Netflix Blames The Fans For Witcher Dying | Asmongold Reacts 

He's a terrible actor with a more terrible work ethic. I hope his agent drops him, she's been doing the heavy lifting for YEARS.

@@samf.s.7731 Cope

@@samf.s.7731 Geralt was the only acting talent the show had if that clues anyone in. What they did with Yen is unforgivable.

why take fault when you can blame anything else

@@samf.s.7731 you are the problem

Well, the Geralt should be skinny. But in everything else Cavill is just a huge nerd and a genuinely good guy, so he's a great person for any such role.

@@stanislavkimov2779 Skinny? I read the books but it was never mentioed that he was "skinny" :D. Cavill was fine.

​​@@notrather5514 Then you are misremembering. He's described as being slim and sinewy, covered in scars, unnaturally pale, with an unpleasant voice, a smile that makes people uncomfortable etc. Geralt being a hunk only became a thing since 'the witcher 2' game.

@@notrather5514 read them again then.

@@whiskeyjack02 English is not my native language and I read it in mine but for what I remember this description does not mean that he is "skinny". Allright not as big as Cavill, but for me it mean that he does not look as the "Im pushing 10 cars at the same time" body type so not like heavy lifter strong, rather a rock climber strong, which is not skinny just not HUGE. But yeah Cavill is bigger than that but I think its not far from the truth.

which is their show's main customers are those "toxic fandom"! So their idea is like this. The restourant serves you a dish and it's bland as f. As the owner of the restourant you are not firing your chef instead, you are blaming the customers who didn't like what you are selling. Good luck trying to stay alive in the business if you continue on this trend, I will be eating my meals from another restourant instead of yours.

They do it for ESG score to get a funding money from Larry Fink.

classic

its like tolkien who cut out most of the creature of the original story because of his Catholic believes :D

Have you ever seen a black person in Poland?

@@smurfie8412 How is it relevant to writers craping all over the source material? ... I'll humour you though. There are some black tourists in typical tourist destinations. Outside of that I saw 3 in person throughout my whole life. In comparison, I lived in Germany and England, for a while, and compared to them black community in Poland is pretty much nonexistent.

@@smurfie8412 have you ever touched grass?

@@smurfie8412 Come there and see for yourself. Get out of your house. Touch some grass

@@MrGreenAKAguci00 No surprise, Poland has been quite racist in the past especially pre-ww2 when they had pogroms and anti jewish laws comparable to nazi germany

They decided to take an arrow to the knee.

nah i've seen the polish shows and knowing netflix i didn't expect anything from this. its better than i thought though, it'll go further down the drain now that the "writers" have full control and Cavil isn't fighting against it.

It's always a great strategy to piss of everyone who's actually a fan of something and instead pander to people that have no interest in watching said show. Woke people don't read witcher or play the games or watch the show.

@@jeezus666 yeah and they eat their own too, yet here they are getting bigger and bigger for the past decade. they were around before that of course, there are even lines that can be drawn back to the natsis

@@cucco1 Arrow to the knee mean get married in Skandinavia.

He tried to leave Witcher for other movies and hoping they would wait for him. It didn’t turn out so well for him.

the disrespect to Geralt was kind of ridiculous. they really think the whole series is about Ciri. The casting is so fucking confusing because there will be characters with red hair who don't have red hair in the show like ??? please

So Shalotra nude okay, and Cavil nude not okay? More importantly, your sauce buddy! We need a reliable sauce for a claim like this. Because the story changes every few months.

@@scapingby yeah I was gonna say, where the f**k is the source for a huge @$$ claim like this?

@@TNTspaz source again, wanna reference it? Author and publisher please. Because Shalotra had a ton of nudity in that first season, Cavil on the other hand... None And you're telling me that Shalotra was nekkid as a baby during that first season and Cavil refused to take his shirt off? Pfffffff Ahahahahaha

that's an amazing point, but the hopeful part about the witcher is that cdpr is developing a new entry to the franchise, and a rework of the older games. this means that we'll get another peak in interest in some years. hope that other company buys the rights to adapt the series and do it right this time

​@@gustavogoesgomes1863 remaking the series wouldn't work, too much revisiting the same narrative beats. I could see self-contained movies however.

Great Comment. It reminds me of Star Wars. I used to worry it would never progress in my lifetime, now I wish it hadn't. If they retcon it in 20 years and make new films, how many life long fans will be around to care? (esp with original cast no longer around either)

All the worse is the toxic element that they have to bait and switch with some existing IP to push their views because they know they'll struggled to get a green light if they come out with an honest original product.

