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Neelix informs the crew that Tom Paris may be a traitor 

April 5, 2063
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Star Trek Voyager Season 2 Episode 20 Investigations

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@tred6292
@tred6292 7 месяцев назад
I think Neelix was wrong to just announce to the crew that Tom was a spy without consulting the Captain first. This is a Starship not a small town. If someone onboard believes someone in the crew is exhibiting suspicious behavior, then that has to be reported to the Captain, not broadcasted to the whole crew.
@eliseives9574
@eliseives9574 7 месяцев назад
I agree. I would think that that would be his first reaction- go to the captain. However, him having his own show does make sense that he would want to use it as a platform to voice his surprise, disgust, and upset at the situation.
@Bobsmith-xq2pr
@Bobsmith-xq2pr 7 месяцев назад
Wasn't the end of this episode a whole setup? Tom Paris was never a traitor, and it was all a long con? I always thought the ending was kinda cheap tbh
@HanithSVK
@HanithSVK 7 месяцев назад
@@eliseives9574 Not so sure about it. I mean sure, for us, viewers and for the people that were trained for the duty by Starfleet(or even Maquis) it would be your first impulse. But Neelix had no training whatsoever. He did not know protocols, he did not have any experience being part of the crew before meeting Voyager. Although one would think that after Seska, they would brief all personnel on the spy protocols. + It could've been his way to get back at Tom. If i am not wrong, this was around the time when Neelix got jealous of Tom and Kess spending too much time together. I would not be surprised if, at that moment, his emotions were in charge, not his brain. Sometimes, when people you are close to, pull some unexpected sh*t, it may affect you in a bad way. And, although i am not 100% sure, he had never pulled stunt like this again. After this point, he always went to either Tuvok or Janeway to confirm anything that he found irregular. Many times it was nothing important, but he did have a few more moments where he shinned.
@Locutus494
@Locutus494 7 месяцев назад
@@Bobsmith-xq2pr Yes, it was a setup (as they discussed in this clip), and Neelix doing this helped sell Paris' "performance" (as Janeway says here), which is why Janeway didn't come down hard on him for not consulting her first.
@Bobsmith-xq2pr
@Bobsmith-xq2pr 7 месяцев назад
@@Locutus494 I wrote my comment before I watched the clip, lmao
@evertonporter7887
@evertonporter7887 4 месяца назад
Sisko, "Ensign, SWITCH THAT THING OFF!"
@davidbgreensmith
@davidbgreensmith 7 месяцев назад
I know that a lot of people found Neelix to be irritating comic relief, but there are episodes in which the true depth of his character shone through.
@boybawang1981
@boybawang1981 7 месяцев назад
Fake news!!
@markmiller3713
@markmiller3713 7 месяцев назад
Irritating, yes, comedy, no.
@thegrimmretails3777
@thegrimmretails3777 7 месяцев назад
You mean when he's a shit head?
@markplautz6842
@markplautz6842 7 месяцев назад
Thanks! There are quite a few episodes that I’ve forgotten about.
@randomrazr
@randomrazr 7 месяцев назад
this was a glimpse of the future of hte internet in 1996....and social media....
@123RADIOactive
@123RADIOactive 7 месяцев назад
One of those moments where it proves Neelix isn’t as annoying as some people claimed.
@youtube.commentator
@youtube.commentator 7 месяцев назад
He is pretty annoying though tbqh
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days 7 месяцев назад
The show isn’t the same without him, truth be told
@ReaverLordTonus
@ReaverLordTonus 7 месяцев назад
Still kind of stupid to just broadcast all that without going to the captain first.
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days 7 месяцев назад
@@ReaverLordTonus It was Harry Kim who told Neelix about his time as a journalist in school or the academy, and told him that it was a journalist’s duty to uncover the truth. If you watch the episode, Neelix’s decision, albeit a bit of a reckless one, makes more sense.
@ReaverLordTonus
@ReaverLordTonus 7 месяцев назад
@@teleportedbreadfor3days I get that and remember that bit. The problem is they aren't in a school, it's still a starship and there is a command structure to adhere to. Just think he should have gone to Janeway first to tell her before he told the whole crew, she probably would have let them know regardless.
@Saiyanprince1114
@Saiyanprince1114 7 месяцев назад
Janeway looked at that broadcast and said " _Hell_ nah. I wanted puff pieces, not exposés. Cut the feed."
@AndrewChapman
@AndrewChapman 6 месяцев назад
So wait, Tom's behaviour towards the crew and leaving Voyager was all a ruse to get him on the Kazon ship and find out who the spy was. But what about the Talaxian ship Tom left to join, only to be attacked by the Kazon? Were the Talaxians also in on the plan and allowed themselves to be attacked so the Kazon could kidnap Tom and get him on their ship?
@christopherwall2121
@christopherwall2121 7 месяцев назад
Y'know, on a smarter show, that implied distrust and friction between the Starfleet and Maquis onboard would have been a constant issue.
@HanithSVK
@HanithSVK 7 месяцев назад
Being forced to live together for unknown period of time, possibly rest of their lives? What good would grudges do?? At this point, they had like 70 years of travel to Alpha Quadrant, most of them would never see it again. So what for? Whatever happens to Maquis or Starfleet, they cannot do 2 sh*ts about it. Not to mention that both sides declared ALL OF THEM dead after 2 years of no contact. So they either could pull their sh*t together and cooperate on their journey AND they may have chance, however small, to eventually get back to Alpha Quadrant OR they could just give up, find M-Class planet and scrap Voyager for resources, because neither side had enough people to even attempt that journey alone.
@almightyk11
@almightyk11 7 месяцев назад
Cultural conflict, limited resources, trade with locals, establishing allies, minimising combat. All factors in the first episode.
@jamesboulger8705
@jamesboulger8705 7 месяцев назад
This is the number one complaint about the show. Star trek after TNG added little twists that found clever ways to bend without breaking the rules set down by Roddenberry that would create interesting drama. Voyager is not bad, but it was considered the worst of the franchises for this reason - it didnt follow through with its premises. The writing team just didnt do the work mapping a scaffold storyline that utilized that tension. Putting them in starfleet uniforms was considered the first mistake. Imagine how hard-core this show would have been with two factions on board forced to work together in the middle of nowhere Its such a good story, but it needed a writing staff up to the challenge. It would involve intense intership conflict spiced with external threats. It makes for a hell of a roleplaying campaign for sure.
@DEC19775
@DEC19775 7 месяцев назад
Was it was the spy suder
@helixspiral
@helixspiral 7 месяцев назад
No. It was Jonas.
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