NB Miata Goes Full Standalone ECU! ME442 / ME221 Install [Project 2SJ Ep7]

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What's up guys and happy 2021!! I'm pumped to finally get started on modifying the NB, and there's no better place to start than with a standalone. This is already a really fun car and I can't wait to see where the build goes. If you guys have any questions regarding the installation of the ME ECU drop them down below, see you guys in the next one! (It will be less than a month this time I promise loll)
Additional notes for install (let me know in the comments if you think of anything):
1) For all UK models, the ECU is under the passenger floorboard, so access is much easier.
2) For improved text scaling (mine is funky in the video)
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The following steps should improve the scaling of the MEITE software in windows 10 and the presentation of tables and data.
1. Right click the MEITE icon and click properties.
2. Click compatibility tab
3. Click change high DPI settings
4. Tick the box that says "Override high DPI scaling behaviour"
5. In the drop down menu, select "system",
6. Press OK. Reopen the MEITE software.
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3) Regarding datalogging - The 442 has on-board logging. This means the ECU is logging to the on-board SD card any time the key is in the "run" position and you can extract those logs from the ECU, which are time stamped. This is an EXTREMELY helpful feature, for those times where the engine does something unexpected but you were not manually recording a datalog.

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@AramysFS7 3 года назад

I feel I speak for all us NB owners when I say, ABOUT TIME WOOOO

@BigBenlolz 3 года назад

Getting to the outro is so bittersweet. On one hand: "man its already over" On the other "shit's my jam"

@miata9916 3 года назад

DUD DUD DUD DUD DUD DUD

@FDB77 3 года назад

Dad?! You’re finally back! Did you get the milk?

@vicmacarra 3 года назад

This series is going to be GOLD

@shadowkeeper0 3 года назад

Actually in both of my european NBs, one 1.6l and one 1.8l, their ECUs were on the passenger's footwell ;)

@mathiasmang848 3 года назад

I'm running a 221 in my turbo for more than 2 years now. Looking forward to learn new things

@kentuckysleepyhollowband1611 3 года назад

Hey Greg what's the pros and cons of running the ME ECU versus a megasquirt

@JamesChurchill3 3 года назад

Hey Greg, how about throwing a Speeduino ECU into your next Miata?

@spacecassette2108 3 года назад

I dont think Miata Dad would want such a reliable ECU

@sid-mk-one-mx5 3 года назад

Awesome vid, watching with interest as I have a ME221 in a 1.6 supercharged NA and I want to learn more about tuning.. ✌🏻 Peace out man 👍🏻

@taylorbynam1929 3 года назад

DAaaaaaD! It’s good to see you again! 😀

@testacorsa150 3 года назад

Ahh, yes. Could not wish for a better topic. And it's my birthday too :)

@SuperDizzy13 3 года назад

We've missed you dude, welcome back Greg!

@ellemeno7496 3 года назад

Would really like to see if you can recommend the ME! I don´t know if i should get the ME or the Megasquirt...

@alexjapanski6806 3 года назад

2:12 LMAO Greg the Japanese Tsuchiya videos “WOW” sound effect... Brilliant touch mate !!!

@SuperNarion123 3 года назад

Would you prefer megasquirt over this

@Rhidrio3 3 года назад

I did have a chuckle at your cold start being 19c. That's a nice summers day!

@Beansswtf 3 года назад

Lol literally

@timmyjimmy9169 Год назад

Thanks for showing removal

@benalborta 3 года назад

Just got done with class, that's some pretty impeccable timing if i do say so myself

@setharcher5869 3 года назад

I've had a ME221 running in my MSM for 3.5 years but I still watched.

@pedernordberg5573 3 года назад

I’ve been hoping this build series would go DIY ITB’s. Motorcycle throttle bodies ! FTW!

