Тёмный

Queen Cleopatra - The Most Hated Show Of All Time? 

The Critical Drinker
Подписаться 2,1 млн
Просмотров 4,2 млн
50% 1

The verdict is in for Netflix's Queen Cleopatra "documentary", and it's not looking good.
Want to help support this channel?
Check out my books on Amazon: www.amazon.com...
Subscribe on Patreon: / thecriticaldrinker
Subscribe on Subscribestar: www.subscribes...

Опубликовано:

 

21 сен 2024

Поделиться:

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист
Посмотреть позже
Комментарии : 25 тыс.   
@eggy6815
@eggy6815 Год назад
I love how one of their pieces of evidence for cleopatra being black is literally “My grandma said so” It’s just a step up from “trust me bro” 💀💀
@BruceBlack0291
@BruceBlack0291 Год назад
💯 😂🤣😂🤣
@DrCruel
@DrCruel Год назад
I think *Drunk History* uses this as a premise too.
@kimmmy240
@kimmmy240 Год назад
Maybe her grandma is 2103 years old and personally knew cleopatra who knows
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus Год назад
There's an entire subculture of black Americans who not only think Cleopatra was black but that ancient Egypt was a "black African" civilization. All the depictions showing otherwise are fakes done by white supremacists for some nefarious purpose.
@David-hc4xh
@David-hc4xh Год назад
Egyptologist Sally-Ann Ashton who worked as a consultant for Netflix stated, “Cleopatra ruled in Egypt long before the Arab settlement in North Africa,” Ashton said in a statement. “If the maternal side of her family were indigenous women, they would’ve been African, and this should be reflected in contemporary representations of Cleopatra.”
@savagex378
@savagex378 Год назад
Jada Pinkett Smith was about as loyal to the historical depiction of Cleopatra as she was to Will Smith.
@stevenesbitt3528
@stevenesbitt3528 Год назад
Ha good one 😂
@tomboyraider1015
@tomboyraider1015 Год назад
Lmaooo 🤣🤣🤣
@SmellMyJerky
@SmellMyJerky Год назад
She loves gettin in all sorts of “entanglements”
@The_North_Star_of_Wall_Street
the comments r epic
@KrazzeeKane
@KrazzeeKane Год назад
I wonder how many more times I'll see this comment copied from the original, higher rated one. My guess is thousands lol, people can't help but copy top comments and farm them upvotes. And they always have the same reply somehow, "I didn't see the top rated comment!"....c'mon son lol
@nickoftime5759
@nickoftime5759 Год назад
My wife started to watch this show the other night while I was cooking dinner. About five minutes in I heard a speaker say, “Despite what they told you in school, Cleopatra was Black!” and I just started laughing hysterically. And thank you Drinker, after I finished laughing I said, “Oh yes, I definitely smell shite!”
@Xurelbes
@Xurelbes Год назад
It's even funnier when you discover that this claim was made by a random grandma
@StaryzHelios
@StaryzHelios Год назад
2 words: CANCEL NETFLIX
@Lonovavir
@Lonovavir Год назад
My gran gran had some good stories as well.
@deanwinchester6654
@deanwinchester6654 Год назад
Dam why did your wife want to watch this trash.
@JacobTyler1776
@JacobTyler1776 Год назад
​@@strange-universe Don't forget the actual descriptions of Jesus as a caucasian or the actual descriptions of people like David and Joseph in the Bible as redheads.
@dj-chemicalz811
@dj-chemicalz811 Год назад
The funniest thing about this whole thing is is that by just race swapping Cleopatra they unintentionally just said that there were no actual black queens who were worth talking about
@engineerskalinera
@engineerskalinera 11 месяцев назад
Exactly. Plus, if you need to rely on race swapping, you're also saying that you don't think your race can make good characters on their own and need to rely on (insert other race) to make good original characters from them. It's self-racist and hillarious.
@reinexalumina9925
@reinexalumina9925 10 месяцев назад
They dont wanna talk about african queens, because in true history, african kings and queens would sell their own as slaves. In fact many cultures in the past used to do this, specially in tribal cultures. They didnt wanna make a documentary against that because its not in their political agenda.
@pure-blood17
@pure-blood17 10 месяцев назад
The actual funniest part is Netflix lost the lawsuit that Egypt hit them with and they have to remove this abomination and pay Egypt 2 billion dollars…..it’s fucking hilarious actually.😅
@David-ox7ps
@David-ox7ps 10 месяцев назад
Cleopatra was able to accept her African and Greek heritage. To the Egyptians she was Isis, to the Romans she was Venus. You can be more than one thing
@Kalicer
@Kalicer 10 месяцев назад
@@David-ox7ps What African heritage?
@ForeverLaxx
@ForeverLaxx Год назад
The sheer level of projection with their "why is her skin color so important to you" had me floored. If her skin color didn't matter, then why are they changing it?
@taz09216
@taz09216 Год назад
Whose changing it?? Have you seen a photo of Cleopatra which by the way isn't her original name, have you seen her remains?? So how do you what she looks like??
@trolleriffic
@trolleriffic Год назад
@@taz09216 We know she wasn't black African from contemporary depictions. It's not just that they show her with light skin and hair that a black woman wouldn't have - the strongest evidence is her facial structure which is nothing like those of black Africans.
@liftout1625
@liftout1625 Год назад
@@taz09216 You deserve an award for the level of intelligence demonstrated by that comment.
@a-dutch-z7351
@a-dutch-z7351 Год назад
They accuse others of that they do themselves. With literally everything.
@dixonhill1108
@dixonhill1108 Год назад
The irony is in this situation is the fact she was a European/Macedonian who was literally a colonizer of an African nation. This is how you know the woketards are just stupid. You can cover all the bases of wokism.
@SaltpeterTaffy
@SaltpeterTaffy Год назад
"Velma is so awful it managed to bring everyone together." Jada Pinkett: Hold my new boyfriend.
@daveyjove
@daveyjove Год назад
Jada's sons friend: Hold my integrity, and hers.
@jlopez2132
@jlopez2132 Год назад
I laughed way to hard at your comment 😂😂😂
@KelAda44
@KelAda44 Год назад
I think you mean, "Burp her new boyfriend."
@thenamesianna
@thenamesianna Год назад
Jada even made governmnets come together with the internet community.
@thedarkknight1971
@thedarkknight1971 Год назад
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOVE IT! 👌
@abdelali9279
@abdelali9279 Год назад
My grandmother told me, "no matter what Hollywood tells you, rewriting history to fit your narrative is bigotry".
@mighty-roman
@mighty-roman Год назад
Her grandmother: Why the fuck so many people are cursing me after I'm dead?! What did I do? 😂😂😂 Tbh, I feel a little sorry for her grandmother. There's always a clip of that statement in most coverages of this movie.
@yonghominale8884
@yonghominale8884 Год назад
Historian always rewrite history to fit a narrative. You might be right that they may be bigots.
@IJN_Guy
@IJN_Guy Год назад
​@@mighty-roman I don't. She set that "historian" to become a failure. Without that dead hag, this catastrophe wouldn't have been made.
@spentlizard353
@spentlizard353 Год назад
@@junodonatus4906 I mean maybe she just didn't know. It's not impossible to think that at that place and time her grandmother was under the impression that you shouldn't trust public education. Obviously she was dead wrong in the end but I don't interpret it as maliciousness.
@HowToChangeName
@HowToChangeName Год назад
​@@junodonatus4906 you should. She probably had no clear idea. But her granddaughter is literally African heritagr historian so she should knew better to be credible
@WhoMadeThisBurger69
@WhoMadeThisBurger69 7 месяцев назад
I like how their argument that “every african must look sub saharan” is unironically racist
@Rhonndel
@Rhonndel 3 месяца назад
Blacks can't be racist, they can spit on any race, that's what in USA they call tolerance
@HowToChangeName
@HowToChangeName 2 месяца назад
Just like thinking all Asian must be yellow, nevermind its the largest continent that includes millions of etnics
@spazmonkey3815
@spazmonkey3815 2 месяца назад
Of course if they are black they also must look like Lizzo. Damn is she Obeast.
@lawrencelopez9839
@lawrencelopez9839 Месяц назад
I'm from the philippines and I've been told I'm not asian... what the heck am i then??
@WhoMadeThisBurger69
@WhoMadeThisBurger69 Месяц назад
@@lawrencelopez9839 exactly, dumb as shit. Especially for the phillipines where alot of people are fairly mixed.
@michaeleigbadon1614
@michaeleigbadon1614 Год назад
“We don’t often get to see or hear stories about Black Queens”, & we STILL HAVEN’T. Thanks, Jada
@rrice1705
@rrice1705 Год назад
😆 My thought exactly, Michael
@frankgesuele6298
@frankgesuele6298 Год назад
I'm sure there is someone else she can steal.
@admirekashiri9879
@admirekashiri9879 Год назад
She could have chosen any of these. Kendakes (Queen) Amanirenas Kendakes (Queen) Amanishakheto Kendakes (Queen) Amanitore Kendakes (Queen) Shanakdakhete Kendakes (Queen) Nawidemak Kendakes (Queen) Amanikhatashan Sarauniya (Queen) Bakwa Turunku Sarauniya (Queen) Amina Lingeer (Queen) Ndate Yalla Mbodj Lingeer (Queen) Njembot Mbodj Queen Njinga Ngola Kilombo Queen Idia Queen Gudit Queen Yanu Queen Mary Queen Agnes Queen Mathilda Princess Ewurabena Pokou Queen Ndate Yalla Mbodj Queen Mwana Mikisi Queen Mwana Mwema of Zanzibar Nanak Asma'u bint Usman Fan Fodio Princess Hangbe Empress Eleni
@averagejoeschmoe9186
@averagejoeschmoe9186 Год назад
And we never get to hear any such stories when these twats pull their own "history facts" out of their arse. If there's so much real material, then what's with the BS and lies?
@ShantanuSuchil
@ShantanuSuchil Год назад
@@admirekashiri9879 Wdym...Thats like having to actually work for our money. Better to just do this and call everyone a racist instead!
@Agooo13431
@Agooo13431 Год назад
Amazon: I can ruin a classic trilogy (LOTR) Disney: that's nothing, I can ruin a cinematic universe (MCU) Netflix: hold my bud-light. I will ruin history.
@cathoderay305
@cathoderay305 Год назад
You forgot to mention the abominable Star Wars movies that Disney put out.
@Ihavethetouch
@Ihavethetouch Год назад
@@cathoderay305 What Star Wars movies? There haven't been any since Revenge of the Sith
@asaknight321
@asaknight321 Год назад
​@@cathoderay305rouge one was the only great one, solo was okay but the sequels were no
@AmericanZergling
@AmericanZergling Год назад
​@@Ihavethetouch I don't recall any movie called Revenge of the Sith... I do remember Return of the Jedi, which was originally called "Revenge" of the Jedi. There have been a few cool video games though, some even cover the clone wars!
@TheSocks221
@TheSocks221 Год назад
You should write: Disney: Thats nothing I cant make Star Wars irrelevant
@wyattmann8157
@wyattmann8157 Год назад
_“Why do some people need Cleopatra to be white?”_ Because she was. The question should be “Why do _you_ need Cleopatra to be black?”
@knowvilleknows1075
@knowvilleknows1075 Год назад
She was not white lmao. She was mixed race
@NateTheScot
@NateTheScot Год назад
She wasn't exactly "white" like Hollywood America thinks of "black" and "white" but that's the issue. Hollywood and the far left ideologues are so racist that they can ONLY see the world in black or white. They literally had a meltdown when an actual Hawaiian actress was cast to play a Hawaiian character in a movie, because her skin was "too light a shade". These people are the actual bigots they accuse everyone else of being. Of course anyone with even half a brain already knows this, but i think the normies are finally starting to wake up to the fact that the woke are the most close minded bigoted fucksticks out there... ironically.
@Azgalon
@Azgalon Год назад
@KnowvilleKnows she came from a weird aristocratic family that intermarried the hell out of each other and, if historical claims are accurate, may have been the first of her family to actually speak Ancient Egyptian along with Greek. She may not have been "white" depending on what you define Greeks as, but she sure as hell wasn't "mixed".
