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Nest dual zone installation - how to install 2 Nest thermostats on a heating system 

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In this video I show you how to install (including full wiring) two 3rd Generation Nest self-learning thermostats on a dual zone heating systems including for systems with combi boilers, heat only boilers and system boilers with hot water cylinders.
00:12 - Intro to Nest installation on a dual zone heating system
01:00 - Multizone system explanation
04:10 - Safe Isolation
04:35 - Removal of existing components and how to trace wiring
07:15 - Nest thermostat bases installation
08:03 - Heat Link installation and wiring
15:50 - Testing and set up
Schematics to my set up will be posted in due time on my web site here:
www.urbanplumbers.co.uk/
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@Sergiulik
@Sergiulik Год назад
This video was amazingly useful!!! It helped me save a couple of hundred quid for the installation. Many thanks! My dual zone nests work perfectly!
@jenningsheatingplumbing2353
@jenningsheatingplumbing2353 2 года назад
I love your videos. They break everything down so clearly. I actually feel confident trying it myself now instead of leaving it to my sparky.
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 2 года назад
I would never let a sparky wire my controls !
@jamalmustafa225
@jamalmustafa225 3 года назад
Awesome video, thank you. I fully installed myself, followed each step and no issues thanks to you
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Great to hear!
@truthwillout7909
@truthwillout7909 Год назад
Best video on dual heating system I’ve found. Thank you.
@monki77
@monki77 2 года назад
Thank you for this video! Your clear instructions enabled me to fit 2 Nests which I've been putting off for months because I had no idea how my new home/boiler was setup. Wish I'd found your video earlier 😄
@bradshoesmith5084
@bradshoesmith5084 Год назад
I also have a new build but have issues of no power to the thermostat. Works fine when I plug it into the wall. I have a combi boiler with 2 zones heating only. Only fitting nest to down stairs zone
@monki77
@monki77 Год назад
@@bradshoesmith5084 So the Nest thermostat's USB plug powers it fine? But when you use the 2 wires into the back instead that come from the boiler it doesn't power it?
@avfczoff
@avfczoff Год назад
Excellent video & very clear. Thank you 👍🏻
@daz4643
@daz4643 2 года назад
Thanks for the video, mine has 2 thermostat controls (Danfoss TP5000) with 4 wires each. 1 Earth 1 Live 1 Neutral 1 Switched. The switched went from terminal 3 on the nest to Brown on the valve like you said. Thanks. 👍🏻
@LeeLee-xt5uy
@LeeLee-xt5uy 2 года назад
fantastic video. thanks. I'm a heating engineer and never installed a nest. they look good quality products. very well explained. Good job.
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 2 года назад
google is dropping nest sadly - no support after 2025
@karthikeyannatarajan5897
@karthikeyannatarajan5897 4 года назад
Awesome video mate, thank you
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@sandybumscalandar266
@sandybumscalandar266 4 года назад
Great video, clear and concise.....well done and thanks!! One point to note for those doing this for the first time: I had an issue with the hot water always being on and after research found that the Bacterial Prevention setting was on, which turns the hot water on if it hasn’t been on for a while. Obviously on a new install it thinks it hasn’t been on for a while. I turned this off and it works fine now!! A note to anyone having the same issue!!
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Yes I got fought out on this too in the past
@kencheung977
@kencheung977 2 года назад
I did it without this video but this video is so comprehensive. I understand what I did now!
@paulgriffin7049
@paulgriffin7049 8 месяцев назад
Excellent very clear and useful guide, thanks
@sajid334
@sajid334 3 года назад
So easy and perfectly explained. Subscribed to your channel.
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Good man! Thanks
@martybo1979
@martybo1979 10 месяцев назад
Installing my dual zone heating set up was so easy thanks to your vide. Thanks buddy it would have been a lot more stressful without this.
@adriatikqypi9356
@adriatikqypi9356 4 года назад
Great video well done 👍
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 4 года назад
Adriatik qypi thanks!
