Comments like these are why youtube is such a dangerous place. By ignoring logic and rationality we allow our irrational imagination to take hold, now as fun as that may be, it is the most dangerous place of all.
If you want some progressive revelation context and reflection I recommend Divine Principle which might offer some further aspects to interpretation. Thanks for the intersting well researched commentary. Some things transcend time. Interesting input from Rogan's interviews related to psychoactive wines and "beer". I immediately thought of water and the idea of "living water" or the water of life. Salt, fermented beverages and salt were the most sacred things carried in a bucket although some ancient traditions that practiced child or animal sacrifice may have carried other things in a bucket. 👍 I've subscribed so I'm interested in your other content👍
Were you born in the bronze age? Because if you were, I have a ton of questions! Facts are better than guessing ... good reasoning helps you avoid falling for questionable presentations of the ever-marauding con-man! You really should read 'Elmer Gantry'! :)
@@JP-ic2ze You mean I shouldn't buy some hype just because somebody heard voices, had a weird dream or read golden plates from the bottom of a hat allegedly? Clutch the pearls.
This is interesting, the "bags" are buckets! The next question is, what was in the buckets and why were they so popular? When they have their little buckets, it seems they typically have a pinecone in the other hand or are next to some plant. Could this mean those who seeded, creators, planters, etc? Also, it's good to know what experts have determined, but why put people down who point out other possibilities? As a society, we often don't even understand our own historical context 2 or 3 decades back (even with people around who lived through those times), how can we purport to be so certain about cultures half a world away, thousands of years ago?
I don't like the smugness of the presenter main stream archaeology has invested entire careers on their point of view and don't want to hear other theories The learned scientist has been proven wrong many times from Bretz and his floods to the dinosaur impact they are always kicking and screaming at any alternative view and putting down the people who promote conflicting ideas.
To be fair, after running the Ancient Architects channel for about a year, the guy did say he had a realization and wanted to move away from the ancient "mystery" theme to focus more on academic, fact-based news, research, and archeological discoveries. I do subscribe to that channel and pleased to say he has made good on his word. For a lay person to make that sort of transformation in terms of credibility, is pretty commendable.
@@WorldofAntiquity Actually, this video response may have been the one that was the impetus for him to change his ways. The timing is just about right now that i think of it. Id consider that a success story. Keep doing the great work youre doing countering misinformation, it will resonate with people 👍 Especially when they realize the facts and hardcore academic resarch is way more exciting than all of that new age pseudo history noise.
@@WorldofAntiquity You, on the other hand, take pride in deriding other History Hobbyists. You are nothing more than a HOBBYIST also. I watched this video to learn your theory about the bags, which you claim to have "SOLVED". What I learned about the bags in from this video is that you think Ancient Architects is full of shit. 😡 I learned nothing of the bags except that they are containers. Deep. So very deep. I feel ENLIGHTENED! LOL! 🙃
@@Itchypantz I'm not a hobbyist. I'm a professional. And if you missed what the objects are, they are explained in detail here, including how we know: 1:33
These are also depicted in Gobekli Tepe. Whatever we want to call them, bags, buckets, to me , they're represent the Elixir of Life, which is Water, the Precious Water. The cone is the seed, together, they bring forth all life. The tree depicts all strands of life on the earth. No water No life !
Remember that many couldn't read, symbolism and mnemonic stories were the way knowledge was disseminated so the buckets represent much more than our word 'bucket' means to us. Without rewatching I think he says these are water buckets, water also has much more meaning; something similar to 'the pulse of life'. We may be clutching at straws but the straws are there ;)
I think it is just more fertility protection worship. "Please, divine beings, make our crops, livestock and women fertile" or "Thank you, divine beings, for making our crops, livestock and women fertile."
Can I just say, as a boring engineer who has recently taken an interest in ancient archaeology because I enjoy the sense of mystery, you're really taking the fun out of things!
How have you SOLVED the mystery of the The bucket or handbag? How do you account for the proliferation of this same image found in the ruins of ancient Turkish temples, in decorations of the Maori of New Zealand, and in crafts made by the Olmecs of Central America. Also found at Gobekli Tepe which is dated 9500 BCE?
No where in this video does the narrator claim to explain the 'buckets' in all cultures. Only in the Sumerian culture has he addressed this point. imo I wouldn't have been so sure that these are indeed buckets, but good evidence is presented nonetheless. This is also the first critical evidence based analysis I have seen anywhere. Much more credible then the nonsense spewed by ancient architects!
I think it's a means to demonstrate farming as a technological feat, today akin to a new iphone release or humans demonstrating computerised DNA manipulation or higgs boson perhaps an image of an atomic bomb detonating. A common means everyone to know as a big deal but I to do wonder how each of as you mention in an overall geographical sense all turn up with such and on the same planet within the universe and all within a kinda tight period is a wonder to me. -it's easy to say something went on but what, blimey one day we'll find out all sorts about how we came to be or even how we came to be here.
@@37CCR I'm a believer of this knowledge now after an out of body experience. I separated from my body and mind and reunited with my soul that day. Higher consciousness is a real thing that I feel is brushed under the rug in our times. I wondered about the so called handbags so thank you 🙏🤍
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🧳 The myth of the Sumerian handbags has been a head-scratcher for researchers, but the images depict buckets known as "dalu" in Assyrian, used for drawing water. 01:19 📚 There are various interpretations of the handbags, but researchers have identified them as water-drawing buckets based on epigraphs and archaeological findings. 03:37 🏛️ The figures holding the buckets are referred to as "up kalo," semi-divine guardians who ward off evil, and they are strongly associated with deities from the Sumerian era. 08:25 🌳 The sacred tree depicted in the images likely symbolizes the fertility of Assyria, and it's not conclusively linked to the Kabbalah's Tree of Life or the pineal gland. 15:32 💫 The attempt to link the images to Indian philosophy and the concept of enlightenment lacks evidence and is based on unsubstantiated assumptions. 18:31 🌍 Ancient Architects' attempt to connect the up kalo images with other cultures like Greco-Roman mystery schools lacks solid evidence and fails to establish a meaningful connection.
In hindi, we use the word DOLLU, for a small unconcovered vessel with handles. A Dollu is used to carry a small amount of water, or milk for short distances. The water may be used to wash hands, or feet.