@dixonhill1108
@dixonhill1108 Год назад
@@Azgalon In the context of Cleopatra she was 100% white. It underminds the entire history of tolemaic egypt. They were colonized by a European power(macedon), if you want to get preachy focus on that. I'd be cool with that woman playing an egyptian female Pharos if it was dated back 2,000 bc. She's blackish, but I sincerely doubt she'd stand out if it her hair was straight in ancient egypt.
@Azgalon
@Azgalon Год назад
@@dixonhill1108 I'm not disagreeing that she was white. I'm replying to the guy above saying she was "mixed" which she absolutely was not. She was Greek which is white in the context of this discussion (but some people differentiate Mediterranean white from Northern European white). The black revisionism of the Mediterranean, be it Ancient Egypt or Carthage, is a joke.
@TheDoggyOnTheWall
@TheDoggyOnTheWall 9 месяцев назад
I hate the double standard. One group can culturally appropriate everyone else and then gatekeep their own. 😬
@shadowreaver1851
@shadowreaver1851 9 месяцев назад
It's Ironic how Hollywood is airbrushing historical figures to make them black while until recently they had been white washing almost everything Asian character in films and tv shows White. Avatar the Last Airbender where all the main characters were Asian but cast as white people. Ghost in a Shell where Major Motoko Kusanagi is a Japanese police Major recast by white actress, Scarlett Johansson.
@fvlse_
@fvlse_ 8 месяцев назад
It’s called the great replacement.
@fvlse_
@fvlse_ 8 месяцев назад
Sie werden uns nicht ersetzen. Blut und boden
@JustDatBoi
@JustDatBoi 7 месяцев назад
Apparently, calling out historical inaccuracies is racist now? When everything is “racist”, nothing is. Sadly, all the power behind the word is quickly losing its meaning due to so much crying wolf.
@fvlse_
@fvlse_ 7 месяцев назад
@@JustDatBoi by labeling all white men racist, they’ve inadvertently created more of them, like me. Technically, I’m “prejudice,” but because they would call that raysism’ I claim the label without care.
@fairwarning007
@fairwarning007 Год назад
I remember my grandmother saying to me “I don’t care what they tell you in school, pee comes from the balls.”
@philholdsworth8280
@philholdsworth8280 Год назад
My Grandma told me "I don't care what they tell you at school, but they did definitely land on the moon".
@Woo_Woo_Woman
@Woo_Woo_Woman Год назад
That made me laugh so much, hahaha. 😂
@elbolainas4174
@elbolainas4174 Год назад
@@philholdsworth8280 if your school denies the moon landing I wouldn't trust anything they teach too
@markofthewolvessucks8930
@markofthewolvessucks8930 Год назад
@@philholdsworth8280 still hard to believe people still believe that 👀.
@BillMcGirr
@BillMcGirr Год назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Gotta love Grandma.💪👍🥃
@juventus7131
@juventus7131 Год назад
It still blows my mind that they actually put “my grandma said” in a self proclaimed documentary.
@TheMattVis
@TheMattVis Год назад
This all what it came down in the end, documentary needs to be backed up with real facts, you may want to "spice" the story here and there, but makes all the "majority" and public knowledge right. If they changed some obscure things like maybe "Cleo have bad habits like biting her nails" maybe most people wouldn't know wheter it's true or not. But they changed her race which is common, and Even if they think Cleo was "pure" Egyptian, it's not like all of them have Black African skin. At this point just make new "fantasy" story instead.
@alexandredasilvavilasboasrosas
"how do you know this?" "it was revealed to me in a dream"
@zomkino
@zomkino Год назад
@@alexandredasilvavilasboasrosas "God spoke to me, he said Cleopatra was non-binary"
@FlecheNoire07
@FlecheNoire07 Год назад
That grandma git dementia. Ok lady, it's time for your pills
@David-hc4xh
@David-hc4xh Год назад
Whilst its not perfect it tells an important story of an African Queen, how that people with darker skin (non-white) were once some of the most powerful people in the world and how it was from Africa that Europe got its power and wealth.
@YouTubecanbitemyhairybanger
This documentary had a strong relationship with cutting edge scientific methods of "I feel like" and "my grandma said"
@zoebaggins90
@zoebaggins90 Год назад
It's the leftist kind of science. Very objective 😆
@The_krazy_kriegsman
@The_krazy_kriegsman Год назад
maybe put documentary between quotes " ?
@herheartbeats5727
@herheartbeats5727 Год назад
Yes and it's a very sad thing that our (at least Western) mankind just looks like going down that slope to the end of what exactly : magical thought at every corner of life ?
@erikstone2321
@erikstone2321 Год назад
“My uneducated grandmother who didn’t finish high school and was a maid to a White family which made her racist against White people said Cleopatra was black so it must be true!”
@tropicalsadness2407
@tropicalsadness2407 Год назад
"My uncle works at Nintendo."
@mister_dadstersays_hi7372
@mister_dadstersays_hi7372 11 месяцев назад
Hell, as a Greek I say we should have joined in with the lawsuit
@lobehold2263
@lobehold2263 5 месяцев назад
You mean Greek Macedonians at the time weren’t black?!! I never knew 😱 In all seriousness. When I heard about a lawsuit I thought it was Greece at first lol
@siegebreaker4120
@siegebreaker4120 5 месяцев назад
@@lobehold2263 in a hilariously bad attempt at being diverse they managed to offend an entire african country... that's kind of the opposite of what they were trying to do
@lobehold2263
@lobehold2263 5 месяцев назад
@@siegebreaker4120 no kidding, they dropped the ball big time. Especially because the Ptolemys practiced inbreeding a lot. That or they married into other diadochi families. So there blood didn’t dilute much from their origin
@user-cr3ti1vj6f
@user-cr3ti1vj6f 4 месяца назад
Don't forget about (North) Macedonia, they have a skin in this game as well
@mister_dadstersays_hi7372
@mister_dadstersays_hi7372 4 месяца назад
@@user-cr3ti1vj6f Never ask a Greek man his opinion on if Monkeydonians have a stake in Greek history.
@khfan4life365
@khfan4life365 Год назад
Jada’s definition of history is right up there with her definition of marriage.
@oliverklosov5153
@oliverklosov5153 Год назад
Spot on!! Wish I could like this comment more than once
@Azurethewolf168
@Azurethewolf168 Год назад
@@DeReAntiqua he should be more worried about what’s going in her mouth
@RuggerDez
@RuggerDez Год назад
Brilliant
@JackEverton101
@JackEverton101 Год назад
This is top-tier savagery and I love it!
@julesmcdules2203
@julesmcdules2203 Год назад
Yeah like how she calls cheating “entanglements” 😂
@Pr0m3th3us
@Pr0m3th3us Год назад
They made a show more hated than Velma that also managed to piss off an entire country and unite large sections of the internet against them. I don't know what to say.
@a.r.mproductions5616
@a.r.mproductions5616 Год назад
Two countries. Both Egyptians and Greeks are mad lol
@editingsecrets
@editingsecrets Год назад
What to say? "Velma was obviously made by amateurs!"
@coboltfischer789
@coboltfischer789 Год назад
Idk, it takes true masters to unite so many together. Like its impressive, for all the wrong reasons but impressive nonetheless
@Kiyoone
@Kiyoone Год назад
Well... they are actually accomplishing something? hooray :) LOL
@devintriantos
@devintriantos Год назад
These ‘creators’ are so indoctrinated by their whole worldview that they, I think, really believe that any insistence on historical fact is ‘systemic racism’. These people are racist. They only see race. Not substance. Not truth. Not historical accuracy. Just racism. Everything is racism. And it all points to their own intrinsic value as higher and better than all others because of their supposed victimized status. Nevermind they’re adulterating elites who live in a bubble of class and wealth. Everyone has to affirm their ‘blackness’. It’s all so off-putting and would be laughable if it wasn’t straight up dystopian. Anyway. That’s all I’ve got for today.
@MegaCityPatrol
@MegaCityPatrol Год назад
"I remember my grandmother telling me 'I don't care what they tell you in school - *THE MOON IS MADE OF CHEESE* '" This is about the level these clowns operate on.
@w3vjp568
@w3vjp568 Год назад
Hoo boy. If we’re gonna open that whole “my grandma/grandpa told me _________________” can of worms, as a basis for ultimate truth, it could get interesting.
@chizorama
@chizorama Год назад
Cheese or not, the moon is flat...
@ARIES5342
@ARIES5342 Год назад
It is the same old argument, is it the small medulla oblongotta or too many teeth not enough toothbrush?
@matyaskassay4346
@matyaskassay4346 Год назад
And sadly this is the same logic lots of people apply towards science. Who cares that there's overwhelming scientific evidence and experience about the importance of vaccines, the shape of the planet or the origin of mankind, if it doesn't meet their mental image of reality it's automatically thrown out the window
@markmitchell590
@markmitchell590 Год назад
Maybe it was Cleopatra Jones?
@NotLegendary_YT
@NotLegendary_YT 5 месяцев назад
I remember my grandmother telling me " I don't care what they told you in school, George Washington was actually a black lesbian single woman named Georgina."
@ronoconnor8971
@ronoconnor8971 Месяц назад
Assuming they knew the definition of woman
@nunayoorbidnez2119
@nunayoorbidnez2119 29 дней назад
My grandmother told me I'd go blind if I kept doing that...
@Ingcivilcarlos
@Ingcivilcarlos 26 дней назад
You probably meant to say "birthing person"
@michaelhill6451
@michaelhill6451 Год назад
Netflix: “Cleopatra was Black…”. Egypt: “No she wasn’t…”. Netflix: “Why do you care about race so much Egypt?”.
@2012nightwatcher
@2012nightwatcher Год назад
The statement Netflix, "Cleopatra was Black," and the response from Egypt, "No, she wasn't," indicate a difference in perspectives and ideologies regarding Cleopatra's racial background. Let's expand on this topic. The assertion that "Cleopatra was Black" refers to the belief that Cleopatra, the famous queen of ancient Egypt, had African ancestry and should be considered a person of African descent. This viewpoint is often supported by proponents who argue that Cleopatra hailed from a region with a diverse population, including Greek, Egyptian, and African people, and that her family, the Ptolemies, had a history of intermarriage with Africans. Advocates of this perspective may emphasize Cleopatra's interactions with African rulers and her connections to Egypt's southern regions, which had closer cultural and ethnic ties to Sub-Saharan Africa. They might also point to ancient artistic representations of Cleopatra that feature her with features associated with African heritage, such as a broad nose or dark complexion. On the other hand, the response from Egypt, stating, "No, she wasn't," reflects an opposing viewpoint. This perspective holds that Cleopatra, as a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, was primarily of Greek descent and should be considered ethnically Greek or Caucasian. It argues that while Egypt had contact and trade with various regions, including Africa, Cleopatra herself did not have a significant African heritage. Proponents of this viewpoint may focus on the historical context of the Ptolemaic dynasty, which originated from Macedonian Greece and ruled over Egypt for several centuries. They might also highlight Cleopatra's lineage, tracing her ancestry back to Ptolemy I Soter, a Greek general under Alexander the Great. It's important to note that the debate surrounding Cleopatra's ethnicity and racial background is not a recent phenomenon. Historians and scholars have engaged in discussions on this topic for many years, considering various primary sources, archaeological evidence, and cultural contexts. Ultimately, the question of Cleopatra's racial identity remains complex and multifaceted. The lack of definitive historical evidence regarding her physical appearance and the diverse influences within ancient Egypt make it challenging to reach a consensus. The contrasting ideologies surrounding Cleopatra's race reflect the ongoing discourse in historical and cultural studies, where interpretations and perspectives can differ based on individual perspectives, biases, and available evidence.
@jordandowland7256
@jordandowland7256 Год назад
@@2012nightwatcher How long did it take you to type that nothingburger?
@naoz9228
@naoz9228 Год назад
Netflix: "When you care about race so much in favor of black it's woke, but when you care about race so much in anything else including truth and historical facts: it's racist. 😂"
@AidThe15
@AidThe15 Год назад
​@@2012nightwatcherchatgpt?