@jonunwin2780
@jonunwin2780 4 года назад
Absolutely fantastic video. Very clear and looks easy to follow. I've switched Combi boiler single zone thermostats before but I'm buying a house with a system boiler and 2 zone. Thanks for explaining clearly. It'll save me a lot of working out
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Thank you
@AnmolSingh-yj2rp
@AnmolSingh-yj2rp 2 года назад
Hi ur videos r very helpful i learn a lot form ur videos thanks u r doing a great job
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 2 года назад
You are welcome
@KONAMAN100
@KONAMAN100 3 года назад
now I know I'd definitely get someone competent in to do a Nest!
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
yes it does take a bit of work and understanding of heating systems to install them! Not plug and play at all.
@MrManj04
@MrManj04 6 месяцев назад
Enjoyed learnt happy thanks
@Cosmintube
@Cosmintube 3 года назад
Can the secondary nest control the boiler through the first one, without connecting them both throug wire?
@andrewsalmon100
@andrewsalmon100 4 года назад
Thanks for explaining the jumper links from active to common. I had assumed that that link would be made inside the unit. No matter. My question concerns inslab wired heating. Will I use connections 2 and 3? I explain to myself that the nest thermostat will stop and start the power via the heat link's relay. So many questions.
@bigtonka30
@bigtonka30 3 года назад
Brilliant video! Everything was explained perfectly. I do have 1 question though, I have a combi boiler with no water tank and a dual heating system. The boiler has a black and a grey wire which I have traced back to the zone 1 controller. Do I completely disconnect these 2 wires and put a link wire between the terminals? They are labelled on the boiler as ‘room stat/timer’. I have read the manual for the boiler and it looks like there is a link wire between the terminals from the factory.
@alryan37
@alryan37 2 года назад
Great video, very informative. When using a nest on a three zone system ie, downstairs, upstairs and Hot water , can you control Hot water from both of the thermostats or only one of them.
@philralls3316
@philralls3316 3 года назад
thanks for this video and both S and Y videos, I am trying to figure out installation of nest 3rd gen with District heating, I have two thermostats for heating (one upstairs and one downstairs), the District Heating boiler in the garage with froststrat, and upstair a wiring board with two valves in the airring cupboard, would be great to get some advice or which video to follow
@johnspallen3132
@johnspallen3132 4 месяца назад
Simon what knowledge ❤
@andrewmorris3441
@andrewmorris3441 3 года назад
thanks for this video! managed to get my 2 zone nest system set up and running in a few hours, it would have been faster if the terminals weren't so small!!!
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Great to hear!
@funkypotamus
@funkypotamus 4 года назад
Brilliant, thanks.
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 4 года назад
Glad you liked it!
@patrickmaloney4125
@patrickmaloney4125 Год назад
Great video with a follow up question: How to best to connect a Nest 3rd gen to Zone 1 (boiler) and A/C system (furnace in house is used exlusively for cooling). Seems somewhat obvious, however, just wanted to verify that I am not over looking a potential problem.
@peterschraml1380
@peterschraml1380 3 года назад
Thanks great tutorial saved me 80 quite.
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Buy me beer!!!!
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Agggrrhhh - no alcohol takeaway available anyway ;£
@jps4101
@jps4101 2 года назад
Hi, brilliant video! If using a combi boiler and wanted to zone just the towel rail could I use the hot water as the zone for the towel rail and just have no thermostat on it? Meaning I’d just need the one nest.
@ivanka2090
@ivanka2090 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for a video. Which valves would you recommend for multi-zone Nest heating setup?
@simonelson7043
@simonelson7043 4 месяца назад
Hello. Many thanks for the video and the explanation. Tell me. Is it possible to have two nest thermostats connected to a a single heatlink on a combination boiler. ?
@Star-dr4sv
@Star-dr4sv Год назад
Fantastic thanks a lot 🙏 you save my life Wished you would have put both nest thermostat on to see if the light came on If it was combi boiler then it would have been bingo
@GarryWebster
@GarryWebster 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this video, ive liked and subscribed - really helpful. Just one quick question - if ive mixed up the Nest with the valves is it just a case of swapping the wires from terminal 3 to the brown wires in the wiring system? thanks again
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Yes that’s it
@yankogeorgiev6781
@yankogeorgiev6781 3 года назад
thanks,very helpful
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Glad it helped
@ashleyday1857
@ashleyday1857 4 месяца назад
Excellent video. Could you please tell me what make/model of wiring centre that is? Thank you
@marklove8410
@marklove8410 Год назад
Great video. Thanks. 1 question. I have this set up but the thermostat that controls heating and water is also connecting wirelessly to the second heat link and is therefore activating both heating zones. Is there a way of stopping it connecting to the 2nd heat link?
