Never Before Seen Technology! Pioneer DJ PLX-CRSS12 Review

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The Pioneer DJ PLX-CRSS12 is the latest instalment of turntables from Pioneer DJ. In this review, we dive into how the DVS and analogue systems allow DJs to mix using their laptop or with vinyl. The new Magvel clamp technology will quickly enable DJs to switch from playing real vinyl to controlling Serato DJ Pro or Rekordbox.
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@kapo6334 10 месяцев назад

love your channel man!

@djjoeykmusic 11 месяцев назад

Great Video! Awesome Job

@Shreyash_MJ 10 месяцев назад

Great too See You, Jimmy 🤩💯

@grierson2008 11 месяцев назад

some day they will finally figure out what a most of us want. A screen on the mixer for selecting a track which can directly play on the turntable. Should have been done 10 years ago. A DVS without the laptop.

@sumerlawrence 11 месяцев назад

So design it. Even if they did it people couldn't afford it because it's really expensive to do. Q Bert tried it and couldn't get into production. Most importantly what does all that have to do with this turntable?

@hiphopsuperman 11 месяцев назад

Numark did this in 2015 on the NS7III. The Rane 72 has a display also.

@harleybowers2335 10 месяцев назад

yh i have a ns7iii and i love the screens which lets you select the tracks and also display stacked waveforms on it

@ReleaseThaPressure 2 месяца назад

Exactly this. Take the laptop totally of the equation. A mixer to plug in usb sticks or hard drives, no gimmicky links to Beatport or shitcloud.

@djsubculture2786 11 месяцев назад

Turntablists are going to love these.

@Crossfader 11 месяцев назад

Facts

@Positive_Tea 11 месяцев назад

If they can afford them. $3k for two yikes. That's Pioneer for ya though.

@viderethevaccinatorfromhol7536 10 месяцев назад

Definitely not

@djsubculture2786 10 месяцев назад

@@Positive_Tea Cheaper than a pair of Technics 1210GRs.

@johnkiz9310 10 месяцев назад

@@djsubculture2786turntablists don't use those

@PAE47 10 месяцев назад

Is it more accurate wen using the magvel clamp instead of standard DVS mode, time code vinyl wen mixing , even tho they are both DVS control ,

@itsnudge 11 месяцев назад

INSANE

@djweezygh621 11 месяцев назад

Very nice ❤❤

@DjNeedL 11 месяцев назад

The magvel "phase" is great but when will we get a turntable with a CDJ screen ? Basically a laptopless setup. It's 2023 for god's sake!

@DJ_JC414 11 месяцев назад

You better off waiting for a standalone Mixer with a screen like a big screen on a Rane 72 that can just connect turntables to it

@coreyfreeman6226 10 месяцев назад

it already exists lol...it's called a CDJ + rekordbox. you use a usb drive with no laptop.

@johnkiz9310 10 месяцев назад

@@coreyfreeman6226he said "turntable"

@djwizard256 11 месяцев назад

This is son amazingly 👏

@EMBEEclassic 10 месяцев назад

Did they fix the tonearm bearing wobble issues all the Super OEM turntables have? There is a small play if you pull/push on the tonearm.

@djsubculture2786 10 месяцев назад

Probably not.

@lh4ltube 11 месяцев назад

Do the Start/Stop, Motor Off, 33, 45, Step Pitch, Application, Deck, Reset buttons are midi mappable ?

@alpham8754 2 месяца назад

No, only the pad buttons down below

@DanielleKingdjdinosaur 8 месяцев назад

I am head over heels in love with this deck. Technics wake the fck up

@PHAZE1971 10 месяцев назад

after not having turntables for 15 years, recently bought a pair of 1210MkII. I think the CRSS12 is amazing, but I can't see the point if you have a S7 (or similar) & use Phase, especially with the massive price difference too. But amazing product though.