In India they are referred to as lotas and carried by hermits/rishis. Actually the water they carry is energized by having a panchloha ( 5 metal ) statue immersed in it and exposed to sunlight for 9 consecutive days.Such water increases a person's longevity.
Actually ...yes...it was proved by a secret experiment carried out at Berkeley...the people who were given the water casually were monitored secretly for over 50 years...most lived beyond 100 years..
There is still mystery contained in these carvings. The "Dallu" are indeed buckets and the figures are regenerating their tree of life by manually pollinating it. The blooms are Roses of the Goddess Ishtar of Mesopotamia. The tree of life represents their astronomical knowledge ( hence it develops as time progresses and their system changes). The roses were native to Persia but they only produced the wild five petaled version and they required to adorn their Goddess with eight or thirteen petal versions in white and red colors. This is why we see the act of manual pollination of the blooms since it is the only way to produce roses with more than 5 petals ( early bio engineering). The Tree of Life represents the star constellations that made up their current star catalog, with useful planets featured above the tree. The roses were used each year at the AKITU festival to Ishtar and the city states ruler who were ritually married each year at the second equinox (the time when roses are in full bloom).
Oooohh wow! I sure do like those who know what they are talking about. These facts help, it lines up with that sacred geometry they found in livi things and the patterns where each thing had a crystalline pattern. I sure do love this site. It made so much sense, but its lives like yours that put in great puzzle pieces.
Rosa gallica is a wild rose and it has five OR MORE petals in the wild variety. It does however sometimes produce double corollas. The propagation of this trait is one of the first documented cases of people breeding for a specific trait. The excess petals in ornamental roses are through the double flower, and you are correct in that these varieties must be cultivated by humans as they have lost their natural ability to reproduce thanks to the double flowering. You are wrong though in the way one would propagate these roses. It must be done through cuttings. The flowers are entirely sterile.
@@carriekelly4186 Naw, it could still be. I did a little further research and sometimes double flowered plants can be pollinated manually. It depends on how much of the reproductive organs have been converted to petal production. I wasnt aware it was along a spectrum and not a all or nothing change. Also there are still natural varieties left that do fine without human intervention. The rose family is weird and just about any statement about them is bound to have caveates and exceptions. Just look at the loquat. Its leaves, flowers, size and morphology. Oddball and there are lots of others.
Exactly. And apparently the mighty kings of old will bring it to you, and also a pail of water to drink. Because everybody knows that' what kings do: symbolically bring about one liter (judging from the size of the "pail") of water to nourish the people and the land. Sorry, World of Antiquity: I'm not buying this pat answer.
When you have the actual buckets exactly as displayed in the images, it's kind of hard to argue against. Please keep in mind that mythology doesn't have to be realistic and usually isn't.
Given the very assiduous and enthusiastic way in which you debunk, it is a bit surprising that you do not go the whole hog and make it clear that these are NOT "buckets" in any conventional sense of the term ("for drawing water"), as they are in reality and in art decorated artistically and carried by VIPs. You say yourself that they are fashioned out of precious metals. Most obviously, these are consistently the width of, and not much difference in size from, the hands which carry them. That actually begs the question of whether the carriers are giants! Grist for the Ancient Aliens mill, then??? While the Met Museum buckets do not prove so easy to look up, Bonhams had such a bronze Assyrian "bucket" (their word too) up for sale (not too costly!!). Indeed decorated, and associated with a helpful description that the object is 11 cm tall. This merely confirms that these are indeed hand-sized, which makes it a bit of a stretch - literally - to have them playing any realistic, everyday role in the "drawing of water". For CEREMONIAL purposes maybe, but then that is no "bucket" in the mind of any normal person. If you are going to tell it straight, then tell it straight. These are no everyday, well-known, utilitarian, familiar objects as you are suggesting so determinedly by resorting to the common-or-garden concept of "bucket".
So you're claiming that common Folk that lived in a city state didn't have containers to carry water. I suppose it was only the gods and the nobility that drink water right or had access to containers to carry it in. And I don't think the Artisans would be too concerned about getting their exact dimensions right of a water bucket. But they are Bringers of life if you think about it so they probably were considered special. but that doesn't mean they weren't common. Or that they had special powers. And if they did don't you think they would have mentioned that somewhere in all these writings that we've discovered from that time period?
If ... And that's a big if... If they are simply buckets.. why depict it? How many kings or presidents have ever had their portrait painted or picture taken holding a water hose or beer?
Yes I agree with you, in India there are Hindu Priests who carry these small buckets with holy water which they sprinkle on the altar as well as Lingams so what you are saying is absolutely true
What I respect about Ancient Architects is that on several occasions, he has admitted to being wrong about his initial interpretation or explanation when he learns of new data that challenge his earlier belief and he gives credit to those that provide a better, more accurate answer.
Easter egg. Telluric current. Where groundwater splits. Static charge focusus to point. Copper or granite bags/buckets. Either deflection or direction. Dowsing. Similar principle. But now we use 2 alu rods thats clamp or move apart. Easter egg hunting. Equinox. Close full moon. Combined center of gravity. Causes mist. And in mist you can see the waves... dowsing can be done anytime. Seen from machupichu, the snakes depicted on the corners on the walls suggest a high static environment.
Not this guy. He thinks his shit don't stink! In every video, he claims victory over other History Hobbyists. The title of this video is "Handbags SOLVED". The only thing I learned about the handbags is that this guy doesn't like Ancient Architects! :o
Ohh you hit another big fact great spot. Today, the error goes on unchallenged even when it was long solved. The fact is there were very deep facts emerging. The whole are physics, and these engineers knew it. Picture all the metallurgy knowledge. Then look at the facts they taught one another. Look at how they traveled the globe collecting knowledge. There were priest gathering all over the planet. Many rocks were erected as a monument to learning, and it was also their religion to learn, and it was a sacred act where lying meant an error was in place, and had to be clarified perfectly. The best is part is they did not err as they put string physics on a line of one subject in place. That is a flux fluidity that leads to numbers like Avogadro numbers, and other oddball numbers. Then there is spooky physics actions, they saw all this existed, and had no words like ours for it all, but they had glyph which told us they understood the nature even without words, and the staircase, and the lattice, and the rest front to back in a crystalline pattern. See the many glyph, texts, writing, and proper explain on Maat. It did not err that I know of.
