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New Kings and Generals animated historical documentary on the history of China and East Asia will focus on the Nanman, also known as Hundred Yue and Baiyue, who were the indigenous peoples of Southern China and Northern Vietnam. This video will cover their society, economics, warfare and much more, focusing on the conflicts between them and Han Chinese during the Han dynasty and the Three Kingdoms period.
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Комментарии : 6 тыс.   
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 4 года назад
Support us and your Total War addiction: store.steampowered.com/app/1299591/Total_War_THREE_KINGDOMS__The_Furious_Wild/? - This is a truly massive expansion!
@ArpanDe
@ArpanDe 4 года назад
Nice video
@夏士莲欧莱雅
@夏士莲欧莱雅 4 года назад
Point out a mistake, Dongyi is not in North Korea, it is near Shandong Province
@juliuscaesar8925
@juliuscaesar8925 4 года назад
Great Video! Very Enlightening.
@Perfectedketchup
@Perfectedketchup 4 года назад
Total war addiction is a pretty accurate description of what I have
@khuret1773
@khuret1773 4 года назад
I think you You missed out on Eastern Part of India region bordering Myanmar Where we have Lots of tribes, different dialects... DM me
@Milos111Zivkov
@Milos111Zivkov 4 года назад
These people were treated by Chinese the same way Romans treated Celts. The parallels are very weird - both were amazing blacksmiths, divided into hundreds and thousands of different clans and tribes with varying language differences. Celts were amazing horsemen while Nanman were great sailors. Both got assimilated by those who considered them barbarians. Amazing.
@Milos111Zivkov
@Milos111Zivkov 4 года назад
@@cudanmang_theog Vietnam stronk!
@thewanderingrey8830
@thewanderingrey8830 4 года назад
I wonder if there are tribes in Europe that consider themselves to be direct Celtic descendants with Celtic languages. Even Vietnamese people can still claim kinship to some of the tribes in China that speak Sino-Vietnamese languages. The "assimiliation" of Yue was never complete with the presence of many of their direct tribal descendants making up of China's recognized minorities...
@obsidianstatue
@obsidianstatue 4 года назад
@@cudanmang_theog LOL not assimilated politically, but culturally, vietnam is just a small version of China. it's a shame that you guys couldn't develop a written language. and had to adapt the Latin alphabet. should've kept the Chinese characters or alter it to suit your spoken language.
@rickr9435
@rickr9435 4 года назад
@@thewanderingrey8830 the irish?
@TKN_NTBY
@TKN_NTBY 3 года назад
@@rickr9435 Exactly what I thought, Also Weish I guess
@isaweesaw
@isaweesaw 4 года назад
I love this channel's obscure topics. I'd never heard of 90% of this stuff till you guys came along
@navox933
@navox933 4 года назад
I also really appreciate Creative Assembly for always sponsoring those vids, i love playing Total War and watching this always gets me in the mood.
@labkone3921
@labkone3921 4 года назад
FAQs
@juliuscaesar8925
@juliuscaesar8925 4 года назад
Me too
@summersong5876
@summersong5876 4 года назад
SCINTILLAM DEI whats the name of the video?
@Mephisto43
@Mephisto43 4 года назад
Obscure to the Western world. Not to China and South-east Asia for example.
@LaughableSynonyms
@LaughableSynonyms 4 года назад
Im Maori and I wholeheartedly believe that some of my ancestors came from somewhere near the South China Sea. It's no coincidence that our language is exactly the same or has similar words to our Asian counterparts.
@ANTSEMUT1
@ANTSEMUT1 4 года назад
@Paul Frei plus more protein in their diet.
@A_K808
@A_K808 3 года назад
Do you think it's just Maori or all Polynesians?
@A_K808
@A_K808 3 года назад
@@LuisAldamizWell, I'm in college right now, and what I've learned in my Hawaiian studies class (I'm Hawaiian, btw) is that the Polynesians originated from mainland southeast Asia to south Indonesia and then found their way to the Polynesian islands. IDK how true that is, but it's a possibility
@gimyuwon
@gimyuwon 3 года назад
@@A_K808 Taiwan, Mainland Southeast Asia are different.. they are Austroasiatic not Austronesian.
@gimyuwon
@gimyuwon 3 года назад
@Charles Huang Not really lol
@samiamrg7
@samiamrg7 3 года назад
They’re legacy reminds me a lot of the Gauls of Europe. A lot of information about them comes from records written by other cultures who considered them “barbarians,” but they in fact were extremely diverse and had a sophisticated culture. They were eventually conquered and assimilated by a powerful neighbor, but still live on in surprising places.
@samiamrg7
@samiamrg7 3 года назад
Even the Trưng sisters are comparable to Boudicca and the last-ditch uprising of the Icenni Gauls.
@weishi9804
@weishi9804 Год назад
​@@samiamrg7please look up monument of Sister‘s conquer, the sister wad sold out by tribe chiefs, in return for continuation of right over lower class Vietnamese.
@weishi9804
@weishi9804 Год назад
The sister choose wrong Chinese Emperor to rebel, who hold the record of leading 10,000 men to defeat 400,000 army.
@damiann4734
@damiann4734 Год назад
​@@weishi9804Doesn't matter if the Trung sister lost then. They started a legacy and won in the end.
@fayhay8011
@fayhay8011 Год назад
The thing of what happen to the Nanman & not to the Celts is that the Nanman transforms into 3 distinct groups (Kra-Dai,Austronesia,Austro-asiatic) & one of them manage to explore & settle almost half of Earth's globe (Austronesia)
@caocao4731
@caocao4731 4 года назад
Speaking as a Northern Thai;(albeit of Han Chinese descent) I went to Yunnan on vacation and visited a town dominated by the Dai people.(Xishuangbanna in mandarin) Their cultures and traditions were exactly the same as at home, even the food, and the local dialect.
@kleuafflatus
@kleuafflatus 4 года назад
Haha my friend told me the same thing, but the other way around: her grandma is from the countryside of Kunming and speaks a dialect. She went to north Thailand with a group of friends last year and only she understood what they were saying
@R4x0
@R4x0 4 года назад
@@MrGod47 that's what I heard too. Now we have corroboration.
@ngevacorp
@ngevacorp 4 года назад
Maybe ppl ran off to the south to avoid the war and took the land and became Thailand
@caocao4731
@caocao4731 4 года назад
@@ngevacorp That's exactly what happened. It wasn't a single event, but a slow migration south that basically kicked off each time a Chinese Dynasty collapsed. By the time the Tai people arrived in what is now Thailand, the Cambodians were weakening as an empire. We just sort of...gave them a push down the stairs >_>. I think that's why they hate us, ha ha.
@LeSethX
@LeSethX 4 года назад
I like to think of myself as knowledgeable in history in general, yet amazingly I had never even heard of the Nanman before this video (although I've never accepted China's claim that over 90% of the country is ethnically Han Chinese)
@rbclc
@rbclc 4 года назад
Our tribe (Biaju/Ngadju)ancestors came from Yunan Region in Southern China...Even now in our island of Borneo, there are hundreds of tribes with different dialects and languages yet share almost identical cultural roots with each others, hence we refer to all of our tribes as D'yak/Dayak (Which means: "People" or "Those who dwell in") then followed by region or villages where it came from. As example, my tribe is Dayak Biaju/Ngadju which means "Those who dwell in inner region of the island" or "People of the inner region". Our closest kin are the Dayak Ot Danum (Those who dwell on the rivers/riverside), and Dayak Bakoempai (Those who dwell on the grasslands).
@juch3
@juch3 4 года назад
The more recent out of Taiwan theory is more widely accepted now as it has better linguistic evidence supporting it.
@Patrick-wr9bg
@Patrick-wr9bg 4 года назад
Yup,dayak people linguistically and culturally related to the Malays and Indonesian ancestor Austronesian people as stated in this video
@Supitcha2023
@Supitcha2023 4 года назад
Can we understand each other? I am zhuang Nanning Guangxi ( Quang Tay).
@chinmungkuan8551
@chinmungkuan8551 3 года назад
I'm from Sabah too , never know or hear dayak from Yunnan . Where you get the info ?
@maryllthemusicman1318
@maryllthemusicman1318 3 года назад
@@chinmungkuan8551 his info is likely from the older theory of proto-malayic migration down from Yunnan into Sundaland/Maritime SEA while a large genetic component of those living in Western SEA is from these peoples, likely the progenitor of Austroasiatic languages (Vietnamese, Aslian, Cambodian, Munda), the majority genetic component and definite linguistic origin of the peoples of the Malay Archipelago (ergo including the Dayaks in Borneo) is of the Austronesian family that started in South China before moving over to Taiwan around 3000~2000 BC The "Out of Taiwan" theory is currently the newer and more accepted theory of the two
@michael43216
@michael43216 4 года назад
The art in this video is breath taking. I don't know how you do it.
@Jumpoable
@Jumpoable 3 года назад
Cantonese here. An absolute MASTERPIECE. I prostrate to your scholarship & production skills. I've never seen such a detailed English summary of Nanman & Baiyue. Only 1 thing, it's Meng Huo not Hou!
@jackjackyphantom8854
@jackjackyphantom8854 3 года назад
Cantonese are a subgroup of Han-Chinese, isn't it? The Natives of Guangdong and Guangxi were the Tai-Kadai peoples, and Zhuang for example are a surviving indigenous group in Guangxi.
@rqjj1502
@rqjj1502 3 года назад
@@jackjackyphantom8854 Cantoneses are mix of Baiyue & Han. Han culture and gene in dominant position. Similar with Hokkiens. People in Guangxi are more similar to Baiyue than Cantonese. The Hakka is the Han immigrant for Central plain.
@rqjj1502
@rqjj1502 3 года назад
@@jackjackyphantom8854 The invasion and conquer from Han to Baiyue is long ago which make it impossible to distinguish clearly Han and Baiyue people In China.
@rqjj1502
@rqjj1502 3 года назад
@@jackjackyphantom8854 The assimilation start approximatly after Conquer of Baiyue in Han dynasty. At that time the North China (region such as Henan, Shandong) have significant population and economic superiority than south. There are sevaral migration activity from north to south after that for war and natural disaster, which weak the influence of Baiyue in south and move the economic center to south (till today). That is why south Chinese language is so different with the mandarin (which is from north).
@rqjj1502
@rqjj1502 3 года назад
@@jackjackyphantom8854 Han Chinese have huge population number advantage than group around because of many reasons, which significantly help to assimilation. These assimilation also amplify the Han or we so-called Chinese. That is why we have so large Han Chinese group today. Similar thing happen on Manchu conqueror. They move to Han culture under the incredibly huge population dominant of Han Chinese. Their area of origin, manchuria, also become Han Chinese region by the migration activity called ChuangGuandong at the last phase of Qing empire.
@gudea5207
@gudea5207 4 года назад
Kings and General: the craziest part is they let this guy go seven times Me: there’s a man who can control animals like a land aquaman and this is what you are concerned about
@QuangHoang-ps3mm
@QuangHoang-ps3mm 4 года назад
Should he be called Terraman ?
@umjackd
@umjackd 4 года назад
@@QuangHoang-ps3mm AniMan is a hero name that's surprisingly not used yet...
@fern1009
@fern1009 4 года назад
At least they clarified why the Nanman can use Tigers in the Total War DLC - although I've yet to hear if that feature is turned off or modified on the non-romance mode as with most other elements from a romance run.
