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In version 4.3 we are getting 2 new artifact sets, Nighttime Whispers in the Echoing Woods and Song of Days Past. In this video I will explain what both sets do, and compare them to existing sets in the game. I'll compare Nighttime Whispers in the Echoing Woods (new geo set) on geo damage dealers, and compare Song of Days Past (new healing set) with other healing and supportive sets.
*There was a bit of confusion regarding who Song of Days Past buff applies to, (It's to the active character only) Since then I have removed that section of the video but the set is still bad.
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00:00 Introduction
00:22 Nighttime Whispers in the Echoing Woods
03:54 Song of Days Past
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@Blackoutdmc
@Blackoutdmc 7 месяцев назад
You misunderstood the healing set. The damage bonus only applies to the active on-field character, and you have an entire 6 seconds from your first instance of healing to trigger before the buff actually activates. This means 2 things: 1. This buff at the bare MINIMUM has a 6 second cooldown. 2. More than likely, only your active character is axtually going to receive the buff in question. (Which is good) However, you were not wrong about the set still being dissapointing. It simply doesnt deal good enough damage to justify its existence. Assuming your healer hits that 15,000 health restore limit, your active carry gets 8% of that as damage, five times. 15,000 x .08 = 1,200 damage per instance 1,200 x 5 = 6,000 total damage Going back to that cooldown time of 6 seconds (realistically it WILL be longer because of various factors), this artfact set at most has the potential to net you about 1000 extra damage per second. Of course, this damage at the very least is added to your on field carry, thefore can be multiplied by crit, elemental damage bonus, and multiplicitive reactions. But again, only for 5 hits. Now compare that to Ocean Hued Clam, which has 3.5 seconds of downtime, but can produce up to 27,000 damage (more/less depending on enemies physical resistance). Ocean Hued Clam is netting you about 8k damage per second (which is lowered to 5k~ dps against physically resistant enemies). In terms of damage, Ocean Hued clam has this set beat by leaps and bounds, with very little downtime, and benifits units with powerful, persistent healing. In order for this new set to compete, one of these things needs to happen: 1. Raise, or outright remove the healing cap of 15,000. (Healers only heal so much as is) 2. Increase the damage increase ratio from 8% 3. Give 5 trigger quota's to ALL party members, rather than just the on-field carry. 4. Keep its current attributes, but increase the number of trigger quota's, by like double.
@San-cb9mj
@San-cb9mj 7 месяцев назад
wow, such a good comment, and yeah the new set is garbo, im sad its stuck with the geo one, cuz I want it for my Ningguang 😥
@Livtha
@Livtha 7 месяцев назад
So, definiely not worth it to use this set over a vv set for an anemo healer? Edit: Nevermind hadn't finished the video yet
@KleberDKurosaki
@KleberDKurosaki 7 месяцев назад
Sounds like that dmg increase works like Shenhe buff
@s-zs7nn
@s-zs7nn 7 месяцев назад
@@San-cb9mj if ure playing ning with furina then marechausse hunter is her bis as far as I understand so u can avoid it. Hopefully chiori is the geo healer we need copium.
@San-cb9mj
@San-cb9mj 7 месяцев назад
@@s-zs7nn but, its kind akward to fit her into a double geo team, but i will try sometime im having way too much fun using her in my Dehya team hitting insane burst hits to care about my other teams atm🤓
@Lumii_15
@Lumii_15 7 месяцев назад
Nighttime Whispers in the Echoing Woods sounds like a really good artifact set for Navia... gosh, all of these Fontaine characters are so cool, I just want to pull for them all
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Yeah they're all looking too good. With Arlecchino and Clorinde coming, it doesn't look like we'll be taking a break anytime soon.
@javelinmaster2
@javelinmaster2 7 месяцев назад
​@MistsplitterReforged Not to forget about Cloud mommy I MEAN RETAINER!
@RealLordVoldemort
@RealLordVoldemort 7 месяцев назад
​@@javelinmaster2from what I heard she is a plunge attack / plunge support and can fly??
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Yeah cloud retainer also. I'm not too sure what they mean by plunge attack but it looks to be interesting hopefully we can see what it means next patch.
@javelinmaster2
@javelinmaster2 7 месяцев назад
@@MistsplitterReforged well the plunge attack is the normal attack you do in mid air. last time I checked, Xiao (and Kazoo?) really like to plunge on their enemies.
@fl00fydragon
@fl00fydragon 7 месяцев назад
Hoyo: "let's make a new artifact set/ signature weapon for a geo character" Noelle: "my power is ever growing "
@kanlrhtm7856
@kanlrhtm7856 7 месяцев назад
I dont think this surpasses Husk set for noelle
@fancymustache3793
@fancymustache3793 7 месяцев назад
​@@kanlrhtm7856it only falls behind if your c6 but ig that just shows how potent her c6 is and not the set itself
@zekkekeipa6521
@zekkekeipa6521 7 месяцев назад
​@@fancymustache3793i feel like even Gradiator's set would be better in this situation, because it is a lot more consistent, you dont have to rely on paper mache shields and long skill cooldown.