@HowToChangeName
@HowToChangeName Год назад
​@@2012nightwatcher dunning kruger detected
@XeniaChow
@XeniaChow Год назад
Saying Cleopatra is black is like calling Jada Pinkett Smith a loving wife
@henryblake2035
@henryblake2035 Год назад
Oh, Jada loves a bit too much
@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
The amount of evidence that Cleopatra is black is the same as the amount of hair in Jada's head
@grandmufftwerkin9037
@grandmufftwerkin9037 Год назад
She's getting more excited this time of year; soon August will come.
@mrblonde609
@mrblonde609 Год назад
KEEP MY WIFES NAME OUT YOUR EFFING MOUTH!
@brothatisfunny
@brothatisfunny Год назад
Or that her husband can take a joke
@_SimpleJack_
@_SimpleJack_ Год назад
Imagine offending an entire nation and their culture and having the nerve to get pissed off about it...
@na-vn5qy
@na-vn5qy Год назад
attempting to erase a cultural identity and then calling others racist for finding fault with it is a hell of a venture
@Ind3xPlus
@Ind3xPlus Год назад
Tbf the people living in modern Egypt don't have anything to do with that culture. Would be the same as saying that latin Americans are the heirs of Aztec culture
@DJVARAO
@DJVARAO Год назад
How isn't cultural misrepresentation?
@mitsurugi999
@mitsurugi999 Год назад
​@@Ind3xPlus so you basically said that people today have nothing to do with slavery, yet black people want compensation from current year white people. Fucking dope XD
@johnfrusciante6548
@johnfrusciante6548 Год назад
Actually, the director claimed she was fine with that. The audacity. Lol
@Judas_1989
@Judas_1989 Год назад
I love the fact that compared to this "documentary" the Asterix and Obelix Mission Cleopatra is more accurate, even to the point where Cleopatra says "I will defend my people" and Caesar reply with "What do you mean your people? You are Greek, arent you?" :D :D :D
@GreenDude_Gaming
@GreenDude_Gaming 3 месяца назад
Asterix and obelix's representation of gladiators is better than 90% of all other media.
@EH_1995
@EH_1995 Год назад
Imagine trying to tell a whole nation that their heritage is wrong and then criticising them when they rightly call you out for it. These show runners honestly never cease to amaze me.
@NhatAnhPhamDr
@NhatAnhPhamDr Год назад
Dissing a whole nation is the next level of stupidity
@Mark-in8ju
@Mark-in8ju Год назад
Wow... Netflix has always been greedy, immoral liars. However, I was truly surprised when they screwed-up so badly that they offend an actual entire country! How much worse can Netflix ruin their own brand?
@johntiggleman4686
@johntiggleman4686 Год назад
Bunch of arse-end gollywogs. Just like the jerkwaters that cockedup the story of Galadriel. I suffered through three episodes of that mess, and just about threw my sledgehammer through me telly.
@eddycolangelo
@eddycolangelo Год назад
Unbelievable, and you can also clearly see that they're not even basing their controversial statement on any credible ground at all, their only comeback is "well, Egipt is in Africa right? So egiptians ARE africans, therefore black!". As if every single group of people is Africa looks like another, for a team that claims to fight racism, I really wouldn't have expected them to go "ah yes they're all the same, they're africans so they are black and speak with a thick accent". Looks to me like they have never even spoke with an actual Egiptian, otherwise they'd know how they look like.
@morganwheeleryear1123
@morganwheeleryear1123 Год назад
That’s how I felt as an Englishman when they blackwashed Anne Boleyn, the fact that they knew she was white but still thought it would be a good idea to make her black anyway
@mkwannas9423
@mkwannas9423 Год назад
I'm Egyptian and I am so glad the entire internet gave those clowns the reality check they desperately needed. EDIT: Just wanna add something for the clowns who claim us modern Egyptians are occupiers that have nothing to do with ancient Egyptians. Modern Egyptians are only 17% Arab according to their DNA, with the rest of modern Egyptians' genetic makeup being 68% North African, 4% Jewish, 3% East African, 3% from Asia Minor and another 3% South European. Based on DNA sequencing of Ancient Egyptian mummies. Source: National Geographic Genographic Project Another thing to know is we do have a black minority called the Nubians residing in southern Egypt. Egyptians have a huge variety of skin colors. We're not exclusively white or black.
@nm7358
@nm7358 Год назад
They managed to unite the Egyptians into defending the friggin' Ptolemies. The Ptolemies! The quintessential foreign dynasty occupying and exploiting one of the most important Empires of our civilization down the decadence drain until it became a mere Roman Imperial Province. That's some incredible accomplishment from Netflix.
@umii-jh5fr
@umii-jh5fr Год назад
@@nm7358 they're not defending the potlemies tho it's more of defending their ancient history as a whole
@el_killorcure
@el_killorcure Год назад
@@nm7358 Unlike the Arab Muslims occupying Egypt to this day?
@acutelilmint8035
@acutelilmint8035 Год назад
I would be ok if they claim mao, polpot, hitlers as black tho 😂😂 they can change that hisotry
@rankoorovic7904
@rankoorovic7904 Год назад
The reality check went over their head trust me
@ameliahamilton3647
@ameliahamilton3647 Год назад
This is a win for logic and education. Imagine that we're living in a world where Jada Smith, who barely knows the location of the US, let alone Egypt, is trying to question the arguments of the Egyptian experts, including the Egyptian guy who literally led the search for the tomb of Cleopatra. And the fact that the whole cast of this "documentary" didn't include a single Egyptian historian is unbleavble. That's like a Chinese movie company making a documentary about George Washington and all the experts in the documentary being Chinese.
@peterheimsoth159
@peterheimsoth159 Год назад
Jada had just enough savvy to realize that hiring real Egyptians would have killed her show before it began.
@Alan_Marin
@Alan_Marin Год назад
That would also be like India trying to portray Mikiel Gorbachav as an Indian guy
@OOPMAHS
@OOPMAHS Год назад
"George Washington was actually a communist"
@ArgentWolf95
@ArgentWolf95 Год назад
and all these "experts" are marxist professors, so your analogy would be correct.
@ReformedSauron
@ReformedSauron Год назад
She's an actress trying to act like a big brain. Kind of like most activists come to think of it. She should stick to mediocre acting and cucking her husband.
@alicemarego2682
@alicemarego2682 10 месяцев назад
I am an Italian engineer and I am quite offended by the fact that they portraied ancient romans as barbarians. Wtf. They wrote half of my university books
@bollard918
@bollard918 5 месяцев назад
and their architecture wasn't matched for centuries afterwards.
@miguelservetus9534
@miguelservetus9534 Месяц назад
Forgive me but I must paraphrase one of my favorite movies, the life of Brian. “What did the Romans ever give us “ “ aqueducts, law, sanitation, libraries”. “Well, other than that, what did they give us?
@gerrekurquidez3044
@gerrekurquidez3044 День назад
​@@bollard918 China:hold my rice wine...
@IronGhost8280
@IronGhost8280 Год назад
It gets better. The actress who played Cleopatra said that Egyptians are racist and don't know their own history if they don't believe ancient Egyptians were black. I've also seen defenders of the show say the same thing and I'll bet you anything those people aren't Egyptian. Can you imagine being an Egyptian and having someone from another race claim they know your own history better than you do? Egotistical doesn't even BEGIN to describe it!
@mahmam3128
@mahmam3128 Год назад
Just wait till they claim ancient mesopotamia was black lmao
@mariebussinger6565
@mariebussinger6565 Год назад
Actresses should not go off script. They're undereducated and overpaid.
@NIDELLANEUM
@NIDELLANEUM Год назад
Imagine telling "you don't know your history" to one of the countries that SHAPED history
@norwegianboyee
@norwegianboyee Год назад
I might as well start telling Japanese people i know their history better than they do. Oh yeah Nobunaga was actually black, my mom said so!
@NIDELLANEUM
@NIDELLANEUM Год назад
@@norwegianboyee fun fact, you can *actually* make a historically accurate story of a black samurai. His name was Yasuke
@512TheWolf512
@512TheWolf512 Год назад
FINALLY, an actual, REAL example of *cultural appropriation* that I have heard so much about! And it gets the appropriate amount of hate!
@stoneymahoney9106
@stoneymahoney9106 Год назад
I do wonder just how close this one has brought Netflix to actually being dragged into a court somewhere in the world on hate crime charges
@rejvaik00
@rejvaik00 Год назад
It's weird because there are Nubian and Kushite Pharos of Egypt that they could have told the story about in actual Egyptian history But NOOOOOOOOOO they won't even tell their own story of Africa and it's people they need to tell the story of already existing and established stories with now a darker complexion because "muh feelings"
@BryanSMudd
@BryanSMudd Год назад
Good point. A very fitting example. Now if it had done well, without blatant criticism, then it would also have been a fine example of hypocrisy.
@rca4788
@rca4788 Год назад
As a balcanic guy I can agree with making Cleopatra back because pf how racist we are twards greeks being black.
@bubbajones5905
@bubbajones5905 Год назад
The radical left is used to getting away with it, but a lot of people are getting tired of their never ending lies.
@Theogenerang
@Theogenerang Год назад
"I don't care what they tell you in school". Kind of sums up the whole problem right there.
@tommyh.8391
@tommyh.8391 Год назад
Best comment 🤣
@Kyle-sr6jm
@Kyle-sr6jm Год назад
The same libwits will say "follow the science"
@chadthunderstroke
@chadthunderstroke Год назад
Yeah, my gran drank, too
@RR-ds4sd
@RR-ds4sd Год назад
Nailed it.
@sik3xploit
@sik3xploit Год назад
Who don't have schools anymore, we have indoctrination.
@businesscasualsauron
@businesscasualsauron 10 месяцев назад
What really pisses me off is that they could just have made a documentary about Queen Nzinga, an utterly fascinating and real historical figure. Instead, we get this piece of self-insert fanfiction masquerading as a documentary.
@sgtGiggsy
@sgtGiggsy 3 месяца назад
Yeah, but they should've used extreme falsification with Nzinga too. I mean, yes, she was fascinating, and black, but at the same time, her wealth, and the prosperity of her country was based largely on slave trade. So they couldn't actually show Nzinga without admitting, that slave trading wasn't exactly like their core narrative of "evil white men capturing blacks and taking them away from their home". It's easier to lie Cleopatra's skin was black than explaining how Nzinga was so powerful without admitting her being the largest slaver of the region.
@Eh-Mungu-Nguvu-Yetu-q8p
@Eh-Mungu-Nguvu-Yetu-q8p 3 месяца назад
​@@sgtGiggsy I don't know why that's the case for the west here in Africa I'm not ashamed of saying what clans did the slave trade. They are long dead anyway and sugarcoating history to make black leaders look cool is just silly. Plus ancient Egypt too did slavery so Cleopatra doesn't get a pass in the slavery part
@tranquilthoughts7233
@tranquilthoughts7233 2 месяца назад
@@Eh-Mungu-Nguvu-Yetu-q8p But cleopatra didn't participate in the transatlantic slave trade (probably because she died almost twothousand years before that started) and that of course is the only instance of slavery that matters... to US afrocentrists.
@tranquilthoughts7233
@tranquilthoughts7233 2 месяца назад
Or how about Hatschepsut. She was even an egyptian queen and lived over a thousand years earlier than cleopatra. And while she wasn't sub-sahara african black (because guess what, egypt is not in sub-saharan africa), she at least wasn't greek. And as a bonus for the fashionable patriarchy smasher, after her death significant efforts were undertaken (presumably by her son thutmosis III though that has come under scrutiny lately) to erase her name from history. However, we still know a lot about her and her reign is considered one of the golden ages of ancient egypt.
@xymos7807
@xymos7807 Месяц назад
​@@tranquilthoughts7233 I thought he was her nephew. Im recalling history from middle school of course so maybe im wrong.
