The Halo TV Show Is Extremely BAD | Asmongold Reacts to The Act Man 

The absolute sheer audacity to even hint that one of the MOST SUCCESSFUL video game franchises is holding you back in terms of narrative is fucking ridiculous

Henry Cavill literally fought with the show runners to have the roach scene. And he is a true one when it comes to maintaining world atmosphere, considering they show runners wanted that scene to be funny......

What we wanted: The Mandalorian but with Master Chief. What we got: A cheap Sci-Fi original knock-off

Incredible how all the Halo 2 Anniversary Edition CG cutscenes look better than anything in the show. Those cutscenes still hold up.

Chief actually DID show emotion. It was just *subtle*. He didnt need to scream his emotions to the world, the devs showed it with litte things. You know, GOOD storytelling devices.

It is ego for the series to be written this way, and it's also contempt for the fans. The people behind this show hate fans of Halo and despise video game players. The same thing was done to the Wheel of Time series. The writers hate the fans of the books and think they know better and can write a better show than what Robert Jordan created. These people have never won an award or written anything popular, so instead they'll destroy other people's works, as revenge for what they see as recognition they are owed. Narcissistic ego-maniacs that hate and despise normal everyday people. That is exactly what this is all about, ego and contempt.

Speaking of Spartan-IIs and how they show emotion, I'm gonna leave a lore trivia bit here. According to some of the written material, what does it signify when a S-II draws a line across their helmet? Or when they look at another Spartan and point one finger to the ground followed by making a circular motion? If those questions just reminded you of the signals and codes from the books, you might've thought of what I did when imagining the TV show's writers going "but they need to take the helmets off to show emot-" No. No they do not. They never had these 'chips' in the first place, they still FELT emotion but trained to control it, and found all sorts of ways to convey their thoughts and, yes even emotions, to other Spartans without being obvious to everyone around them. Hell, even that brief bit with Kelly and Fred in Forward Unto Dawn felt like it had a tiny bit of that aspect in there. EDIT: Just wanted to add on, there was a huge missed opportunity here for communication based on dozens of body-language cues and non-verbal signals, thrown out the window in favor of straight-forward rage.

In Halo’s case I think where they failed was not having enough faith in the source material. I think they were afraid that having a faceless killing machine wouldn’t draw in a crowd which is a shame because part of what makes Spartans so intriguing is if they are following their programming or if they are actually making choices of their own free will.

Imagine a Halo show were you recast Keyes and Miranda to be black, but you remove Johnson, one of the most universally liked Halo characters *that is already black* from the show. Said same character would have also worked for those sex scenes they really seemed to want! He knows what the ladies like afterall.

I love how Asmon brought up Dredd (2012), it was a very underrated movie imo and pretty much told a very good story of Judge Dredd character in a simple movie that was less than 2 hours long, a seemingly impossible task for something today. Literally they just needed to turn the Halo game into a TV show and call it a day but no they basically ruined everything and now nothing can save this show.

Halo 3 came out the day I had a middle school dance… a bunch of buddies and I blew off the dance and got together for an all-night LAN party playing Halo 3 across a few 360’s. That was an awesome night… no regrets skipping the dance for that!

Also, Foe Hammer would fit into a TV show so well, she would be a great character, she'd make sense, and, because Hollywood cares more about diversity than literally anything else, it would help them check boxes.

Never understand what’s behind the producers’ minds when they have these projects. Did they do research on the target market? When they make movie about games, did it ever cross their minds that the people who play the games are the main consumer group? Sometimes, it just baffles me how easily money goes wasted like this. But hey, let the sales and numbers do the talking, right? Eventually, they’ll know. And maybe eventually we’ll get a cutscene compilation as a movie where it gets good reviews

They saw Avatar The Last Airbender's adaptation and thought it was a challenge.

The Master Chief in the books, though described through different writers, is very reminiscent to the Master Chief seen in the first three games. He is a quiet, focused, badass super soldier who is meant to carry the reader or player through the story directly without separating himself through unnecessary character development. His character developed with the reader, not the writer, and it made him perfect for the main avatar in a video game series. Whether or not this would have converted to television well is beside the point, they abandoned the core mechanic of what made Halo so amazing for readers and players alike. It’s a shameless, poorly written story with no ties to what makes Halo original hoping to bleed the franchise even further by plastering it’s name on the front and drawing viewers from its fan base.

