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Navy SEAL Reacts To "SEAL Training Has Become Too Harsh" 

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Andy Stumpf and Chris Williamson discuss if Military training has become too tough for the average person to qualify. Should Military training be tougher or easier for people according to Andy Stumpf? What makes Navy SEAL training so difficult in the first place? Why does Andy Stumpf think Navy SEAL training should be harder?
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@ChrisWillx
@ChrisWillx Год назад
Hello you beauties. Watch the full episode here - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QUGE12040DQ.html
@TriAngles3D
@TriAngles3D Год назад
Fairness for the sake of being fair impairs both the weak and the strong. Fairness artificially pulls the incompetent UP to a norm despite having insufficient ability. Fairness artificially pulls the competent DOWN to that same norm despite having proved greater ability. And, that is unfair.
@The.world.has.gone.crazy...
@Chris, no offence butt did you keep the moustache, beard and glasses for pride month? 🤣
@zacfonseca857
@zacfonseca857 Год назад
@@TriAngles3D Agree!
@Openmindallthetime143
@Openmindallthetime143 Год назад
At the end where u say press here their was nothing to press homie
@Openmindallthetime143
@Openmindallthetime143 Год назад
@@The.world.has.gone.crazy... ​​⁠ leave the mustache ride alone lol he looks fine (for others not for me lol) to me he just looks like a guy . To me everyone looks like where’s waldo ….found him!
@dard4642
@dard4642 Год назад
I was a HS dropout, unskilled worker, newly recovering addict who was perpetually 10 days away from eviction. I knew that i was more than what i was doing but i didnt know where or how to start getting my life together. I joined the military because I NEEDED my ass kicked. I NEEDED structure in an environment where others where counting on my to be solid. Best decision I've ever made.
@harrykrumpacker871
@harrykrumpacker871 Год назад
Same here. Sometimes it's a tough row to hoe, but definitely the best 2 decisions I ever made. One was to join (12/77) and the other to leave (10/05). Unless you're in spec-ops (or equivalent), no place to be nowadays...
@MachineGunPepe
@MachineGunPepe Год назад
If Andy has his way and people like him you wouldn't have been able to join at all. He's saying to raise the standards above people like you. Not sure you caught that.
@dard4642
@dard4642 Год назад
@@MachineGunPepe that's not what I took from what he said. I joined because it was going to be difficult and the standards of difficulty shouldn't be lowered.
@yungphame
@yungphame Год назад
@@dard4642 He's also talking about general requirements for eligibility that's why @jwong12 and I are sure if he had his way, recovering drug addicts, hs dropouts like you were, would not have been given an opportunity or allowed to enlist.
@User_yhvz
@User_yhvz Год назад
Yeah I need my ass kicked too but my girlfriend won’t do it lmao and our military would just hug me and tell me everything is ok. Bar fight? Maybe.
@mikedag1176
@mikedag1176 Год назад
Richard Marcinko former SEAL team 6 Commander once said "The more you sweat in training the less you bleed and in combat"...I believe he was absolutely right.
@ZacksRockingLifestyle
@ZacksRockingLifestyle Год назад
I’ve never been to war, but I deeply believe the time and effort I spent training in martial arts is what saved my life when I found myself being violently carjacked, so I also would say I believe in that quote.
@lukechamblin1372
@lukechamblin1372 Год назад
It’s a spartan quote I believe
@michaelross1943
@michaelross1943 Год назад
Marcinko did not say that! Demo Dick and his books are pretty much garbage. Unless you are in the Marcinko cult.
@Smilez-m1s
@Smilez-m1s Год назад
America has fallen due to slogans and racism. Slogans like " God bless America", like God is exclusively ours.🤔
@mikedag1176
@mikedag1176 Год назад
@@Smilez-m1s America is being judged because we've all allowed the professionals to fuck us six ways to hell!!
@scottyg5403
@scottyg5403 Год назад
I joined the Navy in the late 70s. I was overweight and I'm not sure whether or not I would get in nowadays but by the end of my enlistment I lost over 50 lbs and I still workout to this day! Thank you Uncle Sam!
@FJ24.
@FJ24. Год назад
They have a thing called fat camp in the army for recruits before they go to basic you’d probably get in
@mr.chilll5179
@mr.chilll5179 Год назад
David goggins?
@scottyg5403
@scottyg5403 Год назад
@@mr.chilll5179 No but I am a huge Goggins fan!
@mr.chilll5179
@mr.chilll5179 Год назад
@@scottyg5403 who isn't 😊
@crustybomb115
@crustybomb115 Год назад
@@mr.chilll5179 people who dont know about him id assume...
@alphacause
@alphacause Год назад
“The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal.” -source unknown
@jaymann5180
@jaymann5180 Год назад
"Yah, that quote is fake." Joe Rogan
@upsetforever7643
@upsetforever7643 Год назад
"I have become death the destroyer of worlds" - Gandhi
@CH-tv1cy
@CH-tv1cy Год назад
​@@jaymann5180"not anymore its not" - jesus
@dr.badass702
@dr.badass702 Год назад
“Be sure to double-check the veracity of quotes before posting them online” - Lao Tzu
@concilium1
@concilium1 Год назад
“ There is all the difference in the world between treating people equally and attempting to make them equal. While the first is the condition of a free society, the second means as De Tocqueville describes it, a new form of servitude.” Friedrich Hayek, Individualism and Economic Order
@tomdolan7752
@tomdolan7752 Год назад
The problem with the seal community now is not training difficulty but rather bad ethics, bad leadership, drug use, a lack of character, and a deeply problematic emphasis on publicity. There's no reason that the seals should be better known than the army's delta force or the air force special tactics groups. They do the same missions, have equally difficult selection and standards, etc. But the army and the air force units are better disciplined and their culture is one of quiet professionalism. And unlike the seals their members are not focused on monetizing their service the second they get out.