@Cassandra_Solidor
@Cassandra_Solidor 4 года назад
@@fern1009 They are not. Records mode also allows Elephants, tigers and some of the abilities.
@death2denemy
@death2denemy 4 года назад
Lol!!
@charlielee5906
@charlielee5906 4 года назад
As a speaker of Cantonese, i can understand some Vietnamese words amongst other words from south East Asian countries. Very interesting 🤔
@gnak2
@gnak2 4 года назад
well vietnamese do refer cantonese as brothers and more closely related to them than chinese
@charlielee5906
@charlielee5906 4 года назад
SCINTILLAM DEI go for it. And it sounds like a rollercoaster cuz it has 9 tones compared to mandarin which has 4 😂
@nguyenquang4707
@nguyenquang4707 4 года назад
Me too some Vietnamese and Cantonese words are suprisingly similar. In addition, my father is Taiwanese and my mother isVietnamese therefore I realize that vietnamese and hokkien (a language is widely used in Taiwan) are quite similar.
@boruizou4285
@boruizou4285 4 года назад
@@gnak2 Lmao,I Chinese and cantonese,dont associate me with Vietnam like we are the same people.
@xXxSkyViperxXx
@xXxSkyViperxXx 4 года назад
it is because vietnamese also mainly borrowed from cantonese during classical chinese era
@carlosnevarez4003
@carlosnevarez4003 4 года назад
Hah! I remember the Nanman from ROTK 8. Once you conquered the Southwest provinces, they paid tribute to you and offered you Elephants. Thank you for covering China during the this period ^.^
@BritskNguyen
@BritskNguyen 4 года назад
I hate that campaign, the elephant can knock you down and push you down to a corner and you're dead because when you stand up you're immediately knocked down again.
@sl6706
@sl6706 4 года назад
ROTK 8 will always be my favorite of the franchise.
@carlosnevarez4003
@carlosnevarez4003 4 года назад
@@sl6706 Same here. Lord knows how many hours and smokes I sank into that game 😂
@NobleKorhedron
@NobleKorhedron 4 года назад
ROTK...?
@andymeese8249
@andymeese8249 4 года назад
NobleKorhedron Romance of the Three Kingdoms
@wewenang5167
@wewenang5167 3 года назад
The Malays still used that palm wood armor during Portuguese occupation in the Peninsula. We call the wood Kayu Nibong. it is super hard, even the British said this in their records that an 18 century rifle bullet cannot penetrate it. That is why most fort that was build by Indonesian and Malaysian and also khmer used Nibong wood as palisade.
@剑心符文
@剑心符文 5 месяцев назад
可以用火呀😂诸葛亮周瑜都用火消灭了南方少数民族
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea 4 года назад
All because of LGZ's fantastically exaggerated tellings in the Romance, many historians doubted Meng Huo even existed. Now the reason why Zhuge Liang had fire spewing contraptions was because of the fabled wicker armor (which was probably just Rattan) the Nanman soldiers wore, which incidentally made them invulnerable to attacks while also allowing them to fight with incredible speed and swiftness. This mystical wicker armor made Meng Huo's troops nigh unstoppable but like everything else made of wood was susceptible to fire. So Zhuge Liang needed to find a way to burn Meng Huo's troops, which he did by inventing a anachronistic flamethrower. Zhuge Liang's incendiary weapons by the way was most likely based on the Pen Huo Qi (噴火器) or "fire spraying device". It first made an appearance on the battlefields of China in 919 CE during the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period, which took place at least seven hundred years after the Romance of the Three Kingdoms timeline. These types of flamethrowers could shoot a continuous stream of naptha and was a highly effective weapon. They could be used to burn down enemy fortifications, mounted on walls and towers to rain down fire or project walls of flame against incoming hostile forces, and can even be placed on a four wheeled pushcart to sow terror on the battlefield.
@thanhmai2878
@thanhmai2878 4 года назад
Ho Lee Shi personally I feel like the elephant part is legit because many Viet armies in history were famed for using elephants.
@mxn1948
@mxn1948 4 года назад
@Ho Lee Shi the tigers are probably fake, the elephants are probably real, chinese states in the warring states period used them in war
@fyang1429
@fyang1429 4 года назад
@@mxn1948 the warring states period was over four hundred years before the three kingdoms period, at which elephant was already extinct in northern China. I had read somewhere that they were still used until 5-6 century CE in the southwest though.
@Gongolongo
@Gongolongo 4 года назад
@@mxn1948 tigers are real. They just can't be controlled so well to be used in large scale in an army though. War tigers are a thing in ancient China, just not very common.
@Gongolongo
@Gongolongo 4 года назад
The flamethrower only has archeological evidence dating back to 919. But most people who study Chinese history know that there are new findings very often proving things that seem anachronistic. For example, Qin Shi Huang Di was thought to be a mythical figure head from 4000 BC. We recently found his necropolis and proved he is real only about 30 years ago. When I was younger, the first Chinese empire with evidence was about 2000 BC. But now we have evidence that shows existence of an empire 8000 BC.
@thewanderingrey8830
@thewanderingrey8830 4 года назад
Shamoke: "All we had to do, was follow the damn river, Liu Bei!"
@sim8051
@sim8051 4 года назад
Lmao only the real will get this one
@bryan3792
@bryan3792 4 года назад
@@FD_Stalker Next day, **fire**
@Derna1804
@Derna1804 4 года назад
@@sim8051 Luo Guanzhong likes his armies well-done.
@nore5992
@nore5992 3 года назад
Only the OG will remember this
@porothashawarma2339
@porothashawarma2339 6 месяцев назад
WOOOOOAAAHH
@chekim2
@chekim2 3 года назад
This episode is exceptionally well written, the chronology, the names, the convergence of various countries/people's origins, the maps, everything is top quality, highly educational and very entertaining nevertheless. I've watched many episodes on this channel, they are all pretty good, but this one stand out by a far margin ahead, IMO. THANK YOU.
@fredgunon7066
@fredgunon7066 11 месяцев назад
Thanks the archive of the Chinese documents...some documents of the encounter with greek and other civilization is still exist nowdays
@tranquil_dude
@tranquil_dude 4 года назад
Two major aspects of general Yue culture not mentioned in this video are their headhunting (猎首) and affinity for water battles (好水战)。 Also, there's another notable woman warrior among the Yue, who was usually just referred to as the Maiden of Yue (越女) in the historical records. She was an accomplished swordswoman during the Warring States period, said to have come from the "Southern Forests" near or within the State of Yue. She expounded one of the earliest attested martial arts theories in China (complete with application of Yin-Yang concept). She imparted her skills to the State of Yue's army and thus had a hand in helping the State of Yue to conquer the State of Wu.
@tranquil_dude
@tranquil_dude Год назад
@江永生 the 越女论剑 story was first mentioned in Han Dynasty records. Afterwards it was also referenced in other places, including a martial arts treatise by Chang Naizhou, all predating Jin Yong's time. Jin Yong's contribution is just that: to turn it into a novel.
@ColoniaMurder20
@ColoniaMurder20 Год назад
woman in the Philippines still follow our ancient culture today.. woman in our country always lead our country and hold higher position in government.
@yosudathapa6150
@yosudathapa6150 Год назад
Can you please share more about the headhunting part because, in India the ethnic group of Nagas people has the historical background of headhunting, and they are one of the tribes Communities and according to the folklore and wars tactics they are really good in hiding.
@ColoniaMurder20
@ColoniaMurder20 Год назад
@@yosudathapa6150 headhunting is very common among tribes in Maritime Southeast Asia during pre colonial. here in the Philippines we have famous female headhunter tribe against japanese during world war 2.
@yosudathapa6150
@yosudathapa6150 Год назад
@@ColoniaMurder20 oh that's really cool, even here during the British colonial rule they were not able to capture the Nagas area because they were really good in war tactics and they practice headhunting and the person with the highest number of enemies heads are considered as warriors .thank you for the informations
@luigidisanpietro3720
@luigidisanpietro3720 4 года назад
We studied this migration down south theory in the Philippines... (out of Taiwan Theory) Our professor, being an Archeologist and Anthropologist stated how ancient tools dug up was older in the northern parts of the country (Batanes Islands,) but younger to the southernmost regions of our nation... A "pattern of migration southwards." This study is relatively new and alien to most Filipinos, since the accepted version was that our ancestors came from the South....
@xXxSkyViperxXx
@xXxSkyViperxXx 4 года назад
sadly they completely glossed over the philippines again in this video
@duovaduo1653
@duovaduo1653 4 года назад
Can you suggest me some books on the migration topic 🙏
@duovaduo1653
@duovaduo1653 4 года назад
@Zhejun Zhang do check out the Naga tribe of North East India, my tribe may be the remnant of the Nanman tribe.
@glennzoo
@glennzoo 4 года назад
In the 19th century it was assumed that Filipino's are descended from Malay's, the Taiwan connection wasn't established yet. Sadly the Philippines didn't catch up with the facts yet.
@duovaduo1653
@duovaduo1653 4 года назад
@Hernando Malinche How do you know that the Nagas are Sino Tibetan ?
@julioramos1544
@julioramos1544 4 года назад
Man, I've been watching your guys' vids since you made it to the frontpage of reddit that one time a few years ago. Thanks for all the content!
@zechangl3903
@zechangl3903 4 года назад
and interesting thing is, the chinese name of Vietnam is "Yue Nan", which means South of Yue
@baochi456
@baochi456 4 года назад
Or Yues of the South.
@baochi456
@baochi456 4 года назад
Or Southwards? Cuz Viet/Yue means forward?
@keisukeketa4490
@keisukeketa4490 4 года назад
嘉隆元年(清嘉慶七年,1802年),阮福映建立阮朝。次年表请清朝册封“南越国王”,最终清仁宗嘉慶帝改以“越南国王”之名冊封,阮朝正式国号即为“越南”。这也是越南国名的由来,取代之前的名称「大越」,一直沿用至今。 “ 阮福映表请以「南越」二字锡封。上谕大学士等曰:「南越」之名,所包甚广。考之前史,今广东、广西地亦在其内。阮福映即有安南,亦不过交趾故地,何得遽称「南越」?该国先有越裳旧地,后有安南全壤。天朝褒赐国号,著用「越南」二字,以「越」字冠其上,仍其先世疆域;以‘南’字列于下,表其新赐藩封;且在百越之南,著于《时宪书》内,将「安南」改为「越南」。 ” -- 《嘉庆重修一统志》卷五五三 Năm Gia Long thứ nhất (Năm Gia Khánh Thanh triều thứ 7, 1802), Nguyễn Phúc Ánh kiến lập Triều Nguyễn. Năm sau dâng biểu xin Thanh Triều sắc phong "Nam Việt quốc vương", cuối cùng Hoàng đế Thanh Nhân Tông Gia Khánh đổi tên ra sắc phong thành "Việt Nam quốc vương", Triều Nguyễn chính thức lấy quốc hiệu là "Việt Nam". Đây cũng là nguồn gốc tên nước Việt Nam, thay cho tên cũ trước đây là Đại Việt và dùng cho tới ngày nay. "Nguyễn Phúc Ánh đề nghị xin sắc phong hai chữ "Nam Việt". Các thượng dụ đại học sỹ (những người soạn chiếu thư cho hoàng đế) nói: cái tên Nam Việt vốn bao gồm vùng đất Quảng. Xét theo sử cũ gồm vùng đất Quảng Đông, Quảng Tây ngày nay. Nguyễn Phúc Ánh có được An Nam chẳng qua chỉ là vùng đất xưa của Giao Chỉ, sao có thể gọi là Nam Việt được? Nước ấy trước kia thuộc đất Việt Thường cũ, sau này hoàn toàn nằm trong vùng đất An Nam. Thiên triều nên ban quốc hiệu là "Việt Nam", đặt chữ Việt đứng trước biểu thị vẫn là cương vực đời cũ, ghép chữ Nam đứng sau là tên mới được sắc phong, lại là phía nam của Bách Việt, được ghi trong "Thời hiến thư", vậy đổi tên "An Nam" thành "Việt Nam". "Gia Khánh trùng tu nhất thống chí" quyển 553.