Red vs Blue was a far better adaptation of Halo, lol.

"Halo DID appeal to a broad audience" a truer statement has never been said. I generally really dislike shooters, but I LOVED Halo.

We got the whole gang together to watch the first episode. Even had an old school LAN right before it. None of us have watched since he took his helmet off.

The voice of the male survivor in FO4 said that, while He'd never played Fallout before, to prepare for the role, he sat down and played through Fallout 3 to get a feel for the world. So even the voice of a build-it-yourself protagonist in a game with an open ended story line took the time to learn the territory.

The "modern day American writer"'s formula for success: Epic romance forced into everything, everyone has to be dramatic and immature, gender and race changing of established characters, big moments that are unearned and therefore don't have any impact, reminding people who've been fans of the core material for decades that they are wrong and that they, the great showrunners, obviously know much better.

My theory is that the Halo TV series is actually a completely separate Sci-Fi series that Paramount tried to make a few years ago while The Expanse was big, but they couldn't get the green light for it. Fast Forward to a few years later, Sci-Fi isn't dead but The Expanse fire is burning a bit lower and some random studio creator of said sci-fi series says, "Hey, why don't we throw 'Halo' onto that old sci-fi series we tried to make, put some of the human guys in armor and call them Spartans, hot-swap whatever aliens we were gonna use for random Covenant guys, and call it good?" And the Paramount studio execs were like "Hey my grandkids played Halo, I think. Yeah lets do it." And this is what we got.

I'm still amazed that of of the gold standards for respecting a video game as a source material in a movie/TV adaptation is Sonic the Hedgehog 2. What a world.

I remember in the books, a specific line stuck out to me that went about; "...Chief promptly swiped the remaining sentinel out of the air with the butt of his rifle, and proceeded to stomp it to death." All calm, cool headed, dude literally deflects a missile iirc *with his hands and armor* completely tearing tendons and breaking bones, but has the mental strength to just literally say no to pain. To just focus in. Still makes it to the end running all ripped up, dodging bullets. What even is this interpretation

the best part of the game was that Master Chief was the "machine" as a human and cortana was the "human" as a AI, and the story follow their evolution.

Imagine how terrifying the flood introduction could be if they decided to retell the game story. Even most of their level would be scary to see.

Literally had the great concept for a Halo show randomly Each season is a different game, each episode is based off and named by a level When chiefs around Marines, tell the story from their perspective, about this legendary super soldier and what effect his presence has on them "No way, a Spartan! He's here, were going to be ok!" Hell, have scenes of Marines walking to the objective, chiefs all tactical, serious, watching angles, while the Marines are just shooting the shit with each other, and then, have chief interact in minor ways, like responding with single words, or even a nod at a funny joke they tell Then, when chiefs alone, it's his perspective, very few words, a lot of actions to judge him off of, he mostly banters with Cortana, or, in 343 guilty spark, show him being unnerved by all the weird occurrences, leading to the flood release, show him panicked, fighting to get out as fast as possible, all with actions, not chief saying I'm scared Money printer right there Edit: and you don't need action scenes all the time, you can replace encounters with a quicker stealth scene to show off chiefs, and arbiters, stealth talents, or omit them for a bigger fight down the line, it doesn't have to be exactly one to one, some episodes can have more action than others, the ones that don't have as much get the luxury of character establishment and development

Honestly, they could have based this off the books and had the extra spartans (was mildly irritated that they did not use the actual Blue Team but w/e) The part that just ruined it for me was a human working with the prophets From what I’ve read (about 15 books of the series) the prophets would never allow a human ally (due to spoiler reasons, seriously read the books they are amazing) Also they based the planets wrong. Madrigal is much more of a forest than a desert and it’s people were influenced by South American culture as opposed to a desert world that was influenced by Korean culture

i personally would love a halo show on Noble Six hell we don't even know his name before noble six all we know him/her is as a lonewolf

The people that created this show straight up said they never played or looked at any gameplay from any halo game and weren't going to because they were going to do there own story. As soon as they said that everyone should have known this was going to suck ass.

The Actors were fine, the writers seemed like they purposely tried to make the show as horrible as possible.

Can we also talk about the fact that it takes a literal team and robotics to put the suit? If there was sexy time in the show did he struggle himself to get the suit off or was the team there...what an awkward situation that would be.

