Something that you probably should have mentioned just that the way the temperature sensors work. They have a 2-year batteries, and they work independently from one another. By that, I mean that you can't have the nest average the temperature between all the sensors and adjust the schedule based on that, you have to select one sensor that works with at a time. You can schedule the sensors to switch throughout the day, like for instance in the morning having it work with sensor number one, in the evening have it work with sensor number 2, etc etc. But the nest won't add the temperatures together and then average them out, to give you an average temperature of your house and then heat and cool based on that, which is kind of a downside, especially if you have a home like mine where the basement is usually about 4 degrees cooler than the living room, and the temperature upstairs is usually about two to three degrees higher than the living room.
i found that pretty clear from the video... i didn't get the impression that the sensors were being averaged at all. he said "it's using my daughter's bedroom's sensor to set the temperature for the whole house". he played a video clip of him changing the source sensor from the wall unit to the remote sensor. at no point did i get the impression it used more than one at a time.
Factor in humidity and wind, it's fair to say that low-40s FEELS cooler in FL than low-40s in Ohio. Regardless of what climate you've been acclimated to! ⛱️🥶🌴
My biggest pet peeve about the Nest 3 is that there is no manual override. This would be an easy firmware update...but, as of yet, Nest refuses to offer this option. The only workaround I have found is to reset the schedule to zero it out...and then, after the device restarts, go back to settings and hit "Nest Sense" and turn off the schedule. Pretty annoying for a device that costs so much.
I'm an hvac technician and the only issue that I find Is people install these on there multi stage furnaces and complain when its running on high speed all the time, what you do is you jump out the fan terminal from power to fan on the circuit board while its running till you hear the blower change speed but its stuck there so you can set it to low speed but it won't stage properly, just get a honeywell they've been making them a long time, in all honesty these are behind the curve and they're much better options that will properly run your furnace while maintaining efficiency
"these are behind the curve and they are much better options"; i presume you're talking about the nest for one and the honeywell for the other, but there's a fair bit of ambiguity in your sentence structure there. it took me a few minutes to try and untangle it enough to just say this!
I know out of the box it seems pricey but so many energy companies offer great rebates and some instant rebates they make them so affordable now adays it's almost a no brainer in cold states and a very hot states.
I have a large house/cabin in the mountains of Alberta that I rent out. I hope to use one nest thermostat to control the floor heat in the basement Suite and another one to control the forced heat in the upper two floors. I hope to raise the temp before guests arrive and another Nest to ensure that the temp is lowered when they leave. I should be able to make sure the place is not freezing as i have back up electrical heat in case the main boiler malfunctions.
The problem with room sensors is that to keep that one or two rooms cool or hot depending on what it is laking, you tend to over cool or over heat the remaining rooms. Room sensors dont solve the issue which is either bad insulation in that area or poorly managed and configured heating and air ducting
The sensors just let you control the system based on the room you specify for different times of days, for example you can have it keep your bedroom at the temp you want at night, and the living room durring the day. You can also go to workswith.nest.com/ and check out the smart registers that work with nest(i have not personally tried them yet)
@@justinklrjms You totally missed what I was saying with your first paragraph completely. As for the smart registers, that is intriguing but they are nowhere to be found the site or the link you sent. Should those be a thing, it would make room sensors and smart thermostat much more desirable.
New NEST thermostat battery became discharged. System wouldn’t charge it. Can’t get OEM battery, need NEST PRO service. Amazon sells a knock off but not 100% reviews and you have to be facile with a jewelers Phillips screwdriver and Warren is void if less that 2 years. I was at 1.5 years. In the meantime no AC...or heat. Sooner or later it will go bad and if you need heat or cool, looks like you have to wait for service ..or just plan on replacing it every 2 -4 years?
I had a NEST for about 5-10 years and by some crazy chance I had a saw in the living room and somehow a board cutting malfunction happened and a chuck of wood rocketed across the room and perfectly hit my NEST. Lol It cracked the glass however it’s still working and barely noticeable. I might wait until this remodeling project is complete before replacing it with the newest generation.
My Nest does things I don't tell it to do... I set a temp (to cool) but then it overrides that and either goes to a very high temp or shuts off. It doesn't stay where I set the temp. It may be some learned thing or a schedule of some kind but I never set anything up. It was just installed.