@coreyfreeman6226 10 месяцев назад

These are exactly what Vynil DJs need. This is a game changer, the rest is noise and excuses. Works right out of the box no gimicks with phase or losing something or forgetting to charge something etc. I'd sell the 1210's and get this. This is the new standard. Only downside is the price but honestly with these, you don't need to upgrade to anything else ever.

@mikedubz5576 8 месяцев назад

As a phase User I love phase Its solid But The shape of it where it hangs around the area where i use to spin up or down the record for those long blends i always tend to bump on it! I like the shape pioneer chose to use because it Just make sence! Phase mwm Please come up with a New version of transmitors for those that agree with me and are annoyed from that horrendous shape you chose i mean why? Why does it need to look so trendy and odd? A simple circular shape a long the way of the 45 adaptor Will Just look Even better, neat and clean. Anyway. Ill see if i keep phase or Just go a different route. Pitty because phase is at 99% perfect.

@asmkawsar 11 месяцев назад

WoW 🖤🖤🖤

@junior_7y 11 месяцев назад

These are truly a game changer I mean it’s great all around but…damn that price Lool the phase cost around 450 bucks for BOTH your turntables. Maybe in the future I’ll pick these up in a few ish years 😂

@Crossfader 11 месяцев назад

This will be a popular opinion for sure

@djagentcue3240 11 месяцев назад

The pricing strategy at Pioneer is crazy

@matthewweller158 9 месяцев назад

Any idea if it works with traktor?

@reedy8585 10 месяцев назад

those are nice

@DjCharlieWashed 11 месяцев назад

Game changer

@Prod.beenie 11 месяцев назад

This product is super neat but still a few months too late for me. Phase is still going to dominate as there are soooo many Turntables standard in clubs but this would be great for a home studio!

@EddietheHouserocker 11 месяцев назад

Phase is like Beats headphones, trash product with great marketing! This turntable brings back the freedom of just using your deck without added gadgets that need to be connected, charged or depend on wireless signals!

@sheeshkoment8490 11 месяцев назад

lol because you got phase and suddenly this one came out 😂 this turntable is a game changer because the dvs mode plays directly to the rca which is for me it's more accurate than the HID mode thing.. and if you want you want to play real vinyl, it's a click of a button.. no need to change rca's etc.

@beatzandwheels 10 месяцев назад

I think a lot of ppl agree with you. This does not really make sense for a lot of people since rane 12s and phase have taken a huge chunk of ppl who would be the target audience for this. Also something to keep in mind: Most of the ppl wanting to buy this shiny thing either already own phase and turntables or turntables and a pair of rane 12s AND a standard turntable setup. Since this is going to cost you both your testicles and Im sure its standard pioneer quality (the plx 1000 was quite shit in that regard, also looked very shiny, but when you opened it up you could tell that it was quite shite compared to technics....).

@PHAZE1971 10 месяцев назад

@@sheeshkoment8490 The Pioneer S7 mixer (and others), that's in the video, have the option to switch from DVS to vinyl, as Jamie shows. I use 1210's with an S7 and don't need to cable swap.

@apolonioiiibalboa5003 10 месяцев назад

stand alone turntable no more laptop sd card only .

@djcontroversial6563 11 месяцев назад

will this unlock dvs? id like to add them to my rev7 but not if I have to pay for dvs kit

@DJAntenna 11 месяцев назад

Does it have a revese feature? Is there any chance these ca be used with the sync function?

@TheSpaceHead 11 месяцев назад

Thats a really great point. For the price they should absolutely have reverse on there.

@DJAntenna 11 месяцев назад

Usually when i play in wireless mode turntables tend to go out of sync or not even sync. And the reverse is more of a Reloop feature I came to use and enjoy. I see myself buying these, for my home studio, but I doubt Romanian Clubs and festival will have/could afford these. Cheers to this new evolutionary step of the classic turntable.