@baochi456
@baochi456 4 года назад
@@hanyawang4324 nhưng mà theo sử thì có vẻ họ là một liên minh giữa các quốc gia có văn hoá giống nhau? Theo sử thì hai bà trưng còn tập hợp được các quận ở miền Nam Trung Quốc được mà?
@baochi456
@baochi456 4 года назад
@@hanyawang4324 sử ta thì thế rồi nhưng sử Trung cx chép thế mà ?
@chefsanders9151
@chefsanders9151 4 года назад
Ive been to Viet Nam a few times. The Trong Sisters are considered the first of a long line of leaders who fought for Vietnamese independence that ended with Uncle Ho. They are revered and honored.
@chessonso2610
@chessonso2610 4 года назад
The BAI YUE: Ancestors of Southern Chinese people
@balo700
@balo700 4 года назад
Hi, the Trung Sisters, not Trong
@Harthorn
@Harthorn 4 года назад
@@balo700 Vietnamese women always strong, in past and in present :)
@Mikelowrey90
@Mikelowrey90 4 года назад
The trung sisters are heroes. Can’t say the same about Ho chi minh
@TheVietarmy
@TheVietarmy 4 года назад
@@Mikelowrey90 wtf Trung sisters rebellition was AD 11 AD 43, ho chi minh was modern vietnam , its fuking odd to compare people at different history
@f3wbs
@f3wbs 4 года назад
Kings and Generals always coming in the clutch.
@scooterati7066
@scooterati7066 4 года назад
Always got the best videos and topics. Learning while being entertained.
@walrus1074
@walrus1074 4 года назад
Jordan-esque
@fungisrock8955
@fungisrock8955 4 года назад
@GoodGirlKate the second tour lol
@kimjongunchien5652
@kimjongunchien5652 4 года назад
@GoodGirlKate This video so wrong about My country Việt Nam because this is history of china write .Everry thing is wrong because china aways p,redatory in every time in history of human. Ancient they p,redatory culture now they p,redatory technology of EU and USA . 1 bilion 400 people so idio,t .jj
@chessonso2610
@chessonso2610 4 года назад
HOKKIEN, CANTONESE, VIETNAMESE, HAKKA, TAIWANESE & TAIWAN ABORIGINES, ZHUANG, YI, MIAO, TANKA etc. All are brothers and sisters - Descended from THE PROUD and RICH BAI YUE PEOPLES.
@wilhelmreinhardt4643
@wilhelmreinhardt4643 4 года назад
The Yi people (Tibeto-Burman) of southern China actually recognize Meng Huo as one of their ancestors.
@chessonso2610
@chessonso2610 4 года назад
HOKKIEN, CANTONESE, VIETNAMESE, HAKKA, TAIWANESE & TAIWAN ABORIGINES, ZHUANG, YI, MIAO, TANKA etc. All are brothers and sisters - Descended from THE PROUD and RICH BAI YUE PEOPLES.
@mekichiew8282
@mekichiew8282 4 года назад
@Jacky Phantom well duh, but not like we ain't got baiyue blood in us, heck, historical "han" kingdoms that would pop up from time to time during "China done fucked up" periods still uses their baiyue names (Wu, Min, etc.). Let's put it this way, even if you're only 30% black in the US, that still means you're DESCENDED (Not black, but DESCENDED) from black people. So your argument is moot.
@MRT-co1sd
@MRT-co1sd 3 года назад
@@mekichiew8282 It's more like 2%.
@mekichiew8282
@mekichiew8282 3 года назад
@@MRT-co1sd Eeeh, i would say it's more like up to 15% the further south you go from SuNan(South of Nanjing, North South divider of China), we're pretty distinctive physically from the northerners.
@magine7682
@magine7682 3 года назад
as an YI people,i am more like the self-called nationality name “Nasurp”,Menghuo‘s history is stigmatized in pop culture ,especially by the fictional book The Romance of The Three Kingdoms 。and sadly most of the Yi people were assimilated in YunNan province, they’ve forgotten the root of their own culture, lost the identification of the nationality, they are ,most of them , no different from Han people。 and more,Nasurp has a very unique culture system,mythology,origin,history,religion,language,lifestyle。there are many nationalities have extincted in history,thank god we remain exist (about 10 million population so far)。
@mosesracal6758
@mosesracal6758 4 года назад
Its very interesting, as someone who is part of the Malayan people group, the possibility that our very culture was once a culture borrowed but forgotten is very fascinating. Especially the tattoo, which are an integral part of all Southeast Asian and Pacific peoples. To have such an influence in our culture - it is surprising to have never heard of the Baiyue. The Baiyue were basically the Pheonicians of the East, colonizing large swaths of maritime Asia and the Pacific.
@but_at_what_cost
@but_at_what_cost Год назад
百越并不是一个民族,南蛮和百越也不是一回事,这视频懂得一点皮毛就在那里胡说八道。汉语叙事体系称所有南方未开化的人和地区为蛮,夏商时楚地(今天湖南湖北)是南蛮、苗蛮。百越在基因上是接近的,但是发展程度天差地别。5000年的良渚人,也是越人之一,已经有国家形态,建设了全世界最早的水利工程。而汉朝时期(2000年前)的越南还是穴居状态,非常原始。
@MarkzOng
@MarkzOng Год назад
The worst part happening in the southern part of South East Asia is the importation of Arabic culture that has little roots to this region. The folks only want to destroy and assimilate others into the desert belief. Unfortunately many local blindly follow and a lot of historical practice and belief are forgotten or deny.
@ge7sur3nka34
@ge7sur3nka34 Год назад
what is malayan culture?.
@MarkzOng
@MarkzOng Год назад
@@ge7sur3nka34 a good example are Tarian Mak Yong and wayang kulit. TMY is even banned in PAS states as it deem unholy ... You probably doesn't even know what's your culture heritage when asking what's the culture. Too bad a lot of folks are brainwashed since young of everything outside of what some 7th century man did is not right. They lack logical thinking or critical thinking for themselves.
@ge7sur3nka34
@ge7sur3nka34 Год назад
@@MarkzOng I am from Mori tribe and even tho i know wayang kulit, it is a javanese culture, certainly not mine and malay. Back to my question, what is malayan culture?
@JOGA_Wills
@JOGA_Wills 4 года назад
"You shall never subdue me Zhuge Liang, Never" - Meng Huo, King of the Nanman
@liveshow123456789
@liveshow123456789 4 года назад
The broader idea is that it will never subdue the Baiyue people. And to this day it is impossible to subdue Vietnam after 2000 years
@gcyang1939
@gcyang1939 4 года назад
then been captured 7 times😂
@liveshow123456789
@liveshow123456789 4 года назад
Jorel Williams Chinese fiction story. Can't believe anything Chinese
@NoverMaC
@NoverMaC 4 года назад
@@liveshow123456789 never is a strong word
@梁天一-m8m
@梁天一-m8m 4 года назад
@@liveshow123456789 Oh yeah? Why believe in Chinese money and sell your women to those poor Chinese peasants?
@brandonjoy8639
@brandonjoy8639 4 года назад
This is easily, the go to channel for world history. I've learned more from this channel in 1 year, than I did in 4 years of schooling. ✌
@Curtistopsidae
@Curtistopsidae 4 года назад
This might be my favorite Chinese history video. It's so hard to find info on the Yue or really even any historical minority of antiquity, and you not only presented it beautifully, you somehow did it *from the Yue perspective* despite the lack of great sources. Keep the vids like this coming!
@peiopascualhernando2236
@peiopascualhernando2236 4 года назад
this is one of the most important channels in the whole youtube
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 4 года назад
Thank you for your kind words!
@Neatling
@Neatling 4 года назад
Thank you for making me aware of this obscure part of history. Very interesting and well put together video.
@jylefranzcayabyab2982
@jylefranzcayabyab2982 4 года назад
At last, an episode for the Baiyue people. I used to look for episodes like this as well as like the imjin war. Finally, you created one with a kings and generals version. Great Video!!!
@George-ph6qo
@George-ph6qo 3 года назад
I am stunned by the level of detail you managed to assemble. I can remember a snippet of history from a recent Vietnamese worker at my job. It was fascinating then and even more so forty years later.
@anchovytrex
@anchovytrex 4 года назад
Brilliantly done. Especially the visuals and the art. And amazing research on your behalf mate. Cheers! Looking forward for more ❤️
@NibNumbly
@NibNumbly 3 года назад
Spent a lot of time with Vietnamese people (Southern and Northern). Their history is extremely interesting and the peoples are much more diverse than most assume. The Southern, Northern, Central highland (Montagnard) people are very different from each other.
@witchdokturr
@witchdokturr 4 года назад
Despite our tragic loss of the history and (most of) the culture of groups like the Nanman, it's of paramount importance that we continue to spread whatever knowledge we do have of them, I'd say it's doubly important in light of the loss. Even as a child I was frustrated with how most history I came across only focused on the west, with bits and pieces devoted to other areas of the world, and usually told from a clearly biased perspective. RU-vid, for all it's flaws, has expanded my horizons farther than everything else I read and saw before. I will always hold a space in my heart for those people and cultures that never got to share their experience. Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to tell a more complete Human story
@samgyeopsal569
@samgyeopsal569 Год назад
Hokkien and Cantonesw have many basic words which are related to Thai and thus probably remnants of the Nanman/ Baiyue languages.
@mickker841
@mickker841 4 года назад
This was a great video on a subject hard to find info on. Having been to Hunan and Guangxi in particular, and seeing the minority people like the Miao and Zhuong it explains a lot. Also the museum in Guangzhou of the tomb of the Nanyue emperor is worth seeing .
@MasaroZilian
@MasaroZilian 3 года назад
This might just be the information i've been looking for for years
@R3GARnator
@R3GARnator 4 года назад
The Han chinese lived on open plains, while the Nanman lived in jungles and mountains. That's what made them hold out so long compared to everywhere else inside the walled in pen that is China (mountains and deserts block most access to the outside world not through the sea).
@nganguyenthi4736
@nganguyenthi4736 3 года назад
Not really , vietnam was low land farmer in red river delta not mountain people ( heck red river delta are pretty flat
@littleninjavangchhia9099
@littleninjavangchhia9099 3 года назад
Originally han chinese are also forest dwellers and have tatoos on their face and body.
@RealManHasLongName
@RealManHasLongName 3 года назад
@@littleninjavangchhia9099 Ha, we wish we have some real forests. All we have in central china are plains and crops. Thanks yellow river.
@littleninjavangchhia9099
@littleninjavangchhia9099 3 года назад
@@RealManHasLongName There is no forest in yellow river?
@dwargonedragon794
@dwargonedragon794 3 года назад
@@littleninjavangchhia9099 No. The ancestors of Han and Chin people are nomad herders who built temporary cave houses. Some still do it to this day. Central China is pretty much an open plain.
@simenonhonore
@simenonhonore 4 года назад
Fascinating exploration of this part of Chinese history, particularly in its connexion with neighbouring peoples.
@DanfuLiu
@DanfuLiu 4 года назад
Now we know why the Viet hates China that much
@SVanTha
@SVanTha 4 года назад
The oldest walled cities in China are actually not from the north, but from the south and from the regions of the Hundred Yue and Nanman. Their ancestors were the first to have large scale rice agriculture which allowed their civilizations to develop into city-states similar to Greece. Archaeological finds not only show the fine metallurgy mentioned in the video, but fine pottery and jewelry (earliest forms of worked jade was found in the south). Evidence from other ancient sites in the north and south showed a series of trade networks. As for the people, the genetic evidence found at ancient sites match those of modern Austronesian and Hmong-Mien speakers. It's very likely that the ancestors of these groups of people made up the Nanman and Hundred-Yue people.
@yeluabaoji7222
@yeluabaoji7222 4 года назад
China and russia are the two giant monsters killed and erased many civilization nearby them. The Luo Yue, Lac Viet were the ancestors of the ethnic Vietnamese
@generalvonkek2496
@generalvonkek2496 4 года назад
@@yeluabaoji7222 Nah, they did nothing wrong.
@Intranetusa
@Intranetusa 4 года назад
@@yeluabaoji7222 The Lac Viet were ancestors of both modern Vietnamese and modern southern Chinese people. And with southern people such as the Yue tribes migrating north and with different northern Chinese ethnic groups migrating south, they all got mixed over thousands of years. The modern southern Chinese, Vietnamese, Cambodian, etc people are a mixture of many different ethnic groups due to migration, conquest, etc. As for erasing smaller civilizations or assimilating them, all civilizations and empires that conquer other nations do that.
@eugeneng7064
@eugeneng7064 4 года назад
Fun fact: Nanman words are not only a substrate in the southern Sinitic languages, but also do have a presence in the northern varieties. One example is 江 pronounced 'jiang' in Mandarin and 'gang' in some form in the sourthern varieties. This word is such a common word that no one notices it is a loan and considered so Chinese that you can see borrowed by Korean and Japanese as 강 (gang as in Gangnam, the area south of the river) and こう (kō) respectively. It even displaced the Sinitic word 水 from it's original meaning of 'river' and took the meaning of 'water'. This must have happened very early on, as both Korean and Japanese borrowed the character to represent water sometime in the 7th Century. As a person who speaks Hokkien, it is quite astounding to hear some similarities with Vietnamese words sometimes. 'Dam' is wet in Hokkien, and it is rather similar in Vietnamese. I now wonder what words might be Tai-Kadai/Austronesian/Austroasiatic loans when I speak.
@TheXanian
@TheXanian 4 года назад
The word for river in Zhuang is "dah", and has nothing to do with "jiang" or "gang". The word for river in Hlai is "nom", again quite distinct from "jiang" or "gang". You shouldn't generalize, not all Baiyue people spoke the same language. It's possible that "jiang" or "gang" wasn't borrowed from Baiyue, but from some other tribes situated closer to the Central Plains, like Hmong-Mien for instance.
@eugeneng7064
@eugeneng7064 4 года назад
@@TheXanian From 'The Austroasiatics in Ancient South China: Some Lexical Evidence' by Norman J. and L.M. Tsu 'We now come to old AA (Austroasiatic) loan words in Chinese 江 krong/kang/chiang 'Yangtze River', or 'river' @River in Mon-Khmer: VN (Vietnamese) sông; Bahnar, Sedang krong; Katu kurung; Bru klong; Gar, Koho rong; Laʔven dakhom; Biat n'hong; Hre khroang; Old Mon krung. Cf. Tib kluri 'river'; Thai khlɔ:ŋ 'canal' [...] 'We will now try to show the Chinese first came into contact with the Yangtze in Hupei, anciently part of the Ch'u Kingdom. This must be the region where the Chinese first came into contact with AA's and borrowed chiang from them. [...] Textual and epigraphic evidence indicates the word chiang came into the Chinese language between 500 and 1000 B.C. Mao Heng's commentary to the Odes also assigned all poems celebrating the southern conquest to the reign of King Hsüan (827-781 B.C.). The first half of the Millenium B.C can therefore be taken as a tentative date for the AA presence in the Middle Yangtze region.' Also did you even read what I said? 'I now wonder what words might be Tai-Kadai/Austronesian/Austroasiatic loans when I speak. '
@TheXanian
@TheXanian 4 года назад
@@eugeneng7064 I've read what you said and I think you shouldn't lump all southern languages together. 江 isn't a Tai-Kadai word nor an Austronesian word, but only Austroasiatic. And yes I agree that it's likely from some tribes in Hubei, hence closer to the Central Plains than Baiyue.
@eugeneng7064
@eugeneng7064 4 года назад
@@TheXanian I think you're missing the point. The point is it still isn't Sinitic and I wonder which words aren't Sinitic when I speak.
@TheXanian
@TheXanian 4 года назад
@@eugeneng7064 You can't just label all Non-Sinitic languages as one group, since they have many differences among themselves too.
@vannamnguyen8182
@vannamnguyen8182 4 года назад
Ancient Vietnam was a combination of the Lac Viet and Au Viet tribes to form the Au Lac clan, to establish the Xich Dem state, and later to Van Lang. During thousands of years of building the country, nearly half of the time was under the slave domination of the North (Ancient China). Vietnam was suppressed for a total of 1,000 years by the domination of ancient China. A lot of historical culture and customs have disappeared. The ancient Chinese forced the Vietnamese to learn ancient Chinese characters and live according to their customs. Avoiding assimilation and forgetting their origins, the ancient Vietnamese relied on ancient Han characters to create a language called Hán-Nôm, pronounced by the Vietnamese way of calling Han. The peak was in the years 1426, after the Ho dynasty fell into the hands of the Ming, and the Ming dynasty burned and destroyed all books and customs of the ancient Vietnamese.
@vannamnguyen8182
@vannamnguyen8182 4 года назад
I really feel sorry for the Vietnamese people. Through many wars and yoke of domination the slavery of the foreigners
@vannamnguyen8182
@vannamnguyen8182 4 года назад
The ancient Vietnamese are Matriarchs. Women benefit greatly. However, it was later dominated by the North (Ancient China). Because Confucianism was too intrusive. So gradually change. Besides, the beliefs of the old Vietnamese were all living beings. Worship all kinds of mascots
@roadlife4372
@roadlife4372 3 года назад
biased
@nganguyenthi4736
@nganguyenthi4736 3 года назад
@@tanyeweestudent6856 well it was origin nam viet but qing reject fearing we claming southern china lol , let be real vietnam wont claim southern china too much han
@louyht7
@louyht7 Год назад
@@vannamnguyen8182 At least we don't have to wear pony tail like the Han 😂
@yutakago1736
@yutakago1736 4 года назад
In the "Romance of the three kingdoms", the purpose of capturing and releasing Meng Ho 7 times is to show the rebel leader that he can rebel 100 times and Zhu GeLiang can defeat him 100 times. Meng Ho's self-confidence is completely destroyed and his ability to raise another rebel army is also destroyed. Nobody is stupid enough to follow a rebel leader that always lose in battle. That is why Zhu Ge Liang is the best military leader to defeat insurgents.
@zurinarctus1329
@zurinarctus1329 4 года назад
Lac Long Quan wasn’t the first king/emperor of Baiyue confederation. Shennong was the first god emperor of Baiyue nations. Kinh Duong Vuong was the son of Emperor Ming and father of Lac Long Quan. Kinh Duong Vuong was the first leader of Baiyue peoples. Au Co was the daughter of Emperor Ai, elder brother of Kinh Duong Vuong. Both China and Vietnam believed in the historicity of Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors period. It’s rather a really complex issue. Vietnam and China have come into an agreement of not ostracizing each other based on historical past. This is a reason why you barely see China mentioned any element of Vietnam in Chinese history, while Vietnam doesn’t make any media of glorifying the killings of Chinese (like those anti-japan movie in China). Because of this, Vietnam has been very quiet on the claims of Nanyue. Ho Chi Minh himself as well as all Vietnamese mandarins openly recognized the legitimacy of Zhao Tuo. China again fears separatism, so Vietnam respects Chinese sovereignty through quietly not mentioning Nanyue stories.
@datduong2028
@datduong2028 4 года назад
You're not Vietnamese, why do you know about this so clearly?
@lelamvn91
@lelamvn91 4 года назад
I'm surprised at your understanding on this complicated matter. To be honest, most Vietnamese people don't know it.
@zurinarctus1329
@zurinarctus1329 4 года назад
@@datduong2028 Bởi vì tôi biết sự thật thế nào. Thực sự, sử gia thời phong kiến không cho rằng có chuyện 1000 năm Bắc Thuộc mà chỉ cho là 1000 năm vô chủ. Lúc Mã Viện đem quân đánh phía Nam, thì ông ta phát hiện ra là bản đồ thời Đông Hán là bố láo vì có quá nhiều tộc người Việt không được lưu vào hệ thống hộ khẩu. Cuộc dẹp loạn Trưng Vương thực ra là để kiểm kê lại hệ thống hộ khẩu ở phía Nam, nhưng người Hán vẫn thất bại khi vùng đất phía Nam luôn luôn xảy ra bất ổn. Ngoài vùng Lĩnh Nam quái đản, người Hán gần như để cho bọn Việt ở Vân Nam tự chủ suốt vài trăm năm, rồi vùng Phúc Kiến của Mân Việt cũ cũng có những người Việt đứng ra tự chủ đuổi người Hán khoảng vài thế kỷ. Sự kiểm soát của vùng đất phía Nam của chính quyền phía Bắc TQ thực sự quá hạn chế nên các tỉnh phía Nam TQ vẫn cực kỳ khác biệt cho đến tận bây giờ, Hong Kong là ví dụ điển hình khi họ vẫn cho mình khác biệt với Trung Hoa. Nếu bạn đọc tài liệu của người Hán vào thời Sĩ Nhiễp, họ phàn nàn là ở lại khu vực Lĩnh Nam như là đi tù ở vùng khi ho cò gáy. Người bản địa không chịu bỏ tục man di, và gần như công cuộc Hán hoá thất bại hoàn toàn. Còn chưa nói, là hào trưởng địa phương quá mạnh và có thể xây dưng quân đội dẹp toàn bộ người Hán. Mỗi lần người Hàn bình định lại mọi thứ, họ vẫn phải giữ gìn hệ thống hào trưởng với việc trả tiền và giữ gìn vị trí của người hào trưởng đã nổi loạn đó. Câu chuyện này y hệt như Mỹ đang bình định ở Afghanistan, và hàng chục đế chế khác đã từng cai trị Afghanistan. Bạn chiếm được vùng đất nhưng không thể bình định được con người với thiên nhiên khu vực này.
@zurinarctus1329
@zurinarctus1329 4 года назад
@@Joshua_Nguyen0630 Tôi khuyên bạn nên tìm một cách nói chuyện khác, vì cái con số kia là khá lỗ mãn. Bọn Tây không thích thằng nào dùng chủ nghĩa dân tộc cực đoan để tung hô thanh thế vì bản thân họ cũng không quan tâm là ngày xưa tổ tiên họ bị Lã Mã với Thiên Chúa Giáo triệt tiêu nền văn minh "man rợ" của Châu Âu. Thằng TQ ngày xưa cùng lắm giết được vài người để ra oai với dân bản địa trong khi chẳng thay đổi nhân tâm phản loại của Bách Việt, suốt ngàn năm. Bạn nên dùng số liệu khoảng triệu người chết thời Minh Thuộc vì đó mới thực sự có thể là lần Bắc Thuộc đầu tiên. Trước mấy 1000 năm kia, người Hán chỉ đem người đến định cư và cắm cái lá cờ để xác định chủ quyền vùng đất mặc dù họ không thể kiểm soát được nó.