I live in a apartment complex . unfortunately they only swamp cooling that to be honest isn't the best . my question is well that affect how the nest cools my apartment , depending on what cooling system we have ? I mean will it actually start cooling my place if I switch to nest ?
thank you for this. very useful. I have a question on when kids are left at home when the adults are away. how do we tell it that people are still in the house?
I have a house made with floor heating with water in 7 individual zones in different lengths to the manifold. How many zones can 1pcs of Nest thermostat control with sensors? Wantes just 1 Nest thermostat on the wall and then sensors in each room. Is that even possible?
For the sensors, do they work as zones? or will this force heating system to heat up the entire house higher until that particular room is up at the desired temperature?
it's almost certainly the second one, but you could consider partially shutting the valve in your radiators in the hotter rooms. that way the colder rooms also get more of the hot water, as well as being where the thermostat is getting its temp from.
Nest thermostat thinks it knows what temperature you want even when you've been setting the same temperature for months... Learning feature is one of the key selling point but it actually is not remotely "smart" at all. You can turn it off by disabling auto-schedule. But just doing that won't stop your thermostat from changing the temperature by itself. You need to go to the Nest and clear out the schedule after turning it off. It's not very user friendly at all. This is an example of throwing more technologies into a product and hoping it produces superior product... I enjoy voice control though. You can easily find numerous complaints of Nest changing temperature by itself. Normally, I would say the user is stupid but it's not intuitive at all.
Hm. But I never adjust my temperature. I mean. During the Spring/Summer I turn on the AC and Fall/Winter I have the heat on. Don't think I've ever had to change the actual temperature.
@@kez850 Thankyou. My heating system is just a total mess, so I need to get it all redone from scratch. I think I'll get Nest installed at the same time. I have their smoke alarms and they work great
i would say it is a problem. i am on my 5th nest thermostat this year. Had a C wire installed last week and the battery is not an issue anymore but the nest decided to stop communicating with my furnace last night. nest sending out yet another new thermostat. this is the last one and i am selling and going with a different brand. i really wanted this system to work because i like the app. at this point i am worried about the thermostat damaging my 2 year old HVAC system. ps i spoke with my hvac guy and he said stay away from the next. nothing but issues
@@Redridge07 he just said there are a lot of issues with the nest that they are called out and paid by Google. me included. so yes he pretty much suggested going with a Honeywell. all this time over the past year i was under the impression i had an issue with my HVAC system. i have nothing against nest and really want it to work. but how is it possible that i am so unlucky that i have had 5 bad thermostats in a year. no issues during the summer when running AC though just heat.
How does one get a device like this donated to test and review, do you just walk into your local home improve store and say “ hey I want to test this can I have one”. How does this work
When you initially setup your nest thermostat it guides you through connecting to your Wifi and zip code. It gets live temperatures of your area from the internet.
I've thought about getting the sensors as I am plaqued with similar issue. All it will do is keep warming/cooling until those rooms have reached that temp? What about if one room has already reached that temp but another hasn't?
At this point in time you tell the nest what time to use which sensor....... So if you put a sensor in the bedroom and tell it to use the bedroom sensor at night, it will ignore the other sensors & build in sensor at night and only use the bedroom sensor.
Ive had this item for a couple years now and my family and i have been getting this weird problem saying the batteries are low but its installed into the wall and shouldn't run on batteries while also turning on and off the fan multiple times every 2 or so minutes
try checking the wifi connection coz it actually drains the battery if the thermostat oftens disconnects and reconnect to the router. second is. if you dont have a common wire. you may need to install one coz the power from hvac cant sustain enough power to the thermostat. you may charge the thermostat manually using an android charger
Find out which wire is your "Common" wire (C) in mist case it is the blue wire. Go to your furnace open the circuit board cover take picture of the wiring and match it with your Nest wiring that's how I did it. If this correct the wiring your fan problem should be fixed, also make sure you are not under the wrong settings for instance the "OB" connector controls a heat pump you may not have one, heat pumps are on electric furnace I think in my case I have forced gas system. Regardless, if you match the wires with your furnace board you should be ok.
