really. I couldn't put up with that noise. I knew you would like that little welder. It's easily the best of the three I've tried/reviewed. So easy to weld with. I gave the one that I reviewed to the Bro-Inlaw. He only wants it for light gauge work, and it should be great for that. Regards Rob
@LiamOGogain
@LiamOGogain 4 года назад
I hope someone can help. Great video. I’ve purchased the same AT1 model. I’ve connected single phase 230v and UVW wires to motor, having rewired fro star to delta a connection. When I apply power to unit there is no response, no indication on display. I’ve checked and confirmed 230 v at the L-N terminals. I can’t see any external reset buttons etc. I’m presuming I don’t need to make any connections at the 12 point small terminal strip. Maybe I just have a dud unit. Has anyone any advice?
@thechipwelder1253
@thechipwelder1253 5 лет назад
This video was really helpfull to me. I am trying to build my own low budget lathe, with minium experience on lathes or turning. Videos like these where you get to see quality old lathes a bit closer is such a good inspiration. That myford ML7 is in my opinion one of the most beutiful lathes ever built, seems to have the perfect size for a hobbyist aswell. I cant afford one at the moment, (2,5 years left in university with student economy ) But would be intresting to know anyways, roughly how much a myford ml7 in good condition would go for? If steve or any other machinist here knows? Would also be nice to know the shipping cost for a lathe of this size betwen countries in europe if somone has experience of that aswell?
@MultiBadlad
@MultiBadlad 6 лет назад
three months ago i replaced the motor on my 1953 ML7 after the shaft inexplicably snapped inside the motor just past the first bearing . With the motor i also replaced the forward reverse drum switch and added an E stop button. Then i saw your videos on the VFD system . Now im depressed . Could have done the same to mine as you have done to yours . It would have been a much better system. maybe i will see about a conversion to VFD a bit later next year . Looks like it may be time to upgrade your shed next to a bigger one. Must be getting a bit crowded.
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
You could convert over and then sell the your existing motor set-up like I did. I like a very small shed as everything that is used is very close at hand. Anything I don't use often is kept in storage bins outside. The working area only has the things one needs to use often, It is a very good system of manufacturing..something I learned in the aerospace industry....'A work cell' as they were called, which cuts down on a lot wasted time and space.
@MultiBadlad
@MultiBadlad 6 лет назад
yes it looks like i will be selling the new motor and upgrading to a 3phase and vfd . I enjoy watching your videos Steve , and have used some of your ideas on my own Myford . Keep up the good work .
@andypandy9931
@andypandy9931 6 лет назад
I like the setup Steve. I have just ordered the inverter and the motor, identical to yours on your recommendation. I would like the tachometer as well. Please will you send me the link.
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
Hi Andy That's great. I used this one TACHOMETER UNIT, See:- goo.gl/6yGjCv Also check out the listing page for this one and scroll down for the wiring diagram. I just bought a small plastic box from Maplin's to mount the unit in, Maplin's is gone but I'm sure they must sell some boxes on Ebay Regards Steve
@andypandy9931
@andypandy9931 6 лет назад
Steve Jordan Steve thank you, I have just ordered that too, once I could understand what the site wanted me to do. Keep up the video's they are great. Hopefully I can get my ML7 running as smoothly as yours.
@andypandy9931
@andypandy9931 6 лет назад
Steve Jordan Hello Steve I have received the same motor and inverter as you and followed your excellent instructions I setting it up on the bench. All works well as you said. One thing has me a bit puzzled and that is with the instructions for the inverter because there is no P25 mentioned as there was on yours.
@grzegorzkubiak1438
@grzegorzkubiak1438 3 года назад
in what numbers of parameters should I enter how many Kw and how many amperes are the motor? My manual does not have this, and neither is the P25 instruction
@bonkersscience732
@bonkersscience732 3 года назад
Hi Steve, I realise this is a few years old now but did you ever connect up an emergency stop? I have the same VFD and the resistive braking on the emergency stop has to be seen to be believed. I have a problem with mine at the moment that the suppliers are looking into (the firmware has missed out the programming for ES and reverese jog) but I'm hoping that will be resolved. These are great little VFDs. Thanks for the video. Will
@fareshammoudi9187
@fareshammoudi9187 4 года назад
Thanks for the video, can the lath go as slow as 1RPM?
@mattsbitsnbobsworkshop
@mattsbitsnbobsworkshop 6 лет назад
nice video, just a bit worried that you are running over the stated top speed for the ml7, will it be ok?
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
Hi The top recommended speed for the ML7 is 1070 RPM. This is for the white metal bearings and soft spindle. Mine has a hardened spindle with phosphor bronze bearings, so I do reckon it could go faster. I rarely do any turning above 1000 RPM though.
@thebeststooge
@thebeststooge 6 лет назад
All of the 220/240v people are too lucky with these sorts of things. Heck, I can't even find a decent (mini) Chinese lathe for under 2k.
@alanroberts7943
@alanroberts7943 4 года назад
Hi steve just finished doing exactly as you on ml7 same vfd same 67dia pulley same tec motor happy, BUT i am getting top speed 1500 ??. Any idea's why. (Never use at this).