@zurinarctus1329
@zurinarctus1329 4 года назад
@@cudanmang_theog Trên thế giới không có ai là dân tộc thuần chủng cả. Kể cả bọn Hán của TQ bây giờ đáng nhẽ ra phải gọi là Hồ Hán vì chúng nó bị Ngũ Hồ, Mông Cổ và Mãn Châu đồng hoá giết sạch. Tiếng Phồn Thể của TQ giờ rất giống tiếng nói của bọn du mục, trong khi văn hoá Hán cao siêu thì được người VN và Nam TQ gìn giữ (cụ thể là Đài Loan). Bạn có thể nói rằng người Việt là Hán thật còn bọn TQ hiện đại là Hán giả, vì bản thân các vị hoàng đế VN ta coi người Việt mình là Hán (theo mặt văn hoá-văn minh). Các cụ toàn gọi mình là Hán nhân, trong khi gọi bọn TQ là Bắc Quốc nhân hay là người Ngô. Cái sự thù hằn giữa TQ và VN xa xưa mang tính chính trị-văn hoá hơn là quân sự, vì người Việt cho mình là Hán thật còn bọn Bắc quốc là Hán giả. Kiểu như là bọn Đế Quốc Đông La Mã tranh luận với bọn Đế quốc La Mã Thần thánh xem ai là người La Mã thật, rồi sau này các cường quốc Châu Âu và Mỹ cũng tranh luận xem ai là La Mã thật nữa! Còn câu chuyện của Lý Tiến chỉ là ví dụ nhỏ. Vì đã có rất nhiều cuộc nổi loạn ở khắp phía Nam TQ, mà người Hán đa số phải nhường quyền tự chủ cho hào trưởng địa phương. Đó là lý do tại sao chúng ta thấy ngàn năm "Bắc thuộc" mà xảy ra hàng trăm cuộc khởi nghĩa lớn của hào trưởng, mà tại sao người Hán không triệt tiêu được thế lực hào trưởng. Đơn giản, họ không thể dẹp được hệ thống hào trưởng ở cả vùng Lĩnh Nam lẫn toàn bộ miền nam TQ. Mỗi lần họ đuổi được dân chống đổi khỏi giết chóc người Hán, thì bọn phản động chạy trốn xây dựng lực lượng để phá rối nên quan lại Hán phải phong chức và tăng thưởng để gìn giữ hoà bình.
@MegaBreheny
@MegaBreheny 4 года назад
Thanks so much for this overview of ancient Chinese history, it really helps broaden my perspective.
@TemporaryINTER135
@TemporaryINTER135 4 года назад
History: ok so the southern Nanman tribes had a impact during the later half of the three kingdoms period Total War: ... make it DLC, full price
@DaiMie
@DaiMie 4 года назад
Time to make Dai Nam great again.
@yeeyee5057
@yeeyee5057 4 года назад
Their impact was losing to wu and then losing to shu?
@yeeyee5057
@yeeyee5057 3 года назад
@Lianhua Xin OK but nothing that directly affects the three kingdoms period though
@jurtra9090
@jurtra9090 4 года назад
Any Dynasty Warriors fanboy here?
@thusspoke08
@thusspoke08 4 года назад
Feel the power of my magic!
@levynous4500
@levynous4500 4 года назад
yep!
@anicitra5927
@anicitra5927 4 года назад
Cao cao #1
@robwalsh9843
@robwalsh9843 4 года назад
I never stopped loving the wussy cries of "OH!" when you swat down enemy soldiers.
@rodrigochiberioseixas193
@rodrigochiberioseixas193 4 года назад
OH BOY!
@MrHeadSet1
@MrHeadSet1 Год назад
As a Southern Chinese, I have always wondered why our cuisine are way more similar to Vietnamese cuisine in comparison to Northern Chinese cuisine. In addition, some Cantonese words sound more similar to Vietnamese than Mandarin. After watching this video, a thought came to my mind, that I realized that historically all Chinese dynasties were founded in the north along with captials that are always located in the North and that we of the south are always ruled by Northerners. We are a conquered people that are absorbed and assilmilated into the Chinese state. 😂
@hagongda123
@hagongda123 Год назад
又来冒充了?哈哈
@cgm007
@cgm007 Год назад
你只能代表你自己,湘菜川菜浙菜粤菜真的一样吗??😅
@hagongda123
@hagongda123 Год назад
@@cgm007 RU-vid上好多越南人冒充
@Unfrozen_Caveman_Lawyer1
@Unfrozen_Caveman_Lawyer1 Год назад
I think history would have taken a better turn if the south ruled instead 😉
@Imyourfather3
@Imyourfather3 11 месяцев назад
你被征服牛魔了 除非你是少数民族,不然自己滚回去查一查家谱, 汉朝时期的南方人口还没一两百万,今天大部分南方人都是北方人移民,特别是东南
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 4 года назад
Many decades later: The Lost Tribe of Xinjiang
@hmmmhmmm6917
@hmmmhmmm6917 4 года назад
If you're talking about Uyghurs they're population has grown a lot since 1949
@noriakikakyoin6557
@noriakikakyoin6557 4 года назад
lmao. if they could be assimilated they would be gone since han dynasty
@iamaheretic7829
@iamaheretic7829 4 года назад
@@hmmmhmmm6917 Most of it are from the Han population of xinjiang
@cbrtdgh4210
@cbrtdgh4210 4 года назад
The Han never settled in Xinjiang in large numbers until recent decades. The Soviets also encouraged Turkification of the region. Though Islam has long been part of China for 1000 years. Chiang's KMT had many muslim allies. They say: 愛國愛教” or “loving our country is as one with loving our faith.
@MrGabiiiii94
@MrGabiiiii94 4 года назад
@@hmmmhmmm6917 He means culture, also the more Han Chinese move there the more the population will grow kek
@GMAN_INK
@GMAN_INK 4 года назад
This was super interesting! As a descendent of the FuJian and GuangDong regions this was really eye-opening and very cool to watch as an Asian American.
@millburray6676
@millburray6676 3 года назад
2:52 thank you for including this part. The modern China espouses the line that theyve been one great unified country for all of antiquity when in reality they were very much more diverse than
@maxdc988
@maxdc988 3 года назад
Not unlike the British, French, German, Russian etc. Many people who have really looked into the history of China especially online would have come to the conclusion that there were more people perished in China in the past than anywhere else on earth. So your assertion that China had claimed that they were a unified country historically was a BS. You are probably the only person who was in the dark about the hundreds of ambitious Chinese dynasties and rulers. Every (most) Chinese in the world today would know from their elders that China was a very divided country with many wars. Even many online games were based on Chinese ancient wars. China was at her weakest when they were so divided, hence the valuing of unity and stability in the Chinese population today.
@nikitaostrovsky8416
@nikitaostrovsky8416 4 года назад
Every -uo in the Chinese words is mistaken as -ou
@bencera6067
@bencera6067 3 года назад
Fascinating! I came for the battles, stayed for the great history and cultural lessons. Well done.
@sunduncan1151
@sunduncan1151 3 года назад
Baiyue should be the ancestor of Southeast Asians, consists of Kra-Dai, Hmong-Mien, Lolo-Burmese, Austronesian and Austroasiatic. However, Kra-Dai (Tai-Kadai) and Austronesian peoples seem to be the dominant groups. According to the linguistic evidences, the ancient Yue language seems to be Proto-Kra-Dai (ancestral language of Thai, Lao, Shan, Dai, Ahom, Zhuang, Hlai, etc.) or Pre-Kra-Dai. The ancient “Song of Boatman” (Yue Ren Ge), for example, was written with Chinese character but can’t be understood by the Han Chinese because it’s non-Sinitic language. Interestingly, every words in the song can be transliterated to modern Thai words with the correct meaning. Kra-Dai itself is possibly related to Austronesian with a proposed family called Austro-Tai. Both Tai and Austronesian share a lot of common customs and traditions like tattooing, teeth blackening, water culture (cultivate rice in the wet paddy fields, settling on the riverside or in the coastal area and expertise in sailing along the river or the ocean). Tai and Austronesian also share a lot of cognates in basic vocabulary but Tai languages became monosyllable and tonal due to mainland SEA linguistic influences, e.g. eye (ta vs. mata), to die (tay vs. matay), bird (nok vs. manok), me (ku vs. aku), thou (mw vs. kamu), moon (*blwan vs. bulan/buwan), flower (*blok vs. bulaklak), water (nam vs. danum), fire (fay vs. apuy), teeth (fan vs. ngipin), etc. Some scholars believe Kra-Dai peoples were parts or sisters of Austronesian migrating back to the mainland and highly influenced by Han Chinese and later Austroasiatic (Mon-Khmer).
@tingtingnoy3133
@tingtingnoy3133 3 года назад
Tai or kra-Dai are subgroups of the ancient Lao people Thai language is just Lao language mixed with Mon/Khmer Thai people are just Lao people who migrated south
@tingtingnoy3133
@tingtingnoy3133 3 года назад
Tai is just a Lao and Zhuang word that is still commonly used today to mean native or local of, By the late 19th early 20th century the word Tai started be used to mean an ethnicity, before the ethnicity that was used to refer to these groups was the Lao. Every manuscript or documents in Siam predating the late 19th century called these groups Lao, in the Ayutthaya chronicles, it was common to call them Lao people not Tai or kra-Dai.
@AsianTurtleee
@AsianTurtleee 2 года назад
The Lao government would not fund a further research like the Thai people. So, the Thai have first claim on everything.
@danielzhang1916
@danielzhang1916 5 месяцев назад
actually, the song was translated into Chinese, the 6th-century BC prince Zixi (子晳), the Lord of È (鄂), on his state barge, was intrigued and had it translated, there may be a connection to the Zhuang languages spoken in Guangxi
@ryanchiang5370
@ryanchiang5370 4 года назад
15:53 these tigers looks so fluffy and cute LOL
@jimtim8805
@jimtim8805 4 года назад
Hey..I was also thinking the same thing while watching this. Haha.
@sitoudien9816
@sitoudien9816 3 года назад
The ancestor of Pokemon
@sebastianvaldez4662
@sebastianvaldez4662 4 года назад
the connection between them and the ancient austronesians blew my mind
@xXxSkyViperxXx
@xXxSkyViperxXx 4 года назад
the ancient rice terraces in the philippines is basically the same as the smaller rice terraces in fujian province of china and the tattoos of baiyue statues there look the same as the tattoos of indigenous groups too in the philippines and all other austronesian groups
@my_other_side473
@my_other_side473 2 года назад
Wet Farming, Tattooing, Sea Fearing, Blacking of teeth are Austronesian Culture. The Baiyue were Proto-Austronesian Tribes of Vietnam.
