Queen Cleopatra - The Most Hated Show Of All Time? 

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I think *Drunk History* uses this as a premise too.

Maybe her grandma is 2103 years old and personally knew cleopatra who knows

There's an entire subculture of black Americans who not only think Cleopatra was black but that ancient Egypt was a "black African" civilization. All the depictions showing otherwise are fakes done by white supremacists for some nefarious purpose.

Egyptologist Sally-Ann Ashton who worked as a consultant for Netflix stated, “Cleopatra ruled in Egypt long before the Arab settlement in North Africa,” Ashton said in a statement. “If the maternal side of her family were indigenous women, they would’ve been African, and this should be reflected in contemporary representations of Cleopatra.”

Ha good one 😂

Lmaooo 🤣🤣🤣

She loves gettin in all sorts of “entanglements”

the comments r epic

I wonder how many more times I'll see this comment copied from the original, higher rated one. My guess is thousands lol, people can't help but copy top comments and farm them upvotes. And they always have the same reply somehow, "I didn't see the top rated comment!"....c'mon son lol

Exactly. Plus, if you need to rely on race swapping, you're also saying that you don't think your race can make good characters on their own and need to rely on (insert other race) to make good original characters from them. It's self-racist and hillarious.

They dont wanna talk about african queens, because in true history, african kings and queens would sell their own as slaves. In fact many cultures in the past used to do this, specially in tribal cultures. They didnt wanna make a documentary against that because its not in their political agenda.

The actual funniest part is Netflix lost the lawsuit that Egypt hit them with and they have to remove this abomination and pay Egypt 2 billion dollars…..it’s fucking hilarious actually.😅

Cleopatra was able to accept her African and Greek heritage. To the Egyptians she was Isis, to the Romans she was Venus. You can be more than one thing

@@David-ox7ps What African heritage?

Its like saying Spanish people and Russians are the same because they are European

Yeah, I mean, did they get their education from Mean Girls or smt?

The Afrikaners are white but they were born in South Africa ha ha ha

or telling elon musk he is black because he is from south african , even if he was real and show billion of us that he is white

I interpreted "Apache" as the Apache Helicopter, and it made this comment even funnier 😂

She was not white lmao. She was mixed race

She wasn't exactly "white" like Hollywood America thinks of "black" and "white" but that's the issue. Hollywood and the far left ideologues are so racist that they can ONLY see the world in black or white. They literally had a meltdown when an actual Hawaiian actress was cast to play a Hawaiian character in a movie, because her skin was "too light a shade". These people are the actual bigots they accuse everyone else of being. Of course anyone with even half a brain already knows this, but i think the normies are finally starting to wake up to the fact that the woke are the most close minded bigoted fucksticks out there... ironically.

@KnowvilleKnows she came from a weird aristocratic family that intermarried the hell out of each other and, if historical claims are accurate, may have been the first of her family to actually speak Ancient Egyptian along with Greek. She may not have been "white" depending on what you define Greeks as, but she sure as hell wasn't "mixed".

@@Azgalon In the context of Cleopatra she was 100% white. It underminds the entire history of tolemaic egypt. They were colonized by a European power(macedon), if you want to get preachy focus on that. I'd be cool with that woman playing an egyptian female Pharos if it was dated back 2,000 bc. She's blackish, but I sincerely doubt she'd stand out if it her hair was straight in ancient egypt.

@@dixonhill1108 I'm not disagreeing that she was white. I'm replying to the guy above saying she was "mixed" which she absolutely was not. She was Greek which is white in the context of this discussion (but some people differentiate Mediterranean white from Northern European white). The black revisionism of the Mediterranean, be it Ancient Egypt or Carthage, is a joke.

Her grandmother: Why the fuck so many people are cursing me after I'm dead?! What did I do? 😂😂😂 Tbh, I feel a little sorry for her grandmother. There's always a clip of that statement in most coverages of this movie.

Historian always rewrite history to fit a narrative. You might be right that they may be bigots.

​@@mighty-roman I don't. She set that "historian" to become a failure. Without that dead hag, this catastrophe wouldn't have been made.

@@junodonatus4906 I mean maybe she just didn't know. It's not impossible to think that at that place and time her grandmother was under the impression that you shouldn't trust public education. Obviously she was dead wrong in the end but I don't interpret it as maliciousness.

​@@junodonatus4906 you should. She probably had no clear idea. But her granddaughter is literally African heritagr historian so she should knew better to be credible

Lol, as a South Asian this is funny as hell 😂😂😂. Plus these muricans don't realise that Africa is a continent and not a country and its also the most racially/genetically diverse region on the Planet

​@RabiyaRavenclaw now now, let's not group up all Americans as ignorant towards Africa being a continent. I'm American and that fact is well known to me. I also know Egypt is a country. Yay me right?