@joshualittle877
@joshualittle877 Год назад
Wow what a bunch of horseshit. Sorry had to get that out. Have you ever served in the Teams? Yeh I thought not as out of a country of 330 million and a military of 2.2 million there are only about 2,500 SEALs currently serving and maybe 8000 who have ever existed. I also was not a SEAL but I was a LRS Scout( the Armys equivalant to Force Recon except for Force does Direct Action in addition to Recon and Surveillance where LRS just does Recon and Surveillance and the occasional Sniper mission but they avoid gun fights. I also spent 4 years with Special Forces but was not a Green Beret but was assigned with two ODAs in Afghsnistan in a Support Role and was part of the Support Company. US Special Forces Command( USSFC).has 20,937 people in it only 5,000 are Green Berets. My point is I though I wasnt a SEAL or Green Beret I was a Special Fiorces Candiate/ Trainee who got the opportunity to choose between deploying and going to the QCourse when I got back or staying at Bragg instead of deploying and I chose to go down range( this was just after 911 in 2002.) So I have worked alongside b all the guys you just mentioned I did missions alongside SF and SEALs and Airforce Special Ops. Delta was across the street from us and we didnt work with them much but we had former DBoys on our teams. We also had former Recon and SEALs who were now SF Soldiers. My best friend was with SWCC before coming to LRS and SF with me. All of my best friends and family are either Recon Marines, SF or work in the IC. So while Im not one of these guys they treat me like family to which I will feel forever honored. Because of my service in SF I can wear an SF Combat Patch along with my CIB and Airborne Wings and I wear them with pride. I never got the chance to get qualified because I got wounded in combat and medivaced ( Shot, Blown up by an IED and later got stage 4 Cancer)on my third deployment. I also was later a PMC Cotractor and DDM Counter Sniper so I was trained by guys like Andy and Shawn Ryan( though not them specifically)The point here is while I wont claim to be an expert I at least have a basis for my knowlege on the topic. Im not some outsider I did 15 years all together around this Community and a few more as a Contractor.If you didnt you probably should consider that your talking out your ass(news flash you are talking out your fourth point of contact) and anyone whos been arround this community fot 5 seconds will spot it so maybe just shut up and listen instead of running your suck.( always a good idea). I would not even have said a damn thing to you but you got A. Insulting to some of the finest Americans walking the planet and B. You dont know what the f**k your talking about and are spouting bullshit and I feel obligated to call you out on it. To be clear this is America and more importantly the internet you can have what ever opinion you choose and say what ever you want. I fought and gave my health and youth so you could continue to talk shit and so did they. Just dont expect when your wrong someone wont call you out because they probably will. Today thats me. I mean it only as eduction and despite my choice of language there is no ill will here. Now first, no they dont all have the same job they all have very different missions that none the less intersect and overlap but they have different jobs different training(,though they have some common skillsets) and different orgsnizational culture. SEALs and Rangers are Dirctect Action Shock Troops( Commandos) SEALs are Naval Commandos. Making there job maybe a bit more technical but the Rangers are catching up in that catigory. At the end of the day their job is to kick down doors and shoot bad guys in the face. A common question for new guys is " ever been in a fist fight or when was the last time"? This is a big red flag you about to get your ass beat. because being able to do exteme levels of violence on our nstions behalf to protect it is whats necissary for the job. After getting wounded and being assigned to work as an Intel Analyst and PERSEC Admin in at the 173rd Airborne Brigade inn Vicenza Italy I had a young PFC who just left Ranger Regiment that worked for me and he decribed this to me but I had also seen it many times my self( and had it happen to me) Reguardless of passing selection when you show up as an unkown and untested entity the team has to know you arent going to get squeamish. Its very much like the Spartan Agoge. in a sense. SEALs and Rangers are recruited young..For BUDS you must be between 18-28. There are rare waivers to 30 but very rare and are usually only granted for guys coming from other elite units. Most guys in BUDS and RASP are straight out of Basic Training or new LTs straight out of College. So not only do they not have a culture of quiet professionals no one expects them to be. They are loud, rude, drink alot, fight at the drop of a hat etc. If you ever see Navy SEAL and Ranger Belgain Malinois K9s they have the exact same mentality as their handlers. They have to grow into quiet professionals so by the time the few that get to Devgru get there they are a bit more desceet but still a bit of a pitbull on a leash. The problem is that its not a job that is coducive to longevity. During the Vietnam Conflict only 276 SEALs went to Vietnam and 46 of them died there and another 40 retired. This means there are not a large ammount of older matured SEALs and they are constatly being replaced with new young guys and as the Rangers are larger this is true there to. The guys who do mature into "Quiet Professionals" wind up going to work Devgru, Delta and maybe the Agency. Lets look at Marcus Lutrell one of the more well known SEALs. His career. was all of 6 years and because he was a Medic almost two years of that was spent training to be a SEAL and his entire platoon died. Not just the three guys on his Special Recon Team but the 15 guys that came to rescue him as well. Each of those guys including LCDR Kristensen their commander and LT Murphy all had joined around the same time. LCDR Jocco Willink, Chris Kyle, Eddie Ghallager, Rob Oniel and David Goggins are all guys with 20.year careers but they are the exceotion not the rule. Green Berets on the other hand are not door kicking Commados. Their job is to go to other countries where the US is maybe going to fight and organize resistance and guerrilla armies to fight with and for us. They also do Foreign Internal Defense where they train our Military Allies official armies. SF Soldiers on ODAs are all NCOs between E5-E8. Unlike a Ranger or SEAL Platoon there are no Junior enlisted except for the occasional attached support guy or student like myself and most of those guys are just waiting to be promoted. They are certainly capable of doing DA doorkicking missions but its not their specialty or culture. The guys in SF who do specialize in that stuff in what used to be called CIF Teams are the most senior and experienced guys in the SF Group because in Terms of Skill they are just south.of Delta and some may be former Delta guys. SF Culure is where the whole quiet professional.thing came from and its simply because its a different job Rangers and SEALs work unilaterally as a Platoon doing missions where they are caturing or killing High Value Targets, Performing Direct Action Raids, Airfield Siezures, blowing shit up doing Boarding Search and Siezure etc. In Special Forces they focus on Unconventional.Warfare and do it in a very specific way. Each pair of NCOs on an ODA will act as a Company Commander and XO for a group of 100 guerilla fighters. They recruit train and lead them. This requires a much higher level of maturity and descetion. I watched a podcast yesterday with a guy from CIAs SAD/SOG that started as a Recon Marnie, became a Green Beret and then wound up in the Agency and he described very accurately that the shit that is second nature on the SEAL Teams will get you booted off an ODA. As a result of being quiet professionals they also get a much wider lattitude becsuse they have proven they can be descreet. This is why Devgru and Delta guys bump heads alot even though they work together. Its because of their units cultural differences and the fact Delta guys have a culture of keeping shit low key SF was founded in 1952 and was an outgrowth of PSYOPS and SEALs.didnt come along till 62 and by the end of Vietnam when there had only been two teams as opposed to the ten they have now 46 had died and a bunch more retired in the following yrs so while SF was very active the SEALs had to spend alot of time reconstituting and building their numbers as well as refining their doctrine for the future. So between 72-82 they hadnt done alot. When SEAL Team Six jumped into the waters off Geneda in 1983 they were only two and a half years old and like Deltas first mission a few years earlier in 1980 it was a disaster. The Airforce Special Ops Community mainly provides support to all the other units in USSOCOM and also conventional.units. PJs provide Combat Search and Rescue Service to Air Combat Command in rescuing downed pilots as well as CSAR for other special ops units. If you ever saw Blackhawk Down they dont say it in the film but the guys who came in and extracted the pilots from the Blackhawks and treated them inside the downed aircraft were PJs. CCTs are battlefield FAA Cetritified Air Traffic Controllers they coordinate Arial invasions from the ground. TACPs guide bombs onto targets and direct close airsupport. Airforce Special Ops pipeline is so long that candidates have to sign a six year contract to get in. They are often formerly from other Special Ops units that along with AF culture leads to alot more seasoned and matured operator.
@supertroll9459
@supertroll9459 Год назад
Nailed it.