@johnspallen3132
@johnspallen3132 4 месяца назад
What skill ❤
@murderous1979ify
@murderous1979ify 3 года назад
Hi I followed your tutorial on a 2 zone and cylinder system boiler and I get error code e4 on nest thermostat,any ideas? Thanks
@RakeshPatel-yy9dk
@RakeshPatel-yy9dk Год назад
Hello, great video! I have 3 wirless thermostats for three zoned floors - am i correct in thinking that I could add an extra heat link for the 3rd zone and use thermostat stand to satisfy my requirements - do you see any issues with this?
@csealby
@csealby 2 года назад
Great video, thank you, I have a 2 zone combi boiler, I’ve looked in my wiring panel and I have the live - neutral - earth from both valves, but I only seem to have 1 live and neutral coming in for the programmers ? Is this normal? I can’t seem to add a photo to show it. Thanks in advance, Carl
@garrettireland
@garrettireland Год назад
HI, great video. Im looking to do a fresh install, would you know where I can get a diagram to start from scratch?
@monkeysfunk
@monkeysfunk 3 года назад
Great video, thank yoi
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Cheers
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Thanks
@mazhariqbal3630
@mazhariqbal3630 3 года назад
Thank you for dual zones wiring installation videos, I would appreciate it if you could upload a video for an underfloor wiring center and nest thermostat installation for radiators to combi boiler.
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
That would be tricky - as there is too many variations of UFH wiring centres and ways to wire the system. It would be much better if I did a video explaining principles of controls so if you learn it you can then wire any system.
@mazhariqbal3630
@mazhariqbal3630 3 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers I am in the process of wiring Aura underfloor heating wiring centre and nest for radiators, boiler make is Baxi platinum 40kw. Underfloor heating wiring centre has only switch wires which need to be connected somewhere to trigger the boiler, we also need to have an additional nest system working independently for radiators. Not sure how both are going to work independently.
@jawadashraf2732
@jawadashraf2732 2 года назад
hi, could you please explain if i have a system boiler with 4 zones, how do i set it up. Which thermostate would be setup as system and which as combi? Thanks.
@avfczoff
@avfczoff Год назад
Would it be easier to wire a 5 core flex to the heat link from the wiring centre? Then you’d a neutral connection, L connection, 2 can be joined with permanent live in the wiring centre, 3 can be joined to the brown of zone valve & earth connection connected up. Would that be an easier option instead of installing a link between L & terminal 2? The cable connection points are so small it’s difficult to get two cables in
@TheMull46
@TheMull46 2 года назад
Hi great video and very easy to follow! I’ve one question can the hot water circuit be wired without the cylinder stat in place ..as in just open and close the hot water valve? Getting cables to the cylinder is near impossible for a cylinder stat…thanks again for such a great video
@11982463
@11982463 11 месяцев назад
then how does boiler know when cylinder water is up to temperature, for example 60 degrees. you cant be turning it off manually everytime
@johnnybravo9087
@johnnybravo9087 Год назад
Nice vid. Question: my hot water is totally separate system. So can I use the 4/5/6 outputs to control second heating zone with temperature read from room sensor? So I will then only need to buy one nest/heatlink to control two heating zones?
@ReshamKainth
@ReshamKainth Год назад
Great video! Is it possible to utilise 2 nests and heatlinks with opentherm?
@timking4999
@timking4999 2 года назад
Hi I have a two zone system with system boiler but I have two system programmers only one wireless thermostat the other rads in zone 1 run off thermostatic valves presumably I'll remove both programmers and replace with two heat links as long as I set one up as combi boiler and the other with the hot water as a system boiler going through the cylinder thermostat that would work?