I got 2 Nests and both are 5 degrees off the actual room temp. I had to get external temp sensors to solve my issue. Lucky thermostats were $50 each plus $80 for both sensors. Ecobee 4 seems to be a much much better thermostat with ton of features and free sensor. But unfortunately it doesn't support 2-speed fan, Nest does
Can you set setpoints so someone (like a guest in a vacation rental house) can't adjust the temps too high or too low anc either blow your power bill out the roof or kill your A/C unit?
It's saved us money by making sure we're not heating/cooling the house when we're not home. ... Exact totals vary a lot because of screwy Florida weather.
It save me roughly $300 a year on a 2 bedroom 🏠. Mostly $8 monthly, but it increased comfort and eliminated surprises from having to use the "emergency" heating mode. Getting up out of bed by cranking the heat remotely is priceless. Note, the E doesn't support emergency mode, I have no idea how the flagship one handles it.
Ray Foss I am calling bs on that. What saves people money is setting their thermostats at a reasonable temperature and not dicking with it, also dropping/increasing your temp (based on season)when you go to away and bringing it back to normal when you come home takes more energy they you ever save. Programable thermostats do not save people money. If you want to save money better insulate your home and use high efficiency equipment, not some expensive WiFi thermostat
Has to be somewhere like Jacksonville. Think open beach exposed 40 degree weather with wind. Not saying its 20 chicago or NYC cold, but thats still fairly chilly. The big difference is its only two months in Florida.
I’ve been having an issue with my 3rd gen Nest Thermostat that customer support can’t seem to fix. The display on it won’t wake up when changing the temp via the app or my computer. The change does occur but for some reason the display won’t wake up and show the change. It does wake up when I get near the thermostat though. Nest replaced the thermostat but the problem still exists.
My nest display doesnt wake up when nobody is near by when changing the temp on my phone.....I'll have to check tomorrow when I install a nest for a client.........
@@justinklrjms Have you found anything out yet? If yours doesn't wake up when using your phone contact Nest support, because they've never heard of customers having this issue prior to me.
@@Resist4 tried it on 2 nests, and if I am out of view of the occupancy sensor but can still see the screen, or standing still in front until the screen turns off and I change mode, or change temp through the nest app the screen does not illuminate. Both thermostats are on the newest firmware. (It could be a change on the latest firmware and tech support is not aware of the change yet)
@@justinklrjms Thanks for that info, I'm going to get back with Nest support and let them know others are experiencing the same thing I am. I'm thinking it is a change to the firmware and for whatever reason even their engineers don't know about it. But if you get a chance please call Nest and let them know you're having this same issue. The hope is that the more people that tell them, then maybe they'll look into it more deeply and confirm one way or another.
i was going to get this for my mothers house..they allready have the nest hello... and i was gonna get them more nest products as time went on... they live in the north east in the poconos...with all 4 seasons... the problem is .. is they have like 12 thermostats on a two story house... so itd be ridiculously expensive.. theres a thermostat in almost every room.. im not that knowledgeable about electrical when it comes to heating and cooling..... would it be more cost effective to do central air off of one thermostat ? I know central air can be ridiculously expensive though..any suggestions would be greatly welcome
is a nest worth it if i always have my air conditioner set to 65? i like feeling cold i never change it from 65 no matter what weather it is will this really save me energy?? also its super rare for my house to be completely empty. if me and my wife go out my parents are home some times they go out and i dont feel like going so i stay points is rare that we all leave the house so the profile setting or the learning features dont really seen like they will work for me. i like feeling cold when i leave my house and come back i dont like coming in and feeling the house warm. any point in buying a nest?
I would say not, you can just get a old fashion mechanical thermostat, you are one of the lucky ones that does mot mind turning their cash into cold air just for the peice of mind knowing what temperature your house is at all time. And thus far have avoided freezing up your unit be setting your thermostat so few below 68°f Must be awesome to be you.
