@@markusroth8770 I lost the pod for that model! (USS Farragut NCC-60597) More lately I've gotten the Eaglemoss USS Honshu NCC-60205... which is pretty nice. Still looking for the USS Princeton, now. And the ship's width is actually around 464 meters, I recall.
The Nebula is such a "TNG" style of ship. Such an awesome looking ship. I wish the TNG series had given us more ships like this one instead of the Excelsior and Oberth class ships.
The Nebula was always one of my favorite ships. I wish we had seen more of them and the Ambassador class in TNG instead of reusing ships from the previous century, I understand the production costs but it would have been nice to have seen.
Before the Enterprise D was destroyed, they avoided using Galaxy class ships, so as to not confuse Next Gen viewers, but to my mind that would have been a good reason to use more Ambassador class ships.
Ive always loved the Starfleet ships with the nacelles at the bottom/below the saucer. Miranda, Nebula, Cerritos, Parliament, Luna, and my beloved Akira. Even the silly looking Saladin class is actually kinda cute
My favourite ship in all of Trek.. the Nebula class. It's the Galaxy version of the Miranda (Reliant). And just as so the Reliant has more volume, firepower and workpower than the Constitution, as did the Nebula to the Galaxy. "Smaller" (in technical length) but more compact and compressed - it was actually a pretty much full "galaxy" minus the neck... except it also had the POD which makes up for the neck... Better shields, better manoeuvrability etc.
I think the role the Nebula had with it's sensor configuration is something similar to AWACS aircraft today. Coordinating data between aircraft and serving as a command and control node for a fleet. No wonder Admirals loved this ship. The Torpedo variant would pretty much make this ship the Federation's premiere gunship like an AC-130. If it was a hard target or expecting multiple capitol ships, this was your best pick.
With the Nebula in my eyes it was proven that Starfleet often used the same saucer disc design for different classes. The Constitution Class had the Constellation and Miranda Class, the Galaxy had the Nebula class - and the Oberth could be the upper section of a Daedalus-class (which would explain why Oberth-classes have three digit registries). Unfornatunally with the more streamlined classes Starfleet seem to have shifted from building the same saucer with a different engineering section to just shrinken the ship, the Nova thereby being the shrinked version of a Sovereign (explaining why the class is so sporadious with quality of life stuff like Holodecks, Nova was meant as a destroyer) and the Intrepid Class as a small version of the Prometheus (long range capable, having the newest holodeck technology, quite versatile). And yes, my head canon can be furthered by the fact, that the Nova came before the Sovereign and the Intrepid before the Prometheus, just like the Nebula came before the Galaxy. It just took Starfleet less time to build the smaller versions.
The Nebula class is one that I feel could have been explored more. Visually it seems like a version of the Galaxy class technology basis but is constructed in a way to make it more flexible and usefull in a military sense. The ability to switch out the mission pods suggests it was designed for easy and quick modification (at least in comparison to refitting a normal ship design). If you are in command of a body such as Starfleet and your governing body (the Federation) doesn't like you building warships, making 'exploritory vessels' that can be 'up-gunned' with the quick installation of a module (that ideally you can just keep in storage somewhere) makes a lot of sense - especially if you can forsee that you might be fighting a war fairly soon.
I always saw these ships as the 24th century analog to the Mirandas, just as the Galaxy class were to the Constitutions. Speaking of which - when are we going to get a dedicated video on the Constitution class?
The Nebula class is an awesome ship class. The short appearance at the Battle of Sector 001 alongside the Enterprise E shows that aside from the Akira there were other capital ships there rather than just destroyers and heavy destroyers or escorts. The Nebula class was a good compromise to the Galaxy Class space frame also. Alongside cruisers like the Excelsior a stable class for Starfleet
Named my Nebula on STO the USS Samaras, after the storm chasers Tim and Paul Samaras. Paul was an avid Star Trek fan, and played STO, and the work they were doing storm chasing was all about the science. I found it fitting for this class.
The Nebula my secret love ship. It's just an awesome looking thing. It is a good kitbash too and made Star Treks Federation Technology so much more believable to me. I played the Star Treck Card game and til i had any Galaxy's the Nebula's where the Backbone of my Decks. I really wanted to get one in STO on my first playthrough but i fell in the same categories as some of the hero ships and wasn't available for the tokens in others. Still some day i will go back to it.
I appreciate that the Nebula-class continues the Galaxy-class tradition of having an _obscenely_ low crew complement for a vessel of its scale. You'd think a ship capable of fitting multiple Gerald R. Ford-class supercarriers within its saucer alone would require more crew than what can fit inside a high-school auditorium.