@kendrickmclain
@kendrickmclain Год назад
@@joshualittle877thank you for this, it gave me an extended amount of clarity, you touched on a topic I’ve been seeking out for months when it comes to the caliber of Individuals and atmosphere would be right for me. And your explanation helped me out the most.
@patrickphelan3676
@patrickphelan3676 Год назад
When I joined, it was 70% exclusion just from initial testing. Another 70% exclusion for trade specific testing after that. Then 30% fail rate during basic training; then 30% fail rate for initial trade training; and finally 10% fail rate for trade qualification training. It's NOT a Country Club.
@DimitriTheBarbarian
@DimitriTheBarbarian Год назад
Like they said 80% of people in America are overweight. That would and should disqualify 80% of people from the start
@LK-bz9sk
@LK-bz9sk Год назад
Yup. Your end product is a person who can be a war fighter. The most brutal, demanding and unforgiving activity on earth. Thx for your service.
@carolineprenoveau7655
@carolineprenoveau7655 Год назад
I agree. We should always hire the most competent people for a job, and especially in the military. Of course, humans are imperfect, and sometimes will have biases of many kinds, but the striving towards having objective and relevant criteria for a job is still much better than voluntarily using the wrong criteria.
@zeorhymer6
@zeorhymer6 Год назад
This is the same way how education hit rock bottom. Used to be the best and the brightest. Now even kids who haven’t past grade school can get a college degree. People just keep lowering and lowering the bar until it hits the floor.
@snowbear163
@snowbear163 Год назад
That's because back in 1975 you could get a job making the 2023 equivalent of $27/hour with a high school education. Now companies are demanding university education for $15/hour jobs. The companies are requiring it so the population is responding so they can get jobs. Talk to Wall Street. Tell them to make their standards of entry level jobs more realistic.
@BrandonHeat243
@BrandonHeat243 Год назад
@@snowbear163 That's just a lie bro. You do not need a university education for a $15 an hour job.
@sundae7317
@sundae7317 Год назад
passed*
@timotejlovrec9029
@timotejlovrec9029 Год назад
i think this is great, now people who actually have ambitions and are good at any craft get to use their talent and hard work to earn money, instead of everyone going to college sitting there for 3 years doing nothing to get high paying job
@snowbear163
@snowbear163 Год назад
@@BrandonHeat243 there are loads of jobs that pay $15/hr and require a university degree.
@tidepride86
@tidepride86 Год назад
*DIVERSITY ISN'T OUR STRENGTH MERITOCRACY IS OUR STRENGTH*
@jeremyg591
@jeremyg591 Год назад
Studies have shown diversity reduced trust in communities and reduced union rates in work environments. Basically no one trusts anyone and cohesive social structure falls apart
@gregdaugherty6065
@gregdaugherty6065 Год назад
Meritocracy means “rule by merit.” A free people are not ruled. Neither diversity nonsense nor meritocracy are the answer. The answer is to return to individualism and limited government tightly constrained to the singular purpose of protecting liberty.
@stephenbermingham6554
@stephenbermingham6554 Год назад
​@gregdaugherty6065 100%
@tidepride86
@tidepride86 Год назад
@@gregdaugherty6065 okay that's interesting. "Most qualified person for the job" is all I'm saying. That's the mindset that seems to have gone missing in so many Americans. Thanks for the info on the definition
@juliosantana1646
@juliosantana1646 Год назад
@@tidepride86 “most qualified” is subjective. Also, the “most qualified” doesn’t equate to best candidate. That’s why we have interviews and don’t just hire people based off of résumé.
@bigfish1026
@bigfish1026 Год назад
Nothing like the "When your covered in your friend's brain analogy".
@craigland8632
@craigland8632 Год назад
Andy, Shawn, Marcus, and Rob are some of the greatest heroes we have had for OUR country. There are dozens and dozens of wonderful navy SEALS, and I'm great full for all of them! I hope you warriors never stop! It takes a certain breed!
@BlahKDubstep
@BlahKDubstep Год назад
Jocko*
@brandonmiller7122
@brandonmiller7122 Год назад
As an ex police officer I remember when I first joined our SWAT team. I was so pumped, joining the exclusive elite team on our department. Wow, how I was wrong. We had multiple guys that had been on the team for a long time that should not have been on the team anymore. A lot of the guys were out of shape. Some guys on the department could not even wear their bullet proof vests anymore due to their belly being so big. I tried to establish a yearly test for our department that was basically just the entrance exam standards for the academy to try and keep most of the guys in decent shape. If they pass that test, they get some type of bonus. Nope, shot down immediately. I also tried to implement an obstacle course test including shooting for entrance onto the SWAT team, kind of in hopes to push some of the guys out. Yep, same thing. That was shot down because half the team would fail and then the department would be responsible for explain why our "elite team" is not elite and what they would do about it. It was disappointing to say the least.
@kim-jong-poon
@kim-jong-poon Год назад
Saw a news story last night about how runway accidents at US airports are up over the last year because the airlines are prioritizing diversity over merit for air traffic controllers. One of the examples given was a about a female air traffic controller that was new who got overwhelmed one day and she just broke down, started crying then got up and just walked away from her station.... But hey, who cares if people's lives are on the line so long as the airlines can keep their ESG scores up right?
@mikemontgomery2654
@mikemontgomery2654 Год назад
First of all, that’s not on the airlines, that’s on the FAA (government). Second, going on our little Covid vacation has now made reality rear it’s head, again. All of the experienced controllers got put onto early retirement, leaving a giant experience vacuum for air traffic controllers, with no immediate replacement for them once the industry recovered. Everywhere around the US ATC centres are having their problems with staffing, at any given time. That’s not to say they don’t need to dismiss ESG scoring from their criteria but, that won’t happen as long as Biden remains president.
@markwhite6782
@markwhite6782 Год назад
@@mikemontgomery2654 Damn, what a well written post. As a conservative fed working for a 3 letter government agency I will tell you you are spot on sir. Not that it matters but we still have about 1/4 of our people that have not been back to work since 3/18/20. It's absurd, wrong and no different than theft.
@mikemontgomery2654
@mikemontgomery2654 Год назад
@@markwhite6782 Thank you. Your last sentence is also on point.
@manhalen7046
@manhalen7046 Год назад
I dont disagree with the premise of what you're trying to say but if the story you just mentioned actually occurred, it is impossible due to the checks and balances of the ATC system for someone to cause an accident by walking away from their station. You dont think a controller has ever just gotten up and run off because they were vomiting or had diahrea or etc etc etc? Cmon man. Theres also the fact that your name is king jong poon.
@wizzardofpaws2420
@wizzardofpaws2420 Год назад
I'm glad I quit flying.
@mattnelson8325
@mattnelson8325 Год назад
Awesome perspective. I want the tip of our ( USA) spear razor f-ing sharp. Thank you
@kodirhizor2157
@kodirhizor2157 Год назад
The most surprising thing I found during my time in the Army before I was medically discharged, I never met someone who joined because they wanted to since they were a kid like I did. Most people joined for a benefit one way or another.