Time happens to be my favourite ingredient in ginger bread as well

I don't think show makers even know what Poland is "Polish? Oh yeah, I know polish, it's for furniture! Also, we need more black people in the Witcher"

​​@@donajonse this is a hilarious comment (because it's true) that should almost mog op but will be buried by the fact it's hidden in a comment thread that doesn't hook attention well due to being kinda dry and informative.

hahaha! love it. "Trojan horsed themselves into a fandom" thats the perfect explanation of these writers.

Cheeky comparison there, love it

I still have a screenshot of the showrunners tweet saying they would stay true to the books lol

bruh thats line wwas so fire

@usernaames what? They said the casting is not the major issue, it's the writing. the show runners said they'll stick to the source material (books) but they didn't later on.

Very true. I can only imagine those writers will just go harder at bastardising the lore out of spite after fans backlash. I also predict season 4 for them to destroy Geralts character

Smearfiction: fiction created solely for smearing the reputation of a beloved product.

*looks at Eragon "movie"*

@@JonduGaming unfortunately Eragon was written by a 15yo. its going to be cringe unless heavily rewritten for mass media.

No, you can't adapt a book chapter by chapter into a show. They are two different mediums of story telling.

@@emsa7esm203 - Yes, you can. What you CAN'T do is adapt the characters, scenes, dialog and visuals exactly as they are in the book. You can absolutely take the story beats chapter by chapter.

@@brettwood8379 Yes, that's true, cause what working on paper dosn't working on screen and opposite.

Wait they are trying to make live action One Piece? Holy cow.

That is an impossible Anime to adapt due to the fluidity in animation with character movement. Much less tone mapping. Spikes movements are beyond a normal humans and having a punch of witty smartass just does not land the same as the secret zen master with a snarky side.

Because the goal is to take something people enjoy and destroy it and turn it into something else.

@Theanomoly it is slower paced. I found I hard to get into as well. However there's quite a bit of depth in the characters and story. Once you get over the initial speed bump, you start to really enjoy it. That's actually one of my issues with the Netflix adaptation. It had too much forced energy. For a series that had double the runtime per episode, they really tried to do too much with it, while also achieving to not do enough.

@@totallynottrademarked5279 not true. You have to understand that an anime will always be first and foremost, an anime. Even though it is more realistic, it's still stylised like an anime, of course movements will be smoother and enhanced. However Spike's fighting style is based on Bruce Lee's fighting style, Jeet Kune Do. If Netflix were faithful enough that your issue was the only issue, then this adaptation would be praised as a masterful recreation, and the second season wouldn't be cancelled a week or so, after the first season came out.

I was in the same boat thinking season 1 was passable, with its flaws. I've recently read almost all the books and it's hilariously amazing how awful the show is. It's basically a rewrite.

Season one *was* passable with some goofy decisions (conduits as eels?) here and there, but it got the characters where they needed to be for the events of BoE. Season two was unexcusable. There was nothing at all of BoE's DNA in season two. Henry and his portrayal of Geralt was the shining light that motivated me to make it through S2. I don't think even his performance will be enough to bring me back for S3. They said they deviated a little from the books? I don't see how a single plotline from ToC could have made it through into S3. No. No, the more I think on it, the more I'm convinced to call it here.

Did anyone else find it hilarious that they made Cahir and Fringilla so ridiculously Evil in that first season that it was going to be impossible to redeem them 😂

@@KeytarArgonian Holy fuck I just realized that. And that makes me remember his little arc in the show with Yen. Oh my god what was that writing. LMAO.

As someone who read the books, I stomached S1 because I figured they going to try to do their own thing and I liked Cavil enough that I was willing to give them a second shot. After the Tree episode with Eskel i quit. YOu literally called it. It was soo antithetic to what the character and the witchers as a group that I just stopped watching it. This is 100% on the Show runner, she should be fired and blacklisted from the industry. Only way these people stop hijacking fandoms to try and push their failed writer aspirations. If you are doing an adaptation you treat the source material as the bible, otherwise make your own shit.

His non-verbals say so much and capture the character so accurately.

I mean, if you’re still subscribed to Netflix I don’t think they could care less lol

Nop it's not a ego thing. We have to many examples of thinking "this franchise is only vehicle for our ideology". This is the same technique like zssr propaganda was using. Take any popular and likable etos and put our ideology first, and ban everything what don't meet this standard.

​@@cardboardpigit's literally what would happen if you took some person from Wattpad and gave them a multimillion dollar budget... probably what they did to be honest.

True, most know Tolkien by watching the movies. But how many know the producers of the movie? Even the Actors are more popular.

It’s because we keep getting show runners who don’t respect the source material. They think they know better and make a bunch of unnecessary changes. Then when they get backlash they blame the fans. Seems to be the new formula.

