Naturehike CLOUD UP 2 Vs 3FUL Gear LANSHAN 2 Ultralight Tents COMPARED

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IT'S A TENT OFF - This time between Trev's 2 Favourite Ultralight backpacking tents - The Lanshan 2 and the Cloud Up 2!
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@mondo73 4 года назад

Hey Trev, great comparison video. Keep it up. I gotta say that its worth mentioning that the cloudup comes with a footprint and also that the grey version weighs in less than the green version. Not to mention that it can be pitched using the fly only reducing weight even further. I love my cloudup. Cheers from the land down under mate.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yep, some great points there, Mondo - and as I mention in the video, I have done plenty of videos on the cloud up so far, including setting up as a tarp style with the outter first. All the vids can be found in this playlist - ru-vid.com/group/PLR8QfoEaj3F9I3QfLHkaT9cgOEn1zLl6i Thanks for watching

@GoodBlokeOutdoors 2 года назад

legend trev... I purchased the cloud up 2 - 20d new version in olive green after seeing your review videos.. channel is class mate, binge watching your videos all the time lately. KEEP IT UP.. SUMMIT OR NOTHING!

@Jimexter 3 года назад

Great review Trev. Seriously considering getting the cloud up 2 after all your great videos on it!

@SummitOrNothing 3 года назад

I would highly recomend it - I have loved mine. Thanks for watching!

@nonobunature815 4 года назад

I wanted Cloud UP2, so it was helpful! Thank you😆

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Cool - glad that it helped you!

@carlviner698 2 года назад

Hey Trev, spot on review of pitching these tents! Waiting for Outdoor Gear Essential's to get stock in of the Cloud up 2, spoke to Colin, he says he'll have them back in after Xmas! Spot on to do some winter wild camping. Keep it Up Trev#Bonyourno!!!

@jdmccartney1 4 года назад

Gotta start getting into using those trekking poles Trev.... I remember you have complained a few times about your knee joints giving you pain... the poles really help with that especially on those longer downhill stretches... I love both my lanshan 2 and cloudup 2.... I would say that if I was expecting bad weather on a hike I would tend towards the cloudup. Oh btw on the Lanshan you should double up on the corner pegs for the fly and the floor … that way you don't need any extra pegs. Some people replace the vestibule pegs with longer aluminum ones as they can pull out especially in strong winds... again though a very honest video with some great points … thanks

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yea, I have knee braces that seem to keep my knees at bay at the moment but I know what you mean. I tend to sway towards the cloud up for any bad weather too but I will take the lanshan out in some sh*t weather on Dartmoor at some point and give it a good test. Thanks for watching!

@salemluna8328 2 года назад

Thank you for posting this. I've been looking at different light or ultralight tents for my bugiut bag and I've heard another RU-vidr ALSO state that the Lanshan 2 is a bit finnicky to put up so you're not the only one that thinks that. It's something to consider, especially for the less experienced backpacker. Thank you

@LulululuZzzz 3 года назад

Thanks so much for comparing these too, I’m currently struggling between them. Still haven’t decide which to buy lol, they both have their pros and cons. But your video helped me a lot with clearing my thought!

@DartmoorPaul 3 года назад

Did you pick one in the end LZ? I’m 6’3” so struggling to pick a tent that will be long enough🙂

@williamhayward4517 2 года назад

Awesome video. I'm still debating which one for my 4 day hike in Scotland at the end of September. What's the lanshan like to pack away in the wet?

@onetimeoutdoorsdj1394 4 года назад

Very nice great video I really like how the one tent doesn't need any pulls you use your hiking poles unfortunately I do the majority of my backpacking in the winter and I don't see too many or any reviews of the tent in the winter so I look forward to seeing you do some tent camping in the winter

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yea - despite my failing to put it up correctly, the Lanshan is a great tent - I look forward to getting the 4 season outer and testing it for you! Thanks for watching!

