Nahiri BETRAYS EVERYONE!! | Zendikar Rising Lore 

So true

New Secret Lair confirmed.

I was just thinking about Fatal Push and how Nihiri might've just used a black mana spell... so can she use black mana or..... 👾

@@FancEpants11 I mean Yargle is on Swords to Plowshares so...

@@koanos2448 Very true

At least it wasn't the Eldrazi this time.

@@angelusnielson7135 I would have enjoyed the drone remnants evolving to be independant devoid or colorless animals and maybe a colorless new illithid/mindflayer style race.

What? Nahiri was trying to get Sorin to come fix the seal and instead he seals her into the hellvault and then waits a millenia before bothering to care about the seal.

@@bastermaboy you're missing the bit where 1. Sorin didn't get the call from Nahiri since he made a bunch of protections for Inistrahd, 2. has been told by Nahiri that she was able to contain it so doesn't grasp what she had just dealt with, 3. sorry is weakend and busied with his works to protect Inistrahd including making the Helvault and making Avacyn. 4. Nahiri threatened Sorin to such a degree that Avacyn saw her as a threat and went to protect her weakened master.

I agree, as bad as Soren can be, Nahri wants things her way and turns on anyone quickly that goes against it. Soren would not have just bet everything on one artifact blindly.

@@a0point0of0view1 You get it! The only response to someone not having reception for your calls is clearly to assault them right? haha

@Mullerornis why is war of the spark pointless?

Idk comrad, watching your world be eaten then have your mentor isolate you for a 1000 years might fuck you up

@Aether Veilborne Nahiri would care if she listened long enough. She doesn't know Ugin was dead and time travel is why hes alive now and was not present when she asked for help. learning Bolas killed him and was behind Eldrazi being released would have her fully onboard with what and who Ugin is punishing. She will never wait long enough to listen/learn real reason because when she confronted selfish Sorin he claimed he was innocent of any blame instead of taking his share for making his world cut off from warning from zendikar and not responding to alarm like he promised.

@@kyleellis9177 If she wasn't caught up in her own ego, she would've realized Sorin was exhausted when she confronted him with the issue. Sorin is the 3rd oldest walker, only being behind Bolas and Ugin, being several thousand years older than Nahiri, and is an elder vampire on top of that. So in the situation that was given, it's understandable why he was aloof and lacked agency. While both are at fault for what happened at the Helvault, it was Nahiri that struck first. Sorin no longer had the strength to fight another planeswalker into submission, his only 2 options were to kill Nahiri or seal her away. Sorin sealed her away because he didn't want to piss off Ugin and lose the creator of the hedrons in case the seal broke again. Sorin was actually going to release Nahiri at Ugin's request to fetch her. We got Eldritch Moon because Liliana and her Deus Ex Machina broke the Helvault while Sorin was away.

@@Battleguild I understand his reasoning. i also understand hers. She did strike first but with her reasoning she was tricked into using her home as a prison and no one came to help her when she called. Sorin was selfish in how he spoke to her. it was his fault he did not here original call for help like he promised he would respond too. like a child and not like an equal that she was. Nahiri is in the ten oldest walkers left alive and after the mending really means something. She is right for why she made her actions while wrong in the ones she made. Sorin is the reverse and is right in his actions and wrong in how he went about them.

To be fair, that's a consistent trait among all planeswalkers.

Nahiri who spent a millennia guarding over the eldrazi and ruling her world as a fair guardian?

probably

I can see nahiri absorbing remaining essence of Ulamog or Kozilek and becoming a colorless devourer. I can definitely see her being turned into some kind of mindflayer/illithid since zendikar is about DnD. nahiri becomes colorless(new kind of sentient humanoid eldrazi) and goes to worlds like Tarkir to drain mana to bring back to zendikar.

Yep, just finished the new chapter

"...Or the one"

Hey man - yeah had some personal things this past week but back at it (hopefully) tonight with chapter 4 :)

Considering they're sided against a 5000 year old extremely powerful lithomancer planeswalker, i wouldn't say they died like chumps

@@psifinch8434 but there wasn't even a fight. She used 2 ancient relics to instantly win. One of the 2 I imagine anyone in the possession of would have been able to achieve easy victory. Idk, felt way too easy for taking out legendary status characters, they didn't even get a single swing in.

They lost against a millenia old being that crafted every single Hedron on Zendikar herself and has an artifact to kill the very soul of the world. Simple creatures can barely be compared to the most powerful beings in the multiverse, especially if they wield an ancient weapon that can change the whole world completely

@@entiao5570 meanwhile, in mtg, either one of these cards could wreck nahiri(board state dependant), while both take her out in a single turn. Doesn't that say something about her power level in relation to everything else? Idk, just feels weird to me.

@@joec1060 there has to be some differentiation of flavor and mechanic. There is no way you could show a useful comparison of those power levels. Remember, Emrakul dies to 15 squirrels because you can't make it 99999/99999 for obvious reasons

Neither its going to be on vryn

What? Do you think Garruk comes from Vryn?

@@melus5585 no...jace does...

I know Jace comes from Vryn, but I still don't understand your first comment 😂

..... Neither of those things are going to happen..... Kaldhiem is supposed to be where vryn is

@@arcahmwinters70 true, i mean like full on evil wanting to make worlds the way she wants

@@arcahmwinters70 It was the best way to get Sorin back for abandoning her and her plane. Does Sorin drink human blood? If I recall correctly Avacyn was a tool to keep humans from going extinct so that vampires could have food. She wasn't benevolent or anything just like a shepherd for the sheep. Plus she messed with the OG angels and started the angel war.