@c.rutherford
@c.rutherford Год назад
My grandmother always used to tell me, "No matter what Netflix shows you.... not all African queens are black". It was a weird thing to say considering Netflix didn't even exist back then, but hey. I can rewrite history too
@maria.menezess
@maria.menezess Год назад
Reimagine*
@history-jovian
@history-jovian Год назад
Maybe she was during the time of blockbuster
@ルクミ-w8m
@ルクミ-w8m Год назад
This black Cleopatra is pure racism in the name of anti-racism. American's stereotypical depiction of other people's race and culture has to stop.
@OWnIshiiTrolling
@OWnIshiiTrolling Год назад
Cleopatra is black because that woman's grandmother was an idiot. That is the actual goddamn reasoning behind the racebait.
@MsGeorge50
@MsGeorge50 Год назад
My grandmother always used to tell me that no matter what they teach me in school, owning slaves is a good thing.
@forbiddencroisant
@forbiddencroisant Год назад
The fact that we got Cleopatra, Velma, and She-Hulk all within less than a year is absolutely incredible
@Yoonpsoo
@Yoonpsoo Год назад
And Black Ariel?
@sofija642
@sofija642 Год назад
@@Yoonpsoo Changing her appearance is not even nearly the worst thing that movie has done.
@vice2versa
@vice2versa Год назад
​@@sofija642 for me it was the worst thing and im black. Black Ariel is NOT ariel to me.
@danielwilliamson6180
@danielwilliamson6180 Год назад
Cleopatra was also speculated to be one of George RR Martin's inspirations behind Daenerys Targaryen.
@collinking1
@collinking1 Год назад
@@Yoonpsoo black Ariel not that bad, but what they did with the rest of the characters? Jail time
@jossefyoucef4977
@jossefyoucef4977 Год назад
We live in an era where the biggest media corporations keep breaking records of the most awful stuff produceable
@bewmdogg
@bewmdogg Год назад
And it is weird. They seem to be actively trying to ruin themselves. "Hey let's make an entertaining, historically accurate TV show" "nah"
@danrebeiz4598
@danrebeiz4598 Год назад
Well said!
@noviangel2934
@noviangel2934 Год назад
It sounds like the razzie awards and razzie oscars needs their own show, that’ll be amazing
@markofthewolvessucks8930
@markofthewolvessucks8930 Год назад
That's cause Netflix has money .
@Muckylittleme
@Muckylittleme Год назад
@@bewmdogg It isn't about the money, it is about indoctrination. They will always be funded by the people whose agenda they push.
@KellyRende-yo3ql
@KellyRende-yo3ql 11 месяцев назад
Netflix is going to lose big time on this lawsuit. If they try to fight it, they'll spend millions on lawyers and the court will still rule on behalf of the Egyptian litigants. If they try to settle, that move will be construed as an admission of guilt. I hope Jada was named as a defendant in the lawsuit. She's the one who truly needs to be held accountable.
@manlyman2624
@manlyman2624 Год назад
I love how the producers didn’t even realize Cleopatra wasn’t black, she was a Ptolemy, who were greek, she wasn’t an African she was a Greek. They would have known this if they had bothered to do 15 minutes of research
@coralieelliott2076
@coralieelliott2076 Год назад
but Gramma said...
@randydiabolo
@randydiabolo Год назад
I don't think they were really that interested in historical accuracy. This movie is essentially 'We Wuz Kangs The Movie 2: We Wuz Kwangs'
@sepa941
@sepa941 Год назад
Grandma said don't believe what they say ,she was black
@TheStapluh
@TheStapluh Год назад
B-but we wuz quangs n shit..
@jesterday2222
@jesterday2222 Год назад
hello? THEY KNOW. Everybody with half a brain knows Cleopatra was white (Greek). They purposely ignored it because they are trying to change history, wanting to make it less white.
@gorillahackerman
@gorillahackerman Год назад
“I have asked Egyptians to see themselves as Africans” is a really funny way of saying “I’m trying to tell people how they should view themselves so it aligns with my worldview”
@smyers9052
@smyers9052 Год назад
The most insane angle here is the idea that a western filmmaker of Iranian heritage believes that casting a mixed-race British woman in the role of a Greek-Egyptian queen is a pathway to teaching modern Egyptian people about their own identity, and that she is somehow responsible for teaching this lesson while ignoring the protests of actual Egyptian scholars. The absolute narcissism and entitlement in that statement is shocking.
@bobbygetsbanned6049
@bobbygetsbanned6049 Год назад
And she clearly thinks all Africans are black! She wants them to see them selves as black, but she says African because she thinks they are the same thing.
@reemdaak3591
@reemdaak3591 Год назад
Modern Egyptians are Arab oriented😂lmao
@Rockhound6165
@Rockhound6165 Год назад
Fun Fact: South Africans, many of whom are white, are African. Elon Musk is African. Oh, it's true.
@ivx8345
@ivx8345 Год назад
So people from Greece are also Africans now I guess. Jezus that woman is clueless.
@pappar2669
@pappar2669 Год назад
I'm a white Australian and seeing Cleopatra has inspired me to make a documentary on Malcom X starring Chris Pratt
@chrisstopher2277
@chrisstopher2277 Год назад
All I remember from that Malcolm X movie is Denzel washington getting shot about 10000 in his death scene. As a kid I was shocked by how many bullets he took like it was a bb gun.
@nont18411
@nont18411 Год назад
Nah, need a documentary about Adolf Hitler starring Samuel L Jackson
@xerr0n
@xerr0n Год назад
@@nont18411 🤣🤣🤣, god damn it, its way too funny imagining Jackson with the hitler stash and speaking in german
@rudesword2852
@rudesword2852 Год назад
Malcolm x directed by and starring Mel Gibson
@lonewolf5238
@lonewolf5238 Год назад
​@@rudesword2852 once again, brilliant casting!
@denisedeane8218
@denisedeane8218 10 месяцев назад
My grandmother, a lovely women of 5’3” with an amazing voice and clear blue eyes told me that she was closely related to Prince Phillip. She wasn’t, she was just a bit confused. Bless her 🥰
@BlackAdder665
@BlackAdder665 Год назад
The damage done to Western societies by the phrases "You can be anything you want to be" and "my own truth" is immeasurable.
@ijiwarusensei89
@ijiwarusensei89 Год назад
Agreed. "My truth" is usually just "my opinion" or maybe "my experiences." It certainly isn't "the truth."
@Kai...999
@Kai...999 Год назад
Don't you people constantly rewrite and lie in history? Rhetorical question by the way I understand that needs to be specified.
@jackflynn412
@jackflynn412 Год назад
The most evil thing these people are doing is trying to rewrite reality through the news and pop culture. They want everything to bend to their ideas and it's the biggest assault on truth possible. I refuse to give a cent to any of those woke corporations I hope they all crash and burn.
@ijiwarusensei89
@ijiwarusensei89 Год назад
@@Kai...999, people who try to shape history to fit their ideology often lie, whether they realize it or not. The primary agenda in pursuing history should be to discover truth, not shape it. Ideology blinds.
@shaz2761
@shaz2761 Год назад
​@@Kai...999no, I've never re written history. Never even wrote about anything historic.
@Wickedbilly11
@Wickedbilly11 Год назад
I’m surprised that she didn’t make Cleopatra have an open marriage just like she did
@scottslotterbeck3796
@scottslotterbeck3796 Год назад
And bald
@ROCKETMANN56
@ROCKETMANN56 Год назад
An "entanglement"
@kungfew1396
@kungfew1396 Год назад
The Drinker lies! Clearly there was a black Queen Cleopatra! Cleopatra Jones ruler of Harlem!
@zdvxr
@zdvxr Год назад
@@scottslotterbeck3796that would get Jada mad
@BlueEyedMomof378
@BlueEyedMomof378 Год назад
​@@zdvxr And maybe make Will slap someone😂😊
@Charge183IF
@Charge183IF Год назад
I now demand a movie about Shaka Zulu to be made and I want him 'reimagined' as a ginger irishman. My grandma told me, "No matter what they teach you at school, Shaka Zulu was a pasty ginger."
@jesterday2222
@jesterday2222 Год назад
🤣
@kevinarnold8634
@kevinarnold8634 Год назад
Race swapping only goes from light to dark, so don't get your hopes up.
@Cool_For_Cats_with_Karlo
@Cool_For_Cats_with_Karlo Год назад
😂😂😂
@ripstake
@ripstake Год назад
Hmm, that would explain his expansionist tendencies...
@The_Modeling_Underdog
@The_Modeling_Underdog Год назад
"I'd like now to nominate Domhnall Gleeson for the role of Shaka Zulu." Or something along those lines, innit?
@lawrencelopez9839
@lawrencelopez9839 5 месяцев назад
as an asian I honestly don't understand America's need to feel represented and inability to relate to a character if they're a different race
@kapawtaw
@kapawtaw Месяц назад
Ask the Egyptians. 😂😂😂 . As a south east Asian, it pokes my eyes to see Asians acting as the white British general and his white wife by putting on makeup in history movies. Eye sore.
@lawrencelopez9839
@lawrencelopez9839 Месяц назад
@@kapawtaw hah. also like, will the world be offended if a highschool full of asians decide to put on a play of hamilton and nobody's black or white? what if a school in africa decide to put on a play of Mulan? They're actors. People need to get a grip.
@livequality4578
@livequality4578 7 дней назад
It's not America; it's the race-baiting shock jocks in media who think offensive lies will garner enough attention to turn a profit, regardless of the division their mindset sews.
@Animestar21
@Animestar21 Год назад
That moment when you realize that Yu-Gi-Oh was more respectful to Egypt than this “documentary”
@lee-jj1js
@lee-jj1js Год назад
Cleopatra plays red eyed black american deck.
@brockdavid
@brockdavid Год назад
Oh, no I’ve played the Blue Eyes White Privilege Dragon. ;D
@georgek5737
@georgek5737 Год назад
Lol nice one
@visualizestudios84
@visualizestudios84 Год назад
HAHAHA awesome comment!
@jinho_sshi
@jinho_sshi Год назад
Haha this wins the internet
@fantasyskeep
@fantasyskeep Год назад
Jada Pinket Smith, fighting racism with more racism. Fantastic.
@KK-bc8gt
@KK-bc8gt Год назад
how's it racist if shes half white half black? Do we ignore the half white side just because she has colour to her skin? Her mum must be disgusted by all the undercover racists
@Hesienberg2020
@Hesienberg2020 Год назад
Exactly what most of them do, people getting tired of the black washing
@KK-bc8gt
@KK-bc8gt Год назад
@@Hesienberg2020 Can you explain how someone half white and half black is black?
@Hesienberg2020
@Hesienberg2020 Год назад
@@KK-bc8gt are you referring to Adele James? Because pretty much black bro and everyone refers her as black so wym?
@Hesienberg2020
@Hesienberg2020 Год назад
@@KK-bc8gt like are you saying she’s white?😂
@Goedendag28
@Goedendag28 Год назад
My grandmother told me “I don’t care what they tell you in school… Winston Churchill was a transgender Sudanese man”
@Goedendag28
@Goedendag28 Год назад
@@RylieBread No historical figure dead or alive can escape the wrath of Jada Pinkett Smith!
@Highostrich
@Highostrich Год назад
Don't you mean Sugondese?
@agentarcher2542
@agentarcher2542 Год назад
Remember family guy Meg and Chris replaced by sudanese.
@mauliafajarpurwanto4845
@mauliafajarpurwanto4845 Год назад
Sabilulungan was his favorite song
@jamiek1714
@jamiek1714 4 месяца назад
"No matter what they tell you in school" is a dangerous, slippery slope.
@Haharino
@Haharino Месяц назад
No matter what biology tells you, a man can get pregnant and identify as 'them' ... just imagine it and it's true
@Ididitlikethis2079
@Ididitlikethis2079 Год назад
Not So Fun Fact: One of the directors behind the Cleopatra documentary, claimed that she was psychic and that Cleopatra’s dead spirit had visited her in a dream.
@lmahu6627
@lmahu6627 Год назад
What makes this funnier is that Shelley Haley, the old lady who cited her grandmother, made that claim.