@JasperJanssen 3 года назад

Summit Or Nothing *4 season inner. Same fly, but less mesh and more fabric in the inner.

@andrewbates1695 4 года назад

Currently (2019) sitting in my Lanshan in 70mph winds in Scotland, really sturdy tent.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Amazing!!! Thanks for watching

@dougdixonhull 4 года назад

Hi Trev Great video. I love the fact you didn't re-do the Lanshan set up. I like the truthful approach in your videos. Keep it up mate. Really like these tent off comparisons. I have the Banshee and liked the one with that and Phoxx. Cheers and can't wait for the next one😁⛺

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yeah, the Lanshan is a great tent but I do tend to screw it up first time everytime. It would have been a lie of I pretended otherwise. I will have to do another tent vs tent at some point... trouble is I am running out of tents haha. Thanks for watching!

@dougdixonhull 4 года назад

@@SummitOrNothing good excuse to buy more gear😂⛺😁

@raylamascus2296 4 года назад

Trev I like your backyard and old fence. I love the older architecture of England. We don't have anything like that here in Texas

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

YEah, it certainly has that rustic feel to it, Ray haha!

@andyinpattaya4215 4 года назад

Good video. Thank you for the review

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@seasicksteve8089 4 года назад

Hi Trevor. Good comparison between the two. I would struggle to find the best one. I'm using the berghaus peak 3.1 at the moment. You should get one. Amazing tent. Can't falt it. Anything mate carry on the good work. See you on the trail

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Cheers Steve - I will look into that tent when the funds allow - there's a few that I would love to try so thanks for the recommendation. All the best! Trev

@TheSilversurfmonkey 4 года назад

Really helpful vid, thanks. Aside from ditching the goundsheets or inners, how light do you think you could get these two? Maybe by ditching the inner storage bags, swapping to ti pegs, replacing guy lines etc. Maybe even using fixed carbon poles on the Lanshan?

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

YEah, pretty much what you said, I reckon. I did a video where I discuss the various options of setting up the Cloud Up 2 - using it as a tarp like set up being the ultralight option. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MyLVlE6_cb0.html

@nomadsergeant7551 4 года назад

Awesome comparison I have the Lanshan 2 and the Lanshan 1 Pro. I use the bungee on the inside to attach to my fly pegs instead of carrying 4 extra poles I also bought 9” aluminum pegs I carry 8 total pegs four corners, one on each vestibules, and two for the side guy wires if no trees to tie to! Awesome vid!

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Sounds like a keen set up there - thanks for commenting, and for watching! All the best!

@fatwhitebloke9851 3 года назад

Naturehike i like alot saw you use it in the highwinds on dartmoor .Swung it for me.

@jimtilbrook2389 4 года назад

Nice vlog Trev! I rather like the look of the naturehike copy of the Hilleberg Soulo, I saw this just after I’d brought a Vango Hydra 200. Maybe next year I’ll find another excuse to buy it to add to the collection.ATB Jim

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Haha! There's always an excuse to buy more tents, Jim!

@Lifeonthetrail 4 года назад

Great comparison video

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Cheers - glad you enjoyed it!

@alangauld6079 4 года назад

Been looking at cheap tents to replace my 45 year old Saunders Fellpine. Considering the Phoxx 2 and Naturehike Cloudup so your comparison vids have been really useful. So far it looks like the Naturehike is winning. Got until April to decide though so plenty time to watch more vids!

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Hi Alan - well there is plenty of vids out in the Naturehike, so far my tent of choice - lightweight, easy to put up and fairly stable, although it does pay to put extra guy ropes to it! Thanks for watching and good luck tent shopping in April.

@Jedward7009 4 года назад

Hi Trev, I have recently tested the Lanshan 2 in some very windy conditions in the Lake District. On both occasions the tent pegs that came with the tent failed to hold. Also one of the plastic hook clips which attaches the vestibule door guide ropes to the vestibule peg snapped in the wind. I would strongly recommend changing the tent pegs for longer aluminium pegs. This may save you having a collapsed tent in the early hours. Apart from the pegs and plastic hook clip the tent held up well in very strong winds. Look forward to your review of the winter inner tent . Cheers Mike Outdoors.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Ah, you're not the first person to suggest the longer Ali pegs, I will certainly look into that. Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching!