@fancymustache3793
@fancymustache3793 7 месяцев назад
@@zekkekeipa6521 no it only requires you to obtain a crystal shield during the buff the shield doesnt need to last
@zekkekeipa6521
@zekkekeipa6521 7 месяцев назад
@@fancymustache3793 unless its already changed, but set shown in the video specify that additional 30% bonus effect last basically until you have crystal shield. Sure, you get 20% after you use skill, tho.
@vinny8589
@vinny8589 7 месяцев назад
Ningguang users should be very happy with this set too since she's also a geo attacker.
@kpkazan
@kpkazan 7 месяцев назад
Main issue with ning is her base attack
@ceyx1201
@ceyx1201 7 месяцев назад
​@@kpkazanThat's every 4 star dps
@cunnyman
@cunnyman 7 месяцев назад
@@ceyx1201 XL OPPA does not care cuz Bennett is her slave, oh Fischl too… and the sub dps hyperbloom characters like Kuki
@lnsflare1
@lnsflare1 3 месяца назад
​@@kpkazanOn the other hand, she can practically spam her Burst.
@leongteng5
@leongteng5 7 месяцев назад
Knowing from experience that we always get atk% or hp% pieces for husk, you know artifact domains are rigged. If you're farming for nighttime whispers, you'll DEFINITELY be getting perfect pieces for Noelle before getting a passable set for Navia
@oldkingcoal4376
@oldkingcoal4376 7 месяцев назад
It's not rigged, the artifact system itself is the problem with its multiple layers of RNG
@ziyuan1989
@ziyuan1989 7 месяцев назад
Me with C6 Noelle and waiting to pull for Navia:
@subscriber101able
@subscriber101able 7 месяцев назад
I just wish they'd get rid of the flat atk/de and I'd stop complaining.
@DDemiGodd
@DDemiGodd 7 месяцев назад
Correction the Healing set specifically says "When your active party member hits an opponent" So while it's true any party member can use it it's only the one that was on field when the set activates so your off field supports cannot steal stacks despite what the bad wording from that one leaker stated unless they come on field.
@ozoahameg3582
@ozoahameg3582 7 месяцев назад
yea when i saw the effects i find it neat, then "active party member" is there to break my bubble man clam is better than this for healers
@zippo718
@zippo718 7 месяцев назад
@@ozoahameg3582This makes the set better because you control who gets the damage buff. On most teams with a carry this set should be superior to clam (based on how the carry deals damage). If you want to just proc a set amount of damage than clam is better because that's what it was designed for. We dont need another clam set, this is a healer set to make non-anemo healers more useful in hypercarry teams.
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Ah that's why I was convinced it was between all party members, thank your for the feedback, I removed that part of the video.
@flamezforthegamez1056
@flamezforthegamez1056 7 месяцев назад
​@@ozoahameg3582Clam isn't better since it's more favored for sustain healers while there are others that heal in bursts before going on a downtime. So it could be good for Yaoyao, Dori, Barbara, and maybe even Baizhu, especially since deepwood isn't really that effective for aggravate based teams.
@TnD_BigJax
@TnD_BigJax 7 месяцев назад
Nighttime Whispers sounds like a great set for Ningguang shockrock/wet rock teams since the coordinated elemental attacks will crystallize into shields which give the max 50% buff This is a big buff for Ningguang and Geo Traveler
@San-cb9mj
@San-cb9mj 7 месяцев назад
im going to grab it asap, its already pretty normal for my Ning to have permanent uptime with crystalizes, so... (ofc they break immediatly but they get replaced real quick)
@zeromailss
@zeromailss 7 месяцев назад
yes but only if you dont have Furina and Hunter set already and IMO not worth it but that's just me. Id rather use 2piece set if I use Furina elsewhere
@RGA301092
@RGA301092 7 месяцев назад
Song of Days Past could be Sigewinne artifact set when she releases
@Aldz__
@Aldz__ 7 месяцев назад
5:45 this portion of the explanation alone makes you deserving for 1000x more subscribers. When I heard the last part when you're happy for reaching 1000 subscribers, I was quite shocked because you deserve a lot more subscribers. I'll be looking forward for thorough pros and cons, analyses and leaks. 8 days later, you almost have 1.5k subs, so congrats to that and cheers to more 🥳🍻This video is really great, so you just earned a sub! 😊😁
@Lumii_15
@Lumii_15 7 месяцев назад
im in class rn but this is definitely worth watching🙏
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
😂 I hope it's a good watch!
@ItsJustbug
@ItsJustbug 7 месяцев назад
the second set probably still wont outperform clam or viri, but its also tailor made for the upcoming cloud retainer. Since hoyo is making a trend of sets that're tailor made for specific units, we can expect this is the same case. Edit: I forgot about our favorite lil melusine, Sigewinne. Either way; its tailor made for one of those two, if not both!
@Hmm_okk_lol
@Hmm_okk_lol 7 месяцев назад
I'm gonna farm Navia's set.. I really like her design, and totally gonna play her with Furina, Bennett and Mona, as that's what I think of her team based on Atk buffs and elemental damage bonus along with getting shards off field.
@KnightOfZero89
@KnightOfZero89 7 месяцев назад
I had such hopes for the healing set. My favorite team currently is hyper Neuvillette with Furina, Kazuha and Baizhu but the deepwoods set Baizhu has been using is totally useless in this team, so I was hoping this would be a great alternative. In my head the rotation would be Furina EQ, Baizhu EQ, Kazuha EQ, Neