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They are both elite. I knew a couple of SARC's in Afghanistan when I was in the Marines special operations for 9 years. One saved my life with my last deployment Afghanistan. I was shot I'm the hip and was losing a lot blood. I have a new hip now so thank God for there training.
My Grandfather was a battlefield USAFFE surgeon during World War 2 and survived the Bataan Death March, my father is a general and vascular surgeon, and I am a physician. Much respect to these warriors who train and give their life to save others!
Made me think twice about wanting to be a PJ watching that section about the SARCs but then my desire was solidified as I watched the section about PJs
PJs get to go to all of the schools day one as a package deal with their training. SARCS you have to fight to go through some of the schools later on which is dependent on the unit you get assigned to. For instance SARCS do not by default get freefall halo training they only go to Fort Benning for basic jump school like the Rangers. Pararescue has a limitless budget and because there’s only a couple special forces career foot fields in the Air Force they have tremendous financing with all the toys and gadgets along with it.
@@AmericanWithTheTruth There are no "Special Forces" career fields aside from in the Army. And the Air Force has just as many Tier1/2 Jobs as any other branch, the only difference is we don't have basic Infantry or grunts and thus our battle field jobs are tailored as such. The budget is not "limitless" but needs to match whatever element a PJ, SR, CCT, Etc etc will be working with. Put simply the higher up the Tier organization you go the more funding you get, that is with all branches and career fields.
@@Justforfun-ek7et Thank You for Your Service...I have Much Respect and Love for they USN...BOTH of My Grandfathers were USN in WW2, My Mothers Father was A Tail Gunner on B52s stationed in the Phillipines and My Dad's Father was a Ship Welder and was wounded at Pearl Harbor !! I tried joining my Senior year of High School but was denied because I had heart damage from Rhematic fever I caught when I was 3yr old...It pissed me off knowing that something that was not of my own fault caused my being turned away and still does to this day...So Much Love and Respect to You and Everyone that Served and is Serving !!!
"When I was training to be an SP in the Air Force the "PJ recruits (most who you saw there didn't make it past that first school at Lackland AFB)" did PT all day long." ........fixed
@@richardstorm4603 I live right behind the first phase of special warfare trainees(right after bmt). They graduate this week I believe. There was like 40-50 of them when I saw them arrive, now from what I can tell there is only like 15-20 left. I mainly see them doing PT and rucking.
Hey, just wanted to say, I'm a ten year EMT in my state and you nailed all of the medical lingo. Appreciate you getting it correct. And love the videos.
Yes you can, but if you can pass the minimum/average scored events in the course. Even if you have a "never say die" mentality but if your body can't take it, you will still fail.
@@charliedelta988 That’s condescending and offensive. So called “regular” forces training, schools, and ascension has to be earned as well and is not just given to u or designed for u to “pass”. As with anything in the military, your level of dedication and application determines your progress and success and you definitely can fail or come up short. What does separate SF/ Spec Ops from “regular forces” is the few “regular” personnel that “wear out their knee pads” or “kiss ass” their way through training and their careers. Won’t say it doesn’t happen in SF/Spec Ops but it is a lot harder to do that because although you work as a team, your individual efforts are more closely observed and scrutinized leaving less room to blend in and be carried by everyone else.
@@aaronsmith9009 bro you posted this without any context to the actual video you’re referencing. He was suffering hypothermia. There was nothing he could’ve done since his brain was literally getting fucked up from the cold.
Yes. Its about 2 years long. After that they would have to attend continuation training in hospitals or something to further experience and enhance their medical skills for about a year maybe. And those assigned to special tactics squadrons have to attend the Special Tactics Advanced Skills Training, further about 6 to 12 months I think.
@Aldrin Abad why dont you look it up,were called PARARESCUE...And if you were ever wounded during combat and needed someone to come get your ASS during combat,YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO ASK
@Aldrin Abad I KNOW PLAYING VIDEO GAMES IN YOUR MOMS BASEMENT MAKES YOU AN EXPERT JUST FOR YOUR INFO I SERVED 11 YRS IN THE CORP 17 IN TGE USAF DID 12 COMVAT DEPLOYMENTS IN THOSE 28 YRS.. SO SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE AND TEXT ME WHEN YOU GROW UP AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE
Im forever grateful for units like these, and in particular the pj's; who risked it all to get to me. If any (former) pj reads this. Thank you; you guys truly are guardian angels !