​@@drunktomcruise8224bro you Americans need to do something about your own country politics. How did it go from apartheid and racism to "People need to be sorry that they were born white and straight". The fact that a huge part of your population think going from one extreme to another and call it progressive is crazy.

@@troy2223 America is crashing down quickly! It feels like being on a sinking ship with no lifeboats!

@@RabiyaRavenclawtrust me man a lot of us “muricans” paid attention to school and actual history it’s just an idiotic minority that gets the most media attention spreading this bs and trying to rewrite historical facts in turn making the average American look like a moron.

What's your point Blacks sold slaves to whites Blacks who didn't comply with slave trade would be attacked by other black tribes supported by whites in forms of soldiers and weapons Romans conquered killed and took slaves Slavery is a stain on human history Black slavery is one of the most disgusting immoral thing a group of people have ever done, Calling out blacks for the african part of the slave trade, are you trying to absolve white people by making them not look as bad Laughing at the african queen because she was involved in slavery, and so accurate to 200000 based on what, Look at the Spanish to the south Americans, loads can be listed when talking about what white people have done

Oh wow that's pretty bad on her part. Sold people off for money... Meanwhile, the Netflix "docs" wash over the facts about these historical figures. Those shows are pure fiction if they don't even try to make it historically accurate.

Still better than starring someone who was almost certainly not black in a series about black queens.

The North African Barbary pirates were capturing and enslaving white people well into the 1800’s. That’s why the US Marine Corps hymn sings of the “shores of Tripoli”.

White people didn’t even do the slavery thing. Not in the way people see as evil. Slaves were prisoners of war so captives couldn’t form a new army or criminals working off their debt to society. Or in Rome, people could sell themselves into carefully protected slavery for a time to pay off debts. Slavery the way the world thinks of it and in terms of raiding people to enslave them is an African and Arabian thing. There’s also evidence that white people learned slavery from them.

Jada's sons friend: Hold my integrity, and hers.

I laughed way to hard at your comment 😂😂😂

I think you mean, "Burp her new boyfriend."

Jada even made governmnets come together with the internet community.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOVE IT! 👌

Dissing a whole nation is the next level of stupidity

Wow... Netflix has always been greedy, immoral liars. However, I was truly surprised when they screwed-up so badly that they offend an actual entire country! How much worse can Netflix ruin their own brand?

Bunch of arse-end gollywogs. Just like the jerkwaters that cockedup the story of Galadriel. I suffered through three episodes of that mess, and just about threw my sledgehammer through me telly.

Unbelievable, and you can also clearly see that they're not even basing their controversial statement on any credible ground at all, their only comeback is "well, Egipt is in Africa right? So egiptians ARE africans, therefore black!". As if every single group of people is Africa looks like another, for a team that claims to fight racism, I really wouldn't have expected them to go "ah yes they're all the same, they're africans so they are black and speak with a thick accent". Looks to me like they have never even spoke with an actual Egiptian, otherwise they'd know how they look like.

That’s how I felt as an Englishman when they blackwashed Anne Boleyn, the fact that they knew she was white but still thought it would be a good idea to make her black anyway

It's Ironic how Hollywood is airbrushing historical figures to make them black while until recently they had been white washing almost everything Asian character in films and tv shows White. Avatar the Last Airbender where all the main characters were Asian but cast as white people. Ghost in a Shell where Major Motoko Kusanagi is a Japanese police Major recast by white actress, Scarlett Johansson.

It’s called the great replacement.

Sie werden uns nicht ersetzen. Blut und boden

Apparently, calling out historical inaccuracies is racist now? When everything is “racist”, nothing is. Sadly, all the power behind the word is quickly losing its meaning due to so much crying wolf.

@@JustDatBoi by labeling all white men racist, they’ve inadvertently created more of them, like me. Technically, I’m “prejudice,” but because they would call that raysism’ I claim the label without care.

Except none of them will. They'll go on thinking theyre always right

And they will say the whole country is being racist

This all what it came down in the end, documentary needs to be backed up with real facts, you may want to "spice" the story here and there, but makes all the "majority" and public knowledge right. If they changed some obscure things like maybe "Cleo have bad habits like biting her nails" maybe most people wouldn't know wheter it's true or not. But they changed her race which is common, and Even if they think Cleo was "pure" Egyptian, it's not like all of them have Black African skin. At this point just make new "fantasy" story instead.

"how do you know this?" "it was revealed to me in a dream"

@@alexandredasilvavilasboasrosas "God spoke to me, he said Cleopatra was non-binary"

That grandma git dementia. Ok lady, it's time for your pills

Whilst its not perfect it tells an important story of an African Queen, how that people with darker skin (non-white) were once some of the most powerful people in the world and how it was from Africa that Europe got its power and wealth.

You forgot to mention the abominable Star Wars movies that Disney put out.