@TheCarPassionChannel 3 года назад

That's not been ruled out yet 👍

@Nebbia_affaraccimiei 3 года назад

miata dad is back

@dimitrigohaud6813 3 года назад

I try this yesterday and I failed because I didn't knew that we could locked 10°. Now with your help I know how to check my advance timing to found where my horse power are gone on my ITB mx5 😁

@braunblech8328 3 года назад

Saw your question at SN9 stream and was like whaaaat... TRACKDASYBOO :D

@TheCarPassionChannel 3 года назад

Everyday Astronaut is the GOAT

@hoff247 3 года назад

Thanks for the video. Ive had my me221 for a month now and was a little hesitant to install because I wasn't sure how well the base map would run. I think I will be installing in my 99 miata tomorrow.

@ralphymathew2744 3 года назад

NB Time baby!!! 🥰

@RicSupra 3 года назад

The ecu location also differs for all european cars (think the japanese version also ) , they all have them on the passenger floor.

@millerfab1320 3 года назад

Not gonna lie that was a really good merch plug

@yakhunt9424 3 года назад

Finally, someone is going to cover the ME221 / 442, got one in my NA recently so looking forward to this

@silverpairaducks 3 года назад

I need to finish my speeduino stand alone...

@theincredibletruestory1741 3 года назад

i love mine, hurry up and get that thing finished

@silverpairaducks 3 года назад

@@theincredibletruestory1741 im building the board from Westfield...so gimme a minute

@youraveragefishkeeper 3 года назад

Way better then donut media. Just sayin.

@Stranio34 3 года назад

Agreed, but I would still love to see them do a video together.

@tylerreed7385 3 года назад

I like both of them, for different reasons, donut cuz they do the stuff I wouldn't do/maybe do cuz they interest me and car passion, because his on a budget and learning making mistakes as I am

@JonahAberle 3 года назад

THANK YOU!! Do you have a promo code coming for those of us looking to buy an ME442 here soon?

@ReikoX7 3 года назад

Greg it would be crazy if you add up a new stroker kit from Maruha they are going to sale a new Crank 87mm with beter pricing than their previous stroker kit. It should be around 1200$ the price and som more technical stuff will be out in April. :)

@ps3modder92 3 года назад

A clear guide on how to set up cold start properly in miete would be much appreciated!

@yakhunt9424 3 года назад

Very much this, I added a start injector priming pulse and upped the start injector cranking trim on the original basemap and it's much better, still needs some fine tuning. Be good to see someone who knows what they are doing though

@ps3modder92 3 года назад

@@yakhunt9424 I had no idea what I was doing for that part, shame motorsport electronics doesn't have a video about it at all

@yakhunt9424 3 года назад

@@ps3modder92 Agreed, wish there was more online specific to the ME ECUs, the basic principles apply though, cold fuel in a cold engine doesn't vapourise that well so you need to add more to get it to catch

@wibuwe 3 года назад

Love these types of videos! Please tell me this is going to be an naturally aspirated build 🐢

@TheCarPassionChannel 3 года назад

That is my plan, although I'm not completely decided on the exact direction of NA power yet 😊

@louiedevera4534 3 года назад

@@TheCarPassionChannel bro if I could subscribe to you twice I would !

@jessehanson3828 3 года назад

Thanks for another great video!

@MitchelYardley 3 года назад

I’m really wanting the ME ecu for my NC!

@BigIsleJ 3 года назад

Nice job Sir!

@theimporttuner399 3 года назад

Why not Megasquirt for the nb?? What made you switch over?

@grahamcrane83 3 года назад

Probably because ME gave him a free ECU or - more likely - paid him to run it.

@Dawnhun1er 3 года назад

Could you take us through your cold start tuning procedure? Even though I’m on a dyno tuned megasquirt 3 my cold start could use some improvements. I guess the process is quite similar between the ME441 and MS3?

@shawnhett7648 3 года назад

Don’t even own my miata anymore, still watch your channel

@TheAdatto 3 года назад

i Got a voltage peak in my me221 and now my 1.8vvt is technically totall loss. Everything is burned up

@jp2246 3 года назад

That T-shirt is great 👍

@chrishayes2809 3 года назад

Hi Greg I’m hoping you will do more on the ME221 tuning like you did with the Megasquirt pls. My MX5 has been tuned and dynoed but as a noob to this ecu it would be good to learn how to tweak things myself here’s hoping

@jonb4667 3 года назад

Hi Greg, How about getting a 323f Lantis for your next project??? Keep up the good work...