@@ItchypantzIIRC they actually have an amicable relationship, and AA has directly referenced Dr Miano's worked, and is humble enough to admut mistakes, and then update his models based on new information put out by experts like Dr Miano.
I found your video thought provoking. I have been independently studying the Sumerians, and what they wrote so far as the translations goes. Id like to give you some of my thoughts on your presentation. From my research it I found that the Apkallu are directly associated with the Sumerian god Enki/Ea. The seven sages were created by Enki to bestow to mankind the moral codes of civilization through those strange things the called the 'ME'. The first one is called Adapa/Oannes and was said to have been the builder of the first city Eridu. And the 7 are also linked to the first 7 kings from the Sumerian Kings list. In the stories 'Enki and the World Order, and Enki's Journey to Nibru, he calls them priests. So in fact they are directly connected to the Annunaki. There is even a similarity with the story of the Watchers and Enoch. As the Watchers were said to have brought the same type of knowledge to humanity. And in both stories things go bad. I agree that there is some murky waters here as far as being able to make certain connections but its does make one ponder. Its obvious that we approach these stories and beings differently, but I respect your views. I am of the belief that these were real flesh and blood beings. And Not as you say were created by humans to explain this and that. The Sumerians are very specific about the fact that their gods were not concepts but real. As far as the tree and the buckets and the cones go, I have a hard time with your explanation of what is going on. It seems to me that to take the time to make such art and images they are going to no doubt mean something very important. Not just some date palms and gardeners. If you take the time to pour over the many images of cylinder seals, the tree is repeatedly shown in various styles shown alongside with winged disks and other strange things. Anyhoos this is getting long, so 'Im gonna watch part two. If I think of anything else I ll write it later. cheers.
I didn't mean to imply that the Assyrians thought the apkallu were "just some gardeners" and the trees were "just some date palms." These had great religious significance to the Assyrians. I tried to convey that, but maybe I didn't do as good of a job of that as I thought. On the other side of the coin, it could be said that if the apkallu were mere flesh and blood creatures, this would not be as significant to the Assyrians as if the apkallu were divinities. And how realistic is the idea that there were actual flesh and blood creatures that had human bodies with bird heads?
@@WorldofAntiquity Must say that it was implied by your tone, although I guess it's pretty much the standard tone when you are debunking someone elses speculations? I take Cosmo's points and his obvious deep informed interest in the subject deserves respect. For my own ill informed speculation and following Cosmo's thoughts perhaps.....if I were to invent gods with great powers come to bestow knowledge on diminutive beings, I would invision them with more than just a water bucket and pine cone as symbols of their power. Lightening bolt or flameing sword perhaps. But then maybe the Assyrians were a peaceable lot? If Cosmo is correct and the Sumerians didnot invent their gods and were in fact real, then possible explainations at this time offer us few choices. 1) Shamanism/visitation or emisary sent from God/spacemen. I would pick shamanism or visionary experience with or without drugs. Pretty well documented throughout history. Plenty of popular research going on at present where those entities encountered are seen and experienced as being 'real' and impart pretty usful information apparently. 2) Atlanteans/Cataclysmic event/spacemen. Plato wasn't known as a liar and there are flood myths in every ancient culture. The evidence for a comet strike is now more readily accepted as the possible cause for the ending of the last ice age. The result a sudden melting of the northern icecaps, massive flooding and sea rises wiping out without trace an advanced civilisation. The survivors then pass on their knowledge to less developed humans. Worth more than a dismissive glance I would have thought. 3) Mistranslation of Sumerian texts? 4) Spacemen...er Dogons etc, don't want to go there! Whatever, it's all pretty fascinating I think. Thanks!
I've read your guy's texts and I'm just happy I got to see an exchange of knowledge and wisdom from differing views without the rhetoric of conversation delving into the personal perspectives of each other. The hand bags of ancient times seem a bit more enigmatic in that, correct me if I'm wrong, all cultures of pre/post deluvian world depicted the hand bags in carvings everywhere. I would have thought that the ancients would have said exactly what they are some where but they did not. Which lead me to a big question. How do you get someone to understand that you want a drink without speaking/ language? Then it dawned on me that today we humans have a book that is universal in all languages and can be read by anyone with the knowledge to do so. This takes a very special person to read this manuscript as those who do are blind. Yes brail. The written language of the blind. Now he is my question. Could the bag in every culture have the same meaning read by those who are in fact blind? Is there a different meaning if we take this into account. Now, I cant say that ancient brail and modern would be the same but how else do you describe something to someone without the use of words? How can you paint a picture for them to see? Well you not only write but draw the truth that they may in fact see. What is the bag, could it be a bucket, sure. Could be a seed bag, sure. But I personally believe it to be key to humanity. Too many cultures depict the bag and so many have very little to say about them, hence why I believe the meaning to be a blind man's answer.
Uh, they were more than just showing "date palms and gardeners". It is representing the origins of agriculture. How would YOU represent the change from hunter gatherers to cities, with food production? Being able to grow abundant crops means understanding the life cycle of the crops, learning how to propagate them, selective breeding which makes domesticated crops out of former wild plants. Now add in scheduled watering, which becomes irrigation. These symbols are showing the flowering of civilization, via learning agriculture. You should also understand "personification". That is giving natural things and processes human attributes. Think "mother nature". Now do you think modern people think some goddess like being is controlling the wild ecology? No. But we can refer to mother nature is a sort of symbol, and simplification of that ecology. So you should understand that personification is a human thing, and there are countless examples. Let me ask you this- do you believe in a tall slim man in a tip hat and red white and blue clothing as a real being? Uncle Sam? Or is that a personification of our country, an easy way to show the country in images? You should seriously think about that. Arguing that there were real fish-headed manlike beings that brought civilization to this set of ancients is a biiiiig stretch. Much much less possible than personified agriculture and civilization. Or do you think there is a slim white guy with red white and blue clothing that strides the world stage??
Ok they look like a bucket or a bag. Why are the same bags depicted on the stones of Gobekli Tepe. I think they are bags containing genetic samples of all forms of life. This may be the arc that housed all life to be saved during the flood or cataclysm. Some of the Sumerians maybe used the devices to make warriors of all kinds. Look at all the weird creatures depicted in the carvings. I cant believe they went thru the trouble of carving into stone a bucket. I guess I am saying whatever they are they had to be of some importance. Like you stated they are found all over the ancient world.