@northeastcorals
@northeastcorals Год назад
1st class content
@7dayplumbingservices195
@7dayplumbingservices195 3 года назад
great video , thanks . I have 3 to fit in a biiiig house one for hot water and downstairs one for the second floor and one for the gym..... .is it the same principal for 2 or 3 nest ?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
yes same thing
@mbennett979
@mbennett979 3 года назад
Hi great video. If I have a two zone heating + HW and I only want to replace the downstairs zone with a nest I would have to leave the existing programmer in place for the other zone? HW could either stay or be moved to the nest?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Up would move all to next and keep programmer just for heating 1 zone
@11982463
@11982463 11 месяцев назад
hi, what happens to the HOT WATER OFF cable from cylinder stat? thanks
@suzannewatt8767
@suzannewatt8767 7 месяцев назад
If we have two zone programmable thermostats and a combi boiler (new build) Do we need to install 2x Nest heat-links or can we simply remove old programmable thermostats and fit 2 new Nest thermostats using the same wiring?
@satishmistry9153
@satishmistry9153 2 года назад
Little confused by last step in wiring process with regards to switch from water tank, can you advise further with clarity please.
@qaysarakbar492
@qaysarakbar492 2 года назад
Good video mate.. really excellent presentation. Can you do a video of how you set up your test rig please.. that would be so cool. Thank you
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 2 года назад
thanks, not sure I have time to do that.
@markobrien7273
@markobrien7273 2 года назад
Brilliant video, I have done my best to follow it but am struggling with the power supply to the boiler. Does the boiler get a permanent power supply? Not sure how the nest controls the boiler??
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 2 года назад
I do not cover any connections to the boiler on purpose as this requires gas safe registration
@AB-kd1op
@AB-kd1op 6 месяцев назад
Hi, is there a wiring diagram for this entire setup? Can someone send me a link to it if there is please? Thank you🙂
@jorose8486
@jorose8486 2 года назад
Very good
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 2 года назад
Thanks
@gickmaster93
@gickmaster93 3 года назад
Great video, my system has 2 standard thermostats which control each zone, I get that these are replaced by the nest thermostat. But I also have a programmer thermostat that can control both zones and the hot water. Does anything need to be down with this programmer ?
@MTGAngelsKing
@MTGAngelsKing 3 года назад
I'm in the same situation, I think I will follow this other video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jfIo93FtGbQ.html for Zone 1 and HW then use this one for zone 2.
@bjornjoseph
@bjornjoseph 2 года назад
I have 2 air handlers and 3 thermostats.... do I need 3 nest thermostats
@emilh8231
@emilh8231 3 года назад
Thanks for video. Explained in all details how to wire up and make that work. I just wanted to ask, does Nest prioritises hot water first? For example if there is call for DHW on 2nd Nest, and call for heat on Nest nr1, will both zone valves be open, or Nest's communicate together and prioritises hot water first until it is satisfied And only then opens zone valve for heating? I am going to install the system with unvented cylinder and 2 zones, (radiators and underfloor heating), and I have chosen Nest over Evo Home from Honeywell as it looks more modern and user friendly, but I am afraid that heating will work same time with DHW and will take ages to heat up the water. Thank you
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
It’s not down to nest to do DHWP, you need it set up your heating system for that and yes Nest can be used for DHWP
@emilh8231
@emilh8231 3 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers Thanks 🙏
@danemy3989
@danemy3989 Год назад
Hello, very good video.I have a question, can you control the 2 zone heating (downstairs and upstairs) and External hot water tank without having installed 2port zone?instead I have a Dab pump on each zone which has only 3 wires. Can the nest thermostat control the pumps independently and tell the boiler when to stop? What diagram should I follow form the booklet nest thermostat? Thank you!
@danemy3989
@danemy3989 Год назад
Also forgot to mention the external boiler has like a sensor that reads the temperature, is that acting I presume like a thermostat?
@robeaton2191
@robeaton2191 2 года назад
Has anyone had problems adding 2 stats ( Nest gen 3 and Nest thermostat E) to the same home account. Mine just comes up with a fault code, only way to do it is open second home account on the app and add second stat. Not ideal but only way I could get it to work.
