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MYTHBUSTING: "Do I need separate channels for my Shorts and VODs?" 

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Hello Insiders! Today we're answering a question we hear all the time, "if I've been making long form videos but want to start making Shorts, do I need a separate channel or should I use my main channel for both?".
Check it out and leave us your comments and questions below!
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Комментарии : 64   
@BYDonBermudaGrassCentral
@BYDonBermudaGrassCentral Год назад
Only problem is the people watching the short don’t even notice the play button for the long form content. Make that button more noticeable
@explorewithsound
@explorewithsound 11 месяцев назад
Sadly, most of those subscribers who subscribe to your channel via a YT short are not interested in the long form. This is why many content creators have two channels.
@hepsima
@hepsima 3 месяца назад
What are the negatives then if you get subscribers through shorts as well as your long format videos? Why bother with an extra channel? Maybe the retention that the shorts derived viewers give to your long format videos might ruin the statistics or??
@GoingGreenMom
@GoingGreenMom 2 месяца назад
RU-vid then recommends your long form to your shorts subscribers, they don't care because it isn't a short, and your longform videos tank because your subscribers arent watching your videos so they quit recommending it to anyone. ​@@hepsima
@hepsima
@hepsima 2 месяца назад
@@GoingGreenMom gotcha, might wanna start a seperate channel then
@Techusiast
@Techusiast Год назад
If you're really making bridges between these, then separate Shorts from long-form videos on the subscriptions page on the web! Many people have been asking for it for months, and RU-vid doesn't even acknowledge this...
@YouTubeLiaison
@YouTubeLiaison Год назад
It's a complicated topic. First, most people don't watch from the feed. I get 50% of my channel views from subs but only 4% click from the sub feed, the rest all click from the Home page. Second, the purpose of a feed is to provide all the videos from a creator. If we put tabs in it, it's not a feed any more, it's bookmark for the channel pages (maybe that's a good feature request). Otherwise, to keep it a feed, you'd need separate feeds for long form, Shorts, podcasts, lives, an all (some people, like me, really want * all * videos from creators we like). That's 5 feeds per channel, which is a lot and may cause most people to just stop subscribing? Third, I think Shorts have a "rock and roll isn't real music" reaction from the OG right now, but that'll fade in time?
@Techusiast
@Techusiast Год назад
@@RU-vidLiaison I don't think it's very complicated. Let's do a usual A/B test and see how it checks out. If I'm wrong, by all means, let's spam the subscription page and keep everything as it is today. All I'm saying is, we should separate Shorts to take up less space on the subscription page. I understand the thought of having a feed that shows everything in one, neat place, but Shorts simply take up as much room as standard, long-form videos. We can still display them on the same feed without using tabs. Let's show them in a similar fashion as Stories on mobile, or with a different design that's stickied to the top. There are lots of ways to make them stand out without mixing them with normal content. I understand the value Shorts bring, but many creators like myself use the subscription page to stay up to date with fellow creators and channels we're subscribed to.
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 Год назад
@@RU-vidLiaison "I get 50% of my channel views from subs but only 4% click from the sub feed" There really needs to be something done about that then, it's a lot easier for viewers to miss videos that way as it's not comprehensive.
@GoingGreenMom
@GoingGreenMom 2 месяца назад
​@@Techusiastmaybe the ability to toggle off if we don't want to see shorts. I drop my phone and hit something and have shorts every other thing on the feed. A Block of 4, every other video means I have to really look for Long form. I have basically just made my own feed by going through blue dots on the subscription list and adding the Long form content to my watch later list.
@SquidTips
@SquidTips Год назад
Multiple channels for a creators never made sense to me, glad more focus is coming to connecting those dots for users.
@ANYFINISPOSSIBLE1977
@ANYFINISPOSSIBLE1977 Год назад
right...but that's not considering the fact that many people looking for shorts ARE NOT looking for longs. So when you serve them a long and they click off it or watch 10 seconds of it, it messes up the numbers which are used to drive the algorythms.... so i hope they are also looking at that. I believe this is the right direction but i see alot of oversights in it so far.