Imagine getting contracted to make a story based on a previous story, and then going, "yeah, no. We're not gonna follow the previous story. We don't want to be held back". What? That's what you're here for!

The biggest, most important point to all of this for me, is that there's quite literally 20 YEARS of character development, through the books, the games, etc. It's so so frustrating, and the ONLY, and I mean ONLY reason I continued to finish the first season, is because the child in me wants to see halo in live action, even if it's in the background while I'm on my phone. The past 7 years of Halo as a whole has been so disappointing. It's so upsetting, and there's nothing we can do at this point. Except I guess petition to change the whole thing. Idk. Fuck

Honestly, they could have kept even that "I take my helmet off to show me I am like you"-scene. Just do not show US THE VIEWERS the face. Hide Chief from the camera with a well placed wall, and next to the wall, you see chief's hands that hold his helmet. "See? I'm a human too." Then the hands pull back and the magic is still there. And after that just rewrite everything to make it good. Okay keep the battle-scenes, they were dope.

In the bonus features of the Warcraft Movie, it suffered from the opposite end of the caring and ambition spectrum. The director really cared about the world and tried to capture features and characteristics of WoW such as being able to travel across the world in a matter of minutes and there being two sides that people choose. Also, love how the main human dude was played by Ragnar from Vikings.

Imagine a universe where Peter Jackson never bothered to read the books but was somehow in the position to direct The Lord of the Rings anyway.

It's crazy that the same studio that shit this Halo show out also made Sonic work amazingly in live action twice now. If asked a few years ago, you would've thought it'd be the opposite. Really shows what having a team that cares and respects the source material and fans can do for a franchise.

Just made grilled chicken, peppers, onions, and rigatoni.

I read a few of the Halo books back in like 2007 (granted they didnt use master chief except maybe a few mentions) and they talked a lot about the politics around the war and insurrectionists they also talked a lot about the process of becoming and being a spartan it was quite interesting. I think they shouldn't have used Master Chief in the show and it would have been fine.

Halo 4s story was actually pretty great. Chief only showed a shed of emotion when cortana died - if you can even call him that. He literally just was asking cortana to come home with him when she was clearly goone.. It added another layer to his chracter without butchering Master Chief. Johns story was actually very interesting in the books and mini movies - they completely changed his origin.

It baffles me how much money went into the production of this tv show.

You're telling me that Dr Halsey, or her team of scientists, found a way to manipulate the human body of a kid to go from scrawny to hulking 7 foot tall war machine. Manipulate the pituitary gland just enough to replicate tall muscular soldiers and give them psychological training to focus purely on the mission like a machine, days upon days of rigorous mental and physical testing, and anything that could've been left to chance would be covered by the microchip inside their brains. They have essentially perfected a way to create the ultimate super soldier. But somehow, John just slipped through the cracks with his desire for women. All that testing and he still found a way to get urges. This isn't just making John look bad, it is making Dr. Halsey look like a moron for not seeing it coming.

At this point, the first TV show that is an adaptation of a game or books to listen to the fans and give them what they want will be the first show that succeed and make billions

I talked to a family friend at a dinner party. He's about 50 years old, likes scifi, and has never played the halo games or read any of the books. He said "I liked it, it was entertaining and I liked the aliens and John's internal struggle to find himself in this tumultuous world. I don't understand why people are angry about it its just another sci fi show." That is who it was made for.

Imagine they did each game as a season, kept and respected its likeness and just told the games through a tv show people would probably like the show more, youd get an ez like 8 seasons and it wouldnt be overwhelming because all youd have to do is research that games/books lore and what happens instead of the entire halo universe

The halo universe is so expansive and cool, that I’d like to see stories told in it. I know this show never would have been picked up without Master chief, but an ONI show would have been wild

Master Chief did show emotion, but it was SUBTLE. He wasn't shouting and screaming like some angsty teenager, he kept his emotions in check- like a professional. Even when he was visibly angry in his tone, it was justified. He feels scared for the first time in Halo 1 when he encounters the Flood for the first time. He shows his anger when he gets frustrated at Guilty Spark in the Forerunner Library. He has a moment of sadness finding Captain Keyes corpse. He feels fear seeing the Gravemind in Halo 2. In Halo 3, he's even almost happy to see The Arbiter again. In Halo 4, you could see the desperation to save Cortana in his actions. In Infinite, he pays respects to dead Spartan's he discovers, and at the end of the game almost gives his pilot a pat on the back for surviving being tortured - but he pulls back his hand because he's unsure it would help. This is before even reaching the detail the books go into, because while he is just as focused and mission-oriented, they give a closer look into the thoughts of Master Chief.