@wisdomsdoorstep
@wisdomsdoorstep Год назад
CS gas felt like I was drowning in the little bunker. I really thought I was dying. But then when we were hit at FTX, it was so much easier to deal with because it was an the open. That provided confidence to keep moving forward and through it.
@soronos8586
@soronos8586 Год назад
The standard must be maintained.
@frankieramos8017
@frankieramos8017 Год назад
how about you join
@soronos8586
@soronos8586 Год назад
@@frankieramos8017 Ramos you have a strong turd vibe. How about you drop?
@alphacause
@alphacause Год назад
If by "inclusive" society means excluding those who have merit, how is that inclusive?
@debrawucik826
@debrawucik826 Год назад
Very good tutorial on one aspect of the importance of rigorous training for Seals.
@larryapl
@larryapl Год назад
We had to sing the Marine Corps Hymn. It was hysterical twice a year.😂
@larryapl
@larryapl Год назад
@@dejuren1367 In the gas chamber ff
@tyw2675
@tyw2675 Год назад
My only real issue with recruiting for the military right now is that they actually go way overboard with the whole medical screening now. Like they will disqualify people for minute bullshit that has no effect on the quality of the candidate. Everyone who has joined knows that basically we all had to lie about having ever had a cold in our childhood to join, and back in my time, they didn’t and couldn’t check medical records.
@paulm5441
@paulm5441 Год назад
In the view of this rainbow apocalypse they try however they can to keep the military going. God forbid you reject a delicate flower on the reason of being a delicate flower. At least reject him/they/zing/ping/ding on reasons of physical health if mental illnesses have now to be respected.
@leonardmilcin7798
@leonardmilcin7798 Год назад
Assuming there is more potential candidates than the need to recruit, you want to screen the recruits before you put them through extremely expensive training just to find they have a medical problem that will make the entire investment go to waste. So this absolutely makes sense IMO. 80 years ago you just needed to carry a bunch of stuff on you and point a rifle on a target. Nowadays you need to learn a bunch of complicated technology and procedures and this makes the training orders of magnitude more expensive.
@stretch1807
@stretch1807 Год назад
That's exactly Chris's point. And somehow this has turned into a woke discussion. Wtf mate. People should be screened by whether or not they can listen to someone speaking to them. If they pass the medicals, great. But if they can't listen, who gives a fuck how medically sound they are?
@DimitriTheBarbarian
@DimitriTheBarbarian Год назад
BS. Go to any gym and 90% of people will qualify. Go to any all-you-can-eat buffet and 90% of people will not. Choose your priorities and stop complaining
@TheSpecialJ11
@TheSpecialJ11 Год назад
Yeah, your average GI doesn't need to have perfect health, especially since very few even see much combat right now. I get being crazy stringent with specialized regiments and companies, but an 11B can have glaucoma just fine I think.
@mikeglynn5824
@mikeglynn5824 Год назад
Always a pleasure listening to Andy was 1st exposed to him on Rogan. Highly intelligent and great storyteller! Best to you Andy!
@supreme_zeeyus
@supreme_zeeyus Год назад
That moustache man, I’m not one to judge peoples choices but I don’t think it’s the best look
@sprezzatura8755
@sprezzatura8755 Год назад
Agree he looks like one of the Village People. Chris a good-looking fellow...does not need a gimmick.
@CONEHEADDK
@CONEHEADDK Год назад
@@sprezzatura8755 But shaving takes time - it zukz..
@RichWitGame
@RichWitGame Год назад
We need to start with standards for our politicians. Why should soldiers have to risk their lives following orders handed down from cowards, criminals, and idiots?
@snowbear163
@snowbear163 Год назад
Well we did that a long time ago when only white males who owned land could run for office. We also tried literacy tests. I think we all know the result. Only a small handful of people want to turn the clock back to 1830.
@jackpopa729
@jackpopa729 Год назад
Agreed. People should not be putting their lives at risk for those who are using them as a chess piece in the greater game of corruption and influence.
@DimitriTheBarbarian
@DimitriTheBarbarian Год назад
We do have standards. It’s call system of checks and balances. Get to classroom, learn about Western way of life and political system
@RichWitGame
@RichWitGame Год назад
@@DimitriTheBarbarian I mean standards for individuals that hold office. Checks and balances don't work if those doing the checking and balancing are colluding, corrupt and/or incompetent? ..And I think I know more than enough about this way of life and it's systems. I've been meeting and surpassing the standards of service for more than a decade.
@DimitriTheBarbarian
@DimitriTheBarbarian Год назад
@@RichWitGame you only can do so much against human nature. We set up system of checks and balances but we also have flaws (it’s called being human). The only alternative is dictatorship which is much worse
@philr182
@philr182 Год назад
I still remember the song we had to sing being exposed in boot camp - Lucille by Kenny Rogers, while holding our gas masks above our heads. They told us, at least 20 times - DO NOT TOUCH YOUR FACE! Of course there's always that one guy who touches their face (wasn't me...).
@CrunchyNorbert
@CrunchyNorbert Год назад
the standards are correct, it is worrying how few people meet those standards
@vernss3092
@vernss3092 Год назад
Given the demands placed upon seals, I would hope they are put through very rigorous training and screening. Only the most fit should make it.
@joeskewes9618
@joeskewes9618 Год назад
They reject you now but when they want to draft you all that stuff all of a sudden doesn’t count against you lmao😂
@Account-ez9px
@Account-ez9px Год назад
As if every member of a conscript army in ww3 is gonna be a navy seal 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@JR-ju3kj
@JR-ju3kj Год назад
A draft and the idea of mandatory military service is an entirely separate subject from what they're talking about. Standards go out the window when people start getting drafted. It was seen in World War II, it was seen in Vietnam and you see it in SOME countries today where military service is mandatory.
@zaynes5094
@zaynes5094 Год назад
@@JR-ju3kj A lot think it should be mandatory in the U.S. as well and while I wouldn't be afraid to do it, since I've already thought long and hard about USAF Para Rescue, it shouldn't ever be forced or 'mandatory'. The reason SK and other smaller countries have mandatory service is because they have much smaller armies and military. That's the real reason why. We, the U.S., still have a decent number of enlisted in all branches.
@thomasgerace4354
@thomasgerace4354 Год назад
I don't know if the training as become too harsh...but men being left unattended to die in their barracks after completing the training (google that if your not familiar)...that's a problem.
@gen3kali877
@gen3kali877 Год назад
What Andy is saying about more exclusive in military recruitment is fine in the low intensity conflicts we’ve had compared to World War II. We will have an insurmountable problem in the next near peer conflict if seventy-six percent of the population is excluded due to weight and medical conditions. This doesn’t mean lowering the standards for the military but raising the physical condition standards of society by reintroducing physical education as a daily part of our educational system.
@notafanboytotally4627
@notafanboytotally4627 Год назад
As a teen that greatly Desires to serve in the role of a Navy SEAL, I agree.
@graylobo133
@graylobo133 Год назад
I give this guy props for not going with the douchy sleeve tats that has become the trend with most of these guys and the wanabes.