@SuryanChandra
@SuryanChandra Год назад
@@my_other_side473 I read some research paper about the pre-historic Vietnam and according to archeology results in Red River Delta area of Northern VIetnam, the inhabitants of the area were Mon-Khmer people, probably Vietic branch. The Kra-Dai substrates were found much later during the time of Dongson culture. Many rthnic groups in Vietnam share the tale of their origins being 2 different groups of people, with one migrated from the sea to intermix with the native. Kra-Dai might have been a branch of Austronesian languages closely related to Malayo-Polynesian branch according to Sagart. The Kra-Dai languages are relatively new compared to Proto-Austronesian (around 3000-3500 years ago, coinciding with the establishment of Chu state in south China, and with intense contact, Austronesian languages can easily acquire tones, just look at Chamic language in Hainan, the only tonal Austronesian language.
@kagar3465
@kagar3465 3 года назад
I from Cebu Island in the central Philippines and my ancestors the Sugbuanon people were called "Pintados" by the by the Castilian Spanish and called Cebu island "Las Islas de los Pintados" (island of the painted ones) because they were covered in tattoos from the face to the feet and they also blackened their teeth as a beauty standard and to preserve the teeth by applying a tar-based coating that the early Visayans called "Tapul". They were also skilled sailors who regularly raided the Fukien coast southeast of China... I believe, one of the tribes of the hundred yue is where my ancestors come from.
@tingtingnoy3133
@tingtingnoy3133 3 года назад
In Siamese manuscripts, the Siamese called the Lao people who lived in northern Siam as the “Lao Thong Dam” or Black belly Lao people Bc they tattooed there bellies and thighs, the Siamese called the people who lived in Laos the “Lao Thong Khao” or white belly Lao Bc they tattooed the chest and shoulders not the belly.
@kagar3465
@kagar3465 3 года назад
@ddx That is very interesting. What are these boats called? We call the small outrigger canoes "bangka" mainly used for fishing while the bigger outrigger ships are called "karakoa" mostly used for searaids and trading. I imagine there would be some language correlation between Austronesians and Austroasiatics but I don't have any information about this.
@darkhai2952
@darkhai2952 2 месяца назад
As someone who is half from Yunnan and a member of an ethnic minority, I believe this video contains serious errors. The Baiyue people were not a collective term for all the southern minorities; they were more concentrated in the southern part of another south place of China. In fact, during the reign of Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty, there was already a large country in the Nanzhong region-the Dian Kingdom. Its people wore long hair, did not tattoo, and were capable of making fine bronze weapons and armor. They wore large earrings and exquisite jewelry, and a large number of unearthed bronze artifacts can prove this. Secondly, the main enemy of the Dian Kingdom, which is another part of the Nanzhong region's people-the Kunming people, were a nomadic people with short hair. All of these people wore clothes, not primitive people. In addition, there was a small country called the Ailao Kingdom, where another group of people who lived by farming lived. My ethnic group, the Hani people, evolved from the Ailao people. Moreover, the ethnic minorities and the Shu Han were not simply controlled, it can be said that Shu was the only one of the three countries that treated ethnic minorities as human beings. Zhuge Liang would send people to help them farm and weave, and Guan Yu's daughter stayed here forever. In modern times, when China was invaded by Britain, the Wa people guarding the Yunnan border even wrote to Beijing saying "We have been blessed by our ancestors A Gong, so we have always been guarding here", the ancestors mentioned here are Zhuge Liang. Zhu Rong and the King of Mulu are fictional characters in the novel "Romance of the Three Kingdoms".
@Someone111ify
@Someone111ify 2 месяца назад
Interesting
@muhammadmahirrahman4341
@muhammadmahirrahman4341 4 года назад
Yong kai, Gao Ding and Zhu Bao was participating in Campaign Against Zhuge Liang with the aid of Menghuo a Nanman Local tribe.
@vaevictis5878
@vaevictis5878 4 года назад
Can you do a video on Pompey and his conquest of the east?
@zylbygdfn6542
@zylbygdfn6542 3 года назад
Hahaha hahaha
@tamamatu6395
@tamamatu6395 4 года назад
OMG! King and Generals talking about my ancestors the Austronesian!
@Suite_annamite
@Suite_annamite 4 года назад
If any *Middle Easterners* are watching here, a *good analogy* would be to say that *Vietnamese are to southern Chinese what North Africans are to Egyptians.* They both had the *same ancestors, but one group completely assimilated, while the other still kept their identity.*
@lam1991hahaha
@lam1991hahaha 3 года назад
Another analogy is the Chinese are like the Romans, baiyue are the Celts. Vietnam is Ireland. And southern China is Gaul
@kazanshin4108
@kazanshin4108 4 года назад
Last time I was this early China wasn't united yet. *Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?*
@kazanshin4108
@kazanshin4108 4 года назад
@GoodGirlKate Who bloody knows at this point? Maybe it'll last 1000 more years. Maybe it'll collapse tomorrow.
@kazanshin4108
@kazanshin4108 4 года назад
@GoodGirlKate I'm Japanese and I'm scared because if that happens that means they'll first assimilate the East, and right off the bat means bye bye Japan.
@夏士莲欧莱雅
@夏士莲欧莱雅 4 года назад
You'd better worry about whether Japan will invade other countries. In the history of East Asia, Japan has invaded North Korea three times, and China assisted North Korea to resist Japan twice.
@夏士莲欧莱雅
@夏士莲欧莱雅 4 года назад
In history, China has never invaded Japan, even when China was very strong, except during the period of Mongolian rule.
@ryanrzjr
@ryanrzjr 4 года назад
夏士莲欧莱雅 Yes, but we have clear historical understanding for why and how. Japan has had a cultural upheaval and is largely demilitarized anyways. They only could invade Korea because they were uniquely westernized. Now China is the strongest power in the region, and is fairly assertive. That causes any country to fear them, justified or not.
@ianchen9217
@ianchen9217 4 года назад
thank you for covering this. Most westerners believe all Chinese speak Mandarin or "Chinese" but in reality most southerners have a different mother tongue that is very different from Mandarin. Also, even to this day, southerners look a tad different from the Northerners. The language I speak now Cantonese is somewhat related to Vietnamese. I would still argue that Vietnamese is part of Sino-Tibetan.
@jvhousing5576
@jvhousing5576 4 года назад
Hey fellow Cantonese, ur distant Vietnamese relative here =))
@khangaroo8166
@khangaroo8166 Год назад
vietnamese was influenced a lot by the chinese language, but its not sino-tibetan since its root is more similar to mon-khmer, but picked up many chinese words along the way
@Charles-bz8px
@Charles-bz8px 10 месяцев назад
Vietnamese use a lot of loan words from Cantonese.
@hentype
@hentype 7 месяцев назад
Cantonese is a Han language, but it has a huge Viet/Yue vocabulary due to history.
@ManuManu-ih7yx
@ManuManu-ih7yx Год назад
stories written by the Chinese, you have to take them with a pinch of salt. they tend to devalue others to feel superior. silk is of origin from the Yue people, the same as cotton, because the climatic conditions allow it. The North, of the Han Chinese, is too cold for the development of silkworms and the cultivation of cotton. Before the Chinese invasion, it was the Yue culture that radiated in this part of the globe. The Chinese calendar is of Vietnamese origin, the Lunar New Year is also Vietnamese, and many other things that the Chinese claim are theirs. The Yue (Viet) already had writing at this time.
@danielzhang1916
@danielzhang1916 5 месяцев назад
no, silk originated in Neolithic China within the Yangshao culture, production remained in China until the Silk Road opened, the Chinese calendar was developed as early as 771 to 476 BCE, during the Spring and Autumn period of the Eastern Zhou dynasty, solar calendars were used before then, China had it long before anyone else
@pasterofmuppets666
@pasterofmuppets666 3 месяца назад
Bwahahahaha
@chaoliu-kb9wk
@chaoliu-kb9wk 2 месяца назад
Does Vietnam have four seasons? Is the lunar calendar accurate in Vietnam? The lunar calendar is very accurate in Henan and Shandong provinces in China. I am a Han Chinese from northern China, and we also have mulberry leaves and silkworms here. I raised silkworms when I was a child. In tropical regions like Vietnam, where most people wrap themselves in a piece of cloth due to the unbearable heat, would they invent the fully wrapped silk Hanfu? Also, cotton was introduced to China from the Western Regions, which is considered the north, and it adapts well to the northern climate. Most importantly, does Vietnam experience the "Heavy Snow" and "Minor Snow" as described in the lunar calendar?
@petertran5419
@petertran5419 Месяц назад
the zodiac, the lunar calendar, wet rice argriculture, were developed by the BaiYue. Everyone ever grow wet rice knows that you need to time with the tides. Every full moon is high tide. The lunar calendar accurately identify when the full moon is. and the zodia and fortune telling are based on the lunar calendar (as oppose to the western solar calendar).
@Rekekeli_jiang
@Rekekeli_jiang 20 дней назад
dont eat so many banana🍌
@anyuhannah3306
@anyuhannah3306 11 месяцев назад
The Nagas(North East India, Burma ) have Tang Village, Shangnyu Village, Chen village etc practiced tattooing, blackening of teeth, headhunting etc too... But they have no proper written records of migration so they could likely be linked to Man or Borneo people
@deadlypanter2048
@deadlypanter2048 4 года назад
Found this video from steam where 3 kingdoms made an post about this video. It is so cool that they did a shout out for a creator
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 4 года назад
Really good marketing team :-)
@ajithsidhu7183
@ajithsidhu7183 4 года назад
@@KingsandGenerals can u don one on xiromh ,dong yi ,beidi and others
@lunharphalanx0259
@lunharphalanx0259 3 года назад
@@KingsandGenerals Why Didn't You Mention Philippines Do You Hate Us
@richardmurphy9006
@richardmurphy9006 4 года назад
Fascinating never heard of this but then China has stunning civilizations
@FreeCatVideos
@FreeCatVideos 3 года назад
yes and they destroyed them because they are seen by the han chinese as savages and barbarians.
@luciaom9929
@luciaom9929 3 года назад
This was wonderful to watch, very informative, and what a beautiful graphics!
@judsonwall8615
@judsonwall8615 2 года назад
This is really one of the most beautiful videos you guys have done. Beautiful in its art, story, and message. Well done.
@vinsim1913
@vinsim1913 2 года назад
I am Southern Chinese in Asia. My ancestors depended on Sea for food, generally southerners were great sailors, and my ancestors was one were assimilated with mainstream Chinese many centuries ago...