@@Ragnar0321 i'm in a similar boat to you, i keep mine set at 23º all the time and there's almost always somebody in the house. but i'm still somewhat interested in the nest for two reasons: 1) on the rare occasions all of us do leave at the same time, it will take the chance to save some power, while preemptively ramping back up (down?) to your desired temp before you even get home again. 2) its use of local weather and correlating your temp response graphs to that local weather. that way if especially cold weather is coming up it can nudge the heat up just a little bit in advance, instead of waiting for it to actually get cold from the weather before initiating any heat at all. that second one is especially important to me. since it can take 15-30 minutes after the room gets cold before it warms up again, on a traditional thermostat, it can still lead to unpleasant environs even when you just leave your thermostat on one temperature all the time. right now, i know it's cold out because it suddenly gets cooler in here and i hear the thermostat click, and i need to wait for the heat to run it back up. but theoretically, using the weather data, the nest would start running in anticipation of the cold patch instead of simply acting in a reactionary manner. of course, for your situation, you would just have to reverse my temperature words to their opposites. a particularly hot patch hits. the sun suddenly comes out and makes all your windows hot or something. does your current A/C system take a few minutes to catch up with the extra heat when that happens? or does it deal with it quickly enough that you don't notice? if it deals with it so quickly you don't notice a lag period like that, and if you're not interested in catching those few times a year when everybody is out of the house, then i would concur that you probably wouldn't need one. but, those are my two reasons for being personally interested in such a system (nest or ecobee, i don't really care) even though i personally also don't really touch my thermostat. it just seems like it'd keep things more consistent, plus automatically catching those times when the house does get left empty (which are rare enough that i don't have any kind of habit built up to turn things down).
It needs HomeKit support and it’d be perfect!!! It shouldn’t matter which smart system I use. I should be able use any platform I choose. I shouldn’t be forced to use Amazon or Google if I’ve already in Apple’s ecosystem. I feel for as much money as these devices cost they should include HomeKit support as well. It’s not like they don’t have enough of a profit margin to make it happen.
I gave up on HomeKit after one item, it doesn’t play well with others, apple waited too long, I just moved on. I’m in the Mac/iPhone/iPad world, but home automation i leave to Wink,Google and nest. 🤷🏽♂️
“I live in Florida where it’s either really really hot or really really cold"....uhhhh you have no clue what really really cold is, if you think Florida experiences it.
Really what happens is it "feels" really cold because you are so used to the warm weather. I went to California on vacation and after being there a week went out late at night. I laughed when I was told to bring a jacket because it would drop down into the 60s. Sure enough I was freezing my ass off in 60 degree weather.
@@Inbal_Feuchtwanger and it works the other way too. spend a while in scandinavia or canada or somesuch place? come back to the uk and suddenly -5ºc is single-layer short-sleeved tshirt weather.
When you are in a warm climate, temperature drop enough to form frost in the car and you have no proper jacket and no furnace, yes, that's cold. I can say that because I lived in Saskatchewan, and I once was in Orlando in the middle of May, have to get to gym before class at 9am, so I was at my car at 5:30 am no jacket and trying to "scrap" off the frost with the windshield wiper....yes, it gets "really" cold.
I don't want to hear someone in Florida ever say "really cold" I live in SW VA and only ever say it gets cold occasionally. Thats down to 0 degrees. Really cold is the negatives.
Sebastian O correct, nest refuses to give us HVAC access to detailed control parameters to set them up exactly for the homeowners individual setup. We are not paying them the huge fee for that pleasure. They are a constant problem for us and we refuse to install those expensive turds. We clean up the messes homeowners do by cooking their systems because they don’t have a clue what they are doing or what little settings controls it gives them does causing huge headaches
Sebastian O you not understanding what I am saying. There are detailed control parameters that we adjust in digital thermostats that the nest doesn’t offer anyone access to besides their support team. Honeywell for examples let’s us completely fine tune it for any application it’s being installed in to prevent issues like short cycling that will damage your system. Again homeowners want to think this is a DIY project till they fry something or it completely fails to work as advertised and we have to explain in crayon to them why they wasted 250 plus dollars What I am talking about goes way beyond what your stand setup questions it asks you, every single home is different and some cases the thermostat must be fine tuned to work effectively for that persons HVAC system to operate as designed. What I am talking about has nothing what so ever to do with their app.
2nd month w Nest. This thing is stupid. Manually overrode the smart learn thing, it still changes the temp setting. The temp was 3 to 4 degrees off. Called Nest they suggested turning it off and back on. It did correct it a couple degrees. Its overpriced BS. Might take it back.
This thermostat sucks.. How come google thermostat is having such high reviews.. Even if mode is off temp doesnt go down. Help center is always overloaded