Aren't these buckets also seen in artifacts of many other remote ancient cultures that, so far as we know, had no contact with the Sumerians? The Mayans, for example. I was hoping you would offer an explanation for this.
Buckets are universal, just like rods or clubs, swords, sacks, and many other items. These particular buckets are significant because of their context and the collection of other objects that accompany them. Other cultures can depict buckets without having any relationship to these buckets.
How about the handbag being present in carvings that include the being with what appears to be a helmet, in what appears to be some sort of travel capsule. The carving from Tabasco Mexico that is at the museum in Mexico City has the bag resting carefully at his feet. I get the feeling that it was a TOOL, or a bag that contained a very important tool....not purely symbolic.
@@lowell62 Bags and buckets are universal. South American art of buckets doesn’t have any relationship to Sumerian art of buckets. That’s like saying that every culture that depicts drinking cups is connected.
I always thought that the “bags” (as I knew them up till now) were for carrying something precious (actually or symbolically) So to find out they are metal vessels for carrying water still aligns with them carrying something precious, after all what is more precious than water? It makes sense to show it in the hands of the gods.
Carrying water was one amongst many thing the "bucket" were for. The mystery is why the seven sages of antiquity(as they were called even then) have them here? This symbol is found in south america,india and anitolia. It's meaning goes WAY deeper than a mere ancient canteen...
It's sarcasm m8....water bucket= ancient canteen... Was a joke...taking the position they aren't full of just water... Another point is...just because this guy says "water bucket" doesn't mean he's right. That's an interpretation of the image...actually in the ancient world water was carried and stored almost exclusively in pottery(and shaped way different btw). The pottery would sweat and evaporation kept the water much cooler than metal containers. So in my opinion his "pragmatic" approach to an explanation here leaves out the painfully obvious esoteric symbolism these bags or buckets represent.
@@celtoscythae8911 ✌️Ok accept your joke, although it didn’t come across as that, but that’s text only issue. Yes I agree that to find out the “bag” is just a metal water carrier is disappointing, which is why I mentioned the preciousness of water (which it is). I do agree the artwork is totally symbolic, so whatever the bags really held even if this guy is right, the full symbolism has not been fully discovered and may never be ☹️
At the onset of civilization when farming was in its infancy it’s easy for us to assume irrigation is needed. But back then ya know it may have taken a generation or ten before somebody finally said “let’s move the water to the plant instead of waiting for rain”. It would have been a giant leap forward and led to the saving of countless lives. The simple act of watering a plant would have been held in reverence for hundreds of years potentially.
They were date palm trees covered in grapevines. This is still done today. Bee hives are set up though the date palm groves and vineyards as well. These agrarian societies still use hand pollination methods today that have been handed down since the most ancient of times.
I think the guy who runs Ancient Architects has good and genuine intentions. He corrects himself if he finds out or believes his original assessments were wrong. And he also discounts a lot of the advanced civilization people.
Agreed, and honestly.... It's so easy to get excited when shown images without much context other than bag/purse plus their location of origin. They made me be like; this can't be coincidence right and there my mind goes wondering. Especially being an enthousiast without academic background, it's hard to filter the information. Asking oneself questions like: How likely is it that around the globe, independent from eachother both create artifacts that allow them to carry more at once? I'm a bit embarrassed that I got excited that easily in considering there was a connection there other that apart from eachother, humans have been pretty inventive. Now back to shut up and calculate 🙂
@@WorldofAntiquity Could it be representative of farming, so plants in one hand and water in the other, so giving farming knowledge, experts and sages in farming who are giving their agricultural wisdom? Seems reasonable
Really excellent presentation. This symbology has been very mysterious to me as well, and the 'handbags' have been identified in multiple sites around the ancient world. Your contention that the water buckets and pine cone were likely used in polination and were a reference to practices of agriculture makes a lot of sense. These figures (advisors, benefactors) have been alleged to have travelled around the world to educate mankind in the necessities of civilization.
They are not pine cones. The Date Palm tree that produces the fruit is female by nature. The pollinator tree is male. Naturally, the male would pollinate the female tree via the transfer of pollen on the wind. The figures in the images are manually pollinating the female tree with the seed pod of the male tree. It is commonly practiced in the middle east to this day.
Because there has to be empirical. If there is not, there will be errors. So, we look at the facts; these are engineers, they did not have technology but nature is the very best professor of them all, and to ancients that was easier. Hunting is a massive science, and fishing also. If you learn these, you see all mankind had sciences in the hand, and also making an arrow, and also using magnetic sciences for healing, and more. Then you take decades of tracing facts. Then that has to not have been tainted by a university, they are making money, and printing old books. Go as high as pristine, regular people find the highest truth always in history, and science. Then know that they had to make a desert fertile. So, it is not a pine cone, it is the date palm. The priests and engineers are giving lode to having fertilized a dead place. That lead to military AFTERLIFE sciences. They wanted it all, and so we today have afterlife is sciences. But that has yet to come out online, but it will. These people are a breakaway civilization, and military. Someone, is going to put it all out, but here comments go into tiny specifics and it is lost with massive values. I hope someone finds it all.
It is interesting that the same "Handbag" or "bucket" is found on Pillar 43 at Gobekli Tepe and also in Peru. It seems to me, there were some cross culture exchanges. Also, If you research Zoroastrianism you find the 7 sagas. Zoroastrianism is one of, the oldest recorded religions.
I don't see any handbags on pillar 43. If you're referring to the objects with arches at the top, you're going to need something that actually suggests they're "handbags" or even buckets. With such a simple shape (especially one which looks like a bucket, a simple technology people all around the world had and would have considered important), just pointing at them and saying "these look similar!" doesn't actually demonstrate anything at all. It's like the fact that pyramid structures got built all around the world. It doesn't mean there was some connecting force guiding them to build pyramids - well, except gravity, of course.