@jensmarkgraf
@jensmarkgraf Год назад
uuuh, that sounds like... a dark dream
@nuria.l-l-9827
@nuria.l-l-9827 Год назад
To hunt her house until they retract this shit, i supose
@kuribayashi84
@kuribayashi84 Год назад
You know, this reminds me of a tidbit about the production of the 1981-Movie "Inchon" I came across on wikipedia: _" In 1978, psychic Jeanne Dixon was consulted to communicate with the spirit of General MacArthur, and Dixon said that MacArthur's spirit endorsed the production of the film."_ You might know this, but "Inchon" was a notorious disaster at the box office.
@Ididitlikethis2079
@Ididitlikethis2079 Год назад
@@kuribayashi84 “Inchon” sounds like a completely retarded movie.
@gatedancer17
@gatedancer17 Год назад
Saying Cleopatra is black because she was born on the Continent of Africa is like saying that General George Patton is an Apache because he was born in North America.
@yukongetit4603
@yukongetit4603 7 месяцев назад
Its like saying Spanish people and Russians are the same because they are European
@tagir9123
@tagir9123 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, I mean, did they get their education from Mean Girls or smt?
@danielpayumo722
@danielpayumo722 6 месяцев назад
The Afrikaners are white but they were born in South Africa ha ha ha
@Creym464
@Creym464 6 месяцев назад
or telling elon musk he is black because he is from south african , even if he was real and show billion of us that he is white
@Frosty_tha_Snowman
@Frosty_tha_Snowman 6 месяцев назад
I interpreted "Apache" as the Apache Helicopter, and it made this comment even funnier 😂
@damascusraven
@damascusraven Год назад
"Why do some people need Cleopatra to be white?" So close. SO CLOSE to self-awareness. Just ask yourself that question, but ask why YOU, Jada, need her to be black when she wasn't?
@dixonhill1108
@dixonhill1108 Год назад
There's a definitive reason ironically, she was literally a european ruling an african nation. They just white washed Greco Roman history, we probably should be thanking them. It's so ironic that a great example of europeans literally enslaving africans get's turned on its head.
@deleteman900
@deleteman900 Год назад
The part that gets me, tbh, is how the showrunner lady says something to the effect of "We don't know that she was black for sure, but we for sure know she wasn't white like Elizabeth Taylor" It's just... the logic literally doesn't work. The only way to know for sure she wasn't white is if you for sure know what she is. If you don't for sure know she was black, how can you for sure know that she wasn't white? Like... you get what I mean, right?
@yonghominale8884
@yonghominale8884 Год назад
That's an excellent question. Nefertiti is the one associated with the Black power movement and Black Feminism. Cleopatra was seen as too white.
@yonghominale8884
@yonghominale8884 Год назад
@@deleteman900 We don' t know what Cleopatra looks like thanks to Cleopatra. She would change her appearance based on her circumstance. She actually dressed like a Roman Matron when she was in Rome. She looks more "Greek" in Sculptures and coins because she probably ordered the artist to do so.
@RoninDave
@RoninDave Год назад
The weird undertones of the whole black civilization thing sounds eerily similar to the Ayran myths of the Nazis. Afrocentrism have created this mythology where all the ancient was black including Greece stretching all the way to Japan as though there were some kind of homogeneous connection to it all and something to be proud of while indignant it was stolen and hidden from them - again similar to the Ayran myths. Funny thing is this black identity means little in Africa North or sub-saharan. It's primarily an American thing
@GarrettWebster-mx5wx
@GarrettWebster-mx5wx 3 месяца назад
Let’s be honest all the “research “ they did was say “cleopatra was in Egypt , Egypt is in Africa , ergo cleopatra was black “
@Raymoiful
@Raymoiful Год назад
I am an archaeologist and I can say that the fictional movie from half a century ago with Elizabeth Taylor was much, and I mean MUCH more historically accurate than this "documentary". I dont mean just the casting. Cleopatra VII, Marcus Antonius, Julius Caesar were portrayed in the 1963 movie closely to how historical sources described their characters. The costumes were sometimes very decadent (especially Taylors), yet still clearly inspired by Egyptian, Roman and Greek fashion and some were actual copies (we can see Roman toga praetexta, toga virilis, Greek Macedonian cuirass etc). The settings were impressively well done (part of the movie was set in original locations in Egypt and Rome). And there was attention to details, you can see the ancient customs like libation, sacrifice, discussion of battle strategies or even Caesars illness depicted very well. We can not be certain how ancient Greek, Roman or Egyptian music sounded, but it certainly was more appropriately depicted in the old movie than in this documentary, where we see Cleopatra swing her swords to sound of African tribal drums... come on now. So it is kind of ironic that they are dissing this half century old movie for historical inaccuracy when it was actually created with a lot more respect and dare I say knowledge about this fascinating historical figure and time period.
@darthdaddy3071
@darthdaddy3071 Год назад
I love it when these activists try to color history with their modern biases (no pun intended). The modern understanding of "white" did not exist back then in the way we understand it today, especially in the Mediterranean, which was essentially one big melting pot. Cleopatra was probably swarthy, like many women in the Mediterranean, but she was DEFINITELY not a "melanated sister."
@phyrr2
@phyrr2 Год назад
@@darthdaddy3071 Correct. Back then, all of the "Whites" were very much killing each other off for being Etruscan, Greek, Thracian or whatever else. All "White" by today's definition but obviously they didn't give a damn.
@jaxsazerac4904
@jaxsazerac4904 Год назад
Blacks don't have any history to be proud of. If they did. They wouldn't have too culturally appropriate other people's history.
@real-nt9qy
@real-nt9qy Год назад
Honestly you try hard to portray yourself as this intelligent man. But your just a guy on the couch drunk most of the time typing on youtube.
@real-nt9qy
@real-nt9qy Год назад
​@@darthdaddy3071 so who are the giant statues of black people . we know that cleopatra was after Egypt was abandon so she probally wasent but those Pharoahs that look like NBA players..who are they
@ChaosGaming965
@ChaosGaming965 Год назад
I still can't believe Netflix is actively trying to tell Egypt their wrong, I feel they would know their own historical figures better than an American Based Streaming Service
@NFS0038
@NFS0038 Год назад
The funniest thing is modern Egyptians are Arabs, so they don't even have any stake in the Greek dynasties or even the original ancient Egyptians. The modern Egyptians complaining is purely from historical inaccuracy, not even a you vs me thing.
@decorumlopez9147
@decorumlopez9147 Год назад
Careful now, Jada don't like backtalk.
@markkelly9621
@markkelly9621 Год назад
@@Grasslander Actually, as I understand it, Egyptians are not Arabs, they are ethnic Egyptians, even though they do speak Arabic.
@roym4457
@roym4457 Год назад
@@NFS0038 you do realize we have mummies and modern egyptians so we can do DNA tests right?
@hiamaraldvaan7221
@hiamaraldvaan7221 Год назад
I cant believe theynotmake movie about black Moses or Noah
@abdoomar-jx9pm
@abdoomar-jx9pm Год назад
the idea about Africans Americans telling me about my own history that they obviously have nothing to do with never ceases to amaze me
@delinquentis9971
@delinquentis9971 Год назад
That's just what americans do in general. They tell the whole world what is right and what is wrong.
@danciagar
@danciagar Год назад
@@delinquentis9971 Yep, this a continuation of the same echo chamber that ride America quasi-monopoly on global cinema and popular arts to push their world views into others. This Cleopatra and Lizzie's one where made in the same echo chamber, just with different people abusing the same "reach" for similar core purposes.
@fadlisani2080
@fadlisani2080 Год назад
Dont worry buddy, we respect your culture that has been inherited by your ancestors. Don't listen to an uncultured country, even they ancestor was from cross atlantic.
@CommodoreJ
@CommodoreJ Год назад
@@williamsmith9948 I'm from northern Cali. The south is an absolute fuckfest. You know the place is messed up when there's so much smog you can't even see the sky on a clear day.
@saberlily1954
@saberlily1954 Год назад
Here is the thing and you may disagree because I'm also American but I don't agree with the sentiment that it's just your "own history that they obviously have nothing to do with." I personally think it's more complicated then that. America carries over the western tradition and spirit that tends to start historically with the Greeks our laws and culture are fundamentally rooted in Greco-Roman culture, ethics and morals just like the rest of the west. So without places like Athens and Rome and men like Cicero and Cincinnatus the United States would likely not have the form it has today since it was their history that led to our founders making many of the decisions they did. So I can't agree that its just YOUR history when its that very history that is responsible for my own. Now this is just my opinion but the problem is more that Black Americans have been manipulated by certain corrupt institutions into believing that they can't possible identify with non Black individuals. But they want to identify with this history because it is the history of the culture they are a part of, so they do things like this to make it easier for them.
@haileybinger7196
@haileybinger7196 Год назад
Honestly the main issue was the the were saying that it was a documentary. Like Hell no it’s not! A documentary is meant to share the facts not a fantasy created by a lady who cheated on her husband.
@CyberHardcore-z7g
@CyberHardcore-z7g Год назад
As a Greek-Egyptian man, I went my entire life not knowing I was black. I thank the Queen Cleopatra show for revealing to me my true black heritage ❤
@mothichorror446
@mothichorror446 Год назад
Jada really handing out N cards here
@doppel5627
@doppel5627 Год назад
You are not black! You are African American!
@rogerborg
@rogerborg Год назад
Well, go and loot yourself some Nikes and a big screen TV. It's your culture.
@vadaspikas9940
@vadaspikas9940 Год назад
@@FlaviusConstantinus306 is coptic even a culture ? i was sure it was a religion :D
@BryanSMudd
@BryanSMudd Год назад
Do you feel oppressed now?
@P.k.c781
@P.k.c781 Год назад
I feel personally attacked that cleopatra wasn't properly portrayed as an Vietnamese woman as she clearly was
@camelotenglishtuition6394
@camelotenglishtuition6394 Год назад
Outrage, she was 1/4 Thai.
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus Год назад
Nope. She's a historical person people have heard about so she *must* have been a white man.
@lefu7812
@lefu7812 Год назад
All hail trans Cleopatra 🤢
@fernandofaria2872
@fernandofaria2872 Год назад
Its true. My grandma said so.
@MarinKarin-dj9pm
@MarinKarin-dj9pm Год назад
Cope she was a latina, read more history books you bigotred nerds 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
@HandleH4nd13
@HandleH4nd13 Год назад
if your gran opens a sentence with "don't pay attention in school Cleopatra is black" you know shes too far gone and probably senile
@meowco69
@meowco69 Год назад
Meemaw type to lay off the cat food.
@redliondeaddeer
@redliondeaddeer Год назад
Grammy got dat dementia😅
@jjkrayenhagen
@jjkrayenhagen Год назад
And yet at the same time, kids are being taught that boys can be girls just because they feel like it in schools now.
@ElGrabnar
@ElGrabnar Год назад
It's literally just the meme "Cleopatra was black." "Ok grandma let's get you to bed"
@elliotjames1273
@elliotjames1273 Год назад
And racist
@Soumyadeepchatterjee749
@Soumyadeepchatterjee749 11 месяцев назад
I showed this to my sister and she was like, "wasn't Cleopatra beautiful?"
@peeyushverma2284
@peeyushverma2284 10 месяцев назад
@@wheatyes2104 did you hear it from your grandma as well?
@wheatyes2104
@wheatyes2104 10 месяцев назад
@@peeyushverma2284 nah, I think it was from "extra history" but I could be wrong. I'll delete the comment if I am wrong
@peeyushverma2284
@peeyushverma2284 10 месяцев назад
​@@wheatyes2104 i wrote that reply in zest. Anyways, extra history came to that conclusion after looking at her face in the coins..but the faces (of her and the husband) in those coins were butt ugly tbh. The faces were probably romanized to cater public, as they usually are..hence, the prominent nose and chin, along with other characteristics associated with it. The truth is, we don't actually know how she would look like as we don't have her skeleton to look at. Most paintings and statues are artist's imagination than the real deal.
@wheatyes2104
@wheatyes2104 10 месяцев назад
@@peeyushverma2284 That's fair. I guess the same with Queen Elizabeth 1, since we don't know if she was romantized either. It's nice to talk to a rational person
@SavouryGalette
@SavouryGalette 10 месяцев назад
Damn, your sister is a savage.