@theemeraldexodus 4 года назад

I love my Cloud up so much I bought a second one when they went on sale lol. I am eager to try the Lanshan 2 so I thank you for posting this video!

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Not a problem. They are both really great tents. Thanks for watching!

@JasperJanssen 3 года назад

For me, my cloud up 2 (pre-upgrade) is a bit on the small side. I can do a diagonal lay but I hate it, and straight up I can only lie in the fetal position. Unfortunately the regular lanshan 2 is barely bigger, although the pro seems to be. I thought I’d buy 3f ul gear 2-3 person pyramid, which is huge, but it’s also out of stock all over the place.

@pluggothesluggo5509 3 года назад

@@JasperJanssen jesus chris how tall are you

@JasperJanssen 3 года назад

@@pluggothesluggo5509 193cm or so, 6’4” ish. It’s not that it’s *hugely* too small, just a little, that’s what makes it so frustrating.

@DaveOutdoors 4 года назад

Another fine comparison video, by another legend that walks this planet. Well done mate, I do my love my lanshan 2, such a great tent that holds up great in the wind. ATB Dave Outdoors 👍

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Tony Slattery will get you everywhere.

@DaveOutdoors 4 года назад

@@SummitOrNothing 😂🤣I know Tony well 😂🤣 I'm yet to try, but what do you think of the lanshan in winter ? ATB 👍

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

I've not tried the 4 season inner, yet - is on my list though!

@LundysWildcampBushcraft 4 года назад

Two cracking tents iv got the lanshan 1 had it up the cheviot hills in strong winds and had no problems I like it that much I'm thinking about getting the lanshan 2 thanks for sharing trev atvb Jimmy 😎😎

@adopancia7445 4 года назад

Lundy's Wildcamp/Bushcraft Hi, I have both the Lanshan 2 and this Asta Gear, and I definitely prefer this last one: much better made and refined, and the chance of having more setting options and a 4 seasons inner tent for a little more £... check it s.aliexpress.com/zEBFfuEj

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yeah, I have yet to test the Lanshan in any conditions higher than a slight breeze - but when I do, I will be sure to share the results! Cheers, Jimmy!

@Romulos1 7 месяцев назад

Hi, great video. Great comparison. They compare similar but the cloud is a free standing tent and includes everything. I feel is personal choice. I feel that the cloud is better and light all around. I'm looking into getting a 2 person tent and 6pu gave good ideas, thank you😂

@HikeCamp 4 года назад

Another great tentoff... 👍😀

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Cheers Max!

@jackbyrnes3921 4 года назад

Hi Trev. I have a cloud up 2 upgraded in grey. I like that in those spots where condensation is unavoidable the solid panels keep me and the inner floor dry. Weight is ok for the money, easy to set up. Cons is front entry is pain in bum and a poor use of space but I think if the wind is consistent from one direction, put the non door end in wind and that will justify the one door. The pegs that came with it are not great, bent one in my backyard. Buy a dozen of MSR ground hogs. I suggest as a video idea a good comparison of the offerings of Nature Hike would be the Star River and the Cloud Up 2. Come on Naturehike, give Trev one of each to review and give away!

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Haha! I have one of each, actually - I will have to get that video made at some point. I haven't had much trouble with the pegs myself, but I always find that when I set up in to the wind - with the back end pointing into it - before too long, the wind changes and the sail like design is catching the full force of the wind. Thanks for watching, Jack!

@Liam-kr8zm 4 года назад

Hi Trevor Have you thought about hiking the ‘southdowns way’ or the Offa’s Dyke oneday ? When are you doing an autumn solo overnight hike / wild camp ?