We see what we want to see. There are carving in Sumerian of the same "handbag" being handed to another person. In the carving of the Mayas we see a person holding the same "Handbag". You can say what you will, but the item is shown all around the world in the same depiction. Of course, we see the same on pillar 43. No connection? At the end of the day, it is what you want to believe. I choose to believe that scientists have been wrong before and will be wrong gain.@@LoudWaffle
@@billstapleton1084 Absolutely none of that addresses what I just said. Buckets can be handed to people, and the “handbag” shape is extremely rudimentary and does not nearly provide sufficient evidence for a connection by itself. Scientists can be wrong when new evidence arrives that changes what we can logically conclude about something. You are choosing to *believe* they are wrong against all of the data and evidence. It’s a very different process.
On the angel I found that's what I think it is anyway because she's got wings she's holding a handbag if they had bodies they had to keep themselves clean so they carried cosmetics maybe
Brilliant! I didn’t know that RU-vid allowed truthful content. (Only a bit of mild sarcasm). Thank you , I love what you’re doing here! Every bit of it.
In the Tepi explorations, they found collections of early GRAIN, showing that arable farming was starting. I suggest the Bags were to carry the early selected grain Seeds. The other raised hand offers Fruits from tree's and shrubs.
Or it could be representative of farming, so plants in one hand and water in the other, so giving farming knowledge, experts and sages in farming who are giving their agricultural wisdom
Nice to hear logic and sanity finally applied to this subject! I took all claims with a grain of salt. ANY symbol can be manipulated to mean any subjective definition, so we must separate Science from belief.
So refreshing to see a presentation that is well researched and concisely presented. However, I was disappointed to learn that the bags weren’t alien communication devices.
I saw a documentary called demon core.they show a metallic looking carry bag that they used to hold radioactive material.this is why I thought maybe all these different civilizations that had an entity carrying this bag represents them being given a radioactive energy source by the "gods"
🤣🤣🤣awe. There's a description of the tree isn't a date palm it's a Persian rose...I think you'll like what he has to say..not far fetched any way.interesting.
Sounds reasonable. A monument at Goblitepe also has the buckets , eleven thousand years earlier. That is a very long fad. I thought seed bag. Awesome time.
When I was a lad, I was instructed first by the French Nuns who taught me, and later, my Grandfather what every gentleman carries with him every time he lives his home: Keys, comb, Rosary, handkerchief (in case a woman starts crying), fountain pen, matches or lighter, pocket knife, one .38 Special cartridge (just in case ---- one 12-guage shotgun shell may be substituted), personal spoon, chapstick, flask, coins for a phone call, a condom (not on the Nuns' list), small Bible, toothbrush, mints, and lube. That's what was in the Sumerians' bags. It's a lot to fit in your pockets. (What has it gots in its pocketses?) If your girlfriend or sister was going, too, a gentleman would add a Kotex or tampon (her preference). Oddly enough, all these decades later, all this is what's in my 72-hour Bug-Out Bag, along with some Nacho-flavored Summer's Eve.
It charms me that the nuns didn’t put condoms on their list, but they did put lube. No reason to be completely thoughtless just because one shouldn’t use prophylactics.
OMG you know it all , i suppose everyone else better just sit down and shut up , rock on champ ,i guess we can all just go back to our trees like the chimps that we are ,now that you've solved "everything " , it's great the way your interpretation of stone carvings is the only correct one
The only thing that has intrigued me about these buckets is that you can find carvings of gods holding them all over the world. I love that similar stories have been told around the world as far back as we can find.
@@sosuaevents the expanding earth theory explains it. Also I just found out that a god depicted as a dragonfly holds a bucket like that and it's full of baby humans. That bucket when held by gods usually depicts the seeds of life being brought to earth.
Couple it with the flood stories that also are with these cultures. And I see a group of survivors that preserved seed to plant new life in a destroyed world. Johnny Appleseed is a modern folklore. A guy with a bag of seeds and a pot on his head. What will people think of that image 9,000 years from now?
This = fallen angels given man knowledge. Which is why the stonebuilders guild. . . the MASONS hold these secrets. I covered this in detail, check it out.
To be honest. I know what the handbags represents because I translateD the Assyrian tree of life relief. Actually it is not a tree of life but the relief is the star gate relief. The hand bag represents their luggage cause they are traveling thru space. I sent you the true translations of the dendera bulb reliefs and the tree of life (stargate) relief
I think you are reading too much into it. What he pointed out and the depiction of the art signifies the importance of agriculture/horticulture in their life which makes a lot of sense.
You’re right, sir, the ancients would not have associated the pine cone with the pineal gland because the Ancients did not study neuroscience! All of the Ancients cultures of that time associated spiritual wisdom with the Heart, which is not wrong! Most didn’t know what the mush in the head was!
SOLVED???? NOT TRUE, click bait regurgitating what someone else has said with your take on it, to claim it is SOLVED. Bold claim, but short on actual EVIDENCE yourself mate! I could pick your arguements to pieces too but I would not flatter you with that, nor do I feel it worth my time - as you have in this SOLVED critque of someone elses efforts! What effort you have put in to do this, to make bold claims of SOLVED. But, your mainstream view is just what mainstream want, and as your work hasn't been peer reviewed and accepted then, you are just another troll making bold clickbait claims of SOLVED. How arrogant to put down someone else's efforts and then claim boldly to have claimed to have solved it yourself. You are after subscribers and views to get to a monetised account, and it shows in your 'work'.
Is it a clickbaity title? Sure. But keep this in mind: Reporting that a mystery is solved is not the same as saying I personally solved it. It’s the same as if a news piece used the headline “Murder Case Solved.” Those words do not mean that the reporter solved the case.
@@WorldofAntiquity Who solved the mystery? The case is not solved and in your analogy this is an unsolved murder case, a dead case file! So please inform me because I must have missed it when you said that someone else solved it, who it was and there irrefutable proof - WHO solved it?
@@WorldofAntiquity I keep in mind the world is full of opinions and fake news and you are no better than mainstream reporters. And you call Plato's work fiction, you know it so it must be true.
Scholars who have comprehensively studied the art and writings. There is absolutely no doubt that the apkallu are carrying water buckets. We have the actual buckets.
WOW! The only thing you missed were the Mayan had no metal/ore to make buckets? Nor did the people of Gobekli Tepe (before metallurgy) Other than that you are spot on? Great work!
But I didn't say that the Maya or people of Gobekli Tepe made metal buckets. I was only talking about the Assyrian images. In Part 2, I discuss Gobekli Tepe and the Americas. Check it out.