@@cathoderay305 What Star Wars movies? There haven't been any since Revenge of the Sith

​@@cathoderay305rouge one was the only great one, solo was okay but the sequels were no

​@@Ihavethetouch I don't recall any movie called Revenge of the Sith... I do remember Return of the Jedi, which was originally called "Revenge" of the Jedi. There have been a few cool video games though, some even cover the clone wars!

You should write: Disney: Thats nothing I cant make Star Wars irrelevant

she wasnt any of that shit. theyre just making up whatever they feel like

To be fair, her (half) sister was also unrelentingly hostile to her and was an acute threat to not only her power, but her life. So it's only fair. But yeah, saying that Cleeopatra cares more about science and linguistics than, say, preserving Ptolemaic Egypt is nuts.

Or remember the time she totally married her underage brother to secure her claim to rule? That was cute. To be fair, though, she did establish a huge perfumery and was a master of languages. She probably had a head on her shoulders, even if she was power-hungry.

Yes, she had a 165 IQ and murdered her brother to take the throne which was common. She wasn't black though. She also seduced two of the greatest men of the Roman Empire: Julius and Antoney.

@@Mereologist That was their custom and she had a 165 IQ.

That's not true the president didn't speak about this why are you lying

President 😅 more like dictator

There's a definitive reason ironically, she was literally a european ruling an african nation. They just white washed Greco Roman history, we probably should be thanking them. It's so ironic that a great example of europeans literally enslaving africans get's turned on its head.

The part that gets me, tbh, is how the showrunner lady says something to the effect of "We don't know that she was black for sure, but we for sure know she wasn't white like Elizabeth Taylor" It's just... the logic literally doesn't work. The only way to know for sure she wasn't white is if you for sure know what she is. If you don't for sure know she was black, how can you for sure know that she wasn't white? Like... you get what I mean, right?

That's an excellent question. Nefertiti is the one associated with the Black power movement and Black Feminism. Cleopatra was seen as too white.

@@deleteman900 We don' t know what Cleopatra looks like thanks to Cleopatra. She would change her appearance based on her circumstance. She actually dressed like a Roman Matron when she was in Rome. She looks more "Greek" in Sculptures and coins because she probably ordered the artist to do so.

The weird undertones of the whole black civilization thing sounds eerily similar to the Ayran myths of the Nazis. Afrocentrism have created this mythology where all the ancient was black including Greece stretching all the way to Japan as though there were some kind of homogeneous connection to it all and something to be proud of while indignant it was stolen and hidden from them - again similar to the Ayran myths. Funny thing is this black identity means little in Africa North or sub-saharan. It's primarily an American thing

😆 My thought exactly, Michael

I'm sure there is someone else she can steal.

She could have chosen any of these. Kendakes (Queen) Amanirenas Kendakes (Queen) Amanishakheto Kendakes (Queen) Amanitore Kendakes (Queen) Shanakdakhete Kendakes (Queen) Nawidemak Kendakes (Queen) Amanikhatashan Sarauniya (Queen) Bakwa Turunku Sarauniya (Queen) Amina Lingeer (Queen) Ndate Yalla Mbodj Lingeer (Queen) Njembot Mbodj Queen Njinga Ngola Kilombo Queen Idia Queen Gudit Queen Yanu Queen Mary Queen Agnes Queen Mathilda Princess Ewurabena Pokou Queen Ndate Yalla Mbodj Queen Mwana Mikisi Queen Mwana Mwema of Zanzibar Nanak Asma'u bint Usman Fan Fodio Princess Hangbe Empress Eleni

And we never get to hear any such stories when these twats pull their own "history facts" out of their arse. If there's so much real material, then what's with the BS and lies?

@@admirekashiri9879 Wdym...Thats like having to actually work for our money. Better to just do this and call everyone a racist instead!

Blacks can't be racist, they can spit on any race, that's what in USA they call tolerance

Yes they are…😂😂😂

Two countries. Both Egyptians and Greeks are mad lol

What to say? "Velma was obviously made by amateurs!"

Idk, it takes true masters to unite so many together. Like its impressive, for all the wrong reasons but impressive nonetheless

Well... they are actually accomplishing something? hooray :) LOL

These ‘creators’ are so indoctrinated by their whole worldview that they, I think, really believe that any insistence on historical fact is ‘systemic racism’. These people are racist. They only see race. Not substance. Not truth. Not historical accuracy. Just racism. Everything is racism. And it all points to their own intrinsic value as higher and better than all others because of their supposed victimized status. Nevermind they’re adulterating elites who live in a bubble of class and wealth. Everyone has to affirm their ‘blackness’. It’s all so off-putting and would be laughable if it wasn’t straight up dystopian. Anyway. That’s all I’ve got for today.

I was told he was black?