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

I hope to get to most of the countries trails once I have more funds and time to do so, Liam. And I will be doing plenty of camping over the autumn and winter this year. I have dartmoor right on my doorstep now. Thanks for dropping a comment!

@timweaver5370 2 года назад

Thanks for giving the weight of the Lanshan without your poles. While trying to keep weight down for your back your poles are serving a duel purpose. Your assembly time is biased though as you won’t be fully collapsing or expanding your trekking poles for use on the trail. Thanks for the review though.

@craigelliott4338 Год назад

I now own both, just got a lanshan 2!

@Obi-Wan_Pierogi 2 года назад

I'm actually debating between the Cloud Up 1 and the Lanshan 1 right now. The first bit where you showed the two packages next to each other was what I needed to see.

@Wsmith247 Год назад

Got one of these because of your reviews, Found a purple one on Amazon for $83.00. Will set it up tomorrow and see if all is well.

@SummitOrNothing Год назад

Awesome. Hope you get on well with it. Cheers

@jossthomas123456 4 года назад

Interesting. I think I would prefer the Cloud Up on a mountain in bad weather but the other looks nice too👍

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yea - I think you're probably right, Joss! The cloud up can withstand quite a lot and doesn't rely as heavily on my being able to put it up correctly as theLanshan does haha!

@ohiovetoutdoors Год назад

You are correct

@kenhenley7599 4 года назад

Mondo's right.....another great comparison video. I'm not in the market (well at least not yet) for another tent but if I was I would have great difficulty choosing between the two - both have pros and cons. Decisions, decisions!

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yep - two great tents - and both relatively lightweight and a great budget price!

@ROGER247 4 года назад

Great Vid 👍

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Cheers Roger!

@leogiloni8204 4 года назад

There is kinda new tent called XUNSHANG, 1 man tent but huge vestibule, would be great if you tried it :)

@gemcityadventures9240 4 года назад

i'm new to your videos but i do know that the tent works similar to my six moons tent and while watching i noticed that you use two pegs at the doors...only one is supposed to be used which it also why your not getting proper tention on the tent. the guyline is supposed to come down from the top, knot at where the peg goes into the ground and the continue on to the door inself. also one peg for each corner, the inner tent is on bungee cord bc it pulls out and goes over the same corner peg as is holding the outside corner.

@MOTODANS 4 года назад

Nice one, new sub here. Awaiting my flames creed coming from China, if I had seen this I may have got the nature hike however we will be 2 people a lot of the time and the 2 doors would sin it for us I think. Hopefully not be to much of a faff when we get it.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

DEfinitely a good choice either way - bare in mind that I use both of these tents on my own, so yeah, I would say if its two of you, the Lanshan woud be the best choice. Thanks for watching!

@WildAstro 4 года назад

I’ll be honest; when I first saw your Lanshan 2 lit up like a Chinese lantern when you took it out first time I honestly thought it looked the nastiest, cheapest piece of rubbish I had ever seen. How wrong I was, and I’ve now got one for myself. I love it.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

I know what you mean - I really don't do it any justice in these videos haha!

@benjaminthancock 4 года назад

You can use a single peg on the corners of the Lanshan 2. Just put the black elastic bit on the same peg as the fly.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Ok, cool. Cheers Ben!

@neemancallender9092 4 года назад

lanshan II peg out the four corners First pole and guy second pole and guy make adjustments then the pull outs 5 minutes Then you have two very large vestibules

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

You make it sound so easy haha! Cheers for that!

@adopancia7445 4 года назад

Summit Or Nothing Just a little note to this correct pricedure: when you peg out the 4 corner leave no tension at all. Put your poles at 125/130cm, give tension on the 4 cornets as the last thing to do, just before puttong the 2 side guy lines. You will have a drum solid fly. Then adjust the tension of the inner tent on the corners.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

THanks very much - will try this method next time I take the Lanshan out - thanks for watching!

@adopancia7445 4 года назад

Summit Or Nothing I checked better, and pole length for the best pitch is 47/47.5 inches, which is 120/122cm, not 125/130.