Master Chief was a trained super soldier taught how to fight and survive, and thats it. The show coulda been so good if it started off with fighting and destruction and surviving against the odds. They coulda slowly added in emotions as he interacts with victims of brutality or when he saves a group of soldiers behind enemy lines. If they introduced a sex scene in season 3 of the show, after developing his relationships and personality in season 1-2, and after an intense life or death battle (or just before), no one would complain. It would have a reason to exist at that point as its own standalone saga. Instead they went 0 to 100 and forgot how film making works and the fact master chief is literally an already fleshed out character before the show. The writers should be fired, the director should be fired, the cinematographers should be fired, everyone should be fired, its all dogshit 90% of the time. When they actually play the parts that match the games, its ok.

I actually hated the action scenes as I found them inconsistent, one second a gun wouldn't work on a Convenent the next it would... it would just have to be in a Spartans hands. Honestly I like some of the scenes like the gamberling scene at the start, it just wasn't very... consistent... I think I mentioned that already.

It's basically the porn parody of Halo. 25 years ago this would only be available on pay-per-view

honestly shows and productions like these are why people come back to things such as fast and furious. we dont need the forced complexity and strange choices in character development, I just want to see the most badass shit ever. its like asmongold said "it should just be dudes in armor blasting at aliens." Its true but every director and producer wants to be a "artist"

Can you imagine if they made the TV show based around Sgt. Johnson during the events of Halo CE? Sure we could have the Master Chief part of the show, BUT he'd probably be used sparingly, depending on where Johnson and the Chief would meet in the game, and when he would be seen, we'd see Master Chief fight like a God of War, leading Johnson and the Marines, before he would break away from Johnson and do his thing. Then midway through the show, you'd see Johnson's perspective of their encounter with the Flood, and they could have paid tribute to the Halo Graphic Novel by portraying how he managed to narrowly escape the flood. Towards the end of the season the stakes are high as he manages to regroup with a few marines and a Naval Officer, and they desperately fight their way through the Covenant and the flood, to a pelican that they would use to evacuate Halo, before it's destroyed. (Which would be a nice reference to Halo: First Strike) Of course Johnson would retain his expected humor and charisma throughout the season, showing off his enhanced abilities, as he was a SPARTAN-1, which gave him improvements throughout his body. Such a missed chance for Paramount, at the very least they could have had a competent director work with a team of knowledgeable people of the Halo series, to create literally anything that would have been better than the hot garbage that this show ended up being. I would have rather used the time I spent watching this show, to play the games instead.

Whoever created this show probably hated Manfalorian and how people loved a man in a helmet

Two of my favorite tubers, Act Man and Asmongold. Would love to see them do a video or stream together.

Imagine if they did the show as a retelling of the Og trilogy, but with flashbacks to the books as well. Ep. 1 starts off with a low lit pelican, the shadowed faced of young Dr. Halsey & Lt. Keys are dimly lit by flashing red lights alerting those aboard of imminent landing. They are discussing the spartan program. Halsey answers a question with "that's classified" and Key's responds in a manner that makes it seem that it wasn't the first time he had gotten that answer. As the lander opens, Halsey mentions something about a particularly suitable candidate for the experiment and the camera pans across the school to a young boy, kicking ass at king of the hill. Transition aboard the pillar of Autumn. Exposition between Captain Keys & Cortana just like the game. Closeup on keys' eyes to emphasize age difference, then pan to the pipe. Zooms into the ember of his pipe, transitions from key's pipe to Sgt. Johnson's cigar embers. He is in a lower hold, giving the legendary version of the speech to the marines. Get a wide shot of the pillar of autumn being dwarfed by the size of the ring, and show the covenant ships closing in. play intro sequence. The muted sound of speech can be heard from the other side of a frozen door. As it the ice melts, and the door opens the audience hears "Sorry for the quick thaw master chief, things are a little hectic right now." From there the episode would follow the first level of CE. Episode ends with Chief's pod "landing" and him getting KO'd Episode 2 starts with his earliest memories in the spartan program, becoming spartan 117 & being teamed up with 2 other kids and told to complete an obstacle course as a team. It takes a few tries to get it right, the instructor emphasizes the necessity of teamwork, and that nobody can win alone. this is most of the episode. Chief wakes up to Cortana yelling at him to get up, the pod is a crumpled, gory mess. He calmly takes weapons and ammo from the dead, and proceeds to kill some aliens, and 2 banshees before hearing about survivors and episode ends there. Mix up the order as to when, how, and for how long to do the flashbacks vs game content and repeat until you're out of source material. Or ya know, make a show about ODST in the early days of the war and leave the Spartans out until season 1 finale. That way you have a whole season of establishing the covenant as powerful foes, and elites as the bowel cleansing death machines they are, before you bring in the cavalry.

