Navlog for your checkride - What you should know 

Very kind words, thank you! I'm genuinely glad you found the content useful!

Best of luck! Thank you!

Thanks!

Thank you for the feedback, I hope you found the video informative!

You're very welcome!

You're very welcome!

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Thank you for the feedback! Your welcome!

So glad!

Glad it was helpful!

So nice of you

Great to hear! Thank you for the feedback and I hope to release many more in the future.

That's awesome! Keep up the hard work!

Glad it helped you out! The manual method of navigation is a dying art, challenge yourself and go out and practice. I plan on doing a video, in flight, that demonstrates how best to do it.

@@SethLakeDPE Thanks for your response Seth. Im at around 65hrs and just have my Cross Country Dual and and Solo time left to do for flight requirements. Working on trying to get ready to take the FAA Written exam and if completed then its down to preparing for Final Checkride. Your content has brought up good topics such as this to put focus on. Would love to chat with you more over time to ensure im at a good spot for the checkride preparation. Im also a USAF Veteran (non Pilot).

Great! Good luck!

You welcome!

Interesting. I would argue my case in front of any DPE that ForeFlight is completely acceptable as a sole source of weather information. There is simply zero published information from the FAA stating that FF is not valid. The only Advisory Circular that specified approved vendors of weather was AC 00-62 which expired in 2013. The current guidance for self briefing is AC 91-92 which has a helpful preflight checklist. Although it doesn't mention ForeFlight, the provided checklist is almost a step by step copy of the ForeFlight generated briefing that can be found in the 'Flights' tab. Additionally, the AC states that pilots SHOULD use online resources to conduct a self-briefing prior to contacting flight service and goes on to say that flight service is a consultative resource to be used as needed. Lastly, ForeFlight timestamps your briefing when completed and keeps that information for 20 days on it's servers, providing proof that you did in fact complete a self-briefing that complies with FAR 91.103. I think that is more than enough sources to quote any DPE that tells you it's not approved. DPEs are human and can be wrong, I will be the first one to confess I don't know everything. If you run into one that thinks they do know everything and won't accept change, find another one to work with.

I think I remember that actually. Did you know that I was one of the owners of that plane?

@SethLakeDPE oh no I didn't! I'm assuming you know Adam Boyd then. He checked me out in it

I do. Adam and I had that plane with a couple of other partners. Actually, I started my civilian flight instructing career in that aircraft several years ago (before we bought it). I absolutely love that plane. You can see my little brother solo it on one of the older videos on my channel here.

@SethLakeDPE awesome! I loved the way it flew. Had a few good learning experiences with it. Fly Bonanzas now and absolutely love the beechcraft product. Using your videos to study for my CPL checkride

Agreed

Good points. In that case, a paper navlog might be the best option. Although, planning the entire flight at 5500 and just leveling off for a period of time to get out from under the class B wouldn't have a big impact on the overall timing. Any timing issues could easily be accounted for by changing the average groundspeed slightly. Personally, I would be fine with a ForeFlight navlog in your case. 91.205 still lists a magnetic direction indicator. Saying a G1000NXI and/or G5 have no magnetic compass is technically incorrect. The Garmin GMU 11 and GMU 22 Magnetometer is a digital, solid state magnetic direction indicator that feed the G1000 and G5 with information. You are correct in stating they have no compass card, but knowing they exist and fullfil the requirements of a traditional rotating mass instrument is just as important. Stay tuned for some videos I'll be doing on solid state avionics where I will go into more details. Cheers!

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It really depends on the geography of what you're flying over. If you are somewhere in west Texas, there may not be visual points every 10 or 20 miles. In that case, you're using dead reckoning versus pilotage. We talk about pilotage and dead reckoning as if they are the same thing, but they are distinct from one another. Charles Lindbergh used pure dead reckoning to cross the North Atlantic. Pure pilotage would be following I-40 across the US. In actual practice, we use a mixture of both in different ratios, depending on factors terrain and geography. That's a long explanation to your straightforward question. To boil it down, I think 10-15 miles between points is adequate. Chapter 16 of Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge uses checkpoints that are spaced between 10-15 miles as well (just for reference). Although the sport PTS may be different, navigation is navigation no matter what your aircraft is certified for. However, slower aircraft may find it helpful to have slightly closer checkpoints due to the slower groundspeed.

I think most examiners would expect you to have a basic knowledge of climb calculations and how they differ from cruise calculations. I would be prepared to discuss how you calculate them and how you programmed ForeFlight to calculate them.

The POH is the best place to start.

I think we agree for the most part, however I don't think that being a good "paper-planner" means that you will automatically be a good "electronic-planner". They are two distinct skills and being good at one doesn't mean you will be good at the other. Thank you for the thoughtful feedback and best of luck on your upcoming checkride! I'm sure you will do great!

You're welcome and glad you got a smile out of my clothing choice ;)

Absolutely! Now, its critical that you know HOW foreflight comes up with the navigation information. If you don't know how the information is calculated then you cannot demonstrate proficiency in the required skills. As long as you know how to do the calculations then using ForeFlight (or any other electronic planning software) is perfectly acceptable.

Tell your neighbor congratulations for me.

Nice! That's some real navigation practice

Checkout the Airplane Flying Handbook chapter on navigation

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Sorry

Again, I disagree with you here.

I agree with your first sentence (or attempt at one). Ironically, I own a multi-engine school so the I guess I'm not involved in the "silly" part of GA. Good to know. I'm not even going to address putting BRS on all aircraft.

@@SethLakeDPE okay mister parachute basher. Just go to chrome, search tools and last 24 hours. Do it everyday and you'll see so many deaths in general aviation daily. The acs is trash and I require all my students to fly in pipistrels, cirruses and there are many others coming along. Fusion magnus makes a very good plane I flew in 🇭🇺. Make a few videos on the inefficiency of the low iq faa still teaching the same deadly as that my gramps used in the same planes my gramps flew in. I have a net worth of 18,000,000 from not following low iq.

I didn't bash BRS. Congratulations for being smart and wealthy.

@@SethLakeDPE oh my bad.

@@SethLakeDPE your lucky you're not my dpe because I wouldn't answer any dumb questions. I'll probably do my checkride soon. I fly out of Melbourne Fl in an older sr20. If I get any dumb questions or he asks me to do short field landings on a long airport ill just say can't do.

Your worth 1M more than a couple of days ago. At this rate you can just pay a full time pilot to worry about all of this.

@@SethLakeDPE I always say 18,000,000 but it’s really 32,000,000. I doubt I wrote 17,000,000 but ok. I actually can hire a pilot and that my friend is a great idea! I wish I hadn’t started off so sarcastic with you so I could have asked you some serious questions. Can I use google earth or not? Also, if I bought a cirrus and owned it could I rent it out and have it pick up a decent amount of the bill? I’m in Melbourne beach Florida..so a mid level city. I hate assets that don’t pay for themselves. I have all residential, commercial and industrial properties….obviously they are rented and that is my income. Even my river front property gets rented when I’m not there. You’re a bad ass and I was just messing with you…thanks for your service and thanks for your service to the aviation community.