@lyndseygolden7546 3 года назад

I've been in sandier soil lately and suddenly I can't seem to get my lanshen 2 Ridgeline not to droop. I need some sturdier tent tips. help Thank you.

@morph6589 3 года назад

Ok I give up, it's driving me mad now 😄 What is that tune that you use in some of your videos, including this one while you were putting up the first tent, its the tune that sounds like it's played on a piano...?? I feel as though I know it, but can't place it.

@garyhertswildcamper8958 4 года назад

I'm loving my cloud up 2. Took it on a week long bike packing trip with no problems. By some kinda quirk of amazon i got it for £71, i was meant to pay £80. But no complaints there. Its a great tent for the money for sure, but as i said in the amazon revue. We all know its an MSR knock off. And it is what i term a 1 man in comfort tent. time will tell if i should have gone for a more expensive one. I also like the optional mesh only feature, considering some of the hot summer nights we've had in recent years.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Hi Gary - its a fantastic little tent for sure - and packs down to a great size and weight too. Great when you manage to get some mistaken bargains with online purchases. I got a flat screen TV for free many years ago. I had cancelled the order, and then it turned up anyway! Brilliant!

@ericlim6902 Год назад

I am considering getting a tent. Lanshan 2 vs naturehike mongar 2.

@deanhallesy1 4 года назад

I would like to try one of these Chinese tents. Could be a cloud up on the crimbo list :) Nice one trev

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

It certainly is a great budget tent, Dean. Cheers for watching!

@hike-and-fly-adventures 2 месяца назад

Bloody hell there aren't many Trevs around!!! Hi Trev, from another Trev. Update on this 4 years on buddy?

@rustybits5342 4 года назад

i have the cloud up 2 i just wish the fly door could open from the top and bottom but still a great tent

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yeah, I know what you mean. Cheers Rusty!

@patrickmoody9367 3 года назад

I like the way you say lanshan, sounds like mansion!

@SummitOrNothing 3 года назад

Haha!

@paddle_hike 4 года назад

I've been using lanshan tents for a long time and well... TIPS: Stakes 4 corners first and after you put the poles ;) ....set up takes less than 3-4 minutes. It's not the best for winter for sure... But other than that..I love it

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Cheers for dropping us a comment - I do love the lanshan - and although it says its easy to put up - it seems that every tone out of three times I put it up I struggle... not sure why! Thanks for watching!

@jefffedwards1 4 года назад

Nice comparison 👍I am a Lanshan 2 and owner had the same issue as you with the pegs that came with it, they're crap in softer ground. Swapped them out for some titanium V pegs and no issues, and no need to double peg for inner and outer. I've also had it out in some atrocious conditions a few times on Kinder Scout.. One time in 50mph (ish) winds and sideways rain, and found that pointing a door in to the wind and pegging it straight down instead of connecting it to the guy line worked well and it took a beating with ease, and I had the opposite door open most of the time too! Good little tent, especially for the price!

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Ah that's some great advice and tips there, very useful thanks. I shall have to give them a try and swap them pegs too. Thanks for watching.

@la1498 2 года назад

Could you review the mongar 2 possibly with the extra vestibule option? Compaired to the cloud up?

@SummitOrNothing 2 года назад

Funny tou should say that.... finally reviewing the mongar this week, but not with the vestibule I'm afraid.

@michaelsapsford6013 4 года назад

Hi Trev. Do you find that the wind gets under the outer skin on the Lanshan? I'm very tempted with one but would like it lower to the ground. Not sure if it's down to the height of the walking poles or not 🤞 cheers as always

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

You can always set the pole slower I guess, but, I can't recall the wind getting under being a prblem, but if you plan on going in any season other than summer, make sure you buy a 3-4 season inner. Don't make the same mistake as I did!

@michaelsapsford6013 4 года назад

@@SummitOrNothing cheers trev

@gnarly706 4 года назад

I inner reqires no pegs on the lanson is clips to the pegs off the flysheets pegs on the corners.