@Joefest99
@Joefest99 Год назад
Chris is bringing back the Mike Mentzer look. 👍
@asajayunknown6290
@asajayunknown6290 Год назад
I like his view on the exclusivity of the military. The problem is that they'll have significantly reduce the size of the military simply because you can't get people that qualify. The MIC would rather have cannon fodder.
@fstlnj29
@fstlnj29 Год назад
Years back, I knew a guy who was a pilot for one on the majors. Nice guy but I always thought of him as a putz. One day while doing some work for him he invited me into his study. There on the wall was the Top Gun trophy along with an awesome picture of him going vertical taken so close you could recognize his face in the cockpit. I mentioned to him how surprised I was. He calmly looked at me and said, "it's not like in the movies, there is little room for mistakes as when I go to work, the other guys dies". I have never forgot that and as such I have tremendous respect for those at the tip of the spear!
@ronmoore6598
@ronmoore6598 Год назад
The new look with the stache and glasses looks great!
@wayentruoc
@wayentruoc Год назад
Opportunity should be diverse. Everyone should have a chance prove themselves. Success is earned.
@deardeer5215
@deardeer5215 Год назад
I was just in the Army National Guard for six years, I was infantry but still, just a basic grunt and we got cs gassed every year, most of the combat role military gets gassed regularly, if you can't do it in practice how are you gonna perform when you are being shot at. It is absolutely necessary.
@greigthomson7878
@greigthomson7878 Год назад
Chris, you should get DJ Shipley on the podcast! He’s former Devgru and I could listen to him all day especially when he talks about mental health. He’d be great for the podcast.
@aw8one
@aw8one Год назад
It’s crazy the seals got heat for something they used to do in boot camp.
@Mike37551
@Mike37551 Год назад
Even thinking about it in terms of whether it’s “too difficult” is way off the mark. Feed 1000 people into the start of a training pipeline. If you want to get to the top 5, top 50, or top 500 you do so by implementing differing levels of difficulty.
@sanghoonlee5171
@sanghoonlee5171 Год назад
There are certain jobs that shouldn't allow any hiring criteria other than the candidate's competence. Military special force is right at the top of that list.
@macariorodriguez630
@macariorodriguez630 Год назад
I wanted to join the military since being a child but after being diagnosed with mental conditions that require regular medication I am deemed unfit. As much I want to serve I'd only get people hurt. There are other ways to serve your country. Don't make them change standards on this. It's beyond how hurt it makes you feel.
@FBIforreal152
@FBIforreal152 Год назад
"Headed" down the wrong path? No, we are waaaayy down the wrong path.
@leonardmilcin7798
@leonardmilcin7798 Год назад
Most men today are so unfit physically that they would be ridiculed a hundred years ago. I am making 25 thousand steps daily and maybe running 5-15 kilometers every other day and at the age of 41 this somehow puts me in 5% of fittest males in my age bracket? This is craaazy...
@cslantz4020
@cslantz4020 Год назад
weird way to flex. you can't go off by saying men are strictly responsible for their physicality; when human beings living in an artificial consumer based society that prioritizes comfort and safety over strength and resilience. thats why men are weak, thats why women are entitled and crazy; because the society isnt exactly a society, because to say its a society would mean that there is a wholeness and community to the people being described, and that people care for each other and work for each other, which is not at all whats happening here, instead its a bunch of people surviving by themselves, loosely connected to their distant and ambigious neighbours, within the monumental system that has us imprisoned here working for the monopolized corporate system that we all are stuck relying upon. we live in a world that constantly shoves ads down your throat and feeds you absolute trash. there is no independence and responsibility there is only victims of an enormous system that has no mercy. now if people got together, and tried to create something outside of this prison of a system, that would pose a threat to the authority that has current control over us. if we were an actual society, we would live as one big family, rather then a bunch of isolated tiny families all loosely connected only because of their reliance and enslavement by the current environment we live in.
@leonardmilcin7798
@leonardmilcin7798 Год назад
@@cslantz4020 That somebody would say that doing 25k steps a day and running every other day is "flexing" is exactly my point. It is not flexing, it should be minimum of what is expected from a male my age. Social norms are changing but health is immutable, separate from society and culture. Humans are not built to be sedentary, hunched over shining rectangles and putting highly processed food into our stomachs all day. And this is objective truth regardless of what the societal norms are at the moment.
@cslantz4020
@cslantz4020 Год назад
@@leonardmilcin7798 health is apart of culture, as much as you want to virtue signal in a period of your life where you are taking advantage of opportunities to have a healthy life style, most people are stuck in this system that berates them for not "trying hard enough" ignoring personal circumstance and the hard truthes about an unequal system. i get the feeling you are the kind of guy that likes to tell people to "just do it", in the sense that you expect others to have an extreme motivation towards things you find as individual responsibility, correct me if im wrong of course, but i am not talking about societal norms, you seemed to misunderstand me. I am talking about how this Western world we live in is highly artifical and not communable. and that to blame people for not living to your expectations is a result of selfish blindness and the inability to empathize and see other peoples perspectives. Not everyone is able to be extreme in their health, because this system pushes a different priority, which is to work a job that takes up the majority of your time, and then to spend the rest of your free time focusing on healthy choices, which is infact a naive outlook, and not the truth. In reality people instead look to comfort because we are suffocated in it. Look around, theres Mcdonalds ads, Uber eats ads, etc, in a different environment a society would naturally be healthy, as was the case in Ww2 leading up to Vietnam. But this environment puts you in work, that may for any number of reasons will demotivate and demoralize people, who after a long day at work want to relax, and spend their money on short term comforts, be it drugs, video games, movies, junk food. That is a part to the reason why we as a nation are unhealthy, and of course not the whole. It is not a case of "health being seperate from the society", because as I have pointed out, it very much is. An unhealthy consumerist society that a powerful force of corporations nurtures for the benefit of the few and to everyone elses detriment. Health is apart of the society, because the way the system is structured by definition interacts, invades and imposes on peoples personal health. Think of the drug companies, the pill pushers, the criminalization of natural medicines such as marijuana, psilocybin mushrooms.
@gageorion7646
@gageorion7646 Год назад
@cslantz damn, I dont think I've ever heard that point of view so beautifully summarized. The Wachowskis or even Anonymous couldn't have said it better themselves
@user-sg8kq7ii3y
@user-sg8kq7ii3y Год назад
@@cslantz4020 Excellent post. I agree with much of what you've said. However, at the same time, with gyms and exercise equipment so available, and with information on exercise and nutrition so easy to obtain on the internet, organizing and planning an fitness plan is easier today than it has ever been in history.
@christianseyock7315
@christianseyock7315 Год назад
i love how andy breaks it all down to the real points... brilliant.
@savvysymbiont
@savvysymbiont Год назад
"unless you have an underlying medical condition" This is where this dude does not understand the world we now live in. GenZ, especially, does their best to find some medical condition to identify with in their 20s. This is perceived as a survival technique moving forward in their lives. It is promoted and encouraged by the medical establishment.