@nigelmcclean4166 3 года назад

How do u only have 100k subscribers?

@oscarmike9462 3 года назад

Do you prefer this ecu over a megasquirt 3 pro? I’m buying one soon for a supercharged 94 Miata.

@yakhunt9424 3 года назад

Top Tip - avoid resistor-less 'racing' plugs, the EMF plays havoc with the USB comms. Ask the man whose just replaced most of his ignition system today to find out ;-)

@mgrimau 3 года назад

Im sorry if my quetion is perhaps stupid, but recently my ECU is giving and error check engine that apparently the EGR valve send , and after reading, loking and investigating, my EGR valve basically screw my ECU, so i need to change it or my Check engine will not dissapear. No i read that to change this, also need to change inmobilizer .. sice keys are married with ecu and immobilizer, How then you put a new ECU (this ME442) and not change immobilizaer, my car is NB 2003 1.6 MK2 I want to delete this check engine the easy, fast and cheap way possible. If ill buy a ecu then perhaps this one you recommend on this video, does NOT need to remove immobilizaer, or do i neeed to go for my OEM one ?? Anyway hope this is clear.. if not let me know.. thanks and amazing channel !!!

@djdoc36 3 года назад

ill be getting this for my NB...will be paying attention!! TY for the vid

@lloydjohn3564 3 года назад

More me442 stuff

@HenzPowell 3 года назад

ME221 been installed on mine (Click on my channel) for 5 years or so.... Literally ultra reliable....

@Muttpond595 5 месяцев назад

Miata dad I need you help. So I installed this ecu into my nb1 but it won’t run even on a base map. I got it to start once but it runs on 2 cylinders only. I’ve gone through everything you talk about in this vid but now the injectors aren’t firing at all car ran fine before the ecu I even went back to stock to see if maybe my injectors died but no it’s all back to normal now. I would really appreciate some help this is a headache. Thanks for all the awesome content❤

@tameralobeidi3549 3 года назад

Damn, the anticipation for a new video was killing me! Thank god you’re back

@rokudrifter 3 года назад

Thanks crepe

@327efrain Год назад

That thing sounds like a dirt bike at the beginning during your drift. Brap brap braaap

@IrishGaucho 22 дня назад

I know it's an older video but.... no, you do not need a wideband to tune the car if you take it to a tunner. They will hook up the wideband from their dyno usually... a nice to have but certainly not a requirement if you go with the 221

@TheCarPassionChannel 22 дня назад

@@IrishGaucho You absolutely need a wideband in any relatively modified car. A one-and-done 2-hour tune by some guy with a dyno will not cover all the tuning needs a car has, you want to be able to monitor the tune over time and also use AFR's for troubleshooting issues. Without a wideband you also won't be able to use ANY closed-loop fueling features on the ECU.

@FREEVERGO8 2 года назад

Any reasons why you’d run this ECU over a mega squirt ??

@MikevanEsch 3 года назад

I've been using the ME442 in my turbo MX5 for about half a year now, idle tuning etc is actually pretty easy and it starts up almost as fast as stock. I'm always happy to send my tunes if you need some inspiration :)

@MikevanEsch 3 года назад

@Zio Peraza what kind of help do you need?

@MikevanEsch 3 года назад

@Zio Peraza If you are in Closed loop PWM idle, make sure the min and max duty of the valve are "effective" also the Exit idle duty should be close to the idle duty so it falls back properly. I have P=0.1, I=75 and D=0. Conditions are Min RPM=500, Max RPM=1500 Regarding the lean idle, check how much the car has to trim lambda when falling back in idle and change your VE table accordingly.