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 4 года назад
Hi Alan, I never really use anything over 1000 RPM on the ML7. The ML7 only had a top speed of around 600 RPM when it was first made. If you have the ML7 with the white metal spindle bearings there is a chance of the un-hardened spindle seizing if they are used at speeds over 1000. I have phosfur bronze bearings with a hardened spindle, but I still play it safe. There is no real advantage of having anything faster anyway. Regards Steve
@alanroberts7943
@alanroberts7943 4 года назад
@@SteveJordan thanks steve. I would never use over 1000 The thing i was saying is i thought you said the top speed you could achieve is 1060 .Where i could achieve 1500 using identical parts. Same set up, same machine (1978 myford ml7). Just wondering why.
@hdadb
@hdadb 6 лет назад
Steve, Excellent job! I'm contemplating changing my lathe and would like to know the details of your motor - where did you get it from and how much did it cost?
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-PHASE-ELECTRIC-MOTOR-0-37KW-TO-11KW-1400RPM-2800RPM-2-POLE-4-POLE-ALUMINIUM/191770300135?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=490794456079&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
@abcjohn53
@abcjohn53 5 лет назад
Hi STEVE I noticed that the display on the inverter was showing HTZ can you programme it to display RPM john
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 5 лет назад
No you can't do that. I use the Chinese digital tachometers, a very low cost unit that is set up separately on the lathe. Regards Steve
@lbernhardt100
@lbernhardt100 4 года назад
Hi Steve Did you plug your inverter into a nominal 220 plug socket or hardwire it to the mains Lorne
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 4 года назад
Hi Lorne yes I plugged it into a normal 220v socket. Regards Steve
@tralfazy
@tralfazy 6 лет назад
Hey Steve. Good one! Don't you find that those link belts make your lathe have a rumbling sound? I tried one on my Craftsman 10F lathe and I was disappointed to find out that the new link-belt that I had used made the lathe noisier. When I put a V-belt back on it instead it quieted down a lot. (no more rumbling). It seems like every link in the link-belt makes a small noise as it hits the pulley. I used a link-belt from Harbor Freight. I ended up swapping the link-belt from the lathe with the v-belt on my drill press which doesn't get hours of continuous use like the lathe does so I can deal with the added noise on that.
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
Hi Gary, was it an actual Fenner Powertwist belt, made in the USA? The same as the one I have shown?
@tralfazy
@tralfazy 6 лет назад
Hey Steve. The link belt that Harbor Freight sells is the Jason Industrial ACCU-Link. It LOOKs the same as the Fenner Powertwist but maybe it's inferior. Not sure. Some people are saying that all the link belts come from the same Chinese manufacturer. Maybe the Fenner would be quieter. I'll use the link belt only on the inside belt so I don't have to disassemble the spindle assembly to install it and use a v-belt on the outer pullys so it's quieter. I get a lot out of your videos. Thanks for making them.
@sanjeawaut
@sanjeawaut 6 лет назад
Very nice, Steve...!! I found 3 phase BLDC , 500W motor from scrap yard. Can I use this type of controller with my motor...?
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
Hi Sanjeawa, I really don't know. Maybe someone else will answer this question?
@sanjeawaut
@sanjeawaut 6 лет назад
Steve Jordan Hello Steve, Thank you for your kind reply. Can someone tell me how to add photo to this comment section...?
@berndmuehle1952
@berndmuehle1952 5 лет назад
Hi, found the belt belt in EBAY. How long the belt you bought?
@najindustrolizovanij
@najindustrolizovanij 6 лет назад
very nice mod! can it go higher than 60hz to get biger rpm range?
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
I could put it up but the Myford manual specifies a top speed of 1070rpm for the spindle bearing type. Although I'm not sure whether that is for the white metal Babbitt bearings. Mine does have an upgraded hardened spindle and phosphor bronze bearings, but I rarely go above 800rpm anyway. Regards Steve
@jimb1783
@jimb1783 6 лет назад
Is damp in the shed a concern for the VFD?
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
Hi Jim no it won't be a problem for me. I put a thick construction plywood with good quality thick felt on the metal roof, plus insulated it on the inside. It would have to be really extreme weather to get any condensation now!
@redaxis4698
@redaxis4698 5 лет назад
does the torque affected when running low speed?
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 5 лет назад
The torque is very good on low speed
@44Celt
@44Celt 5 лет назад
did you fit an external stat /stop switch from the VFD after?
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 5 лет назад
Hi No I havn't got round to that yet. I have got all the switch buttons. I have been too busy with othet things and have got used to it like it is. Maybe sometime soon.
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 5 лет назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-euLuaY8wZ40.html
@burneyrobinson7668
@burneyrobinson7668 6 лет назад
Steve - How smooth are the link belt compared to a regular v-belt?
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
It is very good. I think the Fenner Powertwist belts are the best belts I have come across so far. Also it makes it so easy not having to buy and fit the regular type.
@MarkATrombley
@MarkATrombley 6 лет назад
That motor temperature seems high.
@SteveJordan
@SteveJordan 6 лет назад
It is very hot weather here at the moment, a bit of a heatwave, so that is why it is high.
@howardosborne8647
@howardosborne8647 4 года назад
Hi Steve, having now watched both your videos on VFD for the lathe I have a question. Would it be feasible to wire in an auxiliary micro switch and mount it on the lathe ways to stop the chuck for automated screw cutting? Howard
6 лет назад
Your Myford lathe is too pretty to use.
@TERRYB0688
@TERRYB0688 4 года назад
Steve, have you an e mail address id like to send you some pictures
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