I did the PJ test in basic with about 12 other recruits from my squadron. Only 3 of us completed it, the other 2 guys made the score. I missed by a few points, but was told I qualified for combat controller. After the test the 3 of us that completed the course got a day off. One hell of a workout if you did that 3 times a week.
If you consider Reserves and Guard there are a lot more bases. Locations in Oregon, Kentucky, Southeast Florida, and I think a few others that I can't remember off the top of my head.
@@jetlee4life5164 got hurt referring to what? I fractured my knee in Sep 2019 and have 3 titanium screws in it.. would that matter? [edited for spelling]
Bravo Gentlemen ! I have great respect for both SARCs and PJs. They serve our country, save lives, and keep us free. Could you make a video on Army Special Forces vs. Marine Raiders. That would be a great video. Thank You Gentlemen.
SARC !!great intel Guys!!! Wish I had this video to watch in 1986 when I attended the SARC PIPELINE... I was blessed with health and stamina to make it through!!! Now I’m old but Retired!!!!Go Navy !!
Navy Special Amphibious Reconnaissance Corpsmen ( SARCs) and Air Force Pararescue Jumpers, are Military Medics who are The United States Armed Force's Battlefield Badasses and Special Operations Shooters and SOF Medicine , par excellance. My Respect for Them. Ooh Rah and Hooah!!🇺🇸🦅🗽
The reason PJs are sought after in SOF isn’t for their Med skills. It’s because they are the experts in technical rescue. So situations of complex rescue involving either ropes or extrication equipment. There isn’t a more qualified force in the DOD in these skills.
Also high angle and narrow space rescue and the specialized extraction of flight crews from aircraft with live ordnance. Also retrieval or destruction of high value documents or equipment and rescue or retrieval of submerged personnel from vessels, vehicles, or subterranean caves. PJ = Rescue specialist with small unit combat training, advanced trauma training and SERE skills. Able to integrate well in other military service's teams.
On top of that all PJ’s are top tier war fighters. Basically PJs can sneak up behind you, cut out your butthole, leave and you’ll never know until you realize your dead.
@@mountaingem6 all aircrew go through SERE in the AF and that includes females. SERE is nothing special but it is still a tough course. I went through AF SERE in 99
@@zebrajenksI went through in the 60s. How tough depends on what course you took. I mentioned it not because of how tough it is but because of the skill set is available to protect you and your patient untill extraction.
All a green beret really is is doing a shit load of trading deploying and training for example Iraqi soldiers then when there done training them they go on a mission.
@@joshuastaugler9424 Agree with that, that's why i'd be nice to see some comparisons between them given Marine Raiders also have foreign internal defense as their main task.
Apples and oranges. Raiders are more comparable to seals, direct action. SF are really a field of their own. Their job is mainly to support and train guerillas, unconventional war, and something called FID.
pararescue stationed at mountain view CA, and Eglin AFB florida. Pipeline is 98% drop out rate more than seal.and they have to qualify in precision shooting and tactics, where they go into a sniper classes. They are reconnaissance and rescue.
I don't remember PJ pipeline having a failure rate that high though its higher than the Navy SEALs pipeline. And I never heard before PJ going into sniper courses before as well.
Not true, and they are stationed all around the world at a variety of either rescue or special tactics squadrons. I think they have the most different bases you can be stationed at than any other special forces group, especially if you add in the guard and reserve components. PJs also do not go to sniper or reconnaissance courses. These guys are all about combat medicine and combat search and rescue as well as CSAR. Attrition rate is around 80% depending on the class. Hard to say real attrition rate now though, say 100-150 guys start A&S, and 40 get selected, the 40 could be PJ, SR, or CCT, and who knows how many started the class wanted what. Attrition rate def isn't like the SEALs where 200 guys start a class and like 10-15 originals graduate which is what's happened the last 3-5 years per class lol.