@MikevanEsch 3 года назад

@Zio Peraza snipboard._io/Snr5xz._jpg Remove the underscores

@MikevanEsch 3 года назад

@Zio Peraza coincidentally mine is turbo aswell so it would be a good approximation

@MikevanEsch 3 года назад

@Zio Peraza So basically Min and Max are the values that actually change the idle. if for example the rpm stays the same between 55 and 65, your effective PWM is 55 since more doesn't do anything. My min/ max is 18/35 but those values are different for everyone. What is your exit idle duty, best choice is to choose a value close to the actual idle PWM (so once it's idling at about 950 rpm, look at the idle pwm duty and round it off)

@4xHitler 3 года назад

overheatin pistons? you tryna tell me my stock NA is in danger?

@DarkDMD 11 месяцев назад

Why ME442 instead of m3pro?

@joshhalterman5701 3 года назад

9:35 Can you do a short tutorial on how to fix that belt squeal? XD. My NB2 sounds exactly like that from a colt start, and I have to let it warm up for 10+ minutes for it to go away. I've already replaced and tightened the belts...

@dalewright7908 3 года назад

Tighten your alternator belt

@hewbambam 3 года назад

Before I even saw the video with the camshaft holder setup I did mine with two adjustable spanners and zip ties. Have a look at my Instagram (@hewbambam) to see what I did.

@fatninja987 3 года назад

Im here dad

@fifielcoolio 2 года назад

so are you prefering to tune with ms or me?

@aristotleallen5577 3 года назад

Did you add an IAT or are you still using the stock MAF?

@TheCarPassionChannel 3 года назад

MAF is now deleted, and used the stock IAT, but I'm having some inconsistent fueling issues which I think might be related to it. I will be swapping out to the GM IAT soon

@koriyuhboi436 3 года назад

I have a question. Fab9 tuning made there edition about the Me221. What do you think about it? So if I get a ME442 or ME221 with a 1991 1.8 swapped miata using the 1.6 harness and ecu to run the motor. Then what map should I use?

@pigownzu 3 года назад

Great video creg

@LordTheodore04 3 года назад

noice intro

@joro8604 3 года назад

some of the best content. Even the intro rocks. Well done.

@dirtperson4221slash2 3 года назад

Great video. It's helpful you take extra editing time to show what not to do vs just cutting to the finish product..I tried to take a data log, but it was more of a scatter plot. Jk. Poop jokes. Any one else hear the squeak toy shift sound? Makes it impossible to be upset. Pedal noise?

@ChutneyInc. Год назад

Does the o2 sensor plug into the oem harness?

@djquaky 3 года назад

12:14 Nice try ! You want us to believe your Name is Greg... but we al Know it’s spelled Kraihgch

@anmolbehl1883 3 года назад

Are your injectors cleaned and flow tested? the single 02 can't compensate for the variation in flow between the injectors.

@nickwild7 3 года назад

still have 16minutes to go but i just realized.... you have the wrong seats in there O.o is the diff right? lol

@dbflyerr007 3 года назад

Suggest putting a smiley mouth on the shirt- make the block look like a smiling alien with ET like eyes (Cam pulleys)

@alexjohn5086 3 года назад

Welcome back ,was worried you got Covid 19 . Will ME software run on Chrome book?

@axelarkin644 3 года назад

is i original oem LSD?

@pey321 3 года назад

me puts a order in online (to England) next video WE GOT NEW STUFF me F%*K

@evansisgreat 3 года назад

I like how the silhouette of the old ECU kind of looks like a dinosaur in the thumbnail. Not sure if it was intentional but if it was it's a good little Easter egg if it was.

@tadascerniauskas6919 3 года назад

After base map, is it not possible to use autotune option to make the map better while driving? Or without proper dyno tune you cant get it to run as it should?

@Athispointwhocares 2 года назад

how do you pass OBD emissions with it though?

@67scout73 2 года назад

1. Does this bypass the immobilizer? 2. Can it be tuned to pass an OBD II emissions test?

@robinnewcomb2531 3 года назад

I've got a'95 M Edition... So, it's running Windows 95... Maybe?

@susuys 3 года назад

FYI, in EU and JDM models, 1.8 NBs also have their ECU on passenger floor.