He had dark colour indeed. No joke, do research... he was mixed

Beethoven is a sort of single parent

Don’t you mean you grandbirthingperson? „Mother“ is an offensive term! 😂

Anyone else you want to add seems everyone should conform to you. No one allowed to be different.

You mean Greek Macedonians at the time weren’t black?!! I never knew 😱 In all seriousness. When I heard about a lawsuit I thought it was Greece at first lol

@@lobehold2263 in a hilariously bad attempt at being diverse they managed to offend an entire african country... that's kind of the opposite of what they were trying to do

@@siegebreaker4120 no kidding, they dropped the ball big time. Especially because the Ptolemys practiced inbreeding a lot. That or they married into other diadochi families. So there blood didn’t dilute much from their origin

Don't forget about (North) Macedonia, they have a skin in this game as well

@@user-cr3ti1vj6f Never ask a Greek man his opinion on if Monkeydonians have a stake in Greek history.

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You did fine, it was a good, well thought out and well written comment!

Great comment. Particularly the last part - this film is one of many examples of American studios taking the messed up race relations in their country and assuming this paradigm applies to every other country too

I appreciate your effort brother, but please understand we are dealing with U.S. Americans here. They also think Europe is a country and all white people come from the Caucasus mountians 🤣

My Grandma told me "I don't care what they tell you at school, but they did definitely land on the moon".

That made me laugh so much, hahaha. 😂

@@philholdsworth8280 if your school denies the moon landing I wouldn't trust anything they teach too

@@philholdsworth8280 still hard to believe people still believe that 👀.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Gotta love Grandma.💪👍🥃

Oh, Jada loves a bit too much

The amount of evidence that Cleopatra is black is the same as the amount of hair in Jada's head

She's getting more excited this time of year; soon August will come.

KEEP MY WIFES NAME OUT YOUR EFFING MOUTH!

Or that her husband can take a joke

Spot on!! Wish I could like this comment more than once

@@DeReAntiqua he should be more worried about what’s going in her mouth

Brilliant

This is top-tier savagery and I love it!

Yeah like how she calls cheating “entanglements” 😂

It's the leftist kind of science. Very objective 😆

maybe put documentary between quotes " ?

Yes and it's a very sad thing that our (at least Western) mankind just looks like going down that slope to the end of what exactly : magical thought at every corner of life ?

“My uneducated grandmother who didn’t finish high school and was a maid to a White family which made her racist against White people said Cleopatra was black so it must be true!”

"My uncle works at Nintendo."

Hoo boy. If we’re gonna open that whole “my grandma/grandpa told me _________________” can of worms, as a basis for ultimate truth, it could get interesting.

Cheese or not, the moon is flat...

It is the same old argument, is it the small medulla oblongotta or too many teeth not enough toothbrush?

And sadly this is the same logic lots of people apply towards science. Who cares that there's overwhelming scientific evidence and experience about the importance of vaccines, the shape of the planet or the origin of mankind, if it doesn't meet their mental image of reality it's automatically thrown out the window

Maybe it was Cleopatra Jones?

It's even funnier when you discover that this claim was made by a random grandma

2 words: CANCEL NETFLIX

My gran gran had some good stories as well.

Dam why did your wife want to watch this trash.

​@@strange-universe Don't forget the actual descriptions of Jesus as a caucasian or the actual descriptions of people like David and Joseph in the Bible as redheads.

Asterix and obelix's representation of gladiators is better than 90% of all other media.

attempting to erase a cultural identity and then calling others racist for finding fault with it is a hell of a venture

Tbf the people living in modern Egypt don't have anything to do with that culture. Would be the same as saying that latin Americans are the heirs of Aztec culture

How isn't cultural misrepresentation?

​@@Ind3xPlus so you basically said that people today have nothing to do with slavery, yet black people want compensation from current year white people. Fucking dope XD

Actually, the director claimed she was fine with that. The audacity. Lol

@@wheatyes2104 did you hear it from your grandma as well?

@@peeyushverma2284 nah, I think it was from "extra history" but I could be wrong. I'll delete the comment if I am wrong

​@@wheatyes2104 i wrote that reply in zest. Anyways, extra history came to that conclusion after looking at her face in the coins..but the faces (of her and the husband) in those coins were butt ugly tbh. The faces were probably romanized to cater public, as they usually are..hence, the prominent nose and chin, along with other characteristics associated with it. The truth is, we don't actually know how she would look like as we don't have her skeleton to look at. Most paintings and statues are artist's imagination than the real deal.

@@peeyushverma2284 That's fair. I guess the same with Queen Elizabeth 1, since we don't know if she was romantized either. It's nice to talk to a rational person

Damn, your sister is a savage.

Genius

This is too good!! 🤣🤣🤣

Nope. She was Russian. And her name was Cleya Patrovna.

