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Network Rescue - Small Office Rack Relocated and Beautified 

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In our first episode of network rescue, we feature how to deal with a tough situation - moving an entire network rack of equipment to another wall, without making mistakes! I cover all the important steps that we take, and while we had limited time in this video to get it all done, it came out pretty well. I learned a lot while filming and hope you learn something new as well!
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@stratfanstl
@stratfanstl 4 месяца назад
One additional suggestion any time equipment is moved. Have the administrator confirm in writing that they have a) logged into each switch, router or firewall, b) executed whatever command commits its running config to its flash memory to survive a power reset, c) extracted a backup of the configuration off of the device in case it needs to be pushed back in if the device doesn't recover cleanly from the power cycle.
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 4 месяца назад
This is such solid advice, I hope this comment floats up a bit, I will definitely make a mention of this in my next vid on this topic.
@Peter_Enis
@Peter_Enis 3 месяца назад
And perhaps use pen and paper to inventory the cables before you start pulling cables. A phone can die, pen and paper (simple excel standard form) will survive almost everything. Love the video's you do!!!!!
@Zedman3333
@Zedman3333 3 месяца назад
even take a few photos of the rack "before"
@nikhiljakate
@nikhiljakate 22 дня назад
My company is having 20U server rack, we have to improve our cabling inside the rack. If we used cable distributor can we close the door of rack.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 4 месяца назад
I like this series, would love to see more. Even though the before wasn't terrible, always nice to see little improvements built into the move.
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 4 месяца назад
I appreciate hearing that. I am putting together two more episodes and I tried to look for situations that were a bit more unusual. I am excited to finish editing :)
@EduardoSantos-ys8gg
@EduardoSantos-ys8gg 4 месяца назад
That was a solid job, and a great advice in the end. Some clients really are like family members, once you go near their stuff they feel like you are now their lifetime tech support.
@banana_bread_at_work
@banana_bread_at_work 4 месяца назад
Resting the switch on screws, placed below the desired U, is incredibly simple yet genius! At about 8:40
@AnthonyQuinnJr
@AnthonyQuinnJr 4 месяца назад
Happy to find someone that gives the vibes FiberNinja used too.
@oxfordbags
@oxfordbags 4 месяца назад
totally agree, I missed that channel for years until I found this one!
@laukage
@laukage 4 месяца назад
Wow how i miss FiberNinja.. great videos :(
@BenCos2018
@BenCos2018 4 месяца назад
agreed same here
@DavidM2002
@DavidM2002 3 месяца назад
Here's a tip from years ago when we were building our office and fitting out our network room. Once we determined which wall where all of the phone and network racks would go, instead of drywalling that wall, we covered it entirely with furniture grade plywood. Instead of plastering just the joints, we plastered the entire sheet with a very thin coat of mud and sanded it down so that it was indistinguishable from drywall. It was beautiful. And we could mount anything anywhere because we could drive screws anywhere on that wall without trying to find a stud.
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 3 месяца назад
That's solid practice if I ever heard it. I rarely have any say in how the room builds out, but if I'm lucky the contractor puts a board up across the whole wall and I can mount stuff anywhere. I never thought of skimming it, that's next level. I'm gonna try it sometime soon!
@pawpaw7646
@pawpaw7646 4 месяца назад
Very nice, efficiently done. Please keep these real-world practical network install/revise/rebuild videos coming!
@WillEliasRosalesRuiz
@WillEliasRosalesRuiz 2 месяца назад
muchas gracias por compartir! Saludos desde Honduras.
@RobinB787
@RobinB787 4 месяца назад
Nicely done. Looks much better now and easier to manage. Thanks!
@TheDrCarpy
@TheDrCarpy 4 месяца назад
Fantastic video. Amazing neatness and attention to detail.
@papie5151
@papie5151 3 месяца назад
Learning so much from this channel.
@charlespatt
@charlespatt 4 месяца назад
Nice video. One question I found good to ask the client (and users in some cases) ahead of time is if there are any known issues or problems that they have been having previously? When you're finished and you discover something not working right, it may be because it was that way before. Also, a lot of such problems may disappear (due to better connections and new patch cables) so you get extra credit for fixing that too!
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 4 месяца назад
I didn't even think of that, I will add it to my notes. Thanks!
@charlespatt
@charlespatt 4 месяца назад
@@tciproductions ha, valuable to do. My work was mainly with telecom and networking. I don't know how many times we put stuff back together and found a phone that didn't work. A little discussion and finally someone says "oh yeah, that one always had trouble!"😂 More often the problems they had previously may disappear once the wiring gets cleaned up!
@DeepakNaidu
@DeepakNaidu 4 месяца назад
Loving the series and the narration.
@johnizumi3917
@johnizumi3917 3 месяца назад
Derrek has a calming deep buttery smooth voice like a white morgan freeman😂
@danieldawson4937
@danieldawson4937 4 месяца назад
I have no experience in this kind of thing, but I imagine this would classify as one of those potential "nightmare jobs". For you to have finished it within 15 minutes of the allotted time is seriously impressive to me! Great content and I look forward to watching more!
@dyllburg
@dyllburg 3 месяца назад
I love this. Thank you for making this video!
@SyberPrepper
@SyberPrepper 4 месяца назад
Love this. Very nice and informative.!
@MuttMuttOutdoors
@MuttMuttOutdoors 4 месяца назад
Went through something similar myself recently. Moved into a house built about 100 years ago and have been working on it while living in it. Have pulled about 2K feet of ethernet and some OM3 fiber through the house with a bit more to go but had my router, server and switches sitting on a dresser in my office area. Finally bit the bullet and put the rack in place and got everything mounted. Still need to either upgrade or add a second UPS but that is for another day. My rack is a similar height to the one in the video but is full depth for my 4U server case (Chenbro NR40700). My rack is on wheels so it can be pulled out of the closet for maintenance or pulling more cables. I also have enough slack in the main lines that I can completely remove the rack from the closet (it's under a set of stairs with minimal room) without issue. I do have to ask why not go for patch cables that are custom length instead of using a tray to hold everything? For my OM3 connections I picked up some little seven inch cables and for all my ethernet I made 12" patch cables to keep things nice and tight which IMHO looks a lot cleaner. What is your opinion on using TIA B vs TIA A with Cat6? With Cat5 "B" was the spec I used and "A" was the old one but now it seems that "A" is the new correct standard again. Not sure what if anything the switch adds other than it is a bit tougher to pin out the cables using the "A" standard. How about the 8P8C jacks and plugs that are being touted as Cat7 and upcharged vs the old ones that were labeled Cat5 or not labeled at all but still compatible? From what I can tell the standard for the connectors hasn't changed a bit since they were introduced and I still use the ones I have had sitting around for 10 plus years. For those wondering I am currently running the Chenbro NR40700 with a SMC X8DT6-F and a pair of Xeon X5690's and TrueNAS, the router is in a Rosewill RSV L4500U with a SMC X10SLL-F and Xeon E3-1226 V3 and OpnSense, Fiber switch is a Quanta LB6M, the Ethernet switch is a Dell PowerConnect 5548, and the WiFi is provided via a pair of TP-Link EAP 650's (soon to be 3 when I get the upstairs finished) with a Omada OC200 controller and POE provided via TL-SG1005P. I use the 10G fiber as a backbone from my router, server, and desktop with a pair of DAC's connecting from the Quanta LB6M to the PowerConnect 5548. I also plan to have a fiber drop at two points in the living room, multiple points in the office, with one drop in each of the downstairs bedrooms, and two drops in the master suite which is being put in upstairs as a way to futureproof. I have a 3 24 port patch panels with one installed above and two below the PowerConnect 5548 and right below those the LB6M is installed and routes to the patch panel right above it.
@jfbeam
@jfbeam 4 месяца назад
If the customer(s) are happy with it, so be it, but you've just mixed Company A and Company B in the new setup. The original rack had them clearly separated. I love how neat the original infrastructure wiring was - once the mess was out of the way.
@fernandohg225
@fernandohg225 4 месяца назад
Great Job !!!
@FredsTech1
@FredsTech1 4 месяца назад
Thank you! Love your videos! Well done 👍
@skaliev6032
@skaliev6032 4 месяца назад
Love your videos!!!
@MatsGefvert
@MatsGefvert 4 месяца назад
I want to hire these guys and I don't even have a network!
@gerardlp640
@gerardlp640 4 месяца назад
Well done, very neat indeed. I like that neat patch cable management system, I need to look into it.
@kristopherleslie8343
@kristopherleslie8343 4 месяца назад
I use to use them but eventually after 10 years kinda put them to the side. It’s usually better to have shorter runs that don’t require things like that anymore.
@Jr2728
@Jr2728 4 месяца назад
More of this
@COR0NAD0
@COR0NAD0 4 месяца назад
Great videos, new subscriber! 😊
@CarlAlban
@CarlAlban 4 месяца назад
Good video Sir.
@myself-tp2my
@myself-tp2my 4 месяца назад
please do 1 patch 24 port, 1 48 port switch below that, then 1 patch 48 ports below and so on.. then you can use only 6 inch patch cords and no messing with cable managers and makes it ten times easier to troubleshoot. Connecting everything is easy but troubleshooting is really why we do these kinds of jobs. Have done hundreds of these and I was using cable management also before i discovered the way to do it with 6 inch cables.. 1 patch panel, 1 switch, 1 patch panel, 1 switch, etc
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 4 месяца назад
I made a video recently about that very topic, in this case the panels go between the three switches, it was impossible to replicate their set up with 6 inch. I would have loved to have saved some rack units by doing that.
@joze7548
@joze7548 4 месяца назад
Awesome rescue! Making a 24 cable run tomorrow and getting some inspiration from your videos. Lol. I know that price questions must pop up a lot, but how much did you charge? And how? By the hour or by the job? What about keystone jacks, are they charged individually or by drop (2 cables to one wall plate, 3 cables to one wall plate?). Thanks in advance!
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 4 месяца назад
Unless you are in my region it wouldn't be apples to apples. Prices here are absolutely wild. However, I line item everything, the wall plates, the jacks, the panels, the cable, the J-Hooks, the plywood, all the way down. For labor I roll pulling, testing, labelling, terminating into one line per wire run. It won't be any one thing that reduces the margin much, but if you try to account for most of it you have some wiggle room to let other stuff slide.
@darcanx
@darcanx 4 месяца назад
The schemes you save on your phone should also be uploaded in the cloud, just for extra caution
@bobzone09
@bobzone09 4 месяца назад
You kind of skipped over the super laborious part of moving the trunk bundles, but am I to understand you finagled the terminated patch panels through the ceiling space to move everything without having to reterminate?
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 4 месяца назад
That part got a bit involved and I had to put the camera down. That's exactly what we did, however, it was only possible because the cable highway passed over the new spot the client had picked out. Cables that ran in opposite directions were cut and re-run. And of course, everything had to be tested and checked for strain disconnecting the pins.
@bobzone09
@bobzone09 4 месяца назад
@@tciproductionsBit of a stroke of luck on that part then! I've seen some extremely poor cable pathing in my time that could immediately make squeezing a 19" patch panel through there impossible, especially those 2Us. Nice work. Really appreciate the vids, thanks!
@wscottfunk
@wscottfunk 4 месяца назад
Hey Derek, I know that I saw it in one of your videos but I can't find it again. What braided fish tape are you using and also what collapsible fish sticks are you using? I've learned quite a bit from your tutorials and really appreciate your time and effort. Thanks a lot!
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 4 месяца назад
This one is what I keep in the truck these days: www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/48-22-4167
@brightonideas
@brightonideas 4 месяца назад
Is there a general guideline on distance between the outlet power lines and the ethernet cables?
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 4 месяца назад
NEC code suggests 2 inches apart, however that is out of an abundance of caution. The jackets of the wires already give you enough distance to run them close to each other, but if you can get an extra inch apart it wouldn't hurt. In practice I have seen people zip tie the power and data together and if there was an effect I couldn't tell. Higher voltages and greater cable counts will vary of course.
@mason8714
@mason8714 4 месяца назад
only seen 47 seconds of the video so far but i want to say before i forget, i want that guy holding the green ladders job! how do i apply :) (joking around aside) that was a very nice job! well done team!
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 4 месяца назад
lol, that is an unpaid position :)
@Zedman3333
@Zedman3333 3 месяца назад
Hey great job, out of curosity what does something like this cost? ball park figure , between what and what?
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 3 месяца назад
Price will be mostly determined by time taken. I try to knock these down in one day, but I bring enough people that we can do it quickly. Once you have done a few like this you can learn the ropes and go faster with friends. So roughly 8hrs x 4 guys in our case. Labor in Hawaii is expensive, but if you have an idea what field techs cost in your area that might be a good way to estimate cost.
@gerardbong
@gerardbong 2 месяца назад
How do you do a rescue if the cables for the patch panel was cut too short to be mounted to the cabinet?
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 2 месяца назад
I should have a rescue coming up with this situation soon, for a small number of cables I use in-line splice connectors, and for a series of full panels, I use concentration blocks. Either way, you basically connect the short ends to a sort of connector, and then you run an extension to the new location, hiding the block or splices in the ceiling.