@MountainRaven1960
@MountainRaven1960 Год назад
Cleopatra was Irish! Her name was actually Clea O’Patra. Why not? My grandma told me!
@ZachSawyer2077
@ZachSawyer2077 Год назад
Genius
@TheElectra5000
@TheElectra5000 Год назад
This is too good!! 🤣🤣🤣
@ОльгаАйнанэ
@ОльгаАйнанэ Год назад
Nope. She was Russian. And her name was Cleya Patrovna.
@MmmGallicus
@MmmGallicus Год назад
No, she was French. Her real name was Clé au Pâtre. My grandma told me so.
@crashedforeigncar
@crashedforeigncar Год назад
Nah, she was actually a guy named Claus O'Peter. It was revealed to me in a dream
@CEAsfg
@CEAsfg Год назад
I can’t wait for these new historical documentaries!: - Hitler starring Idris Elba - Martin Luther King Jr. starring Ryan Gosling - Melissa McCarthy as Ghandi - Jackie Chan as Rosa Parks - Taylor Swift as Harriet Tubman - Shaq as Queen Elizabeth - Lizzo as Frida Kahlo - Rupaul Charles as Joseph Stalin
@NIDELLANEUM
@NIDELLANEUM Год назад
Okay, I need to ask: how come every time someone makes this, Ryan Gosling is ALWAYS fancasted as MLK? Is there something I am missing? Like, Gosling saying that he would have loved to play him, or perhaps there's a role where he's pretty much MLK or something
@MaddDogg316
@MaddDogg316 Год назад
​@@NIDELLANEUM, the internet made a meme of a promo poster for an MLK doc with Ryan Gosling as MLK. It's been around for ages.
@NIDELLANEUM
@NIDELLANEUM Год назад
@@MaddDogg316 oh okay, I kinda missed out on that. Felt weird, like "why is ALWAYS him the one chosen as a white MLK?"
@MaddDogg316
@MaddDogg316 Год назад
@@NIDELLANEUM , lol. NP 🤘.
@tripleh327
@tripleh327 Год назад
i would honestly pay to see rosa park portrayed by jakie chan and kicking ass right and left during the civil right movement era
@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
Cleopatra is literally a Greek woman, these guys literally are the definiton of "Trust me Bro"
@kenshin891
@kenshin891 Год назад
​@AliciaJade.Booo wheres the potato recipie?
@XParasiteOctoling
@XParasiteOctoling Год назад
“We have Cleopatra at home”
@SuperCatacata
@SuperCatacata Год назад
Didn't realize documentaries could be pure fiction now. All while claiming to still be true.
@bavariancarenthusiast2722
@bavariancarenthusiast2722 Год назад
Well yes she was with Macedonian ancestors and Egyptian, both
@cw1217
@cw1217 Год назад
We Wuz Kangz 'n Sheeeeit
@23Prospero37
@23Prospero37 2 месяца назад
A friend of mine was an editor of an Egyptology magazine. He was being escorted to a newly found tomb on the Giza plateau when they went past a a famous science/archeology magazine's documentary team. My friend heard the producer of the show shout at some of the staff. "We don't have to worry if its true or not, our viewers are idiots and they will never know." So it is nothing new.
@BotNickz
@BotNickz Год назад
Fun fact, Cleopatra was incredibly well educated and the first in her family to actually speak Egyptian. Everyone in the Ptolemaic dynasty spoke Greek because they were all descendants of a Greek general who served under Alexander the Great.
@aminamemic2141
@aminamemic2141 Год назад
YES, they were Greek. So, not black. How nobody from Netflix doesn't know history or at least to research a bit?
@honkeykong4049
@honkeykong4049 Год назад
​@@aminamemic2141 Naive of you to think they weren't fully aware of what they were doing.
@Kekoa552
@Kekoa552 Год назад
YOU GUYS ARE JUST MAD CUZ SHE BLACK JUST SAY IT IT DOWSNT MATTER THE SKIN COLOR
@SanjaySharma-iq6we
@SanjaySharma-iq6we Год назад
@@Kekoa552 when we don’t know properly where she is buried a debate on her skin tone is useless
@SanjaySharma-iq6we
@SanjaySharma-iq6we Год назад
@@aminamemic2141 they might have some traces of middle eastern Persian and African ancestry with Greek being more prominent
@teacup9048
@teacup9048 Год назад
As an Egyptian I feel disgusted knowing that these people are rewriting my history to suit their own needs and political 'correctness'. Cleopatra was Macedonian Greek and to say otherwise considering the continuous historical evidence is simply blind and ignorant. They are hiding under the guise of inclusivity to insult and demean my culture, and I'm not standing for it. It hurts to see their 'cleopatra' being the first image to pop up on the Google search of her name.
@turbo8628
@turbo8628 Год назад
On the bright side, all i knew about cleopatra was that she was supposedly incredibly beautiful... now i know she wasn't a great leader and a lot about her ancestry and life.
@hasithagayalambattaya8929
@hasithagayalambattaya8929 Год назад
I can feel your pain mate! The west has to (not everyone) force their ideals somewhere else! We even look up to the ancient Egypt as a great civilization despite our own civilization which has craziest hydrological advancements (South Asia). But it seems they can't respond to their social issues with proper solutions. Instead, they distort the culture & history of nations & people which had done nothing wrong to them.
@turbo8628
@turbo8628 Год назад
@@hasithagayalambattaya8929 the west is a very strange term to use when referring to hollywood.
@hasithagayalambattaya8929
@hasithagayalambattaya8929 Год назад
@@turbo8628 My bad! I was referring to say Hollywood. But still, Sometimes the "west" term is also valid. At least for the US context that is.
@turbo8628
@turbo8628 Год назад
@@hasithagayalambattaya8929 it's ok. I kind of assume that everyone means america anyway. I am from england... we are hated for plenty of reasons, but hollywood isn't one of them at least 😅
@Biscuits..
@Biscuits.. Год назад
“People weren’t mad when ‘The Mummy’ depicted mummies inaccurately” is perhaps the funniest argument I’ve seen for this show
@MoonWerewolfAir
@MoonWerewolfAir Год назад
They legit thought a Universal Monster Movie reboot was the same as a Docudrama series 💀
@KoeSeer
@KoeSeer Год назад
The Mummy never said it's a documentary. Plus, egyptian actually loved how they portrayed 1920s Cairo and it looks quite accurate
@niamtxiv
@niamtxiv Год назад
A fictional movie is not the same as a documentary.
@chase5860
@chase5860 Год назад
And the irony is that Arnold Vosloo, albeit being South African, I felt had a very convincing Egyptian look to him. This is just a disgrace.
@Icetea-2000
@Icetea-2000 Год назад
Yeah they obviously didn’t want people to believe that mummies can come back from the dead and absorb the souls of people or that scarabs can eat people from the inside out lmao.
@UlfhedinnNorsk
@UlfhedinnNorsk 9 месяцев назад
“I don’t care what history says, Cleopatra was black”. Is quite accurate. One of my students actually said the same about Wakanda 🤨
@jakomioftherose2434
@jakomioftherose2434 8 месяцев назад
But my friends friend's cousin's grandpa said both Wakanda and MLK Jr were white!
@kiaheat1920
@kiaheat1920 Месяц назад
@@jakomioftherose2434 sarcasm?
@davidpaz9389
@davidpaz9389 Год назад
Queen Cleopatra is as faithful to history as Jada is to Will.
@richardhockey8442
@richardhockey8442 Год назад
rates at the 'purged with holy fire' level of burn :)
@pradhyudh
@pradhyudh Год назад
Hail davidpaz Hail davidpaz
@dannyayala3462
@dannyayala3462 Год назад
BURRRRRNNNN!!!
@beloved-child
@beloved-child Год назад
Someone did ur comment earlier, and written better. This is on par with "did iiiiii doooo that" 5 years after family matters
@aswinvv666
@aswinvv666 Год назад
Heyy!! Will Smith is a cuckold by choice...accept the lifestyle people.😅
@JMetz
@JMetz Год назад
To produce a show after Velma that is worse than Velma is an accomplishment of epic proportions.
@Rakshiir
@Rakshiir Год назад
The one thing that tells you enough about this show is the rotten tomatoes score. We are used to low audience scores by now due to movies and shows simply not being good, or being inaccurate lorewise to a franchise. But the fact that VERY few critics actually watched this and those that does also dislike it tells you alot. Usually they love character changes as long as they are in a ...certain way. But even they knew this is to hot to handle, or: lying about how good this is would be even worse compared to other projects so they either didn't watch it or had enough intelligence to not praise it.
@valentin7693
@valentin7693 Год назад
Velma is from HBO, this is from Netflix
@JMetz
@JMetz Год назад
@@valentin7693 Correct. I was speaking to the general ambition.
@josepnebotrius872
@josepnebotrius872 Год назад
It looked impossible. But they managed to do it. The best "Grab my beer I have seen in a lot of time". Is like an underdog wining a major League like. Bournemouth, West Ham or Nottingham forest winning 23/24 Premier League.
@fuucaran
@fuucaran Год назад
Velma is horrible but it's kinda funny how hard it tries to be funny. Also the fact that the writers are forcing their political biases in every other line, makes it somewhat entertaining to watch. I definitely wouldn't watch it again though.
@KoongYe
@KoongYe Год назад
Imagine casting an Asian actor for princess Anastasia because Russia is mostly located in Asia.
@fairfortune67
@fairfortune67 Год назад
My wife is European Russian and I tell her she's Asian because of that very fact. For some reason she gets offended by that😆
@hounddog2952
@hounddog2952 Год назад
Imagine allowing the ones who's been exiled from over 100 countries embed themselves in governments throughout the entire world to destroy Jesus Christ creation.
@AntediluvianRomance
@AntediluvianRomance Год назад
We are the Scythians! We are the slit-eyed Asians! - Although Blok was also wrong. 😊
@damnson0813
@damnson0813 Год назад
@@fairfortune67 key word European Russian you are literally calling her something she isnt most of russias population is in Europe and the rest was conquered during the 16th and 17th century
@dickmelsonlupot7697
@dickmelsonlupot7697 Год назад
It's not exactly that bad of an argument since technically speaking, Russians are indeed "Asians" to an extent. And "Asian" is a very broad term since it means anyone from Asia. What you need to say is either "EAST ASIAN" or anyone from the 6 major chink eyed-eyed i.e. China, Taiwan, North & South Korea, Japan and Mongolia. And why settle for an "Asian actor". Why not cast Kim Jong Un as Anastasia? It's more inclusive and ticks the best boxes especially if Kim identifies as a lesbian attack helicopter. And anyone who's against it is a racist, misogynist and a bigot.
@oscars4608
@oscars4608 8 месяцев назад
I don’t understand why they wouldn’t just choose an actual black queen to examine and document rather than blatantly lie about a well known figure? They would be simultaneously bring previously unknown figures into the spotlight whilst respecting the actual history. It’s almost as if they saw an easy piece of advertising that they could use to push politics…
@brandoncady7043
@brandoncady7043 Год назад
I remember my granddad telling me, "I don't care what they tell you in school, Genghis Khan was John Wayne."
@italianknight78
@italianknight78 Год назад
The Caucasus mountains are in Asia. So in fact Genghis Kahn was white.
@fredgarv79
@fredgarv79 Год назад
now I know why I have never heard of or seen this genhis kahn movie, it must be hilarious. It might be worth it to watch just to laugh at the duke playing kahn. Back then, they would portray an obviously jewish guy from new york as a native american, just put some makeup on him, it will be fine
@jlev1028
@jlev1028 Год назад
​​​@@italianknight78 Genghis came from Mongolia, idiot. He wasn't a Hun like Atilla.
@White_Wrath
@White_Wrath Год назад
Happy thanksgiving pilgrims
@stormryder4305
@stormryder4305 Год назад
My grandma told me, "Attila the Hun, Caligula, Ivan the terrible, and Vlad the Impaler were all black women. All of them were Jada Pinkett Smith's self inserts."
