MythBusting with Casey! 

Why do I always fall for this click bait? 😁I am looking at lever length around the back axle as a pivot v the weight that is « going down » the crane arm and acting in the opposite direction. Load up one way..drive on and weigh the front wheels, back wheels and then the jeep..It is impossible for the sum of all three to change but front to rear axle can.

"Expert": But this test is flawed! Test must be done at the same time, air humidity, pressure, temperature, location and moon phase. All these variables can cause differences in measurements and it does not help that you are towing a Jeep with no black ice air freshener. By the way, this was a joke for those who did not understand it.

@@ChannelJanis Yabut, some will still believe a difference in "moon phase", or humidity , will make a big difference because they read it on the internet. 🤣

Sorry I didn't see your comment when I was making mine with Google Translate haha

My favorite wheel lift myth "You shouldn't tow long distance behind a wheel lift. That causes rock chips and broken windshields "

The torque bars are angled so lifting up on the rear, flat part, applies a twisting torque to the hitch head, causing more twisting force forcing the front end down. It works best with a framed vehicle vs a unibody.

What a weight distribution hitch does is remove some of the vertical articulation from the hitch point. In essence it uses tongue weight to pull down the front axle. It is a completely different scenario that this video.

Lifting the jeep higher puts more weight on the jeep back tyres and less on the lifting arm…but the jeep still weighs the same to tow. …I think😁

I can kind of see that too. The other thing they're missing is the boom is also pulling up on the anchor pivot pins ahead of that ram. A gooseneck trailer is not pulling up on any part of the truck.

I think a well designed rig will do just that..But there are definitely some bad designs out there

Somebody gets it now the tough part: convince Casey

@@Wannes_ Um, did you think I was being sarcastic? I wasn't. Are you being sarcastic? I'm not sure. In any case, to be clear, Casey explained it very well. I agree with him 100%. I was just adding some numbers to his observations.

​@@andrewsnow7386 and 25lb/inch when adjusted to the axle pick he did first at ~18" further under the jeep (~37" tire dia / 2) = ~450# extra weight lifted, the effect of which would be larger since the moment arm length acting on the truck end increased by that same distance as well. Hence, this is seen in the increased rear axle weight of ~800# in his first measurement. Unfortunately, the inclusion of the first wheel lift(axle) numbers at the beginning is throwing everyone off and has riled up all the dissenters. Since that setup is not an apples to apples comparison to his original point of wheel lift vs sling and which attachment method transfers weight "better"; those without an established understanding of the physics in play are arguing over the 800# difference. "But where did the 800# go....?" Another way to explain could have been to have the Jeep sling towed on the first weigh in and then lifted with the wheel lift at bumper secondly. Numbers would have been the same as shown in the video, proving the point that the attachment method is irrelevant. Although I'm sure some would still argue that without the front weight numbers, they are not convinced. However, as pointed out in the comments already and Casey's second video, if the rear bumper is lifted to the same height each time then the Jeep front axle has to weigh the same. (Same Jeep Axle + Same Tow Truck Rear = Same Tow Truck Front) --> which also equals no difference in weight transfer based on lifting method - his original point Also seems that the debate evolved a bit from, "The sling places more front axle weight due to the ram/boom being attached ahead of the rear axle" to a more generic "wheel lift(axle) vs sling lift" debate in the comments. This is not an apples to apples comparison though when compared in their typical usage & the different lift point (axle vs bumper) is not taken into account. Some arguing for "sling tows more" are forgetting that the wheel lift(axle) has to pick up much more weight (being under vs at the end) and at a farther distance from the tow vehicle as well. While the mode of attachment has no bearing on the weight the rear axle sees (at the same distance), I would argue that a heavier vehicle could be pulled by the tow truck using the sling or wheel lift attached at the bumper vs attempting to lift the same vehicle by the wheels. So in a way, all of those arguing "sling tows more" are inadvertently correct, but not for the reasons they think.

The argument for that is the rear axle is the pivot, so its load will barely change as you move the towed vehicle further from the axle. But the weight seen at other end of the lever, ie front axle will change significantly more as you change the length of your lever arm.......

You are 100% wrong. If the front axle gets lighter, something else has to get heavier. And that something else would be the rear axle, which didn't change in weight

@@CaseyLaDelle It should be split between the towed vehicles axle and the rear axle of the tow truck. As light as I imagine the rear of your jeep to be, I don't think the roadside scale is likely to be able to show the difference on your rear axle. Measuring the weights of all three axles would have provided definite proof either way.

All it takes is for someone to self declare in a seemingly position to know without doing the legwork Casey just did and lost the coin toss.

YES !!

Don't think he would do that, it could make his explanation invalid!

@@seniorrider9337 How so? Please explain!

@@Cougracer67 Simply because the weight on the rear is the same does not mean that weight added to the different points will not effect the front. He could have simplified this by measuring the distance between a block placed on the ground under the front bumper and the lower edge of the front bumper. Change lifting to other way and measure distance again. Are they exactly the same? Yes, Casey is correct; no, and he isn't. Simple. I believe he would find out he is wrong, even if it is a very small amount, which corner weighing would show very accurately. Therefore nothing in it for him. I really have come to respect Casey, but sure don't like his reaction to someone asking a question in this matter so they can understand better.

@@seniorrider9337 how would the weight be different on the front if the total weight doesn't change? Where does the extra weight come from?

No it’s not. The boom, ram, and all its components are a rigid structure. The rear axle is the fulcrum. If you believe anything different, you are wrong and there’s simply no two ways about that.

That is not the problem , those style lights brand new fresh out of the factory were no good. Very poor light output.