@saidhissoufi277
@saidhissoufi277 2 года назад
Thank you for the video. I am currently studying ACS. I created a board like yours. I managed to wire S plan. And Y plan. Do you have wiring diagram for the two heating zones and hot water? Thank you again for your video
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 2 года назад
if you know how to wire S plan then you dont need a diagram for S plan +. It the same as S plan plus 1 zone valve. You can figure it out based on standard S plan
@saidhissoufi277
@saidhissoufi277 2 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers OK I see so the zone valve supplies the hot water and the heating is controlled by a programmable thermostat. Thank you
@craige101
@craige101 4 года назад
Hi Can you have multi zone open therm if you boiler is compatible If so would both heat links run wires from OT 1 and 2 up into the boiler and connect to the same place Thanks
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 4 года назад
No you cannot. At the moment Nest can only do OT on one zone, one Nest.
@x2dazee389
@x2dazee389 4 года назад
Hi great video I am in the process of sourcing a system boiler and hot water cylinder tank for a zoned system of 2 heating zones underfloor heating i believe its two zone In the video you mention open therm doesn't work with system boilers I was looking at opentherm in particular as I understand this would allow better control of the hot water cylinder ? And boiler Is this definitely not possible so wouldn recommend not searching for an open therm boiler and cylinder Or would it make sense to get an opentherm cylinder and connect the ot terminals from one of the heat links to this in addition to whatever heating zone its controlling seems honeywell evo therm is the one solution but quick glance that has limitations too
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 4 года назад
Multizone OT with nest is not possible. It is the boiler that is OT, cylinders do not matter
@mawilliams1979
@mawilliams1979 3 года назад
Thank you for all the videos ive watched a few of them, i have a very similar setup however im having trouble getting the second thermostat to fire the boiler up. Its an S Plan Plus setup with 3 vales, Water, Zone1 (downstairs), Zone2 (upstairs) Zone 1 & Water are controlled by a Nest 3rd gen, its wired exactly as you example with the jumpers from L to 2 and 2 to 5, it works perfectly for heating and Water. Zone2 was controlled by a Danfoss Tp5000 and the upstairs radiators only got warm if Zone1 was also on, regardless of the upstairs temp. I have just replaced Danfoss that controls Zone2 with a Nest Thermostat E, as i thought this would be fine for heat only. However im still having the same issue, the boiler doesnt fire up unless Zone1 is activated... then the whole house is heated up. Any thoughts greatly welcome :)
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Can't really comment without being able to see the system
@mawilliams1979
@mawilliams1979 3 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers not a problem, after checking the wiring I think the 2 port valve has failed. Thanks for the all the useful information 😊
@leonardluther3375
@leonardluther3375 3 года назад
Hello, great video. I have a two zone (up/down stairs) combi boiler set up. I have two Nest thermostats which I’d like to install. Can I have downstairs (zone 1) wired to opentherm and upstairs (zone 2) wired to standard on/off? Also if you know, why can you not have a two zone opentherm set up? Many thanks in advance.
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Leonard Luther unfortunatley you can’t do that, no OT on multizone available at the moment as far as I am aware
@leonardluther3375
@leonardluther3375 3 года назад
Urban Plumbers then I will follow your set up, thanks again.
@darrenfitzgerald2195
@darrenfitzgerald2195 Год назад
I have a single programmer that currently can turn on upstairs, downstairs and hot water independently. Is it possible to mimic this with a single nest link or will I need two?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers Год назад
You will need 2 nests
@ApplesnCastles
@ApplesnCastles Год назад
A note of sincere thanks for this video, I installed 2 x Nests in a heat-only system / boiler dual zone home (done several Gen1's with Combi's in the past w/o issue - system boilers are more involved). 1st main stat was a doddle thanks to the video, with 2nd zone one, though technically simpler than the 1st, taking longer as the 2nd clock was battery operated (no mains) so I needed to rethink the heatsink locale (where I'd pre-planned & agreed it) - just as per one of the examples in the video but needed to utilise 2 wires therein for the 12v nest p/s & which were not in terminals that I expected (expected common to be live and switched to be o/c but it was the other way around - but this didn't really make any difference to the install once I'd traced them in the wiring junction box to re-purpose & then took wires off from there to the new heatsink locale. Of course, I discovered other unrelated issues with the system (no pressure, rad's that needed bleeding - but without pressure, they didn't bleed well of course; loss of pressure was 2 poss 3 rads which had leaked in the past & so didn't want to normalise pressure until the rads leaks had been resolved (as under higher/normal pressure, the rad's would continue to leak - they may well do when they warm up anyway. The system also needs balancing too as at one point when pressure was normal & apparently no bleeding required then, 2 rads remained cold on full tilt / try's open etc & in the same zone. Anyway, the Nests are working a treat and this video helped me get it straight in my head before I opened the nest boxes - so a million thanks. I have my own home to do soon - which I think is a similar set-up so again thanks for that too!