Considering the ships' operations would be about 95% automated most likely, the need for a huge crew wouldn't have been there. Up to the Dominion War, the Galaxy/Nebula production line was a lesson in overkill. 🙂Of course; once they started being refitted for pure combat during the war, they became overkill again. In the later season of DS9, you see very few take significant damage in the battle scenes, but mangle the enemy ships they fire on.
I loved the Nebula Class as it had the rollbar pod for either sensors or hybrid sensors & photon torpedo launcher, then with its more compact shape, it would have slightly more resilient shields than the Galaxy Class. Lastly if it was outfitted with the long-lance phaser cannon seen on the Galaxy-X class, it would truly be a great all-around starship (IMO).
you basically turned your version into a warship, just need a large quantity of quantum torpedoes ,ablative armour then got yourself a long range tactical vessel that actually isn't cramped as he'll.
They are something that I can see having some sort of fleet role based on their large internal volume alone. Especially as they can do most of what a galaxy can too, with some tricks of it's own. Heck knows how they kept forgetting to put Impluse engines on things though.
I think the proto nebula may be designed to split and leave the smaller warp nacelles hanging off the back on a long outrigger hull section so they can be used on the saucer making both parts warp capable when spilt. such additional engines running off an auxiliary core can also be used to bolster shields, or allow the ship to extend it's range by switching between the two drive systems and not actually having to slow down to sublight to do maintenance = much like the Constellation and Prometheus class could do to some extent = I would presume though the proto nebula has two entire cores though making the warp capable saucer a bit more able to run away and turtle up when under attack though I can see it's max warp speed being kinda horrible without the main hull attached. I do think it may have larger cargo capacity in the saucer than the Galaxy too, which may be why it lacks some window rows... thought that could also perhaps be extended shuttle bay space too.
I have always loved the Nebula class ship. When I was a kid my brother paid me to get an extra Enterprise D model kit and customize it into the USS Phoenix
I always thought the Nebulas were intended to be an evolution/replacement of the Miranda hulls. Same role and mission scope, just with the latest tech.
I love how you explain in detail the origin of every ship. With every instance, the St lore feels even more massive +, wish we had more lore on species that were not well explored in the shows
The Nebula was always my favorite TNG ship. When I played STO, I created an all Vulcan crew, right down to the doffs. This was in keeping with the Nebula being an exploration/science vessel.
I’ve always had a soft spot for these more compact variations of the long distance cruisers. Despite the deflector dish being more like the original design rather than the finished product, the Luna clearly fills that role for the Sovereign class. Something about being compact and beefy always makes me love them, even though of course the long necks and sweeping nacelles look more cinematic for a hero ship.
I always thought maybe the extra nacelles were connected to the saucer section. So it was an early attempt at the Prometheus multi vector craft, where the star drive and the saucer had warp capabilities. But they found it too cumbersome, having two warp cores, needing two engineering teams, reconnecting after separation, etc so it was eventually swapped out permanently for the pods.
They could have left the warp nacelle attached to the specific Mission pods and stated it was so Starfleet could send them out to Rendezvous with the different ships rather than having them come back to a star base or Shipyard that would have been believable
The Nebula has always been one of my favorite ship design along with the Ambassador and Constitution Refit. I always struggle with which of the 3 I love the most.
I always thought it to be odd to see the single huge pylon for the 'heart shaped' weapons pod to be right in front of the main shuttle bay doors, the one behind the bridge.
I always thought the one with the extra little warp nacelles was a detachable ship similar to some Vulcan ships. My head canon. Very good video, nice multipurpose ship!
Nebula class was better than the Ambassador class and even better than the Galaxy class! Compact but powerful, I liked it! tied for 2nd (IMO) to the Excelsior class. My favorite vessel, the Sovereign class! Thanks for the video.
It was also purposefully gimped in its capabilities as not to steal any glory from the star of the show, portrayed as being slower and less capable without any real reason other than "Galaxy's better!". We know it was thrown together from Galaxy parts in the model shop and therefore with so many identical shared parts that translated into a very Galaxyesk looking ship on the show, there's just no getting around the fact that if these were a real scenario then surely both ships were designed in tandem around the same period with slight role variables but that overall for the sake of logistics and ease of construction that warp cores and engines and phaser types etc be identical and therefore the performance would also be extremely similar with perhaps the more compact Nebula being arguably more nimble and having to generate a more compact shield bubble too, while the addition of a tactical pod would also give it notably more punch than even a Galaxy. To suggest the Nebula would have an inferior saucer section detachable and reattachment is again, purposefully fabricating bs scenarios to make the Galaxy seem better as not to steal any thunder from the superstar of the show. In a technologically advanced future scenario, detaching and reattaching a saucer would not be problem at all. Achieving a warp drive however, that might be 😂
In my imagination, I'd always thought of the 4 nacelles version of the Nebula as being either having a higher maximum warp, or able to sustain maximum warp for much longer. I think that'd be really cool fir high speed emergency responses, be it natural disasters, or border incursions. I also have a further fantasy that some dicking pads be put on dorsal surface so you can dock 2 to 4 defiant class ships on it, acting like defiant carrier, in addition to everything else 😀 Hey, it's my imagination, I'll imagine what I want, dammit 😀
I read somewhere, years ago, that the secondary hull was all it was originally and it was meant to be a tug for stranded saucers of Galaxy Class ships. They would be stationed at space docks for emergencies. The eventually assigned them their own saucers, probably when the Enterprise had its first run in with the Borg.