No, she was French. Her real name was Clé au Pâtre. My grandma told me so.

Nah, she was actually a guy named Claus O'Peter. It was revealed to me in a dream

Agreed. "My truth" is usually just "my opinion" or maybe "my experiences." It certainly isn't "the truth."

Don't you people constantly rewrite and lie in history? Rhetorical question by the way I understand that needs to be specified.

The most evil thing these people are doing is trying to rewrite reality through the news and pop culture. They want everything to bend to their ideas and it's the biggest assault on truth possible. I refuse to give a cent to any of those woke corporations I hope they all crash and burn.

@@Kai...999, people who try to shape history to fit their ideology often lie, whether they realize it or not. The primary agenda in pursuing history should be to discover truth, not shape it. Ideology blinds.

​@@Kai...999no, I've never re written history. Never even wrote about anything historic.

Thanks for sharing this info! I would be really interested in authentic (sub-saharan) African material. Maybe not so much documentaries, not my cup of tea, but definitely traditional African fairytales, and original African fantasy. Wish Amazon, instead of sprinkling black actors into The Rings of Power, had comissioned an original fantasy series based on African mythologies. But no, too much work, let's just appropriate and distort Tolkien's legacy...

Yeah, but they should've used extreme falsification with Nzinga too. I mean, yes, she was fascinating, and black, but at the same time, her wealth, and the prosperity of her country was based largely on slave trade. So they couldn't actually show Nzinga without admitting, that slave trading wasn't exactly like their core narrative of "evil white men capturing blacks and taking them away from their home". It's easier to lie Cleopatra's skin was black than explaining how Nzinga was so powerful without admitting her being the largest slaver of the region.

And Black Ariel?

@@user-eb3on1sq1s Changing her appearance is not even nearly the worst thing that movie has done.

​@@sofija642 for me it was the worst thing and im black. Black Ariel is NOT ariel to me.

Cleopatra was also speculated to be one of George RR Martin's inspirations behind Daenerys Targaryen.

@@user-eb3on1sq1s black Ariel not that bad, but what they did with the rest of the characters? Jail time

My wife is European Russian and I tell her she's Asian because of that very fact. For some reason she gets offended by that😆

Imagine allowing the ones who's been exiled from over 100 countries embed themselves in governments throughout the entire world to destroy Jesus Christ creation.

We are the Scythians! We are the slit-eyed Asians! - Although Blok was also wrong. 😊

@@fairfortune67 key word European Russian you are literally calling her something she isnt most of russias population is in Europe and the rest was conquered during the 16th and 17th century

It's not exactly that bad of an argument since technically speaking, Russians are indeed "Asians" to an extent. And "Asian" is a very broad term since it means anyone from Asia. What you need to say is either "EAST ASIAN" or anyone from the 6 major chink eyed-eyed i.e. China, Taiwan, North & South Korea, Japan and Mongolia. And why settle for an "Asian actor". Why not cast Kim Jong Un as Anastasia? It's more inclusive and ticks the best boxes especially if Kim identifies as a lesbian attack helicopter. And anyone who's against it is a racist, misogynist and a bigot.

But my friends friend's cousin's grandpa said both Wakanda and MLK Jr were white!

They managed to unite the Egyptians into defending the friggin' Ptolemies. The Ptolemies! The quintessential foreign dynasty occupying and exploiting one of the most important Empires of our civilization down the decadence drain until it became a mere Roman Imperial Province. That's some incredible accomplishment from Netflix.

@@nm7358 they're not defending the potlemies tho it's more of defending their ancient history as a whole

@@nm7358 Unlike the Arab Muslims occupying Egypt to this day?

I would be ok if they claim mao, polpot, hitlers as black tho 😂😂 they can change that hisotry

The reality check went over their head trust me

​@@AliciaJade.Booo wheres the potato recipie?

“We have Cleopatra at home”

Didn't realize documentaries could be pure fiction now. All while claiming to still be true.

Well yes she was with Macedonian ancestors and Egyptian, both

We Wuz Kangz 'n Sheeeeit

and their architecture wasn't matched for centuries afterwards.

Just wait till they claim ancient mesopotamia was black lmao

Actresses should not go off script. They're undereducated and overpaid.

Imagine telling "you don't know your history" to one of the countries that SHAPED history

I might as well start telling Japanese people i know their history better than they do. Oh yeah Nobunaga was actually black, my mom said so!

@@norwegianboyee fun fact, you can *actually* make a historically accurate story of a black samurai. His name was Yasuke

I do wonder just how close this one has brought Netflix to actually being dragged into a court somewhere in the world on hate crime charges

It's weird because there are Nubian and Kushite Pharos of Egypt that they could have told the story about in actual Egyptian history But NOOOOOOOOOO they won't even tell their own story of Africa and it's people they need to tell the story of already existing and established stories with now a darker complexion because "muh feelings"

Good point. A very fitting example. Now if it had done well, without blatant criticism, then it would also have been a fine example of hypocrisy.