@insertnamehere8121
@insertnamehere8121 Год назад
A civilization that values weakness over strength, is a civilization with a limited lifespan
@vanessac1721
@vanessac1721 Год назад
Jim Morrison told army he was homosexual to get out of Vietnam because he was classed 1-A. It worked. People been trying to get out of the army is nothing new.
@stigcc
@stigcc Год назад
@@vanessac1721 Now you say it to get in lol
@vixthesnarky2885
@vixthesnarky2885 Год назад
Any time they agree with a fake persons bullshit they get paid for it. So I can see plenty of people smiling and nodding to the bank Docs are not supposed to get kick backs but they do.
@adamdavis3973
@adamdavis3973 Год назад
Yeah espcially woth mental health issues, you got diagnosed with depression at 15 congrats now you're depressed for life. Shit is retarded man.
@ninjaswordtothehead
@ninjaswordtothehead Год назад
This seems so backwards. It was the hardest, most painful experiences of my time in the military that I am most proud of. It was those days that you found out what you were made of, and whether or not it could be forged into something hard and useful. Taking that away seems like it would take away the very things that give you that warrior mindset. Just my thoughts.
@user-sg8kq7ii3y
@user-sg8kq7ii3y Год назад
It's all relative and a matter of perspective. Because here's the truth - your hardest, most painful experiences in the U.S. military is like a vacation day for many citizens in North Korea. Read Yeonmi Park's book. Life in North Korea is about constant worry about starving; it's about constantly being exposed to freezing temperatures; it's about constantly being paranoid that someone is watching you or listening in on your conversations. It's about a constant worry that even your best friend or a loved one will turn you in to the government just because you're watching a movie from South Korea or listening to the wrong radio station. And you will be thrown in prison and made to serve years of hard labor just because you said or did something very minor. Go to prison, and it's about rape, torture, and death. Think about escaping? It's about rape, torture, death. After escaping from North Korea and coming to the United States, Yeonmi Park volunteered in a U.S. homeless shelter. She said she was amazed at how lucky homeless people in the U.S. were. She said, they had cots to sleep on, food to eat, refrigerators, etc. They had freedom. They could come and go as they pleased. Yet she said, "Many people still seemed unhappy about being there. This baffled me."
@thomasm8872
@thomasm8872 Год назад
Yup CS gas is a humbling thing. I went through it in training and in real life. Bad Bad Bad. But I am glad I had the training. And it prepares you for much in your life. Thank you USMC
@SneeUnit
@SneeUnit Год назад
He isn’t wrong. The issue is compensation. Why would I do this if financially it doesn’t make sense? The benefits when you get out are incredible and I’m grateful for them. But, the pay is awful.
@focus-learn-attackaccomplish
I agreed that selection should be much harder but give people a chance at least.
@biggshow1045
@biggshow1045 Год назад
Happy b-day to me, yeh baby. When your training is harder than the actual mission,you know your instructors are good.
@thepokerparadox
@thepokerparadox Год назад
You know what job is VERY easy to get, but shouldn’t be?: Police Officer
@37HD
@37HD Год назад
So you're a cop? Thanks for your service toughguy
@QuixEnd
@QuixEnd Год назад
It was easier to join the military at 18 than it was to cancel my Verizon line. Sadly that's not even hyperbolic🤦‍♂️
@xXDJ_BennieXx
@xXDJ_BennieXx Год назад
I remember going through CS gas in Navy bootcamp sick with a sinus infection and being fine that same afternoon
@michaelgilroy1277
@michaelgilroy1277 Год назад
The people who object to the harsh standards are themselves the ones who couldn't meet those standards. Sweat more in peace, bleed less in war!
@Notimp0rtant523
@Notimp0rtant523 Год назад
I think y’all are missing the point of this. The standards for general military readiness are remaining largely stagnant, but fewer Americans than ever are fit for military service. It’s not a remark on how exclusive the military is, it’s a remark on how astonishingly few of us meet these requirements. And that IS a security concern.
@NomadSupreme911
@NomadSupreme911 Год назад
SEAL training is supposed to be too harsh. That's the point.
@lewieanderson6579
@lewieanderson6579 Год назад
Right now the bar is so low that ants can't even do the limbo under the bar.we need more drill Sargeants like hartman (full metal jacket) to reinforce parity in rookies
@markbucher6928
@markbucher6928 Год назад
CS gas revs up your autonomic nervous system particularly the parasympathetic side. Eyes water, bronchospasm, excessive salivation. It’s not pleasant by any mean, however it is necessary part of the training.
@xuv5607
@xuv5607 Год назад
I feel the same way about the fire service!
@danh8537
@danh8537 Год назад
Truth speaker is Andy!
@hearmevent6670
@hearmevent6670 Год назад
As a marine I would say it’s just training you knew what you were doing
@ARMY-ep6fz
@ARMY-ep6fz Год назад
Any job were someone's else life depends on how well u do your job. Military, doctors, and pilots for example. This isn't a game it's life and death u need exceptional people in these jobs.
@scottgotreaux7235
@scottgotreaux7235 Год назад
Harsh training make harsh men. They are gong to do things most people can even imagine. Harsh training will keep them alive. If it's too much for you then don't do it. You are not intitled to anything. Thanks for you service. Semper Fi
@Holdfast214
@Holdfast214 Год назад
One thing worth mentioning is that, yes it is an evolution for exposure to CS gas. The likely hood of being exposed to CS gas in a combat scenario (outside of a riot scenario) is relatively low. I would say that you are far more likely to run into a much more dangerous and lethal gas in a combat scenario. What I think should be mentioned is that this evolution is a “confidence evolution”. You need to know that your gear will save your life. You need to know how that gear needs to be dawned…QUICKLY! You need to have the confidence that your gear is your lifeline and works along with the confidence that you know how to use it properly. Strong supporter of the “Confidence Chamber” ….GAS GAS GAS!
@ironadversity2500
@ironadversity2500 Год назад
*donned lmao
@DigSamurai
@DigSamurai Год назад
My black belt grading was like hell week. Later I heard rumors that I had been beat up. It wasn't true it was just part of the training. It takes a certain type of person to go through that sort of thing but I can tell you it made me a stronger person.
@sherman4970
@sherman4970 Год назад
I doubt it was that bad 🤣🤣🤣
@DigSamurai
@DigSamurai Год назад
@@sherman4970 okay well it was more like hell day LOL
@somedude4805
@somedude4805 Год назад
It took me 2 years to be able to enlist because I was on Ritalin as a child. Went through 4 recruiters before finally swearing in. It WAS hard for me to get in, and then a couple years later I saw people getting in on FELONY WAIVERS! Infuriating.
@Kizz217
@Kizz217 Год назад
Military is down bad if they’re doing waivers for felons got dam what type of crime can you get away with to get a waiver 😂
@Ronkushman420
@Ronkushman420 Год назад
@@Kizz217 The military use to let ppl on the verge or getting sentenced to murder they would be court ordered to join the military or go to prison this isn’t new
@KennyVeach1992
@KennyVeach1992 Год назад
Your dealing with the government they can do anything
@loganwatson5905
@loganwatson5905 Год назад
Andy is the best, love that guy
@rashedusman9717
@rashedusman9717 Год назад
Maybe the biggest problem is the lack of people to choose from. To much fast food, sedentary life and even pride in being obese or depressed among young people really makes it hard to find the kind of people that are physicly and mentaly tough.