As a Retired Air Force Medic with advance critical care training , instructor, and CCAF career field degree. Tech school in the Air Force is a open head and pour system. I learn in 14 weeks what civilians learn in two years with a one second chance to retake a failed block.
I’ve worked with retirees who did roughly both. A corpsman who washed out of SEALS due to co,or blind, who after Corpsman school, ended up with Marine, SEAL, and shipboard assignments. A PJ from Vietnam era, and and one who retired mid 2000s, had to change MOS after his ear drums were blown out (never said how that happened). Owe some people with kind do, nothing is impossible attitudes. Only thing I can observe that the military is doing wrong by these folks is ensuring they have the civilian equivalent medical designations so they can pursue civilian medical employment after discharge. The Corpsman was clearly equal to an RN, Nurse Practitioner, or Physician Asst, but the civilian world was making him jump through needless hoops and expensive re-schooling simply because he didn’t have LPN, RN, Paramedic, or PA, after his name.
They both get paramedic qualifications but all those other designations rn, pa, etc have college degrees required so it’s not the military’s fault that they can’t go directly into the civilian equivalent but they will have an opportunity to get lots of the courses required while in if motivated enough without touching their GI bill funding.
Dang just enlised plan on using the OTS program to become an officer, then to into Pjs....tough stuff lol Never heard of Sarcs looks like there just as hard, Respect both braches cant wait to join the brotherhood
When i first got in i was lucky enough to be befriended by a retired SF CSM from 5th group. Vietnam Vet, 5 tours. His entire Army career was SOCOM. He was a civilian who worked in our building. He had his DA retirement photo on this desk. 3 silver stars. Nicest guy, just a straight up bad ass, quiet guy. Again lucky he befriended me. I asked him once who the best were. He responded "The PJs, cause when shit hits the fan and a guy is bleeding out, they'll save you. Get you get home to your family." Never heard of them until that day. Have always held my respect. He has since passed. RIP CSM George Moore.
DOE/NNSA transport security. We've talked about it but I just wanted to remind you. I know people don't request it but they will enjoy finding out about them. And maybe it could give a veteran a job opportunity.
Wassup general discharge! Another excellent vid, I'm hoping to enlist as a "35M Human intelligence collector", hope you and you're crew got time to crank a vid on that process for us, holler!
They are both badasses!!! If I’m severely hurt in a remote location, I would prefer either the PJ’s or SARC to care for, and rescue me. Outstanding Americans 🇺🇸
I’ve been out of the military since 2018 and I watch all these videos like I’m about to try out or something lol. But what’s worse is I was in the Army not the Marines or Air Force. I was stationed at Bragg in the 82nd Airborne Division but I still find all these videos of different Units fascinating nonetheless and will watch every single one of them lol.
love these videos it just makes me respect these warriors more and more but I was wondering I’m from Canada and would like to see a video of the Canadian Special forces and what they do as I kinda have a dream for jtf2 right now
@@dallasyap3064 Yea, at least in the Navy. I was a Corpsman with the Marines for 9 years. 23 Medals of Honor, 179 Navy Crosses for Corpsmen. There have been 6 Seals to receive the Medal of Honor. The reason Corpsmen are the most decorated is because they are in combat with every Marine unit, so by the numbers we have experienced more combat over the years, because there are always far more Marine units in a war than Seals. Seals were started in Vietnam, as well, whereas Corpsman have been in combat long before then, earning MoH in WWII and before.
I'm a civilian medical specialist from Malaysia specializing in lab hematology. If there were any options like these in Malaysia, I would have chosen them anyday over med. school. Medicine in the civilian side has gone down to money and defensive practice to save your own ass from lawsuits and finger-pointing. Feels like these guys are doing what every doctor should be doing in real life.... ....