The snarky, intellectually superior tone of this video really detracts from the detailed work (and my interest in subscribing). Not just uncomfortable to listen to, but out of place for subjects which are not 'solved' but still only hypotheses - however carefully examined... I came here to listen to the reasoning and research, not to hear other people with other educated opinions being bashed.
I truly believe the "BAG" Is not a bucket or a bag but instead a representation of the ARK !!! The pinecone is supposed to represent knowledge. So, I think looking at the art. We see the PASSING or EXCHANGE of knowledge and power.
Damn! I definitely felt that when you said “they did create their gods in their own image after all” Such a good switch on how it could’ve gone the other way.
@@wadeburkett The experiment was actually done using grape juice to power LEDs. So even if they made it up they still produced electricity which are the same steps you take in "scientific theory" or an hypothesis. Which still leaves us to question how the ancient Egyptians surpassed later societies with their gold plating techniques. So they may not have had electricity as many theorize, but in our time we can only match their plating techniques with Electrolysis. But I respect all theories on the subject.
@@Grisuu great question, ironically never answered as if to say "we now exactly what this bucket is, but the wrist item we don’t know but we call it anything but a wrist watch cause time wasnt invented till 1996" sarcastically speaking. Further more there are more theories on the bag from trusted sources as well as the wrist item that yes, looks exactly like a watch with a face unlike a bracelet that’s typically uniformed all the way around.
I have a disruptive hypothesis that will shake Mainstream History.. here it goes: Ancient people needed to carry stuff and had things made for this purpose.
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Hi there, I would like to add something to this. Thank you for the video first of all, second there seems to be a recurrence in the DALU theory since we also see it in Gobekli Tepi in Turkey dating 12,000 years ago apparently. There is something to it, it could be a bucket as you said, I also saw a few images of the same object but this time it was actually weights. Regardless, they were buckets or weights, they seem to carry a meaning. We use buckets to fill them up with something, water most probably which leads back to weights, maybe 1 bucket = 1 kilogram or a measure of some sort. Point is, they are found depicted almost everywhere, the question is WHY? They went through the trouble of carving them and making their deities carry them for some pretty important reason. It is maybe to highlight the concept of fairness, weighing good deeds against bad ones (like the ancient Egyptians did with the heart and feather depiction) The tree of life, is also important, it is a palm tree from what I understand from your video, and so if it is, the palm tree is indicative of something and it is of importance beyond the material representation. Bear in mind that all scripture, murals depicting rituals etc. are to be seen from an esoteric perspective, they depict something beyond the seen world, into the unseen, the inner workings of Man and his spirituality. Connecting this to the philisopher's stone and the concept of the transcendental aspect of the spirit or spiritual alchemy, we might understand that these buckets (Dalu) had something to do with the process of becoming One with the God of creation. We are born out of water (womb) and we start from water (semen) for example so water could indicate various things, i think this this topic needs to be looked at from a deeper point of view. I know for a fact that the palm tree was mentioned in the Quran, so were wights and the importance of being fair and not to cheat in the game of life, the virgin Mary for example, when looked at from an esoteric and allegorical point of view reveals that it is the spirit of Man, when it reaches its purest form due to the alchemical purification process of transcending pain to enlightenment to then give a "mental" or spiritual birth to the Jesus consciousness state of being (it is a mental birth not a physical one). All I am saying here is that murals depict more than physical activity, watering the palm tree and so on that you speak of, the process is depicting the spiritual purification of Man to reach its highest potential, becoming One with the God of creation and literally downloading advanced information on how to create civilization by respecting the universal laws of nature. Only by reaching this state of awareness was knowledge made accessible, through meditation and complete destruction of the ego personality. Maybe this was the depiction or the instructions manual on how to reach the state of pure awareness and oneness with Gos. Anyway these were my thoughts and if you have reached this part of my comment I salute you for your patience and curiosity... Peace and love to all
Great video professor! What hit home for me was the name of the buckets being "dalu." In Arabic, which is of course in the Semitic language family with Akkadian, the word for bucket is also dalu. Also, one of the words for wise is abkari, which is pretty close to the ancient word apkallu (especially when taking into account the lack of the p sound in Semitic languages). I'm aware that the two languages are many years apart but the similarities are obvious. But still, prof, you haven't convinced me that these dalu weren't actually hand bags that ancient aliens like to match with their designer shoes. 😀 Keep up the good fight
Firstly, good counter-arguments by this professor. However, ancient peoples depicting what they see with references to their daily experiences IS the norm. If an ancient Akkadian were to see your mobile phone screensaver with pictures of water flowing in it, they will no doubt depict it as some kind of magical "dalu" that hold water, yes? Lol. I'm NOT saying that ancient Akkadians saw Aliens or Time Travelers, but I'm saying people will always try to understand what they see via references to something they are currently familiar with, even though it may be a TOTALLY different thing altogether. So, while this good professor has some valid points, it still does NOT debunk the core ideas behind the Ancient Architects series. For instance, at 18:28 mark, even this video also shows the similar "dalu" / handbag / bucket from totally DIFFERENT cultures of central Asia and meso-America, which have presumably zero contact between them. So, this already is a HUGE controversy worth exploring and debating upon, which will likely lead to a total re-write of human history....but so far, mainstream historians have no good explanations for this, and they simply wave their hands and focus on the minutiae that they can easily tackle - like explaining the root words for buckets in ancient sumerian.
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I love your video man! Leaves ALOT to think about truly does, can i ask your opinion on the Flower of life amd Sacred Geometry? And why the Flower of life is etched on the Temple in Abydos but also in many other places in different cultures
I know this is old video, but I was watching your South American "megolithic" buildings myth bust, how they likely dragged the rocks. One of the images shared had someone standing on a rock holding a bucket (and a rod) very similar to this. Do you know what this bucket represented in South America?
Probably the same thing as in Sumeria...after all there was a movement of a sage known as Agasthya from Asia to West Africa and then onto South America...
Water Buckets? I thought it was a purse to carry cigarettes, I would have tried to start my spaceship with it because it might be a valuable key to get the airship off the ground.