@mikebrase5161
@mikebrase5161 Год назад
The Marines did a study within the last couple years. It showed that 70% of current High school students are intelligible because they are too fat.
@cabalpaxiarch7239
@cabalpaxiarch7239 Год назад
The problem is that no one really wants to go die in war. So you can't be too picky about people who actually want to join the military in a war hungry country like America, where they're almost guaranteed to be deployed to combat.
@scotthorton7786
@scotthorton7786 Год назад
RANGER SCHOOL 1983 STARTED WITH 242 34 GRADUATED
@Riku-Leela
@Riku-Leela Год назад
Absolutely agree
@jamesdelcol3701
@jamesdelcol3701 Год назад
These guys have to be prepared for anything they do. They have to guarantee to all the men that the warrior next to them went through that training.
@mikeward1337
@mikeward1337 Год назад
Damn, I'm gluten intolerant.. dont make the cut then.. dreams crushed by a few slices of pizza
@jaezavodskoizavoiskov5488
@jaezavodskoizavoiskov5488 Год назад
Andy Stumpf hit the nail on the head damn right.....!!!!
@sierraone9181
@sierraone9181 Год назад
It should be hard; we need the best candidates. I know I don't have what it takes; I admire those who make the cut. They earned it!
@fredmyott849
@fredmyott849 Год назад
I’m just an average guy I wouldn’t expect any group to give me preferences to be in there group when I did martial arts people kicked my ass when I ride bicycles sometimes I’m better sometimes I get dropped that’s life thank god for humans who have the mental fortitude to hack out seal training and protect us don’t lower the standards we all can’t be navy seals that’s the truth.
@RoloDacat
@RoloDacat Год назад
My son went through the very intense USAF Para Rescue training pipeline. Got his Dive bubble, went through SEER, all the pool work,all the runs etc.., but man they really put these young men through some brutal shit. ANd thats a good thing but there were very few actual PJs graduating. In the end it was the intense medical training exam that got him. He failed out of the pipeline and went into Services and got stuck in Mountain Home Idaho before he got out. 8 years later hes married with two kids and works for me but parts of his body are in really bad shape. Back issues, torn labrum etc.., all suffered during pipeline. Now its an endless and frustrating process to get this fucking govt to give him a fair shake on disability. Dont get me wrong some very strong and determined young men made it and theyre enjoying the life, but theres a really high physical price to pay as you age. Years later we found out as the USAF went woke, the cones are now getting counseling, allowing pool failure re-trys, dieticians, tutors for the hard tests etc.., man they really went too far in trying to increase the amount of PJs produced. Hats off to all the young men who try, fail or not you have my eternal respect.
@timeatak5248
@timeatak5248 Год назад
13yr USAF vet here. First, your son is someone to be proud of. WE NEED men like him in our world! Second, it’s BS how he is being ignored. His sacrifice MEANT something and he should be taken care of for it. Third, the military can be extremely stupid and very mistaken in how they train. When the human element is involved, we can fail in how we train people. Doing something just to push for the sake of pushing is stupid. Training needs a fundamental reason and it sometimes is lost and goes too far because of the human element. I hope your son gets all that he sacrificed for. He deserves it. I was a pilot and knowing a PJ would come rescue me at the risk to his life meant something to me. It’s still does. And more importantly, my nephew is in the USAF PJ training pipeline now. PJ training is THE hardest military training in the world! Longest and most difficult. There is ZERO to be shameful that your son didn’t make it. He is more a warrior than most of the people wearing a uniform today. I hope he fully physically recovers from his injuries. I sleep well knowing there are men like him and you as “my neighbors” in our country.
@zaynes5094
@zaynes5094 Год назад
The thing is, with the PJs, the training is not far off from what the Navy Seals and Marines put their soldiers through. It's in the applications. It's in the way they teach their soldiers. How walk and talk and act and take basic orders, that's what basic training is all about, but it's that advanced training for Para Rescue. That's where you get the weak out. That was me thinking about doing that and my dad's brother, uncle, was in as a Para Rescue, did well over 120 missions in the late 90s and early 2000s, and he told me straight up, "Zayne, go to school, go focus on getting a job and writing your stories. Focus on crafting your stories on your own pace. So you don't get messed up for the rest of your life like me." Of course, he said he loved what he did, and if I had reservations about being a PJ, it would never actually come true. He never regretted going in and doing what he did for those 7 years he was in, but he even said that it's not what's going to make you happy. He also explained, "You're going through hours, days, possibly weeks and months, some don't see deployment as PJs for 3-4 years because they're training all the time to get ready. It's of course going to take a toll, but there is a reason their are medics around. There's a reason the dropout rate is so high. It's because on the FEW that CAN make it DO make.
@RoloDacat
@RoloDacat Год назад
@@timeatak5248 Thank you Sir for your service. In the end he has some unreal training stories and has a few friends that are living that peacetime PJ life an man it is a good one!. The most important thing to me as his father is he suffered no mental trauma like so many special forces do, time can help heal his busted up body but man those mental scars are way tougher. HUGE respect to the man and women who jump into this career field knowing what may come.
@RoloDacat
@RoloDacat Год назад
@@zaynes5094 Well said. Apparently it much different now-way more PJs being made. Are they as gnarly as guys like your uncle?, no way i would know but my son and i have heard theres less of those real bad-asses now, but hey much respect from me im just a civilian i truly appreciate all our military.
@jrwhite7916
@jrwhite7916 Год назад
As a retired "run of the mill" sailor, CS gas is AWFUL. You would bet your life you were going to die and that they were TRYING to kill you. I did it twice over my career (boot camp and casualty training) and each time sucked. The only difference was that the second time, I knew I wasn't going to die. So, relative to this story, he is absolutely correct. Show us first hand in a controlled manner, so we don't panic in the field. I saw guys absolutely lose it in boot camp during "gas chamber day" and eventually, they didn't make it.
@reneehomen2226
@reneehomen2226 Год назад
Absolutely, 100% agreed!
@gardnert1
@gardnert1 Год назад
What is really annoying about some paths in the military is that the standards are secret and you are not given feedback so no one, including most who make it, have no idea why some make it and some don't. It makes oversight impossible and likely excludes people who WOULD be good fits for the jobs in question if only they knew what to improve upon.
@themore-you-know
@themore-you-know Год назад
Playing Devil's Advocate: having public standards will get everyone to over-optimize specific properties at the cost of other properties... which the evaluator might not have thought of as requirements. A little like companies striving for profitability... by firing employees... and leading everyone into a hustle-burnout culture... right up to the point where the company's reputation tanks and receives no more application to recover from impossible churn rates (aka what Amazon managers are currently warning about, regarding an incoming lack of new employees to hire for its warehouses). (extremely exaggerated) Example for the military: - imagine a requirements sheet over-emphasizing fitness and gun knowledge. EVERYONE does that... and then years down the line... you realize that your new soldiers didn't even bother to upkeep basic reading skills. Now you have an army of soldiers that can't be promoted nor able to communicate properly.