There is a Royal Malaysian Air Force unit that is equivalent to the United States Air Force Pararescue Jumpers (PJs), the Combat Air Rescue Squadron (CARS) of the Pasukan Khas Udara (PASKAU). Or maybe u can join the Special Malaysia Disaster Assistance & Rescue Team (SMART), these guys are rescue specialists as well, but I'm not so sure on their medical capabilities. But to join SMART, u must first be in the Fire Service (Bomba), Police or military.
@@dallasyap3064 thanks. But it's too late for me at 34 y.o with a master's degree in lab hematology. These two specialty fields in medicine of pararescue and lab haematology are world's apart.
@@cloudstrife112 well I'm not very sure on the age limit for those units. But at least u are good at what u do right now. What's haematology? Never heard of this field before.
The only thing I would disagree with is that PJs are attached to SOF units because of their medicine. They are attached because of the RESCUE aspect first (roping, dive qual, etc), with the ability to perform paramedic level medicine for stabilizing during the extraction (some get further qualifications).
@@zebrajenks agree it is. Have no first hand experience but from very close friends they are studs at more than just medicine. In his words “we have to get to you first, and get you out second”.
Any Serviceman who starts off as a typical 68W in the Army, a Navy HM, a Coast Guard HST or an Air Force Medic, and then, decides to further pursue Military Medicine in an Special Operations Forces ( SOF) environment, has My Respect, because, He willingly chose to pursue a Career Path ,where, not only is the training and real world experience in Medicine and Military Forces Life is physically demanding, but also , mentally taxing, for He has to learn more on Health, Dentistry, Math and Science and Biology, and ,must stay on top of the technology with new TTPs, to treat wounded and killed off Fighters, both Friend and Foe, in Action and Active Combat Operations Downrange.🇺🇸💣💥
Great video! Can you please cover NCIS? Including its roles while assisting Navy Special Warfare as a counterintelligence support group, and its REACT team.
Been waiting for this one! I’d I could go back 30 years I would have loved to be a SARC! But I’m not a good swimmer and I’m afraid of heights! 😬. I never knew they were attached with DEVGRU. I heard one SARC say, SARC are shooters first that do awesome medicine. PG’s are rescue medical professionals who are awesome shooters.
Technically SARCs are recon first, cuz they are attached to Force Recons mostly who do more green operations than black operations. They only execute direct action if necessary and usually limited.
@@dallasyap3064 SARCs are with both Force and Division Recon, in fact of the three places you go as a SARC Force Recon has the fewest, because they are smaller than Recon Battalion (AKA Division Recon) and MEF level asset. Force is a company size unit. All Marine Raider teams have SARCs too, and function as part of the team. Every 5-man tactical element of the MSOT has a SARC and they shoot and move like a CSO. Our MARSOC attachment when I was in Afghanistan got some on the regular. Also Marine Recon units deployed in our AO did more direct action that green ops, because that was the nature of the mission there.
@@dallasyap3064 time and overlap, really. ITC takes Marines from line units as well as Recon, so covers a lot of the same skills that the recon pipeline does. Since SARCs have gone through a lot of that, it's enough to be able to shoot and move with the team, and between going to a team and deployment, training workups are in depth enough that they'll cover the gap. You could argue that recon marines could do the same, and they did in the early days, but with CSO being an actual MOS they need to go through the course. Plus most recon marines haven't gone through the full pipeline like SARCs, each platoon will have jump and dive teams and most e-5 and below will have only gone through one, whereas the SARC goes through all of them.
@@esteebo each platoon will have jump and dive teams. U are referring to Division Recons right? Cuz I remember Force Recons need to be both jump and dive qualified.
It's common sense when you combine the strength of each of these special Operation type units you end up with a moving package that is almost completely effective, you know bringing the whole thing! And those that I know that have operated on missions that involve multi-service components always have high reviews of each other, so common sense that is the lethal package, I was a boom operator in the Air Force and our squadron next door to afsoc and we supported them on real world sorties often, great group of guys super professional, and ridiculously good at what they do, I'll leave it at that. 🤘🇺🇲
I originally had a sarc contract before medical complications causing me to drop from the navy. They test you on your PST at a school a couple weeks in. You will be out of shape for Sarcs do not go through 800 divs in boot. So be prepared as much as you can going into boot because you will not have time after. As well the HM-ATF contract for SARCS RELYS HEAVILY ON PST SCORES. With that being said you will be competing against other candidates to be SARC. If you don’t make the cut you will either be a DMT OR SAR. Make sure your grades are top notch too. Just some tips I’ve learned before I started my pipeline that friends who went through and failed told me.
