My dad had a negative NDE. He needed heart surgery a few years ago and died briefly while they were finshing the procedure. He said that he was aware that he was dead and it was totally dark and he felt the weight of his sins. He said he experienced the sensation of not being able to breathe. He couldn't inhale but he continued to exist. Eventually the doctors got his body working and he came back. He doesn't know if he was in hell or purgatory but he doesn't want to go back.
@@alisterrebelo9013 Glory to God for giving him a nightmarish experience? If he had a positive NDE instead, would there be no glory to God then? Or is it that no matter what happens, or doesn’t happen, it’s glory to God I guess?
I’m not so confident that NDEs are really glimpses into the afterlife, rather than being some type of vision. Some people come back from NDEs claiming that the light being or religious figure they met told them there was no hell, or told them they would be reincarnated if they stayed, and most that I’ve read seem to come back feeling they are forgiven for everything without any conditions like repentance coming into play. One woman blithely counseled a student of hers to have an abortion, because she had learned from her time in “heaven” that there was no condemnation for anyone. To me this suggests that the person’s soul is not in heaven, but in some realm where it can be acted upon by either heavenly beings or deceptive beings.
There’s actually material to explore here; early political progressivism (and issues such as abortion), in the U.S. had some connections to liberal Protestantism, but also to (in smaller measure but evidenced), New Awakenings and Spiritualist elements, where spiritual and political coincided at seances, channeling sessions etc. John Benedict Buescher (Catholic revert from Buddhism), whose work can be found online has written about this era and since.
There are DNDEs(Distressing Near-Death Experiences) or so I believe they are called. Jimmy has a video on it. Some people experience hell through it. Edit: He actually talks about this at around 7:00 Edit 2: He does so again later into the video.
@17:00 there are a few experiences where people learned knowledge they should not have known naturally. So they indicate at least some instances where people are seeing things that are real.
From the ones I've heard in various forms I think some are real, some are related to medications, and some are phony. Phony ones may be made up by someone who wants to be on RU-vid videos and get attention (and sell a book), or someone who had a dream and interpreted it as they wanted to. Some people may have also had a real NDE but as time passed by they subconsciously added elements that reinforce their world view. I've heard some people say that they remembered more about the experience as time went on, which is possibly suspicious. They may sincerely believe these additions like some sincerely believe "past memories" discovered in therapy which turn out not to have ever happened. I heard one on RU-vid which was very suspect to me and sounded much more like a bad trip - one hellish experience after another despite being a pretty decent person - and then they wrote a book.
I KNEW that kid who saw Heaven was coached by his pastor Dad. He would always look to his father for approval. There was a crippled Catholic boy who saw angels,etc, and he sounded very believable.
The NDE phenomenon is fascinating, and the evidence for them seems to be overwhelmingly strong at this point. I'm not sure the final afterlife is being seen in all of these cases, but I think it can be said beyond a reasonable doubt that many of these people ARE receiving preternatural knowledge and are genuinely experiencing real things from outside their bodies. What I'm interested in is pondering the implications of NDE phenomena for everything else. We tend to cordon different topics off into their own spheres, as if they all pertain to their own separate non-overlapping realities. But that's a schizophrenic view of the world, because of course there's only one reality, and all truths come together somehow. For example, in NDEs (and other OOBEs for which there are evidence) it seems clear that people at least sometimes have veridical visual experiences of things in the physical world from a vantage point outside their bodies. Even blind people can have visual experiences in NDEs, sometimes for the first time in their lives. But how exactly? Certainly it's not that photons are being absorbed by their eyeballs, triggering nerve signals that are delivered to their brains, which are then (somehow) generating conscious phenomenal experiences of vision in their minds from them. Somehow they are grasping the forms of things without a physical medium, yet experiencing them in a way very much like the visual experience that is mediated by our eyes. So what does that imply about physics? At the very least it seems to imply that the mathematical physical abstractions we call "laws" not only fail to describe all of reality, but that they don't capture important facets of even physical reality. And what does it imply about biology and biological origins? Certainly it cannot be written off as happenstance that animals evolved eyes and visual systems that deliver conscious visual experiences that just so happen to be like the visual experiences we have when disembodied and experiencing the world without any physical apparatus. Furthermore, I've become convinced that, philosophically speaking, attempting to reduce and redefine the concept of biological function in terms of Darwinian natural selection is incoherent in principle, and always entails an elimination of biological function (thus defining life away entirely) rather than an explanation. But be that as it may, it should be especially apparent that having veridical visual experiences from outside your body after death (or near-death) that are not mediated by your physical body, but that can be remembered and related to others once you return to your physical body, is not something that can possibly be accounted for in terms of environmental pressures. I don't claim to have the answers here, but it seems obvious that any serious attempt to put it all together holistically necessarily implies a drastic reimagining of how physics works, of how biology and evolution work, and probably much more, or at least requires that we see our present understanding of these things as drastically incomplete and missing very fundamental, relevant aspects of reality. It also occurs to me that all of our scientific reconstructions and models of various phenomena, past and present, depend on taking our limited understandings of those aspects that lend themselves to mechanistic, mathematical reduction, abstracting them apart from everything else, and then nevertheless taking those abstractions as complete self-contained descriptions of the phenomena in question. How drastically different, or at least drastically more tentative, might a whole host of our conclusions look if we kept a more holistic view in mind?