Funny thing is. I think this was made for people who like things like the twilight movies. Basically middle aged millennial women who don't play video games

The fact that there is so much lore, books, games in the halo universe basically means the story is already written for you!

imagine making a show based on a major cash cow and still fumbling the bag

I remember when the wow dev team back in cata i think it was were talking about legacy servers and they said "you think you do but you don't" that's all I hear from them when we say that we don't want them to deviate from the source material.

I'm not worried about it. This looks like the equivalency of Stallone's version of Dredd. Now we have to wait for the Karl Urban version of Halo where Master Chief doesn't take off his helmet ever.

Imagine if Quantum TV went to make another review and this time to say Halo show was good, just to spite Act Man.

There must be some guy from 343, like a lore master or advisor giving the Ok to the trash script or decisions they made. I can't believe they let the franchise be treated as a joke. Just shows how 343 is insanely incompetent and needs to stop making Halo. I feel bad for Joe Staten, he cannot fix this mess alone

The best story they could have done is starting with the events after the loss of Spartan Samuel 034 and leading to Halo: Reach presenting Master Chief building up his legend and ending when he wakes up after the UNSC Pillar of Autumn approaches the Halo Ring. It's Star Wars all over again, there was plenty of source material that they had and they are acting like it was a struggle to put together a story for "all audiences" treating it like Frankenstein's Monster.

Can you imagine if they had gone the route of Halo: Combat Evolved for the show? How spooky they could've made the show when they introduced the Flood? That scared the piss out of me when I was a kid.

I never played the Halo Series, but even I know that the Master Chief never puts down its helmet. And I know also that the Covenants are religious zealots that kill anything that isn't part of their race.

The Act Man was recently on the Every frame a pause podcast yall should go check it out

My honest hope. Is that if they make the second season. That they learn from their mistakes and make a great show.

I would honestly forget these two were not on a stream together, their complaints and statements would mesh so perfectly I'd forget that they aren't actually having a conversation.

My dad actually really liked this show. Heres the caviat though, he's never watched halo nor knows the series. This show really aint for halo fans, thats for sure lmao

When the film rights to The Crow were bought they told the creator "We want to make a musical starring Michael Jackson." After a minute of silence the creator looked at the studio heads and said "Why did you spend all this money to acquire the rights to use my work when you are going to turn it into something completely different?" We need more of this kind of response to studios when they acquire the adaptation rights to anything.

18:06 ironically having some steal Chiefs armor feels like it could be a better story than what we got. You could go with the whole angle of ep 1 you don't reveal the face till the very last scene or somehow reveal that the man in the suit ain't chief adding mystery to the character despite showing his face and just leave people incredibly confused about what happened and you just play like run the story of how he got the armor through flash backs or something and from there have the season finale be actually having chief show up to take the armor

I remember watching that cutscene where Cheif takes the bomb through the debree and deliver it straight to the mothership. I remember thinking I want to see this in a halo movie.

And there’s a passionate subgroup in the halo fan base that really want more Arbiter. Our space dino. I can say we have no faith to see him done correctly.

Literally only needed to hire Michael Bay and the show would have been solid af.

If I recall, they actually spent a bit of time on the ring before MC blew it up. The survivors were also able to establish Alpha Base, so imagine some episodes based around Marines doing side missions as a small break from MC's perspective, and have it end with them linking back up with MC when they infiltrate the Covvie ship at night. Stuff like that would've been so cool.