@Victoria Scholl It’s sheer Fing hubris in Lauren and everyone involved. They think they can co opt the name and disregard the source; not realizing that they wouldn’t have a job without the source. Yes you need to make changes to fit the medium. Look at the Jackson films. But still, these writers owe it to the fans RJ try to stick as close as possible to the material. And really to loose someone like Henry, who gives a crap about the material, is unforgivable. If I was writing or show running; I’d kill to have someone who was that determined and loved the material. All in all, Lauren and her team do not deserve Henry and they deserve all the heat they are getting.

It's not that they hate it, it's the way production works. Most people don't get to choose their jobs and aren't paid that much that they can turn stuff down. There's also the fact that a lot of the time, especially with Netflix, production deals mean that a writer might only get a chance to do their dream show or movie if they so something the studio wants done first

"I don't understand why the writers took a job for material they hate, that seems totally odd to me. " Here's the explanation - 1. it's a way to get money. 2. they can twist it into something they like better while trading on the name, even though that will sooner or later ruin that name. They just have to abandon integrity.

Says Cavil's PR team.

@@samf.s.7731 You're in every comment section just defending this abomination of a show. As someone who actually had the attention span to read the books, f off.

Especially since this "modern audience" just fucking wanted a faithful adaptation. That's all.

the problem is that they define who and what the "modern audience" is. that the worst part. these audience doesnt really exist or is extremly small

Modern audience just means a very small minority of braindead Twitter users that sit around getting offended by everything all day long.

Um, the book literally says "you cannot pass." I am pretty sure the changing to shall from cannot, was a mistake that happened during filming and is credited to Ian McKellen.

The writers didnt want him to have his own magic!?!?!?!?!? WHAT A NIGHTMARE OF A SHOW THEY MADE!!!!! The Witcher without his magic is BROKE and lame...

And the lore will be true to the source, because GW is very picky on how it is been branded and shown in games and Media.

​@@IceCubE4425 what, gw is picky?😅

if they fuck this up with some lgbtq trans orks, Chaos Eldar gay love and a strong black tyranid fighting back the matriarchy I'll still gonna watch it. at least it will me comedy.

​@@moppa90 bro dark eldar being gay or trans or anything is probably the most in character stuff ever for a dark eldar

@@cobra3306 that's why I said Eldar.

He did, Geralt's entire dialogue is composed of grunts, and his facial expression is some variation of a frown. Perfect for Cavill, because it doesn't ask much.

"Fuck."

Maybe game Geralt but book Geralt is not a moody edge lord

@@lordyrich idk never read the books but I’m pretty sure they changed a lot of the story from the books like geralt supposed to meet ciri in the Druid forest but never did In the show so it wouldn’t surprise me if they made geralt more stoic I honestly like this geralt his not to talkative

Book Geralt is nothing like Cavills at all.

hadnt thought of this... v true

totally. that scene doesnt transpire into the movies.

Frodo? He had the Ring in his keeping for 17 years and Gandalf visited in the meantime...if you mean Bilbo, then he kept the Ring for about 60 years till events of The Hobbit to the beginning of Fellowship (the famous birthday party) then 17 years later Frodo's quest actually starts. In all that time Gandalf was investigating as well as doing other stuff being busy with the rise of Sauron and growing troubles in the world, as well as hunting for Gollum, participating in the White Council meeting (years after events of The Hobbit) and so on. Doing research on the Ring also takes time, since there are few actual written sources, the archives of Minas Tirith etc. The movies merely hint at the passage of some time from the birthday party of Bilbo but don't specify how much time passed (in any case the films have different restrictions, though the passage of time can be alluded to even there). Frodo physically stops aging at the moment he receives the Ring, (it's the Ring's power to do so) and so he would look at the time of the start of the journey just like he looked when the birthday party was so when he was 33 years old, (the hobbits 'coming-of-age' date) so one can handwave it in the films in any case the Hobbits age somewhat slower than Men, and live longer commonly reaching a 100 years old etc.

Especially because there are universal messages in the story already, but good writing doesn't shove it down your throats

Nevermind that we watch fantasy precisely to get away from all the bullshit we deal with irl.

One thing about the female anatomy not supporting the trial of grasses, makes Ciri even more special in the game as one of the ends, she becomes a witcher. But the reason why she can do it, is not because of some bs narrative that makes no sense.....she is literally the child of the prophecy, she has elder blood...so its only natural that she is the only woman that can manage to become a real witcher.