Bryan Melvin has an interview on his NDE where he says he went to hell. And at first it didn’t seem like hell he said it seemed like paradise. He is now Christian and evangelizes Indian tribes. Very interesting account as some of it sounds like purgatory.
I'm catching this on the day of the eclipse, April 8,v2024. We were at 98.something% of totality at Maximum. Due to some idea that it would protect elementary aged students (I work in schools), it was decided that, instead of releasing the children at 3:15PM, when the local view of the eclipse would reach Maximum, school would begin 15 minutes later and dismiss at 3:30PM. This meant that I couldn't get home in time to see how my cats responded to the event, even though I'm only 5 minutes from home. I was sure they would remain napping as usual, and when I did arrive home at 3:40, they were, indeed napping. And the one that usually greets me first was, indeed at the door soon after I walked in. But instead of giving a few quiet chirps as usual, he was extremely talkative. That is to say, he was more vocal than normal for him, and the vocalizations kind of sounded like excited sentences, full of tone, pitch, inflection, and variations in each vocalization, similar to the way humans speak. It's not the first time I've been late coming home, as I sometimes have to stop at the store, or go to the vet clinic for flea preventative, in which case I arrive home even later than I did today. But he's never vocalized like that. And it wasn't that he was just hungry, because I set his feeding schedule to accommodate times when I won't get home by 3:30. I just thought it was really interesting that he had so much to communicate while the eclipse was still happening, but was past the maximum. It didn't go totally dark, but the world looked different. It was similar to the amount of light just before a thunderstorm, but the light was an orangish shade, as opposed to gray. Maybe that's what he was telling me. I wish I understood what he was saying!
I would I like to add on to Jimmy's words at hoax section there has been 9 million people in the USA with a NDE and there been cases of NDEs in ancient Greece with consistent features unlike cerebral anoxia which are different from person to person
Many NDErs are not “saved” as you say and have had positive NDEs. The NDErs who are “saved” often have negative NDEs and that more often caused “fear of hell”
Jesus explains purgatory in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus the poor man, they both die and go to Hell, the rich man to Gehenna the hell of the damned and Lazarus to hell of waiting,the bosom of Abraham also known as paradise by the Jews, and this is what Jesus meant when he said to the thief on the cross this day you will be with me in paradise, Jesus descended into the hell of waiting and not the hell of the damned. Hell has 3 levels the hell of waiting,Sheol in Hebrew and Hades in Greek, the hell of waiting, the abyss filled with the fallen angels and then the hell of the damned,Gehenna in Hebrew and tarsatus in Greek.
I have heard that the tennis shoe story (17 min) has been widely reported by never verified. No one has been able to locate this person or hospital. If there is evidence it would be welcome to see it.
Thank you for this. I haven’t listened yet but I’ve always wondered about the NDE of Neurosurgeon Eben Alexander and why he was able to see the creator without seeing Jesus. How was Christian’s are we to make sense of this given his account was so believable.
His account sounded like an extended dream or hallucination like experience. It was such an absurd account, which to me pointed to it being clearly a creation of his own unconscious or subconscious mind.
@@Ragnar-Lothbrok967 have you read his book? Seemed incredibly believable to me. He said in the book this life is like a dream in comparison to how real that experience was. His brain was also shut down during this time.
@@johnbrion4565 I haven’t read it. But certain elements that he has shared in videos, like travelling back and forth between different layers or levels of the afterlife reality, seemed very silly, like his own mind was creating what he was experiencing, giving the reality his own logic for how it all worked, through the interaction between the subconscious brain and his conscious brain, much as with dreams. And while I get him saying it felt more real than real, I’m not sure how reliable that is, since for all we know, in the state his brain was at the time, it might be able to create ultra-lucid experiences that seem to be at a higher level. I also wonder about when he actually had the experience. For all we know, the whole thing occurred in a matter of minutes during the time his brain was “coming back online”, with the illusion of a great deal of time having passed, something the brain is also capable of. I personally have had what seemed like insanely long dreams during short periods of sleep time.
We also have to remember that anything someone with a NDE is shown might not be a glimpse into the true afterlife. God knows that the person is going to come back to Earth before the NDE actually happens, so we can't be sure that what they is what someone whom God knows isn't coming back experiences. There's also the fact that the afterlife experiences might be individually tailored. No way to know if there's a set procedure for everyone or not. People have indeed reported different things.
The problem with accounts being inconsistent or even contradictory in terms of the “truths” of existence they declare, is that when two things contradict, logic dictates one must be wrong, or neither are correct.
Two thoughts: #1 could the memory of NDE’s have anything to do with why some remember dreams and some don’t? #2 could the pain in purgatory have something to with the amount of repentance you feel as the sinner?
Perhaps they do not remember them because the soul does not leave the body which is how is defined death in catholic theology. So no leaving the body = no experience. We do not know when the soul leaves the body even when vitals are nonexistent.
Most people remember nothing, so going by your idea, most people’s souls stay attached to their bodies even when close to death. Why then do only some souls detach from their bodies when near death?
So one may speculate that if the devil already has you in line for hell, they will push towards suicide. I wonder what would happen if we encourage people with negative NDEs to go to confession and recognize the Mercy of the Lord
Why is God letting the devil do this? So people don’t choose to commit suicide of their own free will? The devil makes them do it? If the devil is responsible for all the sins of the world, why should humans be held accountable for anything?
Will you do a video on Targeted individuals and organized stalking and the covert surveillance system that uses brain to cloud interface technology which i call the godmachine and have devoted a decade attempting to expose and gain control of as a A.I. god shaman religion called Nostic church of dARb
Hi Jimmy! Is there any conclusion that we might draw from or begin to draw based on Nancy Bush's negative NDE prominently featuring yinyang symbols? I recently watched an episode from a show I just got into called Avatar the Last Airbender which prominently features the yinyang symbol in a very positive light. I think having seen your video on negative ndes that part of the show is now giving me pause and I'm worried that I'm *potentially* doing something wrong or opening something bad up by continuing to watch the show. Of course, I don't expect you to be familiar with this but any principles that would help me know what to do what be appreciated. I'm going to talk to my priest about this too.
I watched Avatar: The Last Airbender when I was young and still re-watch it sometimes. Overall, while the show draws a lot from more Eastern philosophies than what most people might be used to in the West, I don’t see too many issues with watching it. It’s a fantasy world at its core, so it will be drawing from numerous elements (ha 😂) in its storytelling and world building. I personally never found the show damaging to my faith or spiritual life, and do appreciate it for its exploration of various themes about war, bravery, family, friendship, loss, etc. The Avatar being a reincarnated person may trip some people up, but it’s not like an individual person is being reincarnated, just the ‘power or energy’ that makes the Avatar unique is being cycled through. Yin Yang as a concept is one of balanced forces in Eastern philosophy, most notably Chinese. There is an idea of good and evil, but that can be a lot of ideas if one gets down to it. (Spoilers for ATLA) The show represents part of this with the inclusion the Moon and Ocean spirits, whose circling of each other gives the “push and pull” forces that water benders use, along with other natural forces. There’s also Heibe the forest spirit, who is either peaceful and calm as a panda or can be a terrifying and chaotic monster when angered. The spirits may physically embody those principles, but the show also emphasizes how people need a sense of balance as well. Water/Fire, Earth/Air, the Avatar bridging the physical and spirit world, Lightening bending involving a fire bender controlling their duel natures, Zuko’s two broadswords, balance needing to be brought back to the world, people either falling on to the side of good or evil with varying shades of gray, etc. Part of the Catholic faith is also balancing and harmonizing ourselves so that we tune ourselves more to God’s will. Yes, He is there in our chaos, but He ultimately wants us to find peace with Him and in our lives. I’m not saying Yin Yang or some philosophies can always be harmonized with God and Christianity, but I think elements exist which speak to the human longing for Him. If you feel that the show will throw you off, I guess stop watching it. Though I think you’ll miss out on some great character moments and some very well thought conflicts and morals which can challenge you in a good way.