It's funny how these women's studies college graduates end up as writers in Hollywood. Then they have the audacity to think they're better writers than legends like J.R.R. Tolkien, Andrzej Sapkowski or Terry Pratchett and they start editing their works for their own liking while lacking any understanding of the original work.

>chemically castrated supersoldiers >does the segs Logic 100

Should’ve been a focused on regular soldiers or ODST fighting the war, then build up the the reputation of Spartans through dialogue like they’re a myth so that when they show up to fuck shit up, its hype af, I imagine kind of like how everyone was waiting for Goku to show up to fights, rinse and repeat a few times and boom, you have a solid 8 - 10 episode Halo series

This guy wasn't master chief, he wasn't even John 117. He was just John

The fact that Master Chief was never shown with his helmet off for 20 years but in this “Show” he takes it off every chance he got. I couldn’t even watch the “show” and I never will.

And you can't even say it was SJW's that ruined it. They straight washed a canon Asexual character. In the books, it's said that due to the treatments Masterchief had to undergo suppressed his sexual urges. It wasn't a chip he could just pull out. Was it the best possible Ace representation? No. But it was one of the only ones Asexuals had. For 20 years, he was a representative of the Asexual community and they got rid of it so he could commit a war crime by sleeping with a P.O.W.

For an alternative timeline that was merely a "instead of the blue team, Master Chief went with the silver team", there was a LOT that was different in that timeline even before that, especially when it came to the Geas. Y'know, the gene that the Librarian from the Forerunners imposed on all of humanity, not just a handful of the "Blessed Ones"?

That article said it all..."Our ego is bigger than the source material"

I would've made the tv show centered around the side characters and left Master Chief to be this mysterious bigger than life character that comes in for the save like he so often does in the game. That way you can build hype, mystery, and anticipation for him instead of immediately killing off all anticipation by showing his face right away. Use him and the covenant to move the plot around while building him and the story and drama around him up with the side characters. This also allows you to keep the story as it is within the games, but making it different in way that keeps things interesting and reveals more information about the world around them and the characters that don't get as much spot light in the games, bringing them to the forefront. I'd center a lot of the show around dr. halsey, her daughter, (Depending on what time the story is taking place, the Spartan IV's or odst, whether it's before or after the fall of reach), Miranda Keyes, Avery Johnson, John Hawkins, or even The Arbiter depending on what story you're focusing on. Either way there are a lot of great side characters with some amazing stories to flush out. Like with John Hawkins and his redemption arc from the betrayal and shame his father brought. Or Jacob Keyes and his crazy victory against Covenant over the planet Sigma Octanus IV. And his conflict against Thel 'Vadamee (The Arbiter before he gains the title) in Halo The Cole Protical which would sow the doubt sown within the Arbiter's mind about the Prophets. And eventually having Keyes captured and assimilated by the flood so Master Chief has to kill him would be absolutely crazy. There's just so many good stories to flush out with the side characters, that I would only show Master Chief during critical times where he comes in and saves the day which would give a huge pay off.