@doublekkinc
@doublekkinc 4 месяца назад
this was very well done, can you do a video about a DIY server rack? im doing this for a home, but looking for a diy solution, some of those cable mangers you use are not avalilable in my country, and if you do find them they are very expensive, hence i wana do a diy solution.... most of my colleague and friends homes are becoming increaseingly tech resourced, meaning, we have multiple DVR, switches, smarthome devices, POE cameras, NAS, etc, and all of this looks untidy and jumbled in a corner.... im looking for a diy way to make it much more appealing.
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 4 месяца назад
Would wire shelving work maybe? Without access to 19" racks and accessories the cable management would be tough, but I could see a wire rack, some plywood, and maybe finger duct if your hardware stores have that. I'll add it to the vid list.
@doublekkinc
@doublekkinc 4 месяца назад
@@tciproductions thanks, much appreciated.
@jacobmar2797
@jacobmar2797 4 месяца назад
This was a cool project. Thanks for sharing! How much does a job like this cost? How much inventory do you keep on hand in terms of patch cables, boxed cable, etc? How often do they go smoothly like this vs hairy issues that drag on?
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 4 месяца назад
I have moved many racks and the hairy issues will usually be a result of not doing a deep enough survey. With good foreknowledge of the space you can usually be ready and pre-do quite a lot so the day itself isn't too bad. If you get a real nasty surprise even with that, well....angry client and late hours.
@shaibannatha795
@shaibannatha795 4 месяца назад
What do you call those hooks mounted to the concrete under the ceiling that holds the stack of cables?
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 4 месяца назад
I think you are referring to J-Hooks like these? www.ipcstore.com/icc-iccmsjh944-stainless-steel-25pc-s-cable-clamp-icc-iccmsjh944
@shaibannatha795
@shaibannatha795 4 месяца назад
@@tciproductions thanks
@lordgandalf22
@lordgandalf22 4 месяца назад
Would have asked for more time if possible and do this on a weekend less people around. And I had the idea this ended up in a kitchen or break room that's such a bad location if used as kitchen or breakroom
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 4 месяца назад
If I work a weekend then it's 12 working days in a row without a break. I refuse to do it and I don't put my people through that either. I work a normal shift like anyone else, if they need to move this kind of thing they need to accept going offline. The location was chosen by the end users and their contractor, honestly there wasn't any good spot in their offices for this, so I couldn't really judge.
@digitalelectronswebsolutio6524
@digitalelectronswebsolutio6524 3 месяца назад
11:10 ✅
@grilnam9945
@grilnam9945 4 месяца назад
good lord are FAX’s still a thing?
@JJFlores197
@JJFlores197 4 месяца назад
In some industries, yes. I work in K12 IT and we still have people who need to send/receive fax. Granted, we've moved over to eFax but IMO it makes more sense to just use email...
@brandonmarr3395
@brandonmarr3395 4 месяца назад
Whats ups with that paloalto and that link??
@tciproductions
@tciproductions 4 месяца назад
Man, I don't know, I don't use that router brand in-house. I was really hoping a commenter would be able to explain it! Looks crazy.
4 месяца назад
possibly using a L3 interface to firewall the management interface in a strange way. Maybe related to remote support, very strange though.
@courtdoubleday2922
@courtdoubleday2922 2 месяца назад
P R O M O S M 😈
@Henry_Jones
@Henry_Jones 4 месяца назад
Typical switch rack. They all start out neat and become wire vomit over time.
@jfbeam
@jfbeam 4 месяца назад
And the "neat patch" doesn't make anything neat; it just hides the mess.
@EmptyZoo393
@EmptyZoo393 4 месяца назад
@@jfbeam He did divvy things out a bit so there's not nearly the amount of wire all over the place. Honestly, just moving the switches next to the patch panels with the cable organizers in between greatly reduced the total wire usage. There aren't even that many terminations, they were just nightmares because there was not plan. Looking at the before shots, the patch wiring going all over the front of the server was a major headache for any IT guy maintaining it. Now? Things are much more localized with a place and easier to chunk in your mind. If he'd had more time, shifting the UPSes around a bit might have been an option to keep the companies' materials better separated, but he did really well for a one day job.
@shephusted2714
@shephusted2714 4 месяца назад
why is this a tough situation - it is pretty standard - take pics and label everything directly - pics don't lie your notes do
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