National Beehive Frames - Converting from National Deep to 14 x 12

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National Beehive Frames - Converting from National Deep to 14 x 12
In this video I show you how to convert from one size brood box to another.
I am converting from a standard national brood box to 14 x 12 brood box.
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@foxslocalhoney 4 года назад

Hi Laurence good simple method for swapping boxes over, and doing comb changes, keep them coming.

@BlackMountainHoney 4 года назад

Thanks very much! Yes - good point as well. Perfect method for a comb change also. Plenty more to come now we have that weird warm thing in the sky, that I believe is called 'the sun'.

@foxslocalhoney 4 года назад

@@BlackMountainHoney I know we normally have liquid sunshine her in the UK😁

@BlackMountainHoney 4 года назад

@@foxslocalhoney ha. So true!!

@GC987 3 года назад

I now have my plan of action coming together for spring. Migrate over to a poly 14 x 12 as demonstrated. What I enjoy is that in learning about one thing, I learn about another (in this case chalk brood) so that's really helpful. Thanks so much !!!

@BlackMountainHoney 3 года назад

Thanks Graeme. Glad the videos are useful

@KM-rb9on 4 года назад

Very good video. Well done

@BlackMountainHoney 4 года назад

Thanks Kevin. Glad you enjoyed it :)

@Fisherman2k 4 года назад

Thanks, another great video! A little tetchy at the end there!

@BlackMountainHoney 4 года назад

Thanks for watching. Yes - they are certainly a bit feisty. Smoke next time for these

@Fisherman2k 4 года назад

@@BlackMountainHoney If you can please record how you dealt with the chalkbrood that would be much appreciated. Thanks

@BlackMountainHoney 4 года назад

@@Fisherman2k No problem. I'll get a video sorted on that one next for you.

@danielgosden7207 4 года назад

Very runny bees I see.

@BlackMountainHoney 4 года назад

@@danielgosden7207 Yes. These ones are. That's local mongrels for you (round here anyway). The buckfast are like pussycats in comparison

@pottyplotter2462 4 года назад

👍 well explained, thank you 🐝🐝🐝

@BlackMountainHoney 4 года назад

no worries. Glad you enjoyed it

@TalRohan 4 года назад

Good stuff..I started using double brood to avoid having to try and get brood out of supers...its just a waste of frames. 14x12 might be a good solution for me....incidentally I could tell as soon as the video started that you had stopped using a smoker ..

@BlackMountainHoney 4 года назад

Yes - they were a bit cranky werent they. I use a smoker in this apiary now as are always a bit tetchy compared to the buckfast. Double brood works great for the correct bees but the wrong bees in double brood is a waste of frames and honey. Its all about fitting the boxes to the bees, not fitting the bees to the boxes :)

@mollyearl5833 2 года назад

I've got a few really strong hives come out of winter and want to do this. I'm in Cornwall and the weather is no good for inspection yet but keen to give them space as every sunny day they look really busy. Do you think it's a bit early to do this now or wait until the flow is on? Loving the videos by the way had good results with the demeree (however it's spelt) Cheers

@bluelab5019 Год назад

How about a video doing this in reverse? 14x12 to national. I'm doing it next season so some advice would be good 👍

@joshuasherrin9238 2 года назад

Came back to watch this one again! Adapted a few double brood BS hives. I run 14 x 12 so the plan is to overwinter and do this in the spring. My question is how would you go about splinting the double brood onto 2 14 x 12? One would have the queen so no drama (follow you vid) but what’s best for the 2nd one? Add a frame of eggs for them to requeen or how quickly after doing the split can you add a queen? How would you approach it? Thanks

@hawklord7008 2 года назад

I would never add a box of foundation under, always above so that the heat from the colony provides heat to draw the foundation.

@BlackMountainHoney 2 года назад

Works both ways. Just done a video showing that bees will draw foundation in Oct. They can certainly manage underneath in the summer months. It doesnt make a massive difference though so above or below is fine.

@hawklord7008 2 года назад

@@BlackMountainHoney I always find the foundation is drawn straighter if its placed above. A little early to be adding a 14 x 12 whilst you still have fondant on, nights will still be on the cool side in early spring.

@BlackMountainHoney 2 года назад

@@hawklord7008 As you point out. The heat will rise, so the brood is placed in the warmest place of the combined boxes. Early spring build up is rapid. The fondant was left on to provide fuel to draw the foundation which took place rapidly.

@TH-cl5be 3 года назад

hello, does the national deep frame spin ok compared to normal size super, and does the 12 x14 winter better in england. thanks

@BlackMountainHoney 3 года назад

Yeah they spin really well

@TH-cl5be 3 года назад

@@BlackMountainHoney how would you convert from a 2 deep brood nuc to the 12 x14 brood box,

@TH-cl5be 3 года назад

@@BlackMountainHoney is the national deep frame the 12x14.

@BlackMountainHoney 3 года назад

@@TH-cl5be No. Just a normal national deep. the 14 x 12 is sometimes called extra deep or jumbo

@Yorkiecpm1 2 года назад

Is it too late to perform this exercise today

@BlackMountainHoney 2 года назад

Maybe a bit late. Good to do at the end of the season though as the bees will end up in the top box over winter and you can them just remove the lower box.