I was hesitant on this series to begin with so I waited until the season finished and used my paramount plus free trial. Here's my takeaway after binging it. Spoiler warning: PROS: -Some of the casting was pretty solid, I actually think the actor they chose for master chief was a good pick, only the writing was lacking. -the set work was pretty awesome, some cool visual locations -the special effects were pretty top notch, not surprising since Spielberg had a hand in producing the show. -the tributes to the game were pretty well-done/tasteful (sound effects, fps camera shots, jokes, Cortana's VA, etc.) CONS: -This show had some of the weakest writing on any show I've ever witnessed, and for that, the actors and fans suffered the most. That's where I fault the failings of this show. -Aside from a few things, pretty much the whole season was a bastardization of Halo lore. -Initially, I thought removing the helmets/suits of the Spartans was the wrong idea and that they should've followed Mandalorian formula, however I quickly realized that the suits were way too bulky to do every single scene that didn't involve combat and I understood their approach to trying to humanize the Spartans more in their formal/civilian-wear HOWEVER they 100% overused this approach. Chief removes his helmet in the first episode, come on! It feels like the Spartans spent more time out of their suits then in them. ALSO, these Spartans who are expertly trained warriors were using the dumbest logic when removing their helmet in certain scenarios... especially combat scenarios exposing themselves multiple times. Basically, any time they were in the field/on-mission, their helmets should have just remained on. -A serious lack of full (suited-up) action scenes. There seemed to be only 3 of these scenes, one in the first episode, one in the last, and one somewhere in the middle. That's a complete failure for a Halo series. -In a tv series, it's expected that we would get new characters to flesh out the world a little bit, but so many of the supporting characters felt like self-insertion sci-fi ideas from the writers who probably failed to publish it in a book or something akin. Moreover, many of them had no point to even exist beyond one episode and took away from Chief and the Spartans significantly, and their storyline didn't even converge into the main story of the season at all. Prime examples being Kwan Ha, Makee, and Vinsher. Outside of ep 1 & 2, Kwan Ha's story felt like pointless filler. Makee was a totally weird, unnecessary, and unexplained addition who quite frankly just distracted from what should've been Chief & Cortana's arc alone, and Vinsher was basically a local crime lord for JUST Kwan Ha's story (and what a waste of Burn Gorman! Also, not discrediting the other actors, they did fine for what they were given to work with). On the flip side, I thought Soren was an excellent character for the supporting cast and was at least interesting. A spartan who fled the program and knew Chief, but he got tied up in Kwan Ha's lackluster filler. -Why on earth would they not include Blue Team in this show, even if it's an 'alternate timeline'? No offense to the new Spartans they introduced for Silver team: Kai, Vannak, and Riz. I thought they were all pretty cool and well acted but they could've been introduced later on in the show as more Spartans or something. Any Halohead I personally know of would've wanted to see Kelly, Fred, and Linda in live-action and being fleshed out further... characters beloved almost as much as chief. They could've even worked Sam into the narrative somehow. All this time wasted on pointless side characters they created specifically for this show, when they could've been giving life to Blue Team... showing them off in their off-mission/civilian life, giving them their own subplots, etc. It would've made so much more sense for this show.

They turned it into a love story, halo should have had Deadpool vibes. Should have been a shoot em up banger of a show with just fun. It's different, I guess I'm just glad there's a show.

32:32 geez..... you would assume that people who try to make a show would at least try to understand (or at least look at) the thing they try to make a show out of.

I feel like they could have made it a point to give him a reason to never take his helmet off, like a betrayal of trust. Which is where I thought it was going.

You know that scene where “chief” punches the covenant followed with an awkward face closeup? That would have been fine, maybe good, if the show was showing Chief as a kid punching other students with a close up shot. That would’ve made things better and much more logical. Since there is already a face to associate with and he was in fact more human back then.

Bit random like,but an elder scrolls tv show would be sick! Obv keeping in step with the lore.Diffrent stories told sll throughout tamriel through seasons. One can only dream ey : )

20:52 Hey wtf halo 4 actually had an amazing story. It’s the first game which developed Master Chief’s character emotionally and it was done in a really great and subtle way. I love how the campaign starts off with Chief making it his mission to save Cortana from rampancy but is almost immediately side tracked with stopping the impending doom that the didactic presents to humanity. Ultimately Chief ends up failing to save Cortana just as he failed to save those scientists from disintegrating right in front of him. This game introduced the theme of helplessness and failure to Master Chief showing he’s not a perfect protector as well as him acknowledging that he’s not a machine but just human and I love it for that.

The fall of reach literally could have been a movie, or series but this isn't what any halo fan enjoys

I was in the Army when Halo was out and when Halo 2 was released we all played it in the barracks. Male and female soldiers. When I was deployed to Iraq and when we weren’t on missions, we’d connect the Xboxes and play 4 vs 4. Our ages ranged from 19 to 45 so to suggest only virgins in their basement play is disingenuous at best.

Do you remember the "Believe" campaign for halo 3, that was something i dont think we can ever fully experience. Because halo 3 the game was just so amazing.

If I remember correctly: according to the books Master Chief did have emotions like fear, but didn't show it.

I am here 1 years later, confirming TLOR tv show is as he predicted.

Rich's maniacal laughter said it all! 🤣

The last two episodes were pretty good except for the random sex scene. But overall, the show sucked. It was bad, didn’t feel like Halo at all. Master Chief was Master Cheeks and the worse of them all, Kwan. Why would I care about her when the game is mainly focus with Master Chief?!

I wanna see an alternate universe halo show that shows what would have happened if Johnson and both Keyes were still around after the events of Halo 3.

The directors straight up admitted they never played a single halo game for even a minute.