@NoNoNo12322 2 года назад

Youre more of a miata professor/dr. Making it like Frankenstein in a montrous way

@jselectronics8215 3 года назад

We made individual cylinder knock control for the Miata in 1992.

@ROGUESPIRIT_ 3 года назад

i have a 1.8 na and ecu was under passenger foot 🤔🤔

@ericsson_motorsports 3 года назад

It's different depending on the market, in the EUDM and the JDM models it was in the footwell but in the USDM model it was above the pedals. At least that's what I've heard

@Henry_the_viii_club 2 года назад

Does the map line go to the same location on the intake if you have a turbo set up? My Car has been out of action for over a year due to me taking it apart lol and I forgot if you run the map line from ecu to one of the ports on the electronic boost controller or to the intake barb?

@TheCarPassionChannel 2 года назад

The map line needs to come from a vacuum source regardless of if the car is turbo, supercharged, or n/a. That is, any spot after the throttle body. The EBC line should be connected to the intercooler piping, after the compressor but before the throttle body (EBC/Wastegate should never see vacuum)

@Henry_the_viii_club 2 года назад

@@TheCarPassionChannel Thanks Greg appreciate the speedy reply. I have Been in the process of changing my forged engine into a new chassis after a little accident in the wet. With limited time due to work and not being a actual mechanic it's taken a while lol. 1 more weekend and I think she should be ready to terrorise the streets of London once more 😏 ( London England that is).

@dominicshort7377 Год назад

Did you have any issues with the fuel pump not running? Have an nb1 with the 442 and I can not get the fuel pump to run, so just cranks and cranks no start

@TheCarPassionChannel Год назад

There's wording in the instructions on how to set the ECU up depending on the model of your car, there are switches that can be flipped inside the ECU. I would look into that

@dominicshort7377 Год назад

@@TheCarPassionChannel seems like it may be the immobilizer , I jumped the fp on the diag box and the car started right up

@dominicshort7377 Год назад

Now realized about the board switch settings😂

@christianzinn7636 3 года назад

GLAD YOUR FINALLY BACK!!! Why this ECU? Is it better than a Magi Squirt Pro? Is it less expensive than a MSP? Is it easier to use and/or have more features than a MSP? Thanks for the Video!!! Best Always, Chris Zinn

@noelchristie7669 3 года назад

Buying an m442 will save you about 300-400 dollars in comparison to a Megasquirt 3

@TheOfficialWickedOne 3 года назад

How does one get a hold of u? Got a proposition.

@TheCarPassionChannel 3 года назад

thecarpassionchannel@gmail.com

@MaxSpeedMike 3 года назад

I absolutely love this series. Even more so now that I own an nb1 myself

@mastercricket7626 3 года назад

Lol I doing that right now broke thermostat housing changing a stuck thermostat lmao

@farmerbobbygrows3338 3 года назад

Awesome modeling miata dad😂😂 love the merch gonna pick a hat up when I get paid

@rubenm5138 3 года назад

i cant burnout on the spot, my wheel hop is out of this world ::(

@noahgarcia8586 3 года назад

Took a while to upload

@4399daniel 3 года назад

We need to see Miata Dad with the kids in Florida with ol’ cleeter and Adam LZ

@bandwagon240 3 года назад

Don't do that to Creg, nobody deserves to be tainted like that.

@4399daniel 3 года назад

@@bandwagon240 why don’t you like Garrett and Adam? Or is this an east coast west cost thing? I have no idea. I’m from Australia

@bandwagon240 3 года назад

@@4399daniel I'm on the east coast, just do not want to subject dad to such douchebaggery. Dad deserves the best.

@4399daniel 3 года назад

@@bandwagon240 Ahh mate. Let’s not be haters. - starts playing ‘why can’t we be friends’- 😂

@bandwagon240 3 года назад

@@4399daniel tolerance of stupid people is not something that I possess, sorry boss.

@Belgarion115 3 года назад

I think, for the uninitiated (but interested, like myself), it would be nice to get a comprehensive understanding of the advantages the 442 offers over the 221. The 442 is provided with a wideband O2 sensor but that's about the only part that I understand.