@ezptrain
@ezptrain 3 года назад
Great instruction. Thank you. Two question I have. In this setup when there be a demand for heat from both nests how two volves will open and the will be double signal to turn on the boiler. Will that hurt my boiler? 2nd Question. You said that OT will not work with 2 zone system. Ok. But what do I lose without OT functionality? Thank you for your answers.
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
No problem with 2 switched lives from to ZN - it will not hurt your boiler. Yes you loose OT on Nest multizone. If you want OT you need to use different controls for multi zone. Get someone in to do it for you if you are not 100% sure how the 230V switching works.
@ezptrain
@ezptrain 3 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers thanks for day response! Appreciated! Wrt to OT what does this gives? Will I lose much of not having it?
@Pecet29
@Pecet29 3 года назад
Can you recommend some other solution which work with opentherm in two zones?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Paweł Ciężarkiewicz honeywell will work with OT multizone
@Pecet29
@Pecet29 3 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers you mean 2x Honeywell T6R? What about hot water then? T6R-HW + T6R
@ahoyskid
@ahoyskid 9 месяцев назад
It’s crazy that nest still doesn’t have a dual zone (ground & 1st floor) plus hot water. 3 output units yet.
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 9 месяцев назад
Best has been dropped by google. No more development is planned
@ahoyskid
@ahoyskid 9 месяцев назад
@@UrbanPlumbersThanks for sharing your advice & knowledge is very helpful! You mentioned at the start of the video about doing an UFH video in the future? Did you create that video? what do personally recommend for a dual zone plus water, gas fed via Ideal Logic IE boiler - Underfloor heating? Dual manifold with stats in in each room. I would like to control the boiler, water timer and floor heating master control as each room is controlled by fairly nice, touch screen stats in each room.
@AB-kd1op
@AB-kd1op 6 месяцев назад
Can someone reply to this comment with a link to the wiring diagram for this setup please? Thank You
@neiljackson7914
@neiljackson7914 2 года назад
Hi , would u wire up the same on hive dual zone but without the 12v feed going to the thermostats , thanks
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 2 года назад
No, hive is a little bit different. Ito is actually easier to wire
@waynenixon729
@waynenixon729 4 года назад
If you had a dedicated pump for each heating zone, say a under floor heating circuit on the ground floor and a radiator circuit up stairs, would you connect the feed to turn on the pump to the orange of the motorized valve for that heating circuit? So as the zone valve opened and power was sent on the orange wire to bring on the boiler it would also turn on the pump for that circuit.
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 4 года назад
Wayne Nixon it depends on the boiler. Some heat only boilers need a pump overrun and are controlled by the boiler. If the boiler only needs Sl and N the. Yes you can do that
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 4 года назад
Actually scratch that, if you had pump in each zone then you will also have LLH before the boiler - in that case you could just wire to orange
@waynenixon729
@waynenixon729 4 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers LLH? What's that :-)
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 4 года назад
Wayne Nixon low loss header
@waynenixon729
@waynenixon729 4 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers oh yeah or close coupled tees
@robbiegaffney3987
@robbiegaffney3987 2 года назад
So if the current thermostat is in a bad position just above a radiator then what options do I have if buying a Nest one. Can it be moved? What happens to the old wires?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 2 года назад
You can buy a stand with an power adapter for around £30 and put it anywhere as it can be used wirelessly.
@markjames2375
@markjames2375 2 года назад
Hi, one question is it as simple with a pre wired unvented cylinder?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 2 года назад
Pretty much yes
@nileshruda6222
@nileshruda6222 3 года назад
Great video! One question.. if I have a programmer, what do I do with the wires, or can I just leave the programmer on permanently on??