@horizontaal 4 года назад

Great comparison, very useful reactions! I bought the grey Cloud 2 upgrade. The Lanshan 2 was so cheap, I thought it had to be crap. But after seeing some positive reviews I bought it anyway, because of the weight difference. Probably like many people here. I use a 3f ul raincoat/backpack cover as footprint, to save even more weight - works well. My favorite of the two so far is the Lanshan 2, even on bike trips when weight is not a big issue. It just feels a bit roomier.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yeah, the Lanshan looks like its rubbish - but m=amazing how well it performs isnt it. Thanks for watching.

@adopancia7445 4 года назад

I have both of the tents and I can’t stand the single front entrance of the Cloud Up. Much more convenient for me the two lateral doors of the Lanshan. And I use tracking poles, so even the weight of the Lanshan makes me prefer this one. Btw, for the Lanshan you can have a 4 seasons inner tent.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yeah, I agree the single door can be a pain, but to be honest, until I purchased the Lanshan, every tent I had used had only ever had one door. I am aware of the 4 season inner - I will be getting one for the winter.

@Synchrodipity 4 года назад

The main reason I steer clear of trekking pole tents, is that I wouldn't want to be out in the wilds with nothing to prop the bugger up if a pole breaks -- and I have seen plenty snap over the years. (although it hasn't happened to me personally yet)

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yeah, that is a valid point, but then a tent pole could just as easily break - I always carry duct tape with me, wrapped around a credit card for extreme emergencies.

@janeseacombe9078 2 года назад

They didn't give me enough pegs either I emailed them and they sent me more.didnt discover this till I was out in the wilds .Two guy ropes had to secured round rocks.( No trees .up a mountain ! ) Loved the tent tho

@vincentzockt5816 4 года назад

I love my Naturehike 👌

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Me too.

@bigboywooly 4 года назад

Put your pegs in at 45 degree angle. Wont pull out so easy on soft ground. Nice comparison video tho. The Chinese tents seem to be very popular at the moment

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yea, I usually do, so not sure what was going on with the earth in my garden. frustrating! Apart from that, two great tents. Thanks for watching!

@DanOutdoorsUK 4 года назад

I know a few people with both these and they're very good tents for the price

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yep, they've certainly got popular! Great tents!

@ronmathias6719 4 года назад

Just bought the Lanshan and its great!! Im thinking i might as well get the Cloud up 2 as an alternative for the price! Thanks for the great video and info bud!!

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yeah, two great tents, and I always seem to be umming and arring between the two before I leave. The cloud up is my winter tent at the moment! Thanks for watching, Ron!

@rayanderson921 4 года назад

Great comparison mate, you know which I prefer, I do trust the Cloud Up 2

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Haha! Thats great to hear, Ray! Thanks for commenting!

@willeymunda Год назад

Is that the 20d version of the cloud up 2 or the 210t? What’s the better option?

@thijmenaeissing9654 Год назад

I'm also curious

@linedwell 4 года назад

Ive been watching your vids for a while Trev, always enjoy them. Tonight my 6 year old was sat next to me, first time she's seen one and she wants to know, "Why has he put Incy Wincy Spider music on his tent video?" (Id never noticed it.. she did..😂)

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Thats my "I've only gone and Trevved it up again" theme haha!

@linedwell 4 года назад

@@SummitOrNothing well that explains why it's played so often..... 😝 (Only joking... 😉)

@zakfalls 3 года назад

Re:cloudup2, I've been just stuffing the sheets in pockets, so no specific carry bag. Would appreciate your thoughts on this please. Thanks

@SummitOrNothing 3 года назад

Yea,I've noticed recently that a lot of people split the innings out of the bag and stuff them in different pockets. I, personally, always fight for pocket space so just stick to the bag it comes with.

@zakfalls 3 года назад

@@SummitOrNothing thank you, so you wouldn't expect any damage from doing so? that is the only thing bugging me!

