Narrated D&D Story: When The Party Debates On Saving Or Murdering An Evil Princess 

Well, there might have been no chance to kill her if she somehow betrayed and backstabbed them. I mean, it's not a reason to murder someone, but you still would need to keep a firm eye on a said person.

Letting her know that murdering her was an option also could be a reason, why thing go the way they did.

@@NikFlatcher That's kinda what I'm saying; don't try to kill them FIRST, but he was right in saying she could've been so indoctrinated that she couldn't think to do anything BUT try to harm them, which's why they should keep an eye on her.

@@ezrafaulk3076 I'm just thinking, if the DM was less kind and more of a jerk, she could've probably just shoot that rocket launcher to make cave entrance collapse to block the way out for the party. That's what I would do (but thanks God I'm not a DM and not even D&D a player. I just enjoy those stories)

@@NikFlatcher and THAT would've been justification to kill her; but you wouldn't have even HAD any justification if you justification if you killed her without even giving her a CHANCE first. That's what I'm trying to say, give them a chance FIRST; and if they DO turn on you, THAT'S when you kill them.

This screams Oath of Redemption

I read it the way Jack Black screams “DECAPITATIOOOON!” in Brütal Legend.

@@JaelinBezel your comment is unintentionally/coincidentally made even better since my husband just recently redownloaded BL from his Xbox library (once more at the drowning doom introduction xD fitting given the next out video after this)

@Alexander Shleymovich HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That fits.

Lmao literally

pretty much, lol

Princess LEVELS UP! 😂🤣

At least he was being realistic.

There's a line between processing something logically and being insensitive, which I feel the warlock did alright. Obviously they could have tried to converse more quietly from a greater distance, but it didn't sound like their intent was to discuss possible murder to their potential victim's face. It's nice and all to see a story where it turned out fine, but I've seen enough campaign stories to be aware that it's one of several possible outcomes. Winning a gamble always feels good. And unless you know your DM/GM well enough to predict how they'll use a plot hook, it *is* a gamble. It is cold to view it that way, even with fictional characters, but ignoring logic is just as much an error as focusing only on logic

@@KagemaruHitokiri he was a lizardfolk after all, so he was acting in character.

🤣🤣🤣🤣”muderhobos”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sorry, that word is just so hilarious, probably because adventures can be considered, depending

The only good Murderhobo was Veetor.... He was right in his views, and hell if my Vigilante wasn't Chaotic Good I could see him using similar means to keep the peace...

A murderhobo could have also ransomed the princess back to the royal family.

yeowtch

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I purposely killed mine off, he became a bit redundant and dull. F

Mine is and I rolled him in '81, my second however....

Yeah it seems to me that the warlock definitely roleplayed their lizardfolk character pretty well in that regard.

The lizard folk isn't really inconsiderate enough to not listen to the party's decision. Additionally, that's just eugenics. The lizard folk warlock is literally just arguing eugenics.

Love it

I play a worlock that's also a crab... don't ask

@@RustyhairedAlp9575 They must be a *mudcrab.*

@@Kronosfobi Robber crab

Or coconut crab; same creature

I mean... people are allowed to change their mind.

Maybe I think yirbel not living would have the funniest results. How about that?

lol, I had the same thought.

The empire might not actually be evil either, as that is a matter of perspective. Only if one performs certain acts and actions in D&D is one actually evil. It is and was quite common for two sides to come into conflict in D&D with the possibility of both sides being good, even lawful good, because of some perceived differences, territorial claims, or beliefs and for each side to call the other "evil" while neither side actually is.

True, but alignment is not. It is set on specific point of view based on what is heroic and typical white hat. That is why in D&D evil characters do not go around thinking they are evil or that they are the bad guys, they believe they are right from their point of view, but the alignment system indicates otherwise.

Not in terms of manichaeism. And D&D as presented assumes that your world is set in a world with a manichean cosmology.

​@@benjaminjane93 The actual cosmology of D&D, at least from the lore perspective, is actually quite a bit different than that of manichaean cosmology, but part of it was organized based on alignment (the outer planes) while most of it was not (the prime material plane, elemental planes, astral plane, and ethereal plane which included many demiplanes like Ravenloft). The current state is just a mess and is not really based on anything.

@@craigtucker1290 True, true. But alignment is not a wishy washy concept in these worlds, but divinely ordained. They are tangible forces of the cosmos as elemental as fire or water. It was kind of that angle I wanted to emphasize.

@@benjaminjane93 Well, not divinely ordained per se, but a mechanic based on the game designers view on how every other creature was to be judged, including deities, using a specific ideal based on what was consider heroic. That is why using poison, killing prisoners, or taking slaves was considered to be evil because it wasn't viewed as being heroic by the game designers when they added good and evil to law and chaos. You are very much right in that it is not a wishy washy concept or a subjective analysis based on perspective, rather it is a very rigid measurement based on very specific ideals. Something that was stressed back in the older versions was that it was quite common for one to be evil and never realize that they were evil. The vast majority would actually believe themselves to be good, but the net sum of their actions tended to cause more harm and suffering than good, hence evil. Most also do not understand that once you have declared your alignment for your character, it is no longer under the player's direct control and subject to change based on your character's actions, not how you view your character.

that would have kind of been a dick move,though.

@@JT5555 More sense than killing her. That was the standard procedure in medieval times. Typically while waiting for ransom, the noble would be given free access to the castle in exchange for swearing not to escape.

Unless they're in a really low magic campaign, that makes absolutely no sense.

You got chimera right, now you just need to work on artificer.

I'd have her stick with the party more to learn more things. Then have her sneak off to the empire to become a major political player to take control of the empire completely instead of being just a puppet. She'd still be evil, but it'd be a lawful evil. To the party, she'd appear to be trying to make things better by giving them optional quests and information on her political rivals. If the players figured out she was also evil, she'd give them a chance to work with her willingly anyway. I doubt I'd have her actually try to kill the party unless they tried to actively stop her. She would, after all, be grateful for them helping her gain power.

Except there's no reason to really believe she'd be evil.

@@R3GARnator warlock explained how it would be a logical outcome. More reasons than you'd have with baby hitler, even.

I'd have it be an option for the future. Yeah, she'd still be evil, but it's not like it'd be chaotic evil. The party is helping her get stronger at the moment. I'd most likely just have a section when she tries to sneak back off to the empire at a point and if she makes it, instead of being a pawn like she would have been, she'd be a major player in the politics of the empire. I'd most likely even have her be sneaky and make the party think she plans on turning the empire around from the inside. Giving the party quests to help get rid of political opponents and etc. Very nice dm from this story either way. He could still have her switch it up later.