@@categoricamente1753 she doesnt become witcher per se anatomy wise though, she becomes one because she acts like a witcher and hunts monsters, because she has powers of her own. There never was mentioned she want through trial of grasses. She was just learning from Vesemir

Let’s hope it won’t be Cavill as Gulliman with his two Aeldari waifu’s Yvraine and Sylandri hunting daemons on his trusty steed Roach 😉

@@artnull13 He would be perfect as Bellisarius Cawl though... the one liners and memes from that alone would be epic.

Agreed. Hes awesome 👍❤

season 2 were to pick from the ending of the second book. this means that season 1 would be their coverage of books 1 and 2. they saw that fans had a mostly positive reception of season 1 (I found it pretty weak, but I was genuinely hopeful that it would get better because I felt that most of the vital pieces were there). so, they got confident and tried to extend it by inventing a new story to avoid progressing the book's plot. they got greedy and killed the golden goose looking for more than just the golden eggs. and it infuriates me because you could easily use an accurate adaptation of the books to draw attention and audience and just use it to develop spin offs. the witcher's world and lore is vast enough for that. I just hope netflix crashes and burns, honestly

" How good" is not a statement that expresses the range of emotions Geralt had. Grunts and frowns are not "good" acting. Just surprisingly fitting for a character like Geralt. He's a real man, shows no emotions, right!? Pfffff hahaha

When it comes to season 1 I have to actually give the showrunners some credit. The first book have a very similar way of storytelling, as it is bunch of short stories that happened at different points in time and you have to sort of piece together when everything happens. I was actually very surprised they stuck with that for the series. And you don't get much explained in the first books either, but they do help when you start the true saga, as it sort of connects everything together the more you read. But they wen the exact opposite way when it comes to the second season. Besides the first episode which is also one of the short stories, they went completely off the rails and just had some minor points that was similar to the books. While I was still entertained, I can't deny that some thing pissed me off a lot.

It was needlessly complicated for the sake of shock value

@@Merwanor Honestly, not really, even in s1 they made lots of changes, they butchered geralt-ciri relationship by cutting their bonding in brokilon forest which is an essential part of building their relationship in result they also butchered the "something more" story from the books, in the books vilgefortz was the hero of soden hill battle and he was the one who led the battle not Yen, they butchered Eyck character, they butchered the lesser evil story in ep1, fringilla never studied in aretuza school, she always lived in nilfguard, they butchered cahir characrer as well, in the book he was a respected knight, they even changed geralt and yennefer characters, they are way different in the books.

​@@samf.s.7731 bottom feeder moment.

Fans: Wish granted, we're out...

Yeah, making a sequel to TW3:B&W is unnecessary. I'm a bit worried about what Polaris will entail

Well yeah, the games after all happen AFTER the end of the books, so the games are unofficial sequels to books, while the netflix show was in theory supposed to be adaptation of books...but they couldn't even make a good and faithful adaptation so it basically became a fanfic of the netflix script writers who care more about diversity and other such agendas than the story and world of the Witcher haha :). The games are far more lore friendly and canon compliant that one can believe that books and games happen in the same continuity, the games happen few years after the last book The Lady of the Lake, while the netflix show so far hasn't even reached that stage and hell season 2 was supposed to be based on the Blood of Elves, but almost nothing remained and entirety of the storyline of that season was invented by showmakers, while season 3 is supposed to use the novel Time of Contempt as basis (and then season 4 supposedly will take Baptism of Fire, and if the show by some miracle survives the Tower of the Swallow and The Lady of the Lake but I now doubt that show will survive so long haha :))...unfortunately....Baptism of Fire was always my favorite book so I bet it will be ruined the most, the butterfly effect of all those changes and alterations the netflix arleady did to the story will make it all unrecognizeable in the end.

@@fantasywind3923 I think everyone here knows that the games take place after the books, hell, they retcon the fact that Geralt dies at the end of the books, lol. The only thing we said is that B&W is the perfect ending for Geralt's story. I haven't read the books, so watching the show hasn't been quite as painful for me as for many others. But if they screw it up to the point where Cavill just straight up leaves then I know something is very wrong. I had no idea the whole Baba Yaga thing wasn't in the books, since most of the stuff in The Witcher is inspired by Slavic folklore anyway, I just thought "ok, makes sense". The more I learn about the show's weak connection to the books, the less I wanna watch it. I was looking forward to watching the spinoff, but decided not to waste my time after seeing the reviews and learning that they basically pulled the whole thing out of a single sentence in a single book. I started watching the show to learn about what happens in the books but apparently that's out of the window, lol.