@SummitOrNothing 3 года назад

@@zakfalls to be honest I just above the thing into the sack anyway, find it easier and quicker than rolling it up. So probably not much difference than shoving into pockets.

@SummitOrNothing 3 года назад

@@zakfalls to be honest I just above the thing into the sack anyway, find it easier and quicker than rolling it up. So probably not much difference than shoving into pockets.

@jenyates3033 4 года назад

Lanshan 2 : It's light, I bought carbon poles. It's big for the weight. It pitches fly first. It has has two porches & doors. But... It's possible for a bad pitch to give you contact between fly and inner. You may want to tweak things to get a nice pitch (I retired the inner to fly elastics to drop the knner). There can be a large air gap low down. All in all, is it perfect? No, but I like mine.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

YEah, I have noticed how the ridge line does seem to drop off after time and needs a bit of tweaking to prevent the two skins touching. Thanks for commenting!

@ohiovetoutdoors Год назад

I own both and the Lan always forms a drip by the side pull outs when It rains. I've seam sealed etc. Never wanted to take it out in bad weather. Just don't trust it. So far the cloud up has been bullet proof in rain and winds.

@texmexia49 4 года назад

Bigfoot had a great hack on putting up a tent that uses trekking poles. Stake out one side, move to the other side and put up a trekking pole/stake out the vestibule. Move back to the other side and put up the other trekking pole/stake out the vestibule. Move back to the other side and stake out the sides. Finish by staking out the ends. Brilliant!

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Sounds a great hack, I shall have to look into it! Thanks for commenting!

@pawelmacpoof5687 Год назад

I don’t have the lanshen tent but spitballing here, why not get a cheap decathlon pair of hiking poles that fold up to nothing

@shaunbowen 4 года назад

Wow your Cloud Up 2 has gone so mouldy it's turned entirely green

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Haha! Yea, you should smell it inside lol

@jantomaszrogala4230 3 года назад

hey Summit or Nothing :) tks for the vid, good points but I must admit you did poor job with pitching lanshan 2, takes leisurely 5 min and is nice and tense, height 115cm for more ventilation 120cm, held fine in big winds, weight for the lanshan2 pro 1000gr for two persons, you can get better only with expensive zpacks or big agnes, most of us use trekking poles anyway, I wouldn't add it to the weight of the shelter, the pegs poor quality, exchanged them for six titanium shepherd hooks (6gr each) and two sierra designs pegs for the main trekking poles guy lines(10gr each) all together pegs 56gr. comparing to cloud up 2: lighter, more space, more vestibule space-gear, cooking, (I own also lanshan 2 double wall, with lighter pegs and no stuff sacks 1250gr) I keep shelter in the outside mesh pocket, most of the time it is a bit wet with either rain or condensation, drying if possible during the day, take care :)

@cncdaddio 4 года назад

The CloudUp can be used free standing.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yep. It can.

@marmax2437 3 года назад

Why is my lanshan 2 only 1150 grams? Or better why is yours heavier? Weighed mine in the stuff sack, with stakes and everything right how it came frome the manufacturer. My poles make 490 (Decathlon 15€ per piece) so the set comes in around 1600 grams. Which is fairly light. Still doesn't answer why yours is so "heavy".

@witoldwoznica4612 3 месяца назад

I noticed this too . Looks dodgy

@georgedpost 4 года назад

It always takes me longer to pack up then set up.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

I know what you mean - I used to dread the packing away but now, once my bags packed the packing up of a tent is a lot easier than I ever remember it! Cheers for watching, George!

@niksgee3538 4 года назад

Don't know if you mean to be funny. But your videos make me laugh... Only a man would admit he packed the tent down wet then do a review, and then showcase it complete with sweet wrappers from its last trip out. 😂 Funny as...

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Haha... It's what I like to call warts 'n all broadcasting. The way I see it my videos would be dull if I did everything right, right? Thanks for watching and glad that I make you laugh.