This is so illuminating. Assyriology is so interesting, and it's frustrating to have to sift through all the conspiracies and nonsense. Thanks for bringing some actual enlightenment to RU-vid
Out of curiosity, I was noticing that a lot of the figures in the images you presented were wearing bracelets with a flower-like disc. Do they have any significance or was it just the fashion at the time?
haha if I good this clip right according to Mr. archeology not significant , they were just the level indicator for the bucket according to Mr. Alien ,very significant , it was telling those animal heads when it was time to go back to there hibernating place to wait another million year or so
The hand baskets are seed exchange containers. Nothing was more valuable at that time than the variety and hybrid seeds.The need for grain seeds, crosses time and emerging agricultural cultures. (copyright 2023 Jerome A Cook) 9:28 "distinguish seeds" agriculture
That was the best explanation I have ever heard on this subject, as a gardener and someone who pollinates my own plant, it makes perfect sense to me. Iv been looking for a rational explanation and you have given me that, with no fluff and woo woo stuff lol. Thank you so much for you great work. ❤️🏴
Did it ever occur to you that ALL of the individuals depicted were people of POWER and that given they had power would have most probably many servants to carry their "water" as he says. Canteens would be carried on the hip hardly in the hand. That is just a plain silly explanation.
@@mutilettie that’s interesting, I’m not saying it’s completely right. I am very open to other explanations. Perhaps you could let me know what you think it might be for ? ❤️
A reasonable explanation of the hand held bags. One - practical, carrying water and two - mythical, carrying wisdom. Still don't understand how cultures continents apart e.g. Olmecs in South America, could have the same imagery unless they brought this with them over the Asian, North American land bridge.
Sweet water would be carried not river, sea, or lake water. Hey guys stop hunting and help us out building some things. We have food, women, and sweet water beer.
The vulture stone at Gobeki Tepi is the original version with no deity shown. Later, the handbag is made subservient to the deity. Changing belief systems (religions) requires that the old system be diminished, it can't be allowed to be co-equal with the new system. In the ages without alphabets, symbols were paramount. Where we might be tempted to use flowery prose like Shakespeare, they used impressive artwork. It had to be impressive to convey the importance of the message. But, there is cuneiform writing on the reliefs? That was for the priests who could explain things to the common people. The Catholic Church developed the Latin Mass which common people couldn't understand, hence the emphasis on stained glass windows.
@3:28 - "They did create their gods in their own image, after all." [Shows image of a bird-headed god] 😂 Jokes aside, this is a great deconstruction of the bunkum around the "Mysterious Handbags (tm)." Thank you for providing this service. So many of these "independent researchers" put words in the mouths of "orthodox archaeologists" (or claim they have no answer to a given "mystery"), apparently having no idea what mainstream historians and archaeologists think, and why. It's as if they think their Junior High history teacher conveyed the entirety of ancient historical scholarship, so if s/he didn't explain the "handbags" or the "precision of the Serapeum boxes" or whatever, no one else has answers to those questions.
What an insightful response to the wild speculation of the “manbags”. Now can we explain the main pillars of Göbeklitepe, and the Moai of Easter Island and their hands over their belly’s.
World of Antiquity No handbags. Take a look at the Moai and the T pillars of Gobekli. With their skinny, long fingers and their hands resting on their belly’s. No evidence to tie these , but they are striking similar?
The buckets came later as metal working became of age.The handbags as they are today now known as came into use when weaving was learned.The handbag is a power symbol associated with medicine men and people of authority..It's use is not yet passed for the American Indian continue to use them .The Assarians handbags are the earliest with carvings of them.One in particular is one of leather with leather fringe that is for wicking water out of the medicine bag..Pillar 43 at Gobekli Tepe has three on it,not buckets and is far older than Sumerian civilization.The wrist watches seen on Sumerian carvings are simply those superhumans who wore them were capable to eat from the tree of life.The wristwatch is only a symbol to speak to the viewing audience.On some carvingd the flower on the wristwatch is the same as found in carvings.
These buckets are called Aspersorium in the Catholic Church. A little bucket containing holy water. It comes with a Aspergillum, a kind of hollow metal sphere on a wand. It has holes in it to scoop up water that is then sprinkled on people and things as a blessing. Sometimes that can just be a brush or even stick with a slot down the middle. I suppose these Sages went around sprinkling scented water in the same way.
Reminds me of Great Zimbabwe, when a bunch of people were claiming it was some prehistoric and ancient city. Until archaeologists got involved and were able to place it in history through evidence of trade routes with China and India.
Great content, I'm glad I found this. Apkallu are interesting figures. Piotr Steinkeller (2017) writes on abgal and states that they appear in Lu A list from Uruk period as well as economic tablets of Fara period (p. 65). He also links abgal with a figure appearing behind a priest-king in Uruk III art such as Warka Vase or many cylinder seals (p. 69). Regarding your view on enlightenment, I have to point out that what Ancient Architects mean is a spiritual enlightenment, which is profound spiritual experience not necessarily exclusive to Buddhism, although it is very prominent in its tradition. Comparing it to flipping a switch seems to me like misunderstanding of the meaning of the word. I certainly wish enlightenment was taught in schools. Maybe the world would be much better place.
Thank you for sharing. In regard to enlightenment, I do understand that Ancient Architects meant spiritual enlightenment, at least partly, but he wasn't consistent, and that was my point. When you broaden the definition of the word, you run into trouble.
So I just listened to the rest of your presentation and heard that you think the "buckets" are used for pollinating date palms? Wow, they spend a lot of time pollinating palms
Look like cases for Tablets to me. They needed Tablets to communicate with home. They carry the cases out so they can recharge using solar panel material. Also the watch: I got one in central Asia for $10. It makes sense extra terestrials would buy good deals.
I always suspected that the "handbags" were just some common form of conveyance for carrying small objects and would not have looked out of place at the time. As far as I know garments didn't have pockets back then. They had to carry small personal items in something. But, water buckets, ok.
A lot of the Ancient Architects script includes popular keywords to help the RU-vid algorithm point people to the video. It's part of why his channel is growing so fast he's using the language that people are searching and RU-vid is rewarding that with views. As a fan of Matt's channel I must say you did a good job on this video. You clearly have a better understanding of the subject matter and aren't just reading things you found online with little to no understanding of the thousands of years of context surrounding them. I appreciate that. Could you possibly explain why the same bucket objects are found in South American reliefs? I've always been interested in how that is possible.