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
remove the programmer and re wire as in the video
@nileshruda6222
@nileshruda6222 3 года назад
Okay, thank you. I will cap off the cables and place a blanking plate on the void of where the current programmer is located. I love how you explain everything so well. I will study it again before I do anything. Thanks again
@mikikiki6932
@mikikiki6932 3 года назад
Thanks. I too have programmer near boiler so once I disconnect the programmer I will have wires left behind. As I am wanting to put the nest hub upstairs next to wire centre.
@jeff1172
@jeff1172 2 года назад
What’s the best smart system to control Underfloor , rads 1st floor and hot water
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 2 года назад
It depends on your set up and your boiler. The preferred method would be something that allows use of OT if your boiler supports it. If yiu have hot water cylinder that would have to be done on hot water priority if your boiler supports it. There is no best smart control system, too many variables.
@pelemasa2516
@pelemasa2516 Год назад
So to heat two zones u need two receiver and 2 thermostat?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers Год назад
Correct
@markfenwick5441
@markfenwick5441 3 года назад
Do you need to link, or could you take another spare live feed from the wiring centre to terminal com 2 and terminal com 5 or does the link from Nest L communicate with com2 and com5
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Doesn’t matter where you take it from
@markfenwick5441
@markfenwick5441 3 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers so If I had 2 spare live connections in the wiring centre, I could run cable from them to com2 and com5 and not need the link cable. Thanks!
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
@@markfenwick5441 you will only have 1 live there. Just link it - it’s easier anywya
@mosuhu
@mosuhu 3 года назад
In this setup is it necessary to have a cylinder stat? Isn't that something that can be controlled by/with the Nest?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
You can only control timing with Nest. The temperature of the water cylinder still needs to be controlled by a cylinder stat.
@mosuhu
@mosuhu 3 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers Thanks for confirming. So the stat is used to set the chosen temperature and the Nest controls the timings of when the cylinder goes on and off and heats to the temperature set on the start. Makes sense. I'm assuming you can use the Nest to boost the hot water if demand is needed outside of the programmed timing?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
@@mosuhu yes you can
@mosuhu
@mosuhu 3 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers 👍🙂 thanks again, your videos and replies have been invaluable.
@eamonnmcgurk1671
@eamonnmcgurk1671 3 года назад
Hi there, I have a dual zone heating system with a hot water cylinder. I have hot water and zone 1 wired to thermostat1 and zone 2 wired to thermostat2. Is there anyway of controlling water from both thermostats ? Or jsut thermostat 1 ?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Just 1. Can’t do it from both
@eamonnmcgurk1671
@eamonnmcgurk1671 3 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers amazing quick response ! Thanks for quick confirmation. One last question though. Why can't I select system boiler for both thermostats ? Why does 1 need to be system and the other combi ?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
@@eamonnmcgurk1671 why would you even consider having 2 nests controlling water? Too much unnecessary wiring, 2 schedules sending to signals to one zone valve, you have to set 2 schedules identical anyway. Makes no sense at all. Also you will control hot water from your phone anyway so what the point ? If you maybe had 2 hot water cylinders with independent controls this would make some sense. Why would you want to do it anyway ?
@eamonnmcgurk1671
@eamonnmcgurk1671 3 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers it's not a huge issue for me. But as one of the most expensive "smart" thermostats you can buy. It doesn't work with google home assistant (to control water on/off) and if your phone is dead, the only way to turn on the water would be to go to the specific thermostat which is connected to the water control. Would be nice to control it from either thermostat as well as Google home assistant.
@peanutpotion
@peanutpotion 2 года назад
Hi mate, I have a job where there is 2 heating zones but they only want to control 1 zone via nest (s plan) would the wiring in the wiring centre stay the same for the heating zone they don’t want the nest on?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 2 года назад
Yes
@peanutpotion
@peanutpotion 2 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers do you have any schematics you could show me or just explain over here if you can?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 2 года назад
Are you serious? After I have done tons of videos explaining how to install Nest on all common plans, you want me to explain in the comments sections - again? Erhhhh - NO!