@thanksfordoxingpeopleyoutube
youtube you can solve this question by adding the option for people to op out of shorts or longform being suggested in subbox and suggestions on a per channel basis
@CrazyAboutFlyFishing
@CrazyAboutFlyFishing Год назад
I started with shorts re-purposed from my long-form content late last year and it exploded but attracts a much wider audience including lots that aren't interested in my long-form vids (I know from the demographic). Initially, that had no effect on my long-form but, almost exactly when the first "bridge" was announced by Todd my long-form absolutely tanked and has been going down ever since while my shorts are still mostly doing very well. When I look at my Audience for long-form it's almost only subscribers or returning viewers watching and very little new audience. My content has overall improved and my audience says so in comments too plus retention is up and CTR is the same or better on most videos but what I suspect is that RU-vid is testing the videos out based on my shorts audience and not having much success so then stops showing it to a new audience. My shorts audience is just way too different even though it's exactly the same content re-purposed. I am stuck with it now, wish I had done two channels. I contemplated deleting all the shorts and rebuilding my channel but I will wait to see what revenue they bring from the first of Feb. In general, I regret doing shorts as I am very sure it's no coincidence my long-form completely tanked just as the shorts bridge was built and my shorts took off. It's sad because I put so much effort into each video. Many many hours filming and editing. Hopefully you can pass this onto the YT team and let them actually look at my channel analytics and see for themselves. I am basing this on the data I see. Also, my long-form analytics are now buried among the millions of shorts views so I can't see any overall audience data or anything properly just for long-form. I wish it would just be totally split and have all the analytics available for each content type.
@haliduibrahim1601
@haliduibrahim1601 Год назад
Bro. I am facing the same problem and I don't know what to do now
@Muhluri
@Muhluri Год назад
I decided to just do everything on 1 channel last year. The first few months were rough but it's much better these days
@YouTubeLiaison
@YouTubeLiaison Год назад
That's great to hear, hope it keeps going well for you!
@GlitchmanVGM
@GlitchmanVGM Год назад
Thanks for these short videos, I enjoy watching them. And I also appreciate how you respond to our comments and concerns. Keep it up! 👍
@ButterflyDreamsYT
@ButterflyDreamsYT Год назад
Great advice
@Allstin
@Allstin Год назад
It seems the edit into short feature has some shortcomings like lesser quality than the video, that it doesn’t translate over as well? - are there any plans to tweak it over time?
@DiptoTv
@DiptoTv 28 дней назад
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@enyolsworld
@enyolsworld День назад
I use shorts to promote my new videos, should I release my shorts, before, after or at the same time as the video?
@GAMETIMETVTM
@GAMETIMETVTM Год назад
for me the best is to split the videos and shorts on two different channels because my "horror for kids" format is very specific and has a specific niche while the shorts aim to make you seen by a general audience and many times damage formats like mine by blocking the growth of long videos, I speak from experience and direct tests, in fact I have removed shorts even with millions of visuals from my main channel in order to make it recover and out of nowhere it has recovered many views in the long format.
@mybloxtv
@mybloxtv Год назад
so true!
@hepsima
@hepsima 3 месяца назад
What can the negatives be of just uploading long-format and shorts on only one channel? Why bother with an extra channel??
@RolandGustafsson
@RolandGustafsson Год назад
I wish I could prevent shorts from showing up at all! Don’t like them! As a premium subscriber I wish there was a setting to turn them off. If you have separate channel for shorts that’s great, I wouldn’t subscribe to it. 😊
@sasmindpeace
@sasmindpeace Год назад
Very informative video.Thanks a lot to dear team.
@inday8buhayprobinsya
@inday8buhayprobinsya Год назад
Thank you Soo much sir for this information...
@mylamberfeeties875
@mylamberfeeties875 Год назад
Omygosh I need to do this somehow. I'm still trying to figure out features, I only have a cell phone I'm in a remote area. I have over 500 videos both shorts and a vlog. This is so much information to ingest
@YouTubeLiaison
@YouTubeLiaison Год назад
If you're working on a phone, Shorts can be way easier to start building off of
@mylamberfeeties875
@mylamberfeeties875 Год назад
@@RU-vidLiaison they are my favorite to do for sure. I do need to do a better description better titles and link them to the vlog or viscera
@1Zero9999
@1Zero9999 Год назад
I wish there was a mute and unmute button after i cut from a long vdeo clip. But Thank you for a great work.🎉❤
@StephenAldaco
@StephenAldaco 9 месяцев назад
How about if im making long form on one & a podcast on another? The podcast is in the same niche
@SpawkenToons
@SpawkenToons Год назад
Can we please get vertical live videos to appear in the shorts feed😎
@PatriotMindsets
@PatriotMindsets Год назад
I thiught I needed to create distinct style with my Shorts, so they're insanely fast-paced compared to my longform. Now, I have 200k zombie subscribers who won't watch my longform.