The Nebula is one of my early TNG favorites. While less slick and streamlined looking than the Galaxy to me it looked tougher and more utilitarian. Also I searched for and couldn't find this, but have you done one of these videos on the Excelsior Refit? I would be very interested to see your breakdown on it.
I do love when Starfleet makes paired ship classes. Constitution and Miranda, Galaxy and Nebula, I want to say Sovereign and Luna, but I also feel like it should be Sovereign and Akira. Starfleet ship lineages are the best, and give a sense of history and continuity.
Great episode! I'm always amazed at the knowledge and detail you include in your videos. I do have to admit that I always hear the theme music from Buckaroo Banzai whenever I hear the name Yoyodyne.
In the video game Star Trek the Next Generation: Birth of the Federation, it has the Nebula class as a "dreadnought" type, or siege ship/ torpedo boat (although in game, it's actual designation says its "long range support ship") I always used it to "liberate" hostile takeover planets the other powers took, as well as to batter foes from afar with its 6 torpedo launchers. It was a formidable craft and a mainstay in a fleet.
With the way Starfleet ships are so mix-and-match, many like the Nebula originating in kit-bashing, I'm surprised toys exploiting this play pattern aren't a thing.
Back in the Golden Age, Starfleet should have had the Sensor pod variant as a "wingman" for the Galaxy Class, instead of sending Galaxy Class ships out on their own. Both ships together would have been far more than twice as effective as each ship by itself, and had a greater survival rate.
The Nebula class always seemed like the logical outgrowth of the Miranda class (which later had me mystified as to why there were *so* *many* Mirandas around during the Dominion War 😂), which by that point would have *badly* needed upgrading. Not exactly in my top ten favorite ship classes, but perfectly serviceable. Though, speaking of kit bashed ships made from Galaxy parts, is there enough information out there about the New Orleans class to flesh out a ship breakdown? 🙂
There were so many Miranda-classes, because between 2240 and 2280 Starfleet only build one type of saucer section. And as Mirandas normally had simple tasks to do, they weren't destroyed as frequently as Constitution class ships = they had many of them still on duty in the 2370s, most likely for flying people from one system to another, monitoring stars without inhabitated planets etc (you don't want to monitor a star from another solar system, when you have the chance to just fly there, as you then get rid of this year long delay. Imagine you have a star that is on the bring of becoming a supernova - even with the distance Earth - Alpha Centauri you would only get the data 4 years after it happened. When you have a Miranda class laying around the star just waiting for the bang to happen, you get the data immediately.) So when the Dominion war hit, they just ordered these old ships into the yards, modernized the phasers and torpedoes and send them into battle with a skeleton crew to not loose too many officers.
He said it so fast I almost missed it...the warp cores were constructed by Yoyodyne (possibly under the direction of John Bigbooté). Those tricky Red Lectroids...still looking for the overthuster!
I wish I could remember where I saw this. However there was an article from around 1997 that said that the original idea for the nebula clas was to pick up the saucer sections of galaxy class ships that lost their star drives. After best of both worlds aired CBS wanted a modern Miranda class so the design team used the idea of the nebula class and gave it the galaxy class saucer.
I always saw this as the ST:TNG heavy-cruiser version of the Miranda Class, a modular, easily-modified starship with an infinite number of roles it can do. The one with the extreme top-speed, the extra nacelle one... also, that could be part of the saucer separation to get potentially rescued/civilians warped away and back home. That would make the rest of the ship pretty much a sacrifice, seeing how most of the weapons would be on the saucer. This could also be how they perfected the Galaxy Class's saucer section. When the Constitution is replaced by the Galaxy, the Miranda is replaced by the Nebula.
It might have been interesting if Starfleet had repurposed the sensor "mini-saucer" module as an unmanned probe? The Shuttlecraft of the day were warp-capable, so a simple drive "transplant" might have produced a very useful, relatively low-cost fully autonomous long range early warning system. This would appear to be in line with Starfleet's tendency to stretch useful ship life to the maximum, and would certainly be an interesting element from a series viewpoint.