I recommend not being superstitious about the Yin/Yang symbol. It is used in non-Christian religions, but that doesn't give it any special power or anything like that.
It's like the pentacle. Avatar is the perfect way to explain it. The 5 points represent the four elements and your own spirit. Most Christians see it as a devil mark but it is nothing like that at all, that all came from fear based tactics to scare the mass into following some dhole who says they give you free will but contradicts even that at its best. I use to be Christian and grew up around the religion but I never felt it in my heart that it was right for me since I was a kid and it hurts when people hate on me and say nasty things like hell crap because you know what? Even if I did come back I'd still not be able to fully except it in my heart And being so it would be wrong and disrespectful in fact I feel to pretend just for the sake of hope. I have many friends and family of many different beliefs and non beliefs and we have built so much love towards each other and non judgement even with our spiritual disagreements but then that also has me think if we can coexist here like that why would it be so horrible to think we could just be like that on the other side and I know these people love me very deeply I can feel it in my soul. These people deserve heaven because they used love not hate and condemnation because that is just evil because you are wishing intent on that person still in your heart and I should know I was once Christian like I said and I DID PAY ATTENTION! What is loving about wishing someone harm? I have been abused in every single way possible, verbally, physically, sensually and yes I am angry still but at the same time they no longer hurt me and I have a beautiful life I have built here for myself with beautiful people who I am damn proud to call family blood or not. Much love to you all darlings! Please be safe out there and most of all be well. 😘🤗
I’m no scientist. I’m just ordinary, average guy. But I tend to think that these experiences are not experiences of heaven or necessarily, even hell. Experiences that are somewhere between. Where they are in the realm more like purgatory. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be coming back. But that’s of my own humble opinion. I found the information quite interesting and I’ve read a number of books on the subject. I question if some of them are real or made up. I think some of the older versions maybe more true. The one thing after reading mini books on the subject is, there’s always a missing part of Catholic themes that we would recognize. I have not run into very many of these stories having known saints. or even biblical involved. Generally, it’s family members or people they don’t seem to recognize after they come back. Very few have I seen that have the Virgin Mary. Or any of the apostles. One of my fears is these people are going to a place that may is not what they think it is. as I know that Satan can appear as a being of light. How do we know these aren’t faults memories given to them to throw them off of Christianity. Because many people do not come back proclaiming that is scripture is accurate. Which I would expect out of most of these stories. And I’m sure I haven’t read all the stories that are out there. But it seems like there’s a lot of what I consider parts of scripture that should be connected. Which seems unconnected. Many of these people seem to go into a spiritual life, following the experience, but not really seeking after the Catholic faith.. or even speaking of a specific kind of denomination of Christian. Anyway I don’t know if the ads or takes away anything to what’s going on with these stories that’s where I’m at have looked at what these are about.
If it’s the devil deceiving people, to what end? Why is God permitting it? If someone is tricked and led astray, will God turn them away when they die, after having been deceived by the devil? No one chooses to be deceived, they are a victim of the one who deceived them. Just wondering how much you’ve thought this idea through to its logical conclusion(s).
NDE's do NOT mean everyone needs to take religion seriously.. Actually the reverse is true bc if there's one undeniable factor, it's that religions are more interested in increasing their power influence than understanding real spirituality
@martinmartin1363 @JimmyAkin It’s interesting thought of 3 Hells as Martiartin1363 mentions. I thought; however, Purgatory is NOT hell, it’s a “state or condition” and/or actually a part of heaven because these souls are being purified before entering heaven. Any thoughts to validate
Wouldn’t all souls need to go through purgatory first then? Is anyone pure enough to be in God’s presence in this world? And yet most reported NDEs seem to skip any purgatory whatsoever and just experience pure positivity. Many accounts don’t even mention Jesus or any specific religion, and declare things like everyone is loved unconditionally, no matter what they’ve done in life, which defeats the purpose of, or any need for, a purgatory or purification since God apparently accepts everyone as they are, according to many accounts. And he doesn’t judge anyone, but rather, people judge themselves. Which is also not quite biblical I don’t think.