@ge7sur3nka34
@ge7sur3nka34 2 года назад
We probably have same ancestor at some point, Austronesian the great sea fearer. Some tribes left to the southern island but some stay and were assimilated by Han culture
@DerivativeDrivel
@DerivativeDrivel 3 года назад
Awesome video as always!!! Nitpicking here (aka unnecessary extra context/details): While geographically, the Wu/Jiangnan region is frequently depicted as part of Yue/Baiyue on maps, in reality the region was only briefly conquered and absorbed into the Yue cultural tradition (though influenced nonetheless). Historically, culturally, linguistically, and genetically, the Wu region was almost always within the sinosphere of Great Plains China, albeit on the periphery. The Yangtze area was already colonized since the Shang era by a branch of the Zhou royal family; Wu state was founded by Taibo, uncle of Wen of Zhou, who later conquered the Shang and started Zhou dynasty. The connection between Wu and Baiyue is tenuous at best, and Nanman completely separate. Archaeological evidence supports the early presence of Yue-like peoples in the Zhejiang area, but they were likely driven out or partially assimilated even before the Spring and Autumn period. However, Wu was indeed conquered by Yue after King Fuchai of Wu's betrayal by King Goujian of Yue, backed by the more powerful Chu state. Ironically, Yue was in turn also conquered by Chu shortly after, and their people fled back south to Fujian/Guangdong. While the Yue presence and influence in the Zhejiang/Shanghai region was short lived, somehow Wu and Yue are still often conflated to this day. In practice, the various similarities in culture, language, cuisine, etc. between the various tribes, minorities and modern nationalities of South China/Asia (Cantonese/Yue, Min, Zhuang, Viet, etc.) do not really include Jiangnan culture. In fact, more likely (and lesser known) connections can be made with other sinoxenic groups - ancient Japanese practices bore many similarities to the Wu; the earliest recorded name for Japan is Wa/Wo, and those tribes themselves claimed to descend from Taibo; the oldest system for Japanese pronunciation is Go-on (Wu sound), preceding Kan-on (Han sound), and To-on (Tang sound); and even today Japanese and Wu dialects have noticeable overlap in some vocabulary, cognates, tones, pitches, accents, etc. (as well as with Korean and Middle Chinese). Genetically, Wu/Jiangnan people are coherent with the rest of Han population, and fall between the northernmost and southernmost populations - so they can hardly be considered part of the Yue/South cluster. Keep in mind, most Chinese belong to Han haplogroup(s) i.e. direct male line, due to the long process of southward colonization described in the video. Baiyue ancestry is therefore primarily found through mtDNA (matrilineal descent) or autosomes, and this research does indeed indicate high levels of this ancestry in e.g. modern Cantonese populations, i.e. descneded from male Han settlers intermarrying with the conquered, local Yue women. Speaking broadly, the Jiangnan/Shanghai region seems to have always found itself in a liminal state of affairs; since antiquity existing on the line between "North" and "South" China, and in modernity becoming the most prominent interface between Chinese and Western culture. It's really refreshing to see such a well-researched video on little-known aspects of Chinese history. Would love to see more episodes on the different sub-groups and sub-cultures in China - there is so much more depth behind the apparent monolith that the rest of the world sees!
@DerivativeDrivel
@DerivativeDrivel 3 года назад
Another point is the legendary metallurgy also mentioned in the video, was in fact a feature of multiple kingdoms during the Spring and Autumn period (Chu, Wu, and Yue) - and was likely a direct result of geography i.e. access to higher quality copper and tin deposits, bodies of water, etc. as well as culture ("water spirits" inhabiting the blade can be interpreted as a superior method of quenching bronze). Famous swordsmiths of the time were known to travel in search of optimal locations close to ore and water, and settle there to practice their art - often moving between kingdoms in the process, and taking their skills with them to serve under the protection of the local ruler.
@xiaoxiaowu6449
@xiaoxiaowu6449 4 года назад
The final consonant of these words, such as 'c' in Lac, denote "checked tones". They are voiceless stop that has no audible release: [p̚ ], [t̚ ], or [k̚ ]. So they should not be pronounced out in the video.
@d.b.2215
@d.b.2215 4 года назад
They are pronounced in Vietnamese, just without the hard release like European languages. If you make them disappear completely like in Mandarin we would be able to tell that they're missing
@Corgi_Manu
@Corgi_Manu Год назад
The Nanman aren’t ''lost''. They ended up in some parts of modern-day northeast India.
@userfriendly37
@userfriendly37 3 года назад
We are call “Hmong” but the Han Chinese label us as “Miao”. I’m glad your channel brought some light to this because I’m from an indigenous tribe, Hmong people are descendants of Chi You! So this makes a lot of sense.
@desrend
@desrend 3 года назад
Basically, what it proves is that the South China Sea does not belong to the Han Chinese but to the rest of S E Asia as they are the descendants of the Yue people
@isyraf9989
@isyraf9989 3 года назад
Indeed keep them out.
@kawings
@kawings 3 года назад
No wonder when i hear vietnamese speech and cantonese it sounds simillar in pronunciation. Thanks for food of thought
@jesjes5255
@jesjes5255 8 месяцев назад
nothing like each other. However there are strong Chinese cultural influences... imperial attire, use of chopsticks and the Vietnamese used Chinese writing before the alphabet. Halong in the north of Vietnam means descending dragon in Chinese. Thai does sound a lot like Cantonese.
@hentype
@hentype 7 месяцев назад
@@jesjes5255 you just contradicted yourself. Nothing like each other yet lots of similarities lol.
@MH-ms1dg
@MH-ms1dg 3 года назад
Extraordinary video and information! I just want to add that one more reason southern China is as Chinese as it is now is also because of the Tang Dynasty Anshi rebellion. I read that this civil conflict pushed many northern commoner and aristocratic Chinese alike to seek refuge in the south, thus giving rise to many cultural staples, such as the Cantonese language and nanyue music. Most Chinese people refer to themselves as Han, whereas some southern populations refer themselves as Tang people, precisely because Chinese acculturation of the south (supposedly) only started happening in earnest during the Tang Dynasty. After all, the Chinese name for a "Chinatown" is Tang ren jie (streets of the Tang people).
@FreeCatVideos
@FreeCatVideos 3 года назад
Wow that is so surprising I lived in the Visayas in the Philippines and our ancestors have full body tattoos too, We have shamans and women warriors and are often seen equal to men. They Love to make boats and travel within islands to explore.
@izobel2899
@izobel2899 3 года назад
Visayan people and Yue People are both O1a, not like Vietnamese,they are o1b
@FreeCatVideos
@FreeCatVideos 3 года назад
@@izobel2899 aw thanks for sharing.,
@gold-toponym
@gold-toponym 2 года назад
@@izobel2899 you're talking about a specific people with no regard that anyone can live anywhere at any point. Baiyue is called 100 Yue for a reason. Doesn't matter the genetics. And in china's case, we were all similar and barbarian. Khmer, Asiatics, Austronesians, Dai, Hmong all existed there. And particularly well of rice farmers.
@trisblackshaw1640
@trisblackshaw1640 4 года назад
Your artist's depiction of that dragon-summoning ceremony will prove the stuff of my nightmares in dreams yet to come. Great video, guys, as usual.
@otgunz
@otgunz 4 года назад
it is nice to scare you with paper and ink! Thanks for watching! :)
@trisblackshaw1640
@trisblackshaw1640 4 года назад
@@otgunz I assume you are the artist? Your work is excellent. Congratulations!
@levietkhuong6264
@levietkhuong6264 4 года назад
So great when have some guy know original of vietnamese more detail than almost local. You get my respect.
@phongduong7486
@phongduong7486 4 года назад
Ò đúng thiệt :)))))))
@yeudoi66
@yeudoi66 3 года назад
Le Viet Cuong Vietnamese was too busy fighting for our history lol
@maxdc988
@maxdc988 3 года назад
Nowadays, we have that tool called internet. lol
@dennyyohanes8677
@dennyyohanes8677 3 года назад
There's also indigenous people in the jungle of Borneo that had similar identity with the Bai Yue. They've tattooed their body and a great warrior. They called Dayak Tribe.
@strawberryshortcake_1994
@strawberryshortcake_1994 3 года назад
In Philippines too Sir we have this kind of Tribal tattoos and hunting.
@TGDCChannel
@TGDCChannel 2 года назад
Dayak are not a tribe
@zairatulishak8195
@zairatulishak8195 2 года назад
Dayak is an ethnic
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Год назад
Dayaks are a group of tribes.
@SV-kr9fu
@SV-kr9fu 2 года назад
As a Thai-Chinese guy, I was told by my great-grandmother that my ancestors were, originally, from Fujian. However, I never knew much about the Nanman people, besides playing Romance of the 3 Kingdoms. I guess it is time for me to do some research.
@dannydoyle8731
@dannydoyle8731 4 года назад
there is something to scratch your heads that all (really all?) pacific islanders: Maoi, Polynesians, indigenous people in modern Indonesia, Philippines, Taiwan, even the Ainu in Japan, and the Viets, all share the culture of body tattooing in ceremonial display of beauty and strength vs branding criminals for punishment and shame.
@xXxSkyViperxXx
@xXxSkyViperxXx 4 года назад
not just tattooing, there is also teeth blackening, houses made with stilts, seafaring culture, and rice terrace farming on mountains and hills
@louyht7
@louyht7 4 года назад
We Vietnamese love to fight on elephant that differentiate us from the Han Chinese. We even have elephant corps.
@datukrajo1807
@datukrajo1807 4 года назад
@@louyht7 Do you know theory that stated Yue were Vietnamese is absurd and doesn't make any sense. First Yue wore Body Tattoo in their body. As Indonesian, i have never seen any indigenous Viatnamese tribes other than Jarai, Cham etc (They were Indonesian brother) thathave Tattoo cultures. Tattoo cultures is occured in several Malay Archipelago nation such as Indonesia (Dayak, Mentawai, Nias, Minahasa, Toraja), Malaysia (Dayak, Iban), Philippines (Igorot etc). They also lived on high stilt house that showed resemblance with Native population of Indonesia, Malaysia and Philippines. Just search on the internet about Rumah Gadang, Rumah Melayu, Rumah Panggung, Rumah Panjang, Rumah Dayak, Rumah Aceh, Rumah Mentawai, Rumah Nias and you will aee how our traditional house looks like Also Seafaring, its part of Malay World cultures. Just search Sea Gypsies such as Orang Laut, Moken, Urak Lawoi, Bajao. They all belonged to Indonesia, Malaysia amd Filipino's cultures. Even Malagasy people of Madagascar speaks the language that belonged to South Borneo language sub group. Our voyage or seafaring cultures was written clearly on the Borobudur temple of Central Java. If you're Vietnamese, Please Read the history of Champa Kingdom. In 8th Century, people called "Chvea" Or Javanese (Ethnic group in present day Indonesia) raided Champa kingdom several times on seaborn attack and burned the Po Nagar Temple And lastly Genetic print. Most of Vietnamese belong to Paternal Haplogroup O M122 and O M95 which did not resemble the Paternal Haplogroup of Yue. According to scientist based on the mummies in Liangzhi Cultures (Which was Yue) in Zhejiang Province, China, Most of Yue belong to Paternal Haplogroup O1a M119 which mostly nowadays occured among Taiwanese Aborigines, Indonesian, Filipino as well as Some Tai people of South China such as Krai people. Its very clear from this on that Vietnamese were not Yue's descendant.
@louyht7
@louyht7 4 года назад
@@datukrajo1807 Hahaha where did i said in my comment Vietnamese tattoo their body even if we tattoo our body it happened 2-3 thousand of years ago. Read my comment again man. Second Yue is an umbrella term of all tribes live in the south of Yangtze river. You have Lou Yue ( Lac Viet) Ou Yue ( Au Viet) etc. Part of Indonesian ancestor probably belong to different tribes of Yue and mixed with Negrito when migrating to archipelago probably 3-5 thousand years ago. Btw what modern day Indonesian have to do with Yue tribes there is not so much connection unless you're a Chinese who live in Indonesia and want to prevent Vietnam from claiming southern China. If you check Vietnamese have more Austronesian genes than anybody in Southeast Asia
@LinhBui-yb3ow
@LinhBui-yb3ow 4 года назад
@@datukrajo1807 Vietnamese still tattoed there body until 1300s. What are you trying to do bro ? Don't forget baiyue is 100 tribe of yue and those tribe had difference look, culture and language.
@Hoaquason93
@Hoaquason93 4 года назад
The Vietnamese are the last heir to the great southern cypress race and are completely non-Chinese. Vietnamese people are always proud of being the most outstanding race in cypress, we have fought for thousands of years and successfully fought against the assimilation of the Han people, preserving the cultural identity of the ancestors.