@djcapd 10 месяцев назад

Thats why I'll stick with Reloop 8000mk2s

@DJAntenna 10 месяцев назад

@@djcapd even with phase the reloop don’t stay in sync - follow eachother. This is one handicap turntables have in comparison to controllers and CDJ

@johnkiz9310 10 месяцев назад

@@djcapdyou're absolutely correct. Not to mention the 8000 mk2s have way more features than than reverse that this POS doesn't have.

@TheDjelements 10 месяцев назад

Is there sync?

@ROC_PLY 10 месяцев назад

3:05 Does this turntable eliminate the need for Serato Timecode vinyl?

@jasonflorens3351 10 месяцев назад

Yes

@kbcmediacouk 11 месяцев назад

I was sold… until the price!

@Crossfader 11 месяцев назад

It's steep! 🤣

@keozzsounds 11 месяцев назад

So was i, guess i stay a little longer on my technics till these come a bit cheaper. Love the technology and effort though 😁

@bigdaz7272 11 месяцев назад

With the usual addition of "the Pioneer Tax" I was expecting about $900 a pop. They smokin some real crazy shizzle over there asking $1400 LOL Rane just drop the mkIII that work with Rekordbox already.

@ORIGINALDJZERO 6 месяцев назад

They'll go down. Watch

@iangillon6981 6 месяцев назад

Just for Warped Records. I would buy it. :) As my 3rd Deck. 12`10`s mk2s My 2. :)

@trancevoyagesessions Месяц назад

If they are placed in standard configuration. Will the phono lead still reach the mixer? Is there a normal configuration model? If not why pioneer whyyy why god whyyyy?

@crazycards6515 11 месяцев назад

Yeah, yeah

@Fran-or3lt 11 месяцев назад

Probably still made in the hanpin factory so expect Loose tonearm bearings, pitch calibration issues and cheap componants from other turntables throughout. Reloop RP8000mk3 will be better and wont come with the Pioneer tax.

@Fran-or3lt 11 месяцев назад

Also, in what way is this similar to Phase? Phase uses a signal from the unit to a receiver. This is purely based on the turn of the spindle and plater, therefore the DVS signal will fluctuate like a MOFO just like all turntables. Rekordbox does not have anti drift like Serato. For that kind of money, hell no.

@UnrulyDemz 11 месяцев назад

They need to make a CDJ and DJM S11 style controller now...! ;))

@SPARO_1984 10 месяцев назад

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@Ziggy_v2 11 месяцев назад

I like the technology- but the $3k price tag for a pair is steep

@chris_noswe 11 месяцев назад

“… For the price of _two_ Technics” What are you referring to here? Used Technics 1200 surely?

@tylaw4723 11 месяцев назад

$1400 is a fair price, considering that the alternative - reloop 8000 + phase comes in at about $1250.

@djagentcue3240 11 месяцев назад

3 decks 😂😂😂

@UONeal 10 месяцев назад

I agree...a new MK7 is 11-1200 and then you add phase and you're looking at 27-2800 easy

@johnkiz9310 10 месяцев назад

No the hell it doesn't. 2 8000 mk2s will run you about 1,600 and phase is an extra 350 or so. 2 of these pieces of shit will cost $2,800. It's simple math homeboy. Not to mention the RP 8000 mk2 smash this thing.

@UONeal 10 месяцев назад

@@johnkiz9310 what part of the 8000's is "smashing" the pioneers???

@johnkiz9310 10 месяцев назад

@@UONeal hmmmmm..... Better break and torque adjustments. More que pads and BIGGER que pads. Instead of the bs pitch play on this, the Reloops have platter play and can also be controlled by a midi keyboard. A reverse button. I can also Chang users and set STEMS to the pads. There's also a dial to scroll through DVS to pick your track....... Is that enough for you?

@TheRds797 11 месяцев назад

Can it be used without the center clamp?

@Crossfader 11 месяцев назад

For physical vinyl yes

@johnkiz9310 10 месяцев назад

I can't believe this is a real question

@Not_cuteluvblox_tip 6 месяцев назад

good dvs users plx crss 12 nicee

@slashwhatever 11 месяцев назад

Wait, why did they put the screen and buttons UNDER the tone arm?!