@hw047
@hw047 Год назад
you need to have the ability to adapt to your circumstances.
@gardnert1
@gardnert1 Год назад
@@themore-you-know Yes, but no one said they have to limit their standards to only a few things. They HAVE standards, so obviously there's a limited number of things they look at. They just don't say what it is or why, and they don't give candidates feedback, making it impossible to prepare or improve. This naturally presents them with candidates who are not as good as they otherwise could be, which is the opposite of what the military needs. It's just an exercise in gate-keeping, as the guys who make it will assume that the system that selected them is the best system and doesn't need to be improved upon.
@themore-you-know
@themore-you-know Год назад
@@gardnert1, although you have sensible points, you did not address the ones I brought up.
@skiwake38
@skiwake38 Год назад
I think the instructors have one prime directive. Get rid of the quitters. Maybe they need to work on finding the ones who would rather die than quit and step in.
@weathforjr
@weathforjr Год назад
Wasn't hard for me to leave... All it took was the chain of command to be involved in and cover up sexual harassment while I was deployed, then denying me promotion because I didn't have my NCO creed memorized BEFORE I went to the board. Didn't matter if I could pass the board. They showed me the door because I wouldn't screw my squad lead. Yeh, the military is "wonderful".
@zaynes5094
@zaynes5094 Год назад
Maybe you should've just reported them. I may not have been military, but I do know quite a few that are/were military and did tell me plenty of stories like this happening, however, their is also a chain of command and hierarchy is real in the military. ANY military. It's not that it's covered up like you say, it's more or less because nobody else will lose their spots or jobs just because of a little SH. Maybe you just didn't want to do it anymore. It's okay. It's not for everyone. I know I'm soft, but I am not weak-willed or weak-minded. I very unselfishly could've become a USAF Para Rescueman. However, My uncle, after being Para rescue for over 8 years in the 90s, told me not to do it if I wasn't dead serious about it. So I chose a safer, yet no less stressful field, college.
@weathforjr
@weathforjr Год назад
Report it to whom, IG? Who do you think was prosecuting me? Thankfully my Captain decided to drop the art 15 because they didn't want to embarrass the unit because it would've been me and a counterclaim with the photographic evidence and eyewitness testimony of the other soldiers who saw their NCO endanger their soldiers and their mission... No, I was given a soft landing, but the LAST people I'd have gone to was my chain of command.
@dustinwest5410
@dustinwest5410 Год назад
I 100% agree with him on everything he said.
@B1RDSEYE
@B1RDSEYE Год назад
1:05 that’s a cold line.
@cyberknife82
@cyberknife82 Год назад
Recruiters put you in a spot that needs to be filled. Plus being in the military with low pay working 6 days a week for at least 12 hours a day no young person wants to join really.
@markblankenship5788
@markblankenship5788 Год назад
Agree, super hard saves lives. We don’t want a bunch of people in the military because they were let in because of a curve.
@unluckytourist
@unluckytourist Год назад
Drop the criminal history requirements. I've seen 4 interviews with former SAS soldiers now, and all of them had criminal convictions/jail time.
@eddiehancockii
@eddiehancockii Год назад
I was born with L4 spina bifida. I love my military members. I support each of you with Action and Word. And when i was a senior in high school (maaaaannnny moons ago) i took the ASVAB test. And scored very high. So high i had every recruiter for 100 miles calling me. And i WISH there was a way i could serve. Unfortunately, i had to settle for being the father of a United States Marine..... it's not what i wanted but It's RIGHT. The military shouldn't change because i would like to be in the military. I cannot meet the standard from my wheelchair. And there's nothing wrong with that FACT. LOVE Y'ALL! God Bless!
@abbynormall207
@abbynormall207 Год назад
It HAS to be too harsh!!!!!!!
@Rome_22
@Rome_22 Год назад
This was awesome. You guys talk so educated! lol. Im from the south and dont sound nearly as good 😂
@christopherhaycox7923
@christopherhaycox7923 Год назад
Amen. Let's make America great again, way to go Andy Stumpf.
@markcain2418
@markcain2418 Год назад
Chris, CS training is a part of EVERY service. Prior infantry and military police myself. It was a yearly requirement. Not that big a deal. People that are complaining have never done the job.
@jamesmorris4258
@jamesmorris4258 Год назад
I got hit with some wicked CS gas when I went to SWAT school… yeah, it sucks, but it’s important to understand your physical reaction to those types of things if you’re going to work a dangerous job.
@hnlong8531
@hnlong8531 Год назад
I had a roommate at my unit, he had Boarderline Personality Disorder, ODD, autism, schizophrenia and a mild learning disability. I was about to get my SO contract but him and jealous higer ups sabotaged me anyway they could and i ended up getting an auto immune disorder called gad 65 autoimmune encephalitis and almost died. I had to medically retire but the fact they intentionally made me sick and want to keep my roommate even though he couldn't follow orders of go to work. I understand people slip through the cracks but top brass needs to take all reports seriously. He couldn't treat any patients as a FMF Corpsman because he would have a panic attack and didn't know or understand his job. I was Senior Line Corpsman of 2 companies simultaneously but they wanted me gone on their terms but want to keep him and its really stupid when you think of the long term affects of keeping someone like that in a combat medicine job in the Navy.
@spencerhaley5644
@spencerhaley5644 Год назад
seeing zac's merch on your podcast is a bit surreal as a long time fan of both of you guys ahahaha
@victorsierra9840
@victorsierra9840 Год назад
The military has always adjusted the standards according to the available average recruit. It has always been more important to fill the billets vs find the best candidate. They have processes to identify excellent candidates when they do find them and provide specialized career paths.
@dogecoin1692
@dogecoin1692 Год назад
What do you mean by specialized career paths?
@AnttiTolamo
@AnttiTolamo Год назад
But quantity matter too just not quality. Take 300 spartants and even they are 10 times more skilled than 20 000 Persians, they will eventually die if defending small area. And if you look lot of technological development, it has lowered the threshold to use weapons. Fireguns are much more easier to use than gladius or pike. Weak man can kill with AR more people faster than strong man that is skilled gladius. Just look school shooting for example. Shooting artillery rounds does not need professional atheletes. Neither does operaring drone. Both will kill any skilled soldier if they get exposed quite easily. Few skilled men with extraordinary physique are not going to offset technology and numbers. Technology makes easier weaker man to kill and more number you got to do it, more it scales too. That does not mean you dont need standards, But raising standards wont forever offset numbers and technology.
@Alex00789
@Alex00789 Год назад
For certain missions you need trained specialists.
@Devilinabag
@Devilinabag Год назад
I agree at that first part. We arent technically supposed to have a standing army anyway so only maintain a actual professional soldier, not basic infantry. Make Rangers the standard. I agree with the rest too i was just commenting on that first bit.
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