@kenh758
@kenh758 4 года назад
Only if you could read the words of your ancestor, rather than the Latinized contraption leftover from your French master, then you would know that true history is complete opposite of what you said. Viet Nam is the inheritor of Han migrations to the south.
@Hoaquason93
@Hoaquason93 4 года назад
The Vietnamese were the last of the ancient Vietnamese peoples in the south of the Yangtze River and down to the north of Vietnam today. still exists today without being assimilated by the Han people. Thousands of invasions by the Han people throughout 4000 years of history and preserving the land of Vietnamese ancestors despite 1000 years of domination by the Han people
@kenh758
@kenh758 4 года назад
Đức hòa Ngô_93 Viet Nam claimed lineage to Nam Viet, which itself a proclaimed successor state to Viet Kingdom (one of the prominent Huaxia kingdoms before China unification). Unfortunately, whether in Viet Kingdom, Nam Viet or Viet Nam, not one was a BaiViet representing state, but of people from the north migrating to the traditional homes of Man and BaiViets.
@linpan2561
@linpan2561 4 года назад
@Kush Kunte ^
@jim.pearsall
@jim.pearsall Год назад
Epic. Thank you! From Thailand with mixed heritage 🇹🇭🇻🇳🇹🇼🇨🇳🇮🇳🇺🇸🇬🇧🇳🇴
@juliannasreddin5226
@juliannasreddin5226 3 года назад
Kings and generals is giving a new bunch of information every week. I'm now the best at history in my class and I sometimes even correct the teacher. China: everyone else is a barbarian Rome: laughs in latin
@TriNguyen-ug1qv
@TriNguyen-ug1qv 3 года назад
Vietnamese in modern day was one of Bai Yue tribes which survived assimilation after almost 1,000 years of China occupation.
@tingtingnoy3133
@tingtingnoy3133 3 года назад
Viet is still more Sino assimilated then the Lao who migrated south and established Laos and Thailand
@angkhoanguyen6114
@angkhoanguyen6114 3 года назад
@@tingtingnoy3133 "Sino assimilated" False. Vietnamese developed culture of their own after defeating the Chinese.
@angkhoanguyen6114
@angkhoanguyen6114 3 года назад
@@tingtingnoy3133 You mean Sinosphere right? China, Korea, Japan and Vietnam are in the main circle.
@tingtingnoy3133
@tingtingnoy3133 3 года назад
@@angkhoanguyen6114 You speak Mon/Khmer, use a Western alphabet and have a Chinese based culture
@rc1856
@rc1856 3 года назад
@@tingtingnoy3133 Exactly lol
@nhuhdoify
@nhuhdoify Год назад
Thank you for re-telling the history. I'm Vietnamese, though now I am leaving overseas. As I get older, I realise it would be fascinating to learn more of our origin. Hence I have tried to learn more our history in recent years. Our legends and folk lores said that our ancestors were a tribe of the "Bách Việt", modern pronunciation of "Baiyue" which means a hundred of Viet tribes. Back in ancient time peoples Northern Yangtze River called tribes down South "Nanman" which translates as "southern barbarians". And southern tribes called Northerners as "northern invaders". And we still call them northern invaders till this day 😅 To the untrained eyes of those who are outsiders especially people from the Western world, they lump peoples from North East Asia, East Asia and South East Asia into one indifferent category. But infact, genetically speaking we are different, nowadays it shows in the DNA in recent studies. Our cultures were vastly different due to direct link with agriculture of growing wet rice, a unique characteristic of Southerners. And to the naked eyes, we can tell some of unique facial traits and features of those who had ancestors from the Northern or Southern Yangtze river, despite the Northerners did successfully conquer the south. They certainly assimilated and interbred with the Southerners. Therefore modern South China has a various admixture of Northerners and Southerners. It shows clearly in the gene pool.
@dingleberry4234
@dingleberry4234 11 месяцев назад
Interesting, I am pretty young and my family is from Hong Kong, I always thought Cantonese was similar to Vietnamese. I don’t know too much about this history though.
@dingleberry4234
@dingleberry4234 11 месяцев назад
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@Charles-bz8px
@Charles-bz8px 10 месяцев назад
I am also Vietnamese live in the US, my mother and my aunts still live in Vietnam, they have black teeth like these ancient Yue people.
@yumyumlolly
@yumyumlolly 9 месяцев назад
​@mechupaunhuevon7662Vietnamese are originated from Yue. They just move south. It is in the Vietnamese history.
@merrick6484
@merrick6484 9 месяцев назад
One can say, there are 1/3 of modern day Chinese especially from the Southern Part of China, from Shanghai / Taiwan / Hong Kong are related to Modern day Vietnam.
@Gloriosus
@Gloriosus 4 года назад
Thank you, that was fascinating. My maternal grandmother was a Khasi woman from North East India. I mentioned this to a Chinese teacher, and she said they are related to the Miao. However, I have not been able to find any documentary evidence about that. You mentioned the Miao, and linguistic pockets scattered around. The Khasi greeting is "Khublei" - perhaps it is a link to China and Kublai Khan, who knows.
@youngboi3727
@youngboi3727 3 года назад
Khasi people are Mon-Khmer people and closer to Khmer people of Cambodia. They are not related to Miao people. Where do you live now?
@Gloriosus
@Gloriosus 3 года назад
@@youngboi3727 Thank you for your reply, Young Boi. I live in Scotland.
@lakanron640
@lakanron640 Год назад
I am Filipino, and they were my peoples' ancestors.We were told that as kids.That took we cames from southern China via Taiwan, and conquered the Pacific.And recently, DNA testings have confirmed all of it to be true.
@damienlee1165
@damienlee1165 Год назад
Always felt that Cantonese and Vietnamese had similar tones between the two languages.
@bekf606
@bekf606 Год назад
Very interesting. Description of the Bai Yue matches the Igorot people in the northern Philippines and Naga of Nagaland in India, and natives of Taiwan.
@hopperhq-d1g
@hopperhq-d1g 4 года назад
I absolutely LOVE how y'all use distinct artstyles and fonts for different places/peoples. The quality of this channel is absurd
@thanglengoc2366
@thanglengoc2366 3 года назад
Remember that Vietnamese people's ancestor is complex, they're come from many baiyue tribes, you can't compare us to cambodian, We the Vietnamese people talk a complex language that hard to find orginal, and Cambodia is cambodia, Vietnam is Vietnam we are different people different ancestor.
@ghanvedsingh8946
@ghanvedsingh8946 3 года назад
Cam/Cham/sham are form of one word stands for old days Syria but how they reached over there is still a mystery chamdo area of Tibet also related to them and it stands for god or city of Cham or sham
@ibbi30
@ibbi30 3 года назад
Well Khmer and Vietnamese are from the same language family, so you could say that Cambodians and Vietnamese are distantly related.
@theuniverse2126
@theuniverse2126 3 года назад
@@ibbi30 only in language we are in same family. In ADN, we are family with Tai people like Thailand and Laos.
@silentrevolver4600
@silentrevolver4600 3 года назад
As a hong konger I feel I look more Vietnamese than Chinese.
@thanglengoc2366
@thanglengoc2366 3 года назад
​@@silentrevolver4600 I felt sorry for Hong Kong, I hope Hongkonger would take their freedom back one day
@UnearthedScat
@UnearthedScat 4 года назад
This is exactly what I was looking for when I saw the Nanman DLC coming. I didn't know anything about them and wanted to educate. This is the best video I have found so far! Thank you Kings and Generals and Total War for sponsoring it! :)
@DIGAHub
@DIGAHub 4 года назад
Wow! This channel makes really high quality documentaries, and this video explained the history of Yue very well!
@johnchan5914
@johnchan5914 4 года назад
Another name for Cantonese is Yue yu (in mandarin) or more accurately Yuet yu (in Cantonese) and the province of Guangdong is also known as Yue, or Yuet, which is pronounced exactly the same as the first character in the name of Vietnam in Catonese, Yuet Nam. Most people in Guangdong think they are of Han descent, but modern linguists argue that many Cantonese dialects share the same roots as Southeast Asian languages such as Vietnamese, and the fact that they are classified as Chinese dialects is a result of convergent evolution of these languages ( ie the use of Han words/characters) and assimilation to the dominant Han culture over many centuries.
@TKN_NTBY
@TKN_NTBY 4 года назад
Yeah sure we Vietnamese are close relatives especially to those who are from Guangdong. So bad due to admixture and propaganda by Han Chinese (Beijing Regime), they look down on their BaiYue Culture side
@kenh758
@kenh758 4 года назад
Vũ Minh Nhật If you can still read your own history, not the latinized colonial relic, you should know that Dai Viet conquered Champa in the name of spreading Han culture and absorbing the “barbarians” to the Han civilization.
@TKN_NTBY
@TKN_NTBY 4 года назад
@@kenh758 Everyone claims Central Civilization behind Beijing Regime back (Both Vietnam, Korea and Japan called themselves "Central Government"). And the so-called "Authentic Central Government" are enslaved and ruled by barbarians (Mongol & Manchu) for hundred almost thousand yrs. Even the official language Mandarin has Manchu influence in it, very proud central government ironically!
@hagongda123
@hagongda123 3 года назад
another wishful thinking from Vietnam,LOL
@hagongda123
@hagongda123 3 года назад
@@TKN_NTBY vietnamese has nothing related with Cantonese your sibling is cambodian
@afiqahmarialeru2849
@afiqahmarialeru2849 3 года назад
They are not lost. Some of them assimilated and became chinese. The others migrated to southeast asia (Nusantara) known as the "Proto Malayan " (First Migration) and "Deutro Malayan" (Second Migration)
@gold-toponym
@gold-toponym 2 года назад
Agree! Along with all other ASEAN groups. Austroasiatics, Tai, and Austronesian. Majority of ASEAN is still asiatic with differing admixtures between Thai-Lao and Malay-Indo-Cham. Or Tai, Austronesian, and Asiatic, HmongMien and all other original southern Chinese (Yue) groups. Modern ASEAN are basically baiyue descendants.
@filiussolis5368
@filiussolis5368 Год назад
As a Vietnamese, I found this video very interesting. First time I heard a non-Vietnamese person mentioning the legend of the Dragon God and the Fairy Goddess. I'm not a nationalist but I'm very proud of what my ancestors have accomplished. Thank to their sacrifice, we are still an independent country. Thai people can be proud too. Never been colonized, mighty warriors.
@motachu4930
@motachu4930 11 месяцев назад
Salute for the Vietnamese, although some Han culture is absorbed into Vietnamese culture, Vietnamese still preserve their ancient culture like blackening teeth etc I saw some Vietnamese culture lover proudly talked about this, love it.
@habibcicero3833
@habibcicero3833 11 месяцев назад
as a cantonese, we are more closely related to eachother (viets and cantonese) then we are to the original northern Chinese
@tomorrowsun8491
@tomorrowsun8491 11 месяцев назад
「independent 」 your character was first copy from China then invented by French.
@slickinfinity.crypto8028
@slickinfinity.crypto8028 2 года назад
I choose to believe a dude riding an elephant was commanding a legion of war tigers because that's about as badass as it gets.
@lukaswilhelm9290
@lukaswilhelm9290 Год назад
It's well known that Austronesian people from Aboriginal Taiwan to Indonesian to Hawaiian to Malagasy are all have their ancestors in these people coming from Southern China, the Chinese push them out so they start colonizing most Islands between Indian and Pacific oceans.
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