@machiventa858 11 месяцев назад

Yup he even hits the tonearm trying to access the buttons

@6Rhyme 11 месяцев назад

Where else see you Space to set it 🙂

@johnkiz9310 10 месяцев назад

@@6Rhymeanywhere but under the damn tonearm maybe. The Reloops didn't put it under the tonearm so just maybe it's possible 🤷🏼‍♂️

@6Rhyme 10 месяцев назад

@@johnkiz9310 pioneer does more things fault like the overhang and vta for cardrigdes idont know of she listen to her costumers

@johnkiz9310 9 месяцев назад

@@6Rhyme I'm confused. So is it possible or not? You totally took a turn on that

@29djandy 11 месяцев назад

Please just make a controller version without the tone arm please

@djstevieo 11 месяцев назад

Almost perfect. But how you gonna insult us by putting a 1973 Casio display in it in 2023 ? Might as well not put one in. With that said I’m buying

@keozzsounds 11 месяцев назад

Maybe to add to the classic vinyl feel on them? 😅

@elyimi3887 11 месяцев назад

this is fucking crazy!!!!!

@dj8ball1993nms 11 месяцев назад

Ok I'm not happy with the tone play of the Rane Twelves. This has def got my attention.

@philbert7918 11 месяцев назад

I just want an XZ mk 2

@mikedubz5576 8 месяцев назад

So we could not use it with traktor

@beatzandwheels 10 месяцев назад

This would be dope for clubs... BUT: I assume that a very high percentage of buyers will be bedroom DJs who have the money and want to flex their setup on social media. These are dope.... but Pioneer Tax is here once again.

@CatDaddyProducer 10 месяцев назад

This is sic

@user-nl5gp1lg9h 4 месяца назад

Андрей всё таки поделился разработкой

@TheSpaceHead 11 месяцев назад

Why would anybody that is a dj already get this when they can just get the phase system? Maybe if your starting from scratch and have a whole lot of money to blow, then you sell them in 6 months because you can't figure out how to use them. 😅

@Ninazzz792 11 месяцев назад

Finally DJs actually do somenthing;) yey

@zukispur5493 10 месяцев назад

Anyone wanna buy a audio technica AT LP 1240?

@alpham8754 2 месяца назад

I'm having the same setup here. But I'm absolutely disappointed: The turntable has the smooth running of a 270 EUR Audio Technica one, so definitively not worth the price. Also, you can't use the middle spindle, the tempo fader doesn't have any feedback at 0 % adjustment like the Technics. So, in conclusion you can have the same and better setup from Reloop by at least the half of the price...

@crezrox 11 месяцев назад

If only they could just add a usb input and get rid of the laptop once and for all!

@meganoid_9001 10 месяцев назад

Hello, you reported that Pioneer said this turntable has technically improved over plx 1000. However, I cannot see the point as long as the underlying engine is the USUAL Hanpin! For instance, let's take a look at WOW & Flutter: Plx 1000 was initially declared to exhibit a figure of 0.1%, later amended to 0.01%, while Pioneer DJ PLX-CRSS12 is claimed to display 0.15%. Hence, by just looking at the announced figures, the new CRSS12 performs WORSE THAT the old PLX1000. Not to mention that SL 1200 spécifications indicate 0.025%. What can you say about that? FYI, my old SL 1200 MK2 scores 0.3%, while my new Plx 1000 shows 0.6% on average.

@mixlexic 10 месяцев назад

Whilst I love the look of this, my reloop 7000s (2nd hand pair for £400), dicers and phase do the same thing and and they cost under £800

@NikoWax 9 месяцев назад

Never seen technology? At least 3-4 companies have done it before on production and several others just as projects...

@estupedude21 8 месяцев назад

Hmm..

@DjZakMixOfficial 10 месяцев назад

Hi everyone I lost my cdj, it is broken. if you can help me dear brother and find me a cdj so that I can continue to mix; I will be very grateful to you.