I think it's more like a new Mirari.

When your mom slipped and fell the aftershock created the Roil

The roil is described as being like the immune response of Zendikar to an illness (like the Eldrazi) or perhaps like an allergy to an irritant. I am wondering why the roil still exists after the Eldrazi are gone. But it might be that Zendikar is still very sick from all the damage the Eldrazi did, and the roil will not go away until all the chalky and bismuth crystal covered wastes have healed into other types of lands.

Not like she could have asked, he was kinda dead, good thing he got better

@@Cha0sSp3ar well that is half of it, but i kinda meant in war of the spark

@@cosmicentitydragon2946 Nahiri did nothing but fight Sorin in War of the Spark so I doubt she went to ask some questions. She's not the rational kind of Planeswalker

I'm guessing Ugin couldn't have interfered with any timeline involving Sarkhan Vol, since he needed Sarkhan to go back and save him. But this brings up many questions on how the timeline on Tarkir effects timelines on other planes and is confusing as hell.

They never had a chance to speak. Ugin hid himself because he didn’t want Bolas to know he was there, and he showed up last minute to lock Bolas in the Other Realm who’s name I can’t remember atm. So, he showed up and left immediately because he also didn’t want anyone to know he nor Bolas were still alive. At this point, no one but Jace would even know Bolas or Ugin are even still alive or where they possibly could be.

P L O T

Not sure why my reply wasn’t posted, but disregard this one if it’s just stalled. White represents order, Nahiri is obsessed with it and will do anything to achieve it. White isn’t inherently good.

White thinks it knows what is best for everyone else and will act as if what ever higher force exist has personaly chosen them to do it.

White is no more the color of 'good' than Black is 'evil' They simply represent different things that COMMONLY associate with moral spectrums. White's simply 'Lawful' Whether Lawful GOOD or Lawful EVIL is entirely in the eye of the beholder. Boros for instance, the 'good guys' of the Guildpact by the time of the big ol Spark War... was traditionally an army of zealots and hypocrites... who only shifted more toward 'goodness' due to Gideon's influence with their NEW guild pact leader (as the OLD one Razia, wass said to be almost cruel in her zeal) Or take the whole 'New Phyrexia' set in which basically the whole set was about an ENTIRELY evil premise in which all the colors were basically infested with phyrexians. The colors aren't morality, they just tend to embody traits that attract certain mindsets. So while it's probably VERY true that white is the most common mana color to ATTRACT 'heroes' and 'good' folk and Black may attract more villanous minded people than decent........... there's heroes and villains of every color.

Wraths are white too. Myoujin of cleansing fire isn't handing out lollypops.

Henllo

Goddammit!

Proud of you

She's not. She is convinced she's doing the right thing, bringing Zendikar back to a state pre-Eldrazi. She needed company and didn't plan to hurt/kill any of them, Nahiri sees those as sacrifices for the greater good of order and control

Nahiri is CRAZY. There's a difference. You might be crazy to if you woke up from bed to find your plane destroyed devestated, then got imprisoned in HELL by your father figure where your only company was an entire planes worth of jailed demons. She's still intent on doing good for Zendikar..... just her sense of SCALE on the morality spectrum has been tainted... she spent too long surrounded by NOTHING but absolutely evil monsters that all deserved annihilation... so much so she may even have written off ALL of Innistrad as an unredeamable cesspit enough to write off bringing the Eldrazi there to spite Sorin and lose no sleep over the collateral damage. She's probably now judging people on a very skewed spectrum... she's like Robot Santa Clause... her Naughty/Nice Meter was set to high by nature of living too long surrounded by creatures where one could reliably argue 'its okay to do some bad things to see these monsters obliterated' Like... if you have to break some Angels to destroy Griselbrand... you might be able to convince yourself that you've done a net positive overall... you know, if you're crazy.

@@lenajohnson6179 Yeah people don't realize that everyone Nahiri has trusted has stabbed her in the back. Even Zendikar itself, who she guarded for hundreds of years.

Nahiri is not pure evil and is not boring. I find her a bit erratic and unpredictable. She damages and risks her own plane to save the multiverse from the Eldrazi. And then she spends millennia guarding this prison. When she believes Zendikar has been destroyed by Sorin, she goes berserk and does her best to destroy his plane. (Which is totally evil and a sharp contrast to her previous selfless actions imprisoning and guarding the Eldrazi.) In the War of the Spark, after a good long duel with Sorin, she calms down a bit and valiantly fights against the forces of Bolas to save the plane of Ravnica. Then she tries to be good yet again. She tries to heal Zendikar. It just appears that she has a difference of opinion with Nissa on how best to do this. Nahiri's approach appears to be sort of a technological approach using dangerous artifacts which destroy and dominate nature. Where Nissa's approach is the mystical one of using magic, the life force of the plane, and nature to heal Zendikar. Most MTG players probably admire Nissa's noble savage approach, but in everyday life, they act like Nahiri and use computers and smart phones and cars. They consume lots of resources and cause pollution and basically try to make the world better for themselves by taming, subduing, and destroying nature.