As a balcanic guy I can agree with making Cleopatra back because pf how racist we are twards greeks being black.

The radical left is used to getting away with it, but a lot of people are getting tired of their never ending lies.

Whose changing it?? Have you seen a photo of Cleopatra which by the way isn't her original name, have you seen her remains?? So how do you what she looks like??

@@B_tez We know she wasn't black African from contemporary depictions. It's not just that they show her with light skin and hair that a black woman wouldn't have - the strongest evidence is her facial structure which is nothing like those of black Africans.

@@B_tez You deserve an award for the level of intelligence demonstrated by that comment.

They accuse others of that they do themselves. With literally everything.

The irony is in this situation is the fact she was a European/Macedonian who was literally a colonizer of an African nation. This is how you know the woketards are just stupid. You can cover all the bases of wokism.

Jada really handing out N cards here

You are not black! You are African American!

Well, go and loot yourself some Nikes and a big screen TV. It's your culture.

@@Winston.S.Churchill is coptic even a culture ? i was sure it was a religion :D

Do you feel oppressed now?

All I remember from that Malcolm X movie is Denzel washington getting shot about 10000 in his death scene. As a kid I was shocked by how many bullets he took like it was a bb gun.

Nah, need a documentary about Adolf Hitler starring Samuel L Jackson

@@nont18411 🤣🤣🤣, god damn it, its way too funny imagining Jackson with the hitler stash and speaking in german

Malcolm x directed by and starring Mel Gibson

​@@rudesword2852 once again, brilliant casting!

And it is weird. They seem to be actively trying to ruin themselves. "Hey let's make an entertaining, historically accurate TV show" "nah"

Well said!

It sounds like the razzie awards and razzie oscars needs their own show, that’ll be amazing

That's cause Netflix has money .

@@bewmdogg It isn't about the money, it is about indoctrination. They will always be funded by the people whose agenda they push.

well they were some...but all are virtually unknown to most people (apart from name "Cleopatra") and way too insignificant from a global history point of view...that´s why they went this way I guess

The statement Netflix, "Cleopatra was Black," and the response from Egypt, "No, she wasn't," indicate a difference in perspectives and ideologies regarding Cleopatra's racial background. Let's expand on this topic. The assertion that "Cleopatra was Black" refers to the belief that Cleopatra, the famous queen of ancient Egypt, had African ancestry and should be considered a person of African descent. This viewpoint is often supported by proponents who argue that Cleopatra hailed from a region with a diverse population, including Greek, Egyptian, and African people, and that her family, the Ptolemies, had a history of intermarriage with Africans. Advocates of this perspective may emphasize Cleopatra's interactions with African rulers and her connections to Egypt's southern regions, which had closer cultural and ethnic ties to Sub-Saharan Africa. They might also point to ancient artistic representations of Cleopatra that feature her with features associated with African heritage, such as a broad nose or dark complexion. On the other hand, the response from Egypt, stating, "No, she wasn't," reflects an opposing viewpoint. This perspective holds that Cleopatra, as a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, was primarily of Greek descent and should be considered ethnically Greek or Caucasian. It argues that while Egypt had contact and trade with various regions, including Africa, Cleopatra herself did not have a significant African heritage. Proponents of this viewpoint may focus on the historical context of the Ptolemaic dynasty, which originated from Macedonian Greece and ruled over Egypt for several centuries. They might also highlight Cleopatra's lineage, tracing her ancestry back to Ptolemy I Soter, a Greek general under Alexander the Great. It's important to note that the debate surrounding Cleopatra's ethnicity and racial background is not a recent phenomenon. Historians and scholars have engaged in discussions on this topic for many years, considering various primary sources, archaeological evidence, and cultural contexts. Ultimately, the question of Cleopatra's racial identity remains complex and multifaceted. The lack of definitive historical evidence regarding her physical appearance and the diverse influences within ancient Egypt make it challenging to reach a consensus. The contrasting ideologies surrounding Cleopatra's race reflect the ongoing discourse in historical and cultural studies, where interpretations and perspectives can differ based on individual perspectives, biases, and available evidence.

@@2012nightwatcher How long did it take you to type that nothingburger?

Netflix: "When you care about race so much in favor of black it's woke, but when you care about race so much in anything else including truth and historical facts: it's racist. 😂"

​@@2012nightwatcherchatgpt?

​@@2012nightwatcher dunning kruger detected

It's also racism too.

Exactly.

i honestly believe cultural appropriation is just a ridiculous concept, since different nations and civilization have contact with each other and influence each other. this has NOTHING to do with cultural appropriation, this is just a poor quality history rewriting and i 100% with all egyptians that are mad at the show, since we're talking about well recorded hystorical facts. But just for sake of the argument, could you please give me your definition of "cultural appropriation"?

@@DRKLRD-kv4cm Isn’t rewriting history for yourself appropriating a culture?

no it's not, cleopatra was a biracial women like this woman, do you even know the time period she was queen, arabs thinking they are real egyptians are like white people thinking they are native americans, it's riduclous

And bald

An "entanglement"

The Drinker lies! Clearly there was a black Queen Cleopatra! Cleopatra Jones ruler of Harlem!

@@scottslotterbeck3796that would get Jada mad

​@@zdvxr And maybe make Will slap someone😂😊

Reimagine*

Maybe she was during the time of blockbuster

This black Cleopatra is pure racism in the name of anti-racism. American's stereotypical depiction of other people's race and culture has to stop.

Cleopatra is black because that woman's grandmother was an idiot. That is the actual goddamn reasoning behind the racebait.

My grandmother always used to tell me that no matter what they teach me in school, owning slaves is a good thing.

2 words: CANCEL NETFLIX (they are part of matrix)

but my granny told me he was!

This "is like" shit is outta control.

Don't u dare u give this idea to Netflix

@@grizzlo7300 that’s just dumb to whine about .. about as pointless as my comment

Cleopatra plays red eyed black american deck.

Oh, no I’ve played the Blue Eyes White Privilege Dragon. ;D

Lol nice one

HAHAHA awesome comment!

Haha this wins the internet

I do like me some Morgan Freeman. And just imagine that inner monologue: "Get busy queening or get busy dying."

rates at the 'purged with holy fire' level of burn :)

Hail davidpaz Hail davidpaz

BURRRRRNNNN!!!

Someone did ur comment earlier, and written better. This is on par with "did iiiiii doooo that" 5 years after family matters

Heyy!! Will Smith is a cuckold by choice...accept the lifestyle people.😅

how's it racist if shes half white half black? Do we ignore the half white side just because she has colour to her skin? Her mum must be disgusted by all the undercover racists

Exactly what most of them do, people getting tired of the black washing

@@jacobhernandez3636 Can you explain how someone half white and half black is black?

@@KK-bc8gt are you referring to Adele James? Because pretty much black bro and everyone refers her as black so wym?

@@KK-bc8gt like are you saying she’s white?😂

but Gramma said...

I don't think they were really that interested in historical accuracy. This movie is essentially 'We Wuz Kangs The Movie 2: We Wuz Kwangs'

Grandma said don't believe what they say ,she was black

B-but we wuz quangs n shit..

hello? THEY KNOW. Everybody with half a brain knows Cleopatra was white (Greek). They purposely ignored it because they are trying to change history, wanting to make it less white.

The Caucasus mountains are in Asia. So in fact Genghis Kahn was white.

now I know why I have never heard of or seen this genhis kahn movie, it must be hilarious. It might be worth it to watch just to laugh at the duke playing kahn. Back then, they would portray an obviously jewish guy from new york as a native american, just put some makeup on him, it will be fine

​​​@@italianknight78 Genghis came from Mongolia, idiot. He wasn't a Hun like Atilla.

Happy thanksgiving pilgrims

My grandma told me, "Attila the Hun, Caligula, Ivan the terrible, and Vlad the Impaler were all black women. All of them were Jada Pinkett Smith's self inserts."

They legit thought a Universal Monster Movie reboot was the same as a Docudrama series 💀

The Mummy never said it's a documentary. Plus, egyptian actually loved how they portrayed 1920s Cairo and it looks quite accurate

A fictional movie is not the same as a documentary.

And the irony is that Arnold Vosloo, albeit being South African, I felt had a very convincing Egyptian look to him. This is just a disgrace.

Yeah they obviously didn’t want people to believe that mummies can come back from the dead and absorb the souls of people or that scarabs can eat people from the inside out lmao.

Outrage, she was 1/4 Thai.

Nope. She's a historical person people have heard about so she *must* have been a white man.

All hail trans Cleopatra 🤢

Its true. My grandma said so.

Cope she was a latina, read more history books you bigotred nerds 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

Honestly, it's sort of weird in general, being proud of the past; even if I was a direct descendent of a hero, like, so? I wasn't the one who did whatever he or she did, it's not right for me to get my sense of self-worth based on their accomplishments. I really only care enough to counter when people try to tell me to be ashamed of myself because of the past.

Its the weaklings mindset

Yes!!! Absolutely!

Right. Their whole mantra is "I'm special and unique" but need to see someone physically similar to themselves to feel "represented"

It’s something thats very unique to black americans, you don’t see real africans doing it because they know their indentity. Certain black americans wanna make their history something that is proud and not filled with pain i guess so they make up stuff like this.

The one thing that tells you enough about this show is the rotten tomatoes score. We are used to low audience scores by now due to movies and shows simply not being good, or being inaccurate lorewise to a franchise. But the fact that VERY few critics actually watched this and those that does also dislike it tells you alot. Usually they love character changes as long as they are in a ...certain way. But even they knew this is to hot to handle, or: lying about how good this is would be even worse compared to other projects so they either didn't watch it or had enough intelligence to not praise it.

Velma is from HBO, this is from Netflix

@@valentin7693 Correct. I was speaking to the general ambition.

It looked impossible. But they managed to do it. The best "Grab my beer I have seen in a lot of time". Is like an underdog wining a major League like. Bournemouth, West Ham or Nottingham forest winning 23/24 Premier League.

Velma is horrible but it's kinda funny how hard it tries to be funny. Also the fact that the writers are forcing their political biases in every other line, makes it somewhat entertaining to watch. I definitely wouldn't watch it again though.

Or Is A BLM Supporter.

What makes this funnier is that Shelley Haley, the old lady who cited her grandmother, made that claim.

uuuh, that sounds like... a dark dream

To hunt her house until they retract this shit, i supose

You know, this reminds me of a tidbit about the production of the 1981-Movie "Inchon" I came across on wikipedia: _" In 1978, psychic Jeanne Dixon was consulted to communicate with the spirit of General MacArthur, and Dixon said that MacArthur's spirit endorsed the production of the film."_ You might know this, but "Inchon" was a notorious disaster at the box office.

@@kuribayashi84 “Inchon” sounds like a completely retarded movie.

The most insane angle here is the idea that a western filmmaker of Iranian heritage believes that casting a mixed-race British woman in the role of a Greek-Egyptian queen is a pathway to teaching modern Egyptian people about their own identity, and that she is somehow responsible for teaching this lesson while ignoring the protests of actual Egyptian scholars. The absolute narcissism and entitlement in that statement is shocking.

And she clearly thinks all Africans are black! She wants them to see them selves as black, but she says African because she thinks they are the same thing.

Modern Egyptians are Arab oriented😂lmao

Fun Fact: South Africans, many of whom are white, are African. Elon Musk is African. Oh, it's true.

So people from Greece are also Africans now I guess. Jezus that woman is clueless.

And in the same year no less.

As a Black woman, I'm sick of Black and White movie makers using biracial and mixed-race actresses to play the role of Black actresses. For example, Halle Berry, Zendaya, Zoey Zaldana, Paula Patton, and many others should not be used to play or represent Black women. There needs to be more Black actresses in movies with lead roles. Black women are fed up with seeing biracial and mixed-race women such as Halle Berry, Zendaya, Zoe Zaldana, and Paula Patton portraying Black women. As far as I'm concerned, Netflix is promoting everybody except Black women, and everybody knows this. This is why I do not watch or support movies that use fake Black women to play real Black women. These are examples of real Black women: Viola Davis, Lupita Nyong'o, Alfre Woodard, Javicia Leslie, Keke Palmer, Kimberly Elise, Kiki Lane, Lovie Simone, Keshia Knight Pulliam, Tika Sumpter, Skai Jackson, Ryan Destiny, Regina King, Nia Long, Angela Bassett, Brandy, etc. Smh

@@rhondae8222 so, these women who are at least partially black aren’t black enough for you to permit them to admit their own heritage? That seems awfully colorist, if not actually racist, to me. Why not just let all those women, both light and dark skinned, play black characters?

And they are all beautiful and talented. I totally agree with you.

It is not about "permit", it is about accuracy of representation. Obviously, we can not expect filmmakers to track the character's ancestry to n'th degree, and find a suitable actress - but at some point, it definitely feels "eh, close enough"

Oh they even call egyptians racists now. Oppressed poor US americans with no rights like the smiths.

Yeah, who does Pinkett Smith think she is... 1955's Head of the British Museum? :P

And then being called racist when they complain about it. It doesn't get much more rediculous.

It can always get worse. Some think ancient rome didn't even exist

Americans in a nutshell

Watching this video made me realize that I don't actually know many black historical women who were leaders of Nations! Maybe if Netflix could put some effort into its documentaries they wouldn't be so overlooked!

She’s taught in world history. Her and the General in the Roman Civil war were the second faction of two against Octavian. Gave Romeo and Juliet vibes with their deaths, but they were more kickass. This show could have been great…

They needed at least one story that every one had heard of before to hook people into the series

And they didn't have a problem with her being casted as white all 50x

@@DeadPiixxel Why would they? She was white after all LOL

@@RylieBread No historical figure dead or alive can escape the wrath of Jada Pinkett Smith!

Don't you mean Sugondese?

Remember family guy Meg and Chris replaced by sudanese.

Sabilulungan was his favorite song