@johnkiz9310 10 месяцев назад

The clamp is the only thing special about these. Not worth the price. Reloop RP 8000 mk2 is far superior for way less money.

@johnkiz9310 7 месяцев назад

I don't understand the hype surrounding these decks. They're $1,400 a piece and are basically a watered down version of the Reloop RP 8000 MK2 which could be had on sale at the moment for $650. Yeah, the clamp is cool, but who cares if you're not using Serato or Rekordbox? A pair of RP 8000 mk2s and PHASE will run you around $1,700 while a pair of these go for 2,800 with less features and PHASE is still needed if not on Serato or Rekordbox 😂

@UONeal 2 месяца назад

I know I'm a little late here... But how are these watered down if they do stuff the 8000's can't... The only thing the reloop has is built in pads that control toneplay...I love my reloops but these really are a game changer and if you're not using Serato or Rekordbox then I'm assuming most you're not even looking at these

@johnkiz9310 Месяц назад

@@UONeal do you even have 8000 mk2s? Not the first generation, the mk2s. If you do how is this a question? The only thing this has over 8000 mk2s is the clamp. Which by the way, only work well with Serato and Rekordbox. That's THE only thing it has! The 8000 MK2s have midi control platter, they have EIGHT pads and way bigger that you can also use for STEMS, more customizable break options, Pioneer doesn't have torque adjustments either, reverse, multiple outputs, different user settings. I could name more but they're not a big deal. Add that to the fact they cost double the price, you would be a fool to buy these. Get 2 8000 MK2s with PHASE and save the extra $800

@UONeal Месяц назад

@@johnkiz9310 I don't need the 8000's to know that they don't have time code built in... There's nothing the 8000's have that my S11 doesn't except the platter play... And they don't just work with Serato and Rekordbox... They work with ANYTHING that will use the Serato and Rekordbox time code like VDJ and Djay pro which I use with the Crss12's with all the time... Phase does not work very well with DJay... Too much cue drift... The same can be said with Serato and phase but with the Crss12's I've experienced NO cue drift. You should try the Crss12's bc I can promise you if you like playing on turntables you'd really enjoy using them

@ACCOUNTANTB 11 месяцев назад

theres nothing " new" - ts copy of Phase essencial !! - same hardware but built in the turntable !!!

@cdvinyl122 11 месяцев назад

Too many redundant features. Basically paying to upgrade current devices

@cruncherx86 7 месяцев назад

What are saying about the psu!? 😂 Stop repeating marketing blurb!

@Rampacito 10 месяцев назад

Gemini 😂

@deebee388 10 месяцев назад

Lol 3k for turns gfys

@spectralknights2 11 месяцев назад

No need to buy phase

@Alpha-ro8sc 11 месяцев назад

Nice for ~$500...$1300 ? Pass, hard pass.

@hoozn 10 месяцев назад

Lol lets be honest: this is just an overpriced dvs controller with added scratch functionality and onboard fx that are already supplied by your mixer/software combo. No one in their right mind would use this for playing real vinyl. I mean, come ooon, even cdjs support usb sticks and sd cards so you dont have to go through the laborious task of putting a disc into a slot... Yet here, youre supposed to put a clamp on and off after every. single. record. like… srsly? and adjust the feel of your virtual slipmat, too?

@zukispur5493 10 месяцев назад

Why wouldn't anyone use this turner to play vinyl?

@hoozn 10 месяцев назад

@@zukispur5493 Mostly because of the clamp/spindle combo, which already annoys me (vinyl only) when I just think of it. And because of unnecessary extras, that can cause unwanted errors when powermixing (e.g. digital/analogue switch right between pitch and headshell, the resting place for the clamp right next to the tonearm). When mixing vinyl, the cleaner the setup the better, because you have way more room to manipulate the record/tonearm/platter without having care about features you dont need just to avoid unwanted errors. This is exactly why the 1200s are still the gold standard for vinyl djs.