@Wysong733
@Wysong733 Год назад
Thx
@mdubbgaming
@mdubbgaming 8 месяцев назад
I don’t fully agree with this. My channel started off as shorts and we got tons of engagement. When we started doing long gameplays, videos only average a few hundred views. I do agree that if you started off long form and gained a strong audience, sure, make some shorts too. But I have seen that my shorts audience could care less about my long gameplays. 😢
@DiveoMedia
@DiveoMedia Месяц назад
Well, to be honest youtube workers don’t really know how their algo works. Same for Google Play search rankings. We all have to figure it out by ourselves
@pkrtechvid
@pkrtechvid Год назад
So finnally I got my answer
@JoZhWorld
@JoZhWorld 8 месяцев назад
Ok, looks like I need a separate shorts channel....
@Hyacsho
@Hyacsho Год назад
Excellent
@foodcooking-a
@foodcooking-a Год назад
나는 아직 많이 분석하고 있습니다 많이 어렵고 힘들지만 즐겁게 영상 만들려고 노력합니다 오늘 영상도 도움이 되었어요 고맙습니다^^
@shanzay829
@shanzay829 Год назад
👌👌👌
@shaniinternetinfo2988
@shaniinternetinfo2988 Год назад
Great sir
@68fn2
@68fn2 9 месяцев назад
doesnt it lower the average view time per video of the channel? which lowers your monetization
@CreatortechofficialKtricks
@CreatortechofficialKtricks Год назад
Nice 👍
@HaradhanSardar4
@HaradhanSardar4 9 месяцев назад
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Jecerey
@Jecerey Месяц назад
Wouldn't this waste Impressions
@Umaimmashahzad
@Umaimmashahzad Год назад
Please say how can shorts videos viral
@killshot7041
@killshot7041 Год назад
My friend and I are making a gaming channel but I don't know if it's a good idea for both of us to upload on the same channell to get more content out or to have seperate channells which would have less content on each Can you pls give you opinion?
@manjuayurveda
@manjuayurveda Год назад
Nice
@Brorenantorreon1992
@Brorenantorreon1992 Год назад
Thank you for information hope my channel is growing 💗
@YouTubeLiaison
@YouTubeLiaison Год назад
Hope it works for you!
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 Год назад
I see exactly what you're doing and I just have to say you're not getting the zoomers and alphas off of Tik-Tok and onto RU-vid like this and it's hilarious you ever thought you could. RU-vid is too cold and corporate for them. It's not trendy at all and you're basically doing the "how do you do fellow kids" bit with this. RU-vid started sawing those edges off in the 2000s and they were gone by the mid 2010s.
@YouTubeLiaison
@YouTubeLiaison Год назад
So you're saying we have a shot with Gen X?? Appreciate your feedback, as always mattwo7!
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 Год назад
@@RU-vidLiaison Well I do personally know an Xer who used both to begin with (said Xer prefers TikTok though for some reason, don't think said Xer used Vine though). It's obviously not the Xers you're aiming for with shorts though.
@RifniMohamed
@RifniMohamed Год назад
Thank you ur informations sir. Today my birthday sir please wise me.
@Janijan44lakiy
@Janijan44lakiy 5 месяцев назад
My healp is account gro pleez help
@LorenzDominique
@LorenzDominique Год назад
Lol this is bad advice straight from the source.
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 Год назад
I actually believe this one. They want to get the younger generations off TikTok and help give RU-vid ad rev, which can't be done with shorts. It's taking advantage of a tactic called "brand synergy." The problem with this plan is the first step. Nothing is being done to make RU-vid more appealing to them than TikTok.
@jjbones
@jjbones Год назад
I like how YT is working on bridging the shorts and the long form. Thanks for the reassurance 😁😁😁
@SigmaGamingLLC
@SigmaGamingLLC 8 месяцев назад
Poop and pee I guess
@kenttimes
@kenttimes Год назад
"If someone's looking at your shorts 🩳 and you're alive, we'll tell them" sounds pretty fishy tbh 🤔
@CountryBoyCookingwithMarshall
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