Why must everything be so complicated, btw? Can't the tree just represent a dates-tree, and the guys surrounding it are just dudes picking dates and putting them in their baskets?
Really good! You are performing a service to humankind here. I'm not joking and hopefully not even exaggerating. There is so much pseudoscience and vague, imprecise thinking prevalent in the modern world masquerading as valid interpretation of reality. The truth is always preferable to fantasy, no matter how boring it is and our collective consciousness will be better for it in the end. Enlightenment!
Very interesting and informative, thank you. I always love some good skepticism. One thing you don't mention is what clearly appears to be opium poppies at 14:55. I'm curious what the inscriptions may have had to say about that, and your interpretation.
They are depicted on the stones of Gobekl Tepe also. Just a bucket? I highly doubt a bucket was so important that it had to be carved in stone. Im sure they had better things to carry water in.
Do an image search of "priest with aspergillum and aspersorium" to see these "buckets" and "pine cones" in modern use. The Catholic church still uses them.
What about the fact that the handbags also show up in Mexico, Egypt, and Gobleki Tepe? In Gobleki Tepe one pillar displays three handbags on their own. I think there was def a symbolism attached to these bags. As a fun aside, btw, The Gobleki Tepe site is about 12k years old, which makes it more than twice as old as Sumerian sites, and it was deliberately buried.
It is great to have Professor Miano fact-checking all the alternative theories. I had it in my head that the dolus contained pollen, which was meant to symbolize life, but water is just as good and it makes sense. We must be very careful how we look at thousand-year old art and decipher the meaning from our i-phoned brains. Could we ask the good professor what are the curious-looking bracelets that look an awful lot like Swatches are?
@@WorldofAntiquity GGGGGGGGGreat to hear from you. Well, they are what they look like and that's good to know. I'm an armchair whatever you want to call me, but I try not to fall into any belief system and keep an open mind. I've written my first book which will be coming out in its revised edition sooner than later I hope, and this time I've invented an economic system to replace capitalism. I am not an economist, but economics is sort of my hobby and I just made up a system that I think would be better than the one we've got. But I have in no way claimed to be an economist or specialist in the field.
I thought the bags\buckets were knowledge being passed on to the anointed ones with the pine cone representing our 3rd eye. Do you think they were taught about the human body as well as everything else? Surely they weren't only taught agriculture, mathematics etc an were all so taught about the human body and brain? Even if no writings exist? I do like your analogy though. Thanks. new sub.
The enlightenment rant really had me cracking up! I do admit that I was taken in by this type of stuff for a while, just like Matt. But he has said in later videos that his views generally are evolving and that his videos document that evolution. I haven’t seen anything like this from him in a long time.
What is in the bag or bucket is the key, when they show the Pine Cone in the other hand, most people are unaware that the Pine Tree DNA is 10x more complex than human DNA. The pine tree is a fast-growing species with a number of important uses then and now. Fast growing trees were needed to replace forests that were wiped out during major cataclysms 13,000 years ago.
Enlightenment,,, was handed down from one generation to the next. My family had a talk about it at a family gathering around the table during the meal. Ideas were shared, knowledge was shared. It doesnt work as good anymore. The younger ones think they know more, the older ones give up. The ritual things done are being lost to technology. The old ways have reasons, special knowledge to go with them. Technology takes the place of that and dulls the mind.
Thank you for this video. I have seen many videos talking about these so called bags, and of course its always in ancient alien, or Atlantis based videos. Not one of said videos ever mentions anything about archeology knowing what they are or that they are buckets, even though I thought they looked like buckets. Its crazy how many people bring them up as if its some big deal. Yes I do watch stuff about Atlantis, ancient aliens, and I love Graham Hancock's work, however, its only because its all very interesting, like reading a good scifi or fantasy novel, and not because I believe any of it. I may find it all interesting, but its interesting nonsense.
@@tilleryinnovations592 It’s adorable that you’re still entertaining the idea that they’re bags instead of buckets. It undermines your impartiality in one short phrase.
@@tilleryinnovations592 Also from the Met's site, in a description of a carved Assyrian panel: "The figure holds a small bucket in his left hand, and in his right an object resembling a pine-cone. This cone, called by the Assyrians a "purifier," seems to have been used to sprinkle holy water from the bucket, and may have had a symbolic association with the artificial fertilization of date-palm trees." From several more of the Met's panel descriptions: "The figure is human-headed and faces [left/right], holding in his left hand a bucket and in his right hand a cone whose exact nature is unclear. One suggestion has been that the gesture, sometimes performed by figures flanking a sacred tree, is symbolic of fertilization: the "cone" resembles the male date spathe used by Mesopotamian farmers, with water, to artificially fertilize female date-palm trees. It does seem likely that the cone was supposed to hold and dispense water from the bucket in this way, but it is described in Akkadian as a "purifier," and the fact that figures performing this gesture are also shown flanking the king suggests that some purifying or protective meaning is present." There's no confusion about what the buckets are, what they hold, or whether they're even buckets. Also, let me let you in on a little secret: The people who write museum labels aren't always experts. Often they're curators who are trying to trim down descriptions written by actual experts, or they're trying to synthesize much longer source materials into something the general public will understand. Details requiring expertise get lost along the way. It's a known problem. So let's look back at the two descriptions. The first one is clear: The ritual cone and water are hypothesized to be a metaphor for the real date-palm cone and pollen. The bucket is a ritual object that's used to carry water for the ritual sprinkling. The first description doesn't explicitly say that the water isn't necessary for actual artificial pollination. So the person who wrote the second description got confused. The bucket of water must be used in artificial pollination, because it's present in a ritual form of pollination... right? The folks who write museum labels aren't paid to double-check every detail, especially when they have expert sources that appear to say a particular version of the facts is correct. So they perpetrate a mistake, which then spreads across the Internet, because museum websites are one of the very few trusted sources for exactly the kind of niche detail that tends to get mangled. To summarize: They're buckets. Their contents: Almost certainly water. The Met's labels: Could be written better. You: Didn't read far enough into your own source to see that the source supports Miniminuteman's interpretation.
The handbags represent: A) the carriers of the secret knowledge B) a radio type of frequency changer to be used in conjunction with their "pine cones" (pineal gland 3rd eye) C) a status symbol showing that someone is of the ancient builder race D) a fashionable carry-all for genetic material