@adamjames8854
@adamjames8854 Год назад
I've never understood the logic behind the whole, "I'm the same color as a person who achieved something so I get to claim that as if it's an extension of my achievements" mindset lmao
@BWMagus
@BWMagus Год назад
Honestly, it's sort of weird in general, being proud of the past; even if I was a direct descendent of a hero, like, so? I wasn't the one who did whatever he or she did, it's not right for me to get my sense of self-worth based on their accomplishments. I really only care enough to counter when people try to tell me to be ashamed of myself because of the past.
@tapejara1507
@tapejara1507 Год назад
Its the weaklings mindset
@michaelleary8694
@michaelleary8694 Год назад
Yes!!! Absolutely!
@nulnoh219
@nulnoh219 Год назад
Right. Their whole mantra is "I'm special and unique" but need to see someone physically similar to themselves to feel "represented"
@beepboopbeepp
@beepboopbeepp Год назад
It’s something thats very unique to black americans, you don’t see real africans doing it because they know their indentity. Certain black americans wanna make their history something that is proud and not filled with pain i guess so they make up stuff like this.
@cappadocius9379
@cappadocius9379 Год назад
It is impressive they managed to make a show more hated than Velma
@quickman2663
@quickman2663 Год назад
And in the same year no less.
@rhondae8222
@rhondae8222 Год назад
As a Black woman, I'm sick of Black and White movie makers using biracial and mixed-race actresses to play the role of Black actresses. For example, Halle Berry, Zendaya, Zoey Zaldana, Paula Patton, and many others should not be used to play or represent Black women. There needs to be more Black actresses in movies with lead roles. Black women are fed up with seeing biracial and mixed-race women such as Halle Berry, Zendaya, Zoe Zaldana, and Paula Patton portraying Black women. As far as I'm concerned, Netflix is promoting everybody except Black women, and everybody knows this. This is why I do not watch or support movies that use fake Black women to play real Black women. These are examples of real Black women: Viola Davis, Lupita Nyong'o, Alfre Woodard, Javicia Leslie, Keke Palmer, Kimberly Elise, Kiki Lane, Lovie Simone, Keshia Knight Pulliam, Tika Sumpter, Skai Jackson, Ryan Destiny, Regina King, Nia Long, Angela Bassett, Brandy, etc. Smh
@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro
@@rhondae8222 so, these women who are at least partially black aren’t black enough for you to permit them to admit their own heritage? That seems awfully colorist, if not actually racist, to me. Why not just let all those women, both light and dark skinned, play black characters?
@gp5039
@gp5039 Год назад
And they are all beautiful and talented. I totally agree with you.
@user-uq9se1nx9q
@user-uq9se1nx9q Год назад
It is not about "permit", it is about accuracy of representation. Obviously, we can not expect filmmakers to track the character's ancestry to n'th degree, and find a suitable actress - but at some point, it definitely feels "eh, close enough"
@spider7665
@spider7665 11 месяцев назад
My Grandfather's best friend's friend said that "No matter what anyone say to you, Alexander the Great was a Sri Lankan". Someone make a documentary now.
@dezmundtv962
@dezmundtv962 Год назад
Jada uses the phrase "Entanglement" to describe how she twists the truth to fit her version of history, instead of depicting it how it should be.
@whos-the-stiff
@whos-the-stiff Год назад
Called cheating on her husband an entanglement too. She liked that word, I think she thinks it makes her sound deep and mysterious.
@ArchmageOfAnarchy
@ArchmageOfAnarchy Год назад
Unless it's quantum entanglement, it's still not the truth
@bshinn4884
@bshinn4884 Год назад
They actually did something even more hilarious. They talked about Njinga, an African queen that "successfully fought off Portugese colonialism" but doesn't mention the 200,000 captive people she sold into slavery to the same country 😂 Because that's inconvenient and doesn't fit the narrative of "only white people did this"
@wowcbi
@wowcbi 7 месяцев назад
What's your point Blacks sold slaves to whites Blacks who didn't comply with slave trade would be attacked by other black tribes supported by whites in forms of soldiers and weapons Romans conquered killed and took slaves Slavery is a stain on human history Black slavery is one of the most disgusting immoral thing a group of people have ever done, Calling out blacks for the african part of the slave trade, are you trying to absolve white people by making them not look as bad Laughing at the african queen because she was involved in slavery, and so accurate to 200000 based on what, Look at the Spanish to the south Americans, loads can be listed when talking about what white people have done
@criticallard2090
@criticallard2090 7 месяцев назад
Oh wow that's pretty bad on her part. Sold people off for money... Meanwhile, the Netflix "docs" wash over the facts about these historical figures. Those shows are pure fiction if they don't even try to make it historically accurate.
@sauronthemighty3985
@sauronthemighty3985 6 месяцев назад
Still better than starring someone who was almost certainly not black in a series about black queens.
@CorePathway
@CorePathway 5 месяцев назад
The North African Barbary pirates were capturing and enslaving white people well into the 1800’s. That’s why the US Marine Corps hymn sings of the “shores of Tripoli”.
@midgetydeath
@midgetydeath 5 месяцев назад
White people didn’t even do the slavery thing. Not in the way people see as evil. Slaves were prisoners of war so captives couldn’t form a new army or criminals working off their debt to society. Or in Rome, people could sell themselves into carefully protected slavery for a time to pay off debts. Slavery the way the world thinks of it and in terms of raiding people to enslave them is an African and Arabian thing. There’s also evidence that white people learned slavery from them.
@alkaholic4848
@alkaholic4848 Год назад
5:50 I remember my grandmother saying to me “I don't care what they tell you at school, they did use automatic rifles during the rise of the Roman Empire." She was also convinced the neighbours dog was plotting against her. Lovely lady tho. When she wasn't drinking.
@b1battledroid476
@b1battledroid476 Год назад
Built from tried and true Ancient Texts and technical documents, armalite designed their series of weapons to be built just like the Romans intended
@dedsussybaka4619
@dedsussybaka4619 Год назад
My grandpa once told me the persians were using tiger tanks but the romans were able to hold them oh yea forget he also told me thera are ONLY 30 romans but they are able to defend the maginot line using javelins and pushing the persian back to their homeland, the underground world (persians are actually lizars people living under our ground)
@szeplakizeta9372
@szeplakizeta9372 Год назад
My grandpa told me that Mansa Musa, the (probably) richest man of all time was not black, but descendant of arabic merchants.
@Andy1805-y8w
@Andy1805-y8w Год назад
Lovely lady tho. When she wasn't drinking. Which was often.
@T4LL3R
@T4LL3R Год назад
Hey, if you've seen the new Indiana Jones movie then it's entirely plausible that Romans used WW2 era German weaponry.
@Fitchy-ke3wz
@Fitchy-ke3wz 8 месяцев назад
Not a single writer thought to check historical records and see that She WAS GREEK
@younger544
@younger544 Год назад
They really thought that "My grandma told me no matter waht they tell you in school..." line was good. Like it was a mic drop sentence. They were so proud of it.
@bin_made_of_fur
@bin_made_of_fur Год назад
And that's the opposite of what the historian actually said! It's selective editing.
@blkshp25
@blkshp25 Год назад
"All right, let's hear what Mama has to say on the subject." - Colonel Sanders
@iLastStar
@iLastStar Год назад
lol
@Noodles.Doodles
@Noodles.Doodles Год назад
@@bin_made_of_fur ​ As I said elsewhere, you did not provide a complete quote, so I had to find the following. It's all justification for her childhood belief, with a strawman thrown in. Claiming that 'the historian said the opposite' of 'Cleopatra was black' is misleading at best, and a lie at worst. "But, ultimately, Haley says in the series, “We don’t know her exact racial heritage.” “She learned the Egyptian language. She practiced the Egyptian religion,” Haley says in the docudrama. “She wants to be remembered as an Egyptian.” “Ancient Egyptians would have had a variety of different complexions, as we find in other African cultures today,” adds Cleopatra scholar Sally-Ann Ashton, also featured in the series. “Given that Cleopatra represents herself as an Egyptian, it seems very strange that we insist on depicting her as a wholly European.”" www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2023/05/12/queen-cleopatra-looks-netflix-controversy/
@Noodles.Doodles
@Noodles.Doodles Год назад
@@bin_made_of_fur Erratum: the strawman is not Haley's, but Ashton's. Ashton's quote is, however, necessary to give essential context to Haley's usage of 'Egyptian'.
@ZachBusch
@ZachBusch Год назад
ACTUAL QUOTE from the director: "Most of all, we need to realize that Cleopatra’s story is less about her than it is about who we are."
@sycariummoonshine7134
@sycariummoonshine7134 Год назад
wow, really? no wayyy. x_x
@chrispham6599
@chrispham6599 Год назад
He made a show called Cleopatra but the story will not be about Cleopatra...
@Sergeant_Fury
@Sergeant_Fury Год назад
Then the director should have done a documentary about himself.
@SolidGoldCEO
@SolidGoldCEO Год назад
I mean, haven't we all poisoned a sibling to gain a throne at some point?
@Sergeant_Fury
@Sergeant_Fury Год назад
@@SolidGoldCEO I know I have!
@rawheadrex1972
@rawheadrex1972 Год назад
I think the best depiction of Cleopatra was in the HBO “Rome” series. A smart, cunning, ruthless, desperate woman who played the cards dealt to her until it all caved in on her and Antony. Oh, and the actress looked Greek, which was a great attention to detail.
@sand451
@sand451 Год назад
Very underrrated show. And yes, amazing Cleopatra there.
@shonfrost8781
@shonfrost8781 Год назад
true, and cleopatra was part of greek royal family in egypt that originated in alexender the great army during conquest of the known world she was a descendent of prob one of the generals of alexander
@tankwfw
@tankwfw Год назад
Not a movie/TV show, but her portrayal in Assassins Creed Origins was also pretty cool
@DiannM1917
@DiannM1917 Год назад
That was a brilliant series. Cleopatra was great although I think she was much prettier than real life Cleopatra.
@braxxian
@braxxian Год назад
Agreed. She was excellent.
@jnmortell66
@jnmortell66 2 дня назад
My uncle's ex-wife's cousin's former roommate's gym coach once said to me, "I don't care what they tell you at school...Napoleon Bonaparte was Chinese."
@ithyphal
@ithyphal Год назад
Beside everything else, how is Cleopatra an overlooked historical figure? Aren't there like 50 Hollywood movies with or about her?
@BEE-oz7yd
@BEE-oz7yd Год назад
Watching this video made me realize that I don't actually know many black historical women who were leaders of Nations! Maybe if Netflix could put some effort into its documentaries they wouldn't be so overlooked!
@kintamas4425
@kintamas4425 Год назад
She’s taught in world history. Her and the General in the Roman Civil war were the second faction of two against Octavian. Gave Romeo and Juliet vibes with their deaths, but they were more kickass. This show could have been great…
@jasonluckett2263
@jasonluckett2263 Год назад
They needed at least one story that every one had heard of before to hook people into the series
@DeadPiixxel
@DeadPiixxel Год назад
And they didn't have a problem with her being casted as white all 50x
@dementeddoom2425
@dementeddoom2425 Год назад
@@DeadPiixxel Why would they? She was white after all LOL
@akaflint10
@akaflint10 Год назад
RIGHT ON! The documentary is more about Jada's political agenda than it is about actual history.
@rphntw1n
@rphntw1n Год назад
And ALL of these weirdo’s fantasies. This was green lit and worked on by a lot of them. They all really thought this was a good idea.
@feeltherush310
@feeltherush310 Год назад
Her agenda should be, not fucking her children's friends.
@IndyCrewInNYC
@IndyCrewInNYC Год назад
Never believe a word from a woman who literally looks like a serpent 🐍
@hounddog2952
@hounddog2952 Год назад
Everything yr told bout history is a lie.
@sizzxrk
@sizzxrk Год назад
Jada is an awful, awful, awful person.
@OldHickoryTN
@OldHickoryTN Год назад
It warms my heart when people can unite and hate something together, despite our differences
@iguachumontiel
@iguachumontiel Год назад
Damn right.