FYI Not all PJs will be assigned to SOF though, my brother in law was a PJ and he said he never once came into contact with a SOF unit during his time in the military
Just like some SARCS are assigned to Force Recon. Which is NOT a SOCOM unit. BOTH SARCS and PJs are trained to the standard and can move laterally in to their respected services SOCOM units.
The question of my life. Prior marine 0311 finishing up my Bachelor’s in nursing. I’ve debated these two with 18D to use my nursing degree with but maintain SOF experience.
Dude, go 18D. Unfortunately, MARSOC, while under SOCOM, has too many issues plagued by the incompetent leadership that plagues all of the Corps. If you research you will see how many people don’t stay long in MARsoc unlike SF.
@@Lifechanging99999 I appreciate that. I’m very familiar with how the corps is fucked. I just want to be a medic where I am actually in the shit with the guys and I’m still using my nursing school knowledge. So when I get out, I can still become a nurse
Go 18D or get a 68W Option 40. It has more built in safety nets if you don't make it to those units as the Army will put you in the Infantry as a medic. Alot guys that fail the SARC route still end up blue side rather than green. Failing the PJ route also gets you absolutely nothing which out of the units we are discussing is physically the hardest to pass. Lastly check out USAF SOST very special job but good place to be if you're a Nurse that wants to work SOF.
@@julianvalles7154 I would go SARC if I was you. I was an HM, and I did the last 7 years of my 10 on active duty with the Corps. You already know how the Corps runs. Further, being "Doc" has it's perks and you also probably know. Further, if you want to go NP you'll be closer to that with SARC because they are trained to nearly PA level. You will also get more with hyperbaric medicine which you probably know is used to treat more and more head trauma and in wound clinics. You'll be more marketable when you combine your RN skills with those of a SARC. The Navy has a Nurse Corps as well.
SEAL medics get the same qualifications as green berets (18D course), and rangers only go through SOCM, SARCs go through 18D as well but they take a break between SOCM and 18D with other courses/ a deployment first I think,, PJs have their own medical training school where they get their paramedic certification (they used to go to 18D).
Special Forces Medical Sergeants course has 2 phases of training. First they will attend the SOCM, which all special operations medics attend. After this course, SFMS will continue to attend their own specific 18d course to get more trainings and medical skills in different areas as well as long term care.
Where was all this back in 1966? I was drafted by, US Army, 3-wks after grad from H.S. I had my "ARC Adv First Aid and ARC WSI Cards". So I attended Army Medical Training; (91A-10, 91B-20). Then was assigned to Operating Room Specialist School (91D-20). After completion they assigned me to their First Assistant Program, (91D-2FA). I was able to assist the Surgeon in the Operating Proced's. I was sent to Vietnam, 1967-1969. My last tour of duty was with 159th DUST-OFF and I was Hooked. If I wasn't DEROS'D, for my DD-214 I would have re-enlisted. Thank you for your presentation. Eventhough it makes me feel like a "Slacker", with my training?
I thought that pjs could be stationed in Alaska, because I read a book about someone becoming a pj and he was in Alaska, doing search and rescue missions up there
@@codymar4515 I have seen all of the Ones Ready videos and they are super informative but General Discharge has a great format for this and everything is succinct.
@@RealBREAKtheArtist that is very true. I actually don't even watch them, I listen to them on Spotify, so I guess I hear it differently than I would see them.
Some added info, though often seen as just a medical specialty, they exist as a combat multipliers. Though their existence is specific itmakes them useful not only in medical situations but also useful for general health concerns (everything from athletes foot ingrown nails saddle sores/burn and infections) diplomatic situations, detaiees or enemy combatants often need first aide as well. They are an essential multifaceted resource.