@TheMrEduz 4 года назад

lanshan is not setup properly, you don't neex extra pegs (check out yt vids for the proper setup). thanks for the comparison anyway, very useful! ;)

@dmytrodance 2 года назад

Man, you wouldn't pack them this way, othervise you'd have a wet tent the next night! In the mountains packing tents goes differently.

@markbarry1977 Год назад

I had to laugh at the faffing around with the poles. Simply set them to the correct height and then mark them with a permanent marker, that way you don’t have to mess about trying to get the poles the right height..

@borg386 2 года назад

This makes me want to just use my 8lb instant tent that sets up in 1 minute or less.

@BlackHell01 4 года назад

Just Bought a Lanshan 2 Flames Creed. I'll be testing it out with my kid in October after i seam seal it but i dare not show the missus this video after watching you put it up she's going to take the mickey out of me forever !!

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

I know, I have got this down to a tee the last few times, typical that the day I put aside the time to film this video I Trev it right up again haha! I will be going for a flames creed myself at some point. Hope you get on well with it!

@andrewmoon1898 4 года назад

I have no interest in either tent. But I watched for the Summit or Nothin fumble. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 virtually guaranteed.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Haha! Yeah, you know I'm gonna Trev it up somewhere along the line.

@WASRT001 4 года назад

I think I would shave the weight and make my own poles with tree branches.... Can't be that difficult...

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

You don't always see that many trees on Dartmoor

@2onthehunt 3 года назад

You really shouldn't have weighed the trekking poles with the tent see as you really don't have to have them. Sticks do the same job.

@SummitOrNothing 3 года назад

Don't get many sticks up on Dartmoor though

@thecornishwildcamper 4 года назад

I'd prefer the cloud up 2 as its darker in colour and it would be just me using it.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

Yea - as I say there is a darker version of the Lanshan - I hope to acquire one shortly. I did (and still do) own a grey cloud up as well, but picked it up in green to not stand out quite so much on the moors. Thanks for watching!

@thecornishwildcamper 4 года назад

@@SummitOrNothing with watching your videos and others its given me motivation to go up and walk the moors.

@meadowscolin 3 года назад

Lol I bet ur mrs was laughing whilst u were doing this.

@SummitOrNothing 3 года назад

My missus doesn't laugh at anything I do, whether I am being funny or not lol

@jetmanwalking 4 года назад

Watch a couple set-up videos for Lanshan 2 brother! Your demonstration is far from correct.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

I have watched many - had had many successful set ups before this video - but it went wrong when putting it up for this video - which went to prove a point that it can be a bit of a awkward set up.

@bobbafett1971 4 года назад

You shouldn't add polls to weight....your carrying them with either tent...completely flawed..add the polls to cloud up too...or hike without them when using cloud up tent...

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

I do tend to take the poles only if I am tarping or using the Lanshan. I rarely pack them with the cloud up, so not flawed. I just wanted to see if I was better off packing the Lanshan and my poles or the Cloud Up. But if you do carry the poles anyway, then I have included the weight of the Lanshan with or without... so all the information is there.

@michaelpenney3775 3 года назад

Seems a lot of faff putting lanchan up

@johnmccarron 3 года назад

It takes you that amount of time llllllololollll joke ain't it

@scottyplug 4 года назад

You've completely done this wrong. Crap comparison. Period.

@scottyplug 4 года назад

You've undone the preset knots in the guy lines? Fail. And double staked the corners? Fail. Dude. Look at some of the 100s of other RU-vid vids before you try to post a comparison vid using the Lanshan.

@SummitOrNothing 4 года назад

@@scottyplug I haven't undone any knots, and I have tried to single peg the corners in previous outings and the bathtub bottom never really sat right. I feel more confident having extra pegs. I have been out several times and found that despite watching various videos the lanshan is a lot more fiddly than the Naturehike. I never profess to being a pro, just an honest idiot as my viewers have come to expect.