@rhondae8222
@rhondae8222 Год назад
As a Black woman, I'm sick of Black and White movie makers using biracial and mixed-race actresses to play the role of Black actresses. For example, Halle Berry, Zendaya, Zoey Zaldana, Paula Patton, and many others should not be used to play or represent Black women. There needs to be more Black actresses in movies with lead roles. Black women are fed up with seeing biracial and mixed-race women such as Halle Berry, Zendaya, Zoe Zaldana, and Paula Patton portraying Black women. As far as I'm concerned, Netflix is promoting everybody except Black women, and everybody knows this. This is why I do not watch or support movies that use fake Black women to play real Black women. These are examples of real Black women: Viola Davis, Lupita Nyong'o, Alfre Woodard, Javicia Leslie, Keke Palmer, Kimberly Elise, Kiki Lane, Lovie Simone, Keshia Knight Pulliam, Tika Sumpter, Skai Jackson, Ryan Destiny, Regina King, Nia Long, Angela Bassett, Brandy, etc. Smh
@MostafaSrag
@MostafaSrag Год назад
sometimes all you need is hate
@HarbingerOfBattle
@HarbingerOfBattle 7 месяцев назад
I don’t care what anyone says! Julius Cesar was a Japanese Samurai and I have his katana to prove it, but I’m not gonna show it to you because your internalized racism will make it look like a totally different sword!
@markgcarroll
@markgcarroll Год назад
Director: "It's really important for our sense of culture to highlight these historical figures" Egypt: "Stop trying to rewrite our culture" Director: "Why you so upset lol"
@papabird4425
@papabird4425 Год назад
That's pretty much any child on the internet *puts a lot of effort into being annoying* Why are you so annoyed? Lmao
@wgbhg
@wgbhg Год назад
Please learn History: The Egyptians today are not the Original Egyptians, they are Arabs decendent from the Caliphate conquests of North Africa. Secondly, yes Cleopatra was Mix raced, her farther was a white man ( Ptolemy XII Auletes ) a greek and her mother was Black, despite of the skin colour, she's off her fathers race. I've not watched the Movie but it's really troubling seeing comments of people who don't even understand basic history and base the entire knowledge on Hollywood Norms.
@Lucifixcode
@Lucifixcode Год назад
@@wgbhg Then why is Egypt so upset?
@blackjoker2345
@blackjoker2345 Год назад
@@wgbhg If you're going to complain about revisionism, Don't spout blatant revisionism. Cleopatra's mother is uncertain. She could have been a relative or sister of her father Ptolemy XII. We don't know, nor is it even certain whether she was legitimate or not. Her father was a bastard himself, but who's to say where his mother came from? There is no definite evidence although many scholars have ventured guesses. What we do have to go off of makes it clear she would have been any of acedonian Greeks, Persians, Sogdians and even Pontic nobility, but her being "Mixed Black" is astronomically unlikely.
@wgbhg
@wgbhg Год назад
@@Lucifixcode Becasue they can't accept the truth, they are not the Eygytians, they all are arabs. They even have a arab league...... How can you claim to be both an arab and a Eygptian, makes no sense, you can't be two different races of people .
@darkvoid7265
@darkvoid7265 Год назад
I find it funny they wanted a show about unknown female rulers but then chose the one almost everyone knows
@Jayskiallthewayski
@Jayskiallthewayski Год назад
This!
@DeveusBelkan
@DeveusBelkan Год назад
I find it funny they wanted a show about a black ruler but chose a ruler that at the very most, would have been half black. A notion that is less likely than the possibility of her being completely Greek. A notion that also dismisses the possibility that her mother was neither Greek or of sub-Saharan heritage. Many different peoples were present in Egypt.
@iratepirate3896
@iratepirate3896 Год назад
Seriously. They even had Angolan queens they could have gone for.
@darth3261
@darth3261 Год назад
She is the most famous queen of all time. Jada's full of shit as usual.
@snowangelnc
@snowangelnc Год назад
@@iratepirate3896 That would have taken hard work in the research department and trust in the audience's intelligence.
@SomeAustrianGuy_
@SomeAustrianGuy_ Год назад
Remember the tragic yet historic story of Leonidas I and his 300 Spartan men? Yea, truly one of the most famous Korean warriors of all time 🙏
@zzzzzzzzzz_me
@zzzzzzzzzz_me Год назад
Korean amazonian. Don't leave out the lack of Y chromosomes, misogynist.
@xitaris5981
@xitaris5981 Год назад
They were so brave defending against Christopher Columbus and the White tyranny he brought to South East Asia.
@bdnnijs192
@bdnnijs192 Год назад
​@@MagcargoMan The pundits are probably afraid they get canceled for talking about french black man Gerard Butler portraying a Jewish King.
@vonfaustien3957
@vonfaustien3957 Год назад
@@MagcargoMan I complained they ignored the thousands of greeks who fought and died alongside the Spartans. Well that and portraying Persia as monster the greeks were bigger dicks. That said 300 never sold itself as a documentary just historical fiction
@manyinterests1961
@manyinterests1961 Год назад
Lee Oh Nee Dah famous Korean general. Only Koreans might get offended by this shit... Like 100% for sure
@thespirou5461
@thespirou5461 5 месяцев назад
About the true story of the female warriors in "The Woman King". When they clashed with the French army, it was not the regular French army, it was the French Foreign Legion. So they had no chance of winning (behind the guns there were dudes with knives and big mustaches waiting for them, smiling xD)
@stickman-actual9454
@stickman-actual9454 Год назад
Egyptians being lectured about their history by people who have never left the states or their cities is probably the most ironic and hilarious thing this show has brought.
@politics9779
@politics9779 Год назад
Oh they even call egyptians racists now. Oppressed poor US americans with no rights like the smiths.
@CoolMrjames
@CoolMrjames Год назад
Yeah, who does Pinkett Smith think she is... 1955's Head of the British Museum? :P
@magtafcmdr8621
@magtafcmdr8621 Год назад
And then being called racist when they complain about it. It doesn't get much more rediculous.
@Gabi_Citterio
@Gabi_Citterio Год назад
It can always get worse. Some think ancient rome didn't even exist
@ArcticArc1789
@ArcticArc1789 Год назад
Americans in a nutshell
@Spydiggity
@Spydiggity Год назад
Who would have expected that something made by Jada Pickett Smith would be wildly unpopular?
@proto-geek248
@proto-geek248 Год назад
Yea, Will's got a peach there I'll tell ya 🙄
@dsmyify
@dsmyify Год назад
Keep her name out your f'en comments!!
@mrplayfulshade1038
@mrplayfulshade1038 Год назад
​@@dsmyify It was a G.I JANE joke!....
@cstains5543
@cstains5543 Год назад
Anyone unfortunate to see any of her movies or her talentless offspring's ever?
@space_pollution
@space_pollution Год назад
As of right now, Velma has a 1.5/10 on IMDb and an audience score of 7% on Rotten Tomatoes. Cleopatra (2023) has a 1.1/10 on IMDb and an audience score of 2% on Rotten Tomatoes. Imagine being more hated than freaking _Velma!_ That is an achievement.
@gregorytokas8721
@gregorytokas8721 Год назад
It's actually 1%....!
@punchblmers192
@punchblmers192 Год назад
I'm still waiting for Queen Charlotte to get stink. She is at 7.2 right now.
@unenown7082
@unenown7082 Год назад
I'm actually amazed. Didn't think we'd get another addition of dumpster shyte from Hell so soon after but I was wrong!🤯 Wonder what else can get even worse than this this year...
@prodigalpriest
@prodigalpriest Год назад
Oh, SHI-....... NOW you've gone and done it! You just HAD to tempt fate, didn't you?!?
@Blackes_Magic
@Blackes_Magic Год назад
Now we'll probably get a Velma/ Cleopatra crossover.
@alexanderdumas-
@alexanderdumas- 3 месяца назад
In Greek mythology Perseus’s wife Andromeda was the princess of Ethiopia, they don’t care about black royalty they just wanna “reimagine”
@maldo1969
@maldo1969 Год назад
Pinkett Smith being an executive producer says it all.
@rhondae8222
@rhondae8222 Год назад
As a Black woman, I'm sick of Black and White movie makers using biracial and mixed-race actresses to play the role of Black actresses. For example, Halle Berry, Zendaya, Zoey Zaldana, Paula Patton, and many others should not be used to play or represent Black women. There needs to be more Black actresses in movies with lead roles. Black women are fed up with seeing biracial and mixed-race women such as Halle Berry, Zendaya, Zoe Zaldana, and Paula Patton portraying Black women. As far as I'm concerned, Netflix is promoting everybody except Black women, and everybody knows this. This is why I do not watch or support movies that use fake Black women to play real Black women. These are examples of real Black women: Viola Davis, Lupita Nyong'o, Alfre Woodard, Javicia Leslie, Keke Palmer, Kimberly Elise, Kiki Lane, Lovie Simone, Keshia Knight Pulliam, Tika Sumpter, Skai Jackson, Ryan Destiny, Regina King, Nia Long, Angela Bassett, Brandy, etc. Smh
@TURBOSRP
@TURBOSRP Год назад
@@rhondae8222 Trust me. As a white man, I am sick of seeing black men with white women all the time in every commercial. There's always gonna be a mutt-orch in every commercial. The washing of white history is ridiculous because sincerely blacks do not have that much of history recorded and that's their own failure.
@beeazy55
@beeazy55 Год назад
Blah blah shut up nobody wants a black anything 😂
@markusfreund6961
@markusfreund6961 Год назад
@@rhondae8222 Congratulations on not having anything meaningful in your life. Now get over yourself.
@trle964
@trle964 Год назад
@@rhondae8222why should netflix be promoting one race at all? thats black supremacy
@ErehwonMorf
@ErehwonMorf Год назад
If they just refrained from calling their fanfiction a documentary, they would probably have gotten away with it just like they did with Bridgerton
@TimoRutanen
@TimoRutanen Год назад
Could have at least avoided having the country of Egypt sue them or something
@editingsecrets
@editingsecrets Год назад
I think there would have been only 10% the backlash if it was just a played-straight historical fiction drama, that started with a subtitle saying "What if?" Of course that would only have got 10% the notoriety too, so not good enough for a narcissist.
@Nordicat.
@Nordicat. Год назад
Na, it wouldn't have been as bad but Bridgerton wasn't as clear cut on the race thing and isn't anywhere near as famous.
@magenta6754
@magenta6754 Год назад
I find Bridgeton odd. It is a bit creepy that others want to pretend they are British historical aristocracy and appropriate someone else's culture.
@StephensCrazyHour
@StephensCrazyHour Год назад
Bridgerton was never really portrayed as history. It was historical fantasy and quite open about it. It was wildly popular because it had the period trappings that many women love and combined it with modern day politics. It was a show that was targeted at liberal women and was successful because of it.
@pragmaticpundit7703
@pragmaticpundit7703 Год назад
I imagine it's hard for Will to slap any one person since the whole internet is clowning on Jada.
@johnwerkheiser5555
@johnwerkheiser5555 Год назад
He has to slap the WORLD! Or maybe just dump that loser and get his balls back.
@DrCruel
@DrCruel Год назад
I'm imagining Will Smith smacking random people on the street with a scowling Jada Pinkett storming behind him.
@EvenTheDogAgrees
@EvenTheDogAgrees Год назад
@@DrCruel Oh god, that mental image. Thank you SO MUCH, I'm dying here! 🤣
@stewgems4256
@stewgems4256 Год назад
Will is coming for each of us....
@DrCruel
@DrCruel Год назад
@@stewgems4256 He's not the celebrity we want. He's the celebrity we deserve. 🦇
@Lisalvsjohn
@Lisalvsjohn 3 месяца назад
I love how they get mad and say “why does it matter to you?” Well….it mattered enough to you to embarrass yourself by claiming something to be true that obviously isn’t and then defend it….?
Далее
ENOUGH With The Remakes
12:35
Просмотров 2,8 млн
She-Hulk - This Is Rock Bottom
13:19
Просмотров 3,5 млн
How The Witcher Destroyed Itself
9:14
Просмотров 2,1 млн
Velma Is Complete And Utter Trash
7:43
Просмотров 4,6 млн
Star Wars - Somehow... Rey Palpatine Returned
8:22
Просмотров 2,3 млн
Why Modern Movies Suck - The Strong Female Character
11:17
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - It's A Mess
18:30