@peanutpotion
@peanutpotion 2 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers no worries thanks anyway👍🏼
@ReeceDawson21
@ReeceDawson21 3 года назад
Hello We have managed to set up our two nests on an on/off combi boiler and when we tested them, we’ve confirmed that each heat link is connected to the correct thermostat and that the correct valve operates for each heat link respectively. However, when we had the upstairs thermostat set to 15deg (eco) and downstairs set to 23deg, all of the radiators in the house were on and upstairs heated up to 23 degrees as well as downstairs. Any suggestions on what might be happening please?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
zone valve could be faulty - it does not open but the ball inside is snapped off so it is still passing water. Rare fault but it does happen. Before replacing make 100% sure that upstairs zone valve does not open.
@ReeceDawson21
@ReeceDawson21 3 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers thanks for your response. Both valves are operating, we can hear them opening and closing. When the heat links are in manual, the valves operate correctly but as soon as we try to control them with the thermostats it doesn’t work correctly
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
So if you press the button on the heat link it opens the correct valve an fires the boiler? But when you turn the thermostat on it opens both valves?
@ReeceDawson21
@ReeceDawson21 3 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers Yes! Manual operation on the heat link (button on the front) opened valves accordingly (up or downstairs)
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
@@ReeceDawson21 are Nests wired to the heatlinks or wireless?
@emmanueladebiyi9386
@emmanueladebiyi9386 3 года назад
How do i get in contact with you for hire to install the Nest ?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Www.urbanplumbers.co.uk
@fabianovidiu
@fabianovidiu 3 года назад
Can this work with OpenTherm compatible Combi?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
only on 1 zone. Will not work on multi zone
@OreoPOL
@OreoPOL 4 года назад
What size cable are you using ?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 4 года назад
0.5 to 0.75 -0 anything bigger makes it really difficult on the heat link. It is also a good idea to use ferrules on cable ends - makes the job much easier.
@OreoPOL
@OreoPOL 4 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers Thank you !!
@fireon5045
@fireon5045 2 года назад
Hello my smart is show yellow drop want that mean ???
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 2 года назад
What?
@gumbo1111
@gumbo1111 3 года назад
Can I just wire both heating zones in to one nest?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
You can but that defeats the purpose of having 2 zones.
@gumbo1111
@gumbo1111 3 года назад
Thanks for the reply my 2nd zone is just 2 radiators so a bit pointless really
@nadeemsharif99
@nadeemsharif99 3 года назад
If you have 2 zones on a Y-Plan is one Nest compatible?
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Yes, no problem. I am assuming you have 3 port valve and one 2 port valve? Thats what is sometimes done when vented on Y plan is converted to unvented.
@nadeemsharif99
@nadeemsharif99 3 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers yes i believe so. so confusing but nice video. I have a cylinder, 3 motorised valves a hot water tank. two wired thermostats and a timer.
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
@@nadeemsharif99 sounds like you are on S plan +. Are all valves 2 ports valves or do y ou have one 3 port?
@nadeemsharif99
@nadeemsharif99 3 года назад
@@UrbanPlumbers there are 3 valves thats all i know
@markfenwick5441
@markfenwick5441 3 года назад
You say you don't need to wire the earth next to T1/T2 because these are class II appliances, but that is not what the installation instructions say.
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 3 года назад
Mark Fenwick you are correct - it says that when using T1 and T2 to use earth.
@mickbmx
@mickbmx 2 года назад
not being able to use open therm on 2 zones really does suck..
@UrbanPlumbers
@UrbanPlumbers 2 года назад
I have to agree
@alangaughran
@alangaughran 7 месяцев назад
All fine....BUT.....While all this is all correct and proper the fact that Opentherm cannot be used is an important issue that needs to be addressed properly. The presenter is clearly aware of the problem and immediately goes to the hard contacts. However, this means that the benefits of Opentherm cannot be realised and that the system is bound to be of low efficiency by design. Not his fault because it's a flawed interface. What we really need to minimise the likelihood of multiple OT connetions calling for different water temperatures is a link box that design that can allow daisy-chaing of the boxes so that the last box calls for the highest temperature from the set of boxes. It's not rocket science but are there any manufacturers producing such devices? Apparently not. So, we're left to use inefficient systems because of a lazy supplier industry possibly also hampered by the need to train plumbers on a newer approach to their job. They won't like that, will they?
@Deceptolon
@Deceptolon 5 дней назад
So there is no way to have both thermostats control the domestic hot water in an S plan +?
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