Of course it would've been alright. It still probably wouldn't be great because core staff sucks, but Witcher books are praised because they're good. Tv show is not a story from the books that's proven to work great.

i think the opposite, the saga had too few actions for a TV show, we can't have one or two big fight scenes in a season, people will get bored, but the short stories were very interesting

The Striga eipsode is really bad. It was all about jelousy, who rules the kongdom, the kings struggle, pov of a regular citizen/villager and also pov of middle man, in the show we got none of it

No one sane blames Liam for the Witcher disaster. The blame is solely on the showrunner for going for woke points where none were asked for or wanted.

Dear oh dear you haven’t read the books have you. Triss used magic to Date Rape Geralt even before the books take place.

True triss is best love

@@KeytarArgonian ..No I haven't read the books. I've played the game and it's Yen in the games who tricked Geralt.

Yeah I wasn't worried about HC either, it's not like Geralt is Hamlet. He genuinely has the emotional range of a potato.

​@@samf.s.7731 you are in almost every comment hating on Henry Cavill. What did he do to you?

@@pyromeerkat4641 yeah its really pathetic

@@samf.s.7731 baby

@@pyromeerkat4641 Ya the dude is a salty tool. Ive noticed this too...

Plus putting in this crap will make the show look SO dated.

Omg yesss please!!!!

Mirelka was a little girl in the books her father mayor of the Blaviken named Caledemayn was helping Geralt in books even give him place to sleep on his house attic. So this was a change simply because they think there were to many "important" man in the story.

Yeah I mean it sucks when the characters don't look like the novel counterpoints ... but if the story was good in any way I wouldn't have complained. Instead the show is trash with trash writing and the casting is off

No I take issue with the cast. I take issue because I know why they race swapped the characters, we all know. They call us racists for questioning whether a white to coloured racist swap was really the best actor for the job. Oh you just don't like coloured people. 100% of the time a coloured person is a better actor than a white person but 0% of the time is a white person a better actor for a coloured character. It's gas lighting at it's finest. I know so I take issue with it.

@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Like?

@@davide4725 like what?

Women ☕

Also episode 3 from season 1 - with striga.

No it's Cavil's He left to play superman. He's barely talented, kinda attractive, and is now old. Hemsworth is actually better in terms of all of that, but not the agent. Cavil has always had the better one.

​@@samf.s.7731 this comment doesn't even mention Henry Cavill and you are still hating on him. What did he do to you?

@@samf.s.7731 Keep crying lil boy

​​@@pyromeerkat4641 Henry Cavill musta kicked this dude's dog or something fr

​@@samf.s.7731 How much is Netflix dishing out for you to shill for their dumpster fire of a show? Did you shill for Cuties too?

The criticism of this kind are to some extent understandable, if the show focused more on Geralt in season 1 giving him proper time to show off and explore his personality it wouldn't feel like the show is moving the main character to the sidelines but unfortunately already in season 1 the show shifted focus to other characters more, while the season 1 was supposed to be based on the tomes of short stories focused on Geralt...The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny, some of the stories were butchered and much more attention was given to Yennefer, then obviously the choice of actors, Freya Alan character in the show for some lacks the spark of the book Ciri, she is more bland and so less easy to get into her story for the audience, the fans of the witcher books always will be disappointed with the further and further divorcing from source material to the point where season 2 which was supposed to be straightforward adaptation of Blood of Elves novel, turned out to be in 80/90 percent a netflix fanfic so...the Time of Contempt portion of story is also seriously damaged by the netflix creative choices, some of the plot elements they used in season 2 belonged to that book so there is no point in reusing them in season 3, so the elements of the book plot will inevitably be gone and replaced by yet another original writing ot the showrunner and her writer's room, which turns to be often crappy. Ciri is vital character for entire saga, but Geralt still is very much important protagonist...and now with the actor leaving and season 4 having Liam Hemsworth for it....well the story portion that would roughly correspond to Baptism of Fire,...which is probably one of the best books setting up the group of Geralt's helpers and friends, his 'hanza', characters that are often fan favorites...so I have a bad feeling about this :) overall.

@@fantasywind3923 oh, I do not want to see what they will do to Regis

@@stcsuntzucreed yeah...also Milva....since the casting choice for her according to rumors is already made, she will appear in the season 3 already supposedly, and the others....hell Zoltan, I mean I wasn't big on the netflix interpretation of Yarpen Zigrin so I'm sure won't be happy with what they'll do with Zoltan (in any case the general portrayal of the dwarves and elves leaves MUCH to be desired).

@@fantasywind3923 yeah. I think the only casting that I found excellent were Dandelion and Geralt... can't comment much on other casting since I didn't watch after season 1... heard it was bad so didn't bother checking it out

They are making a Rats series… so I’m assuming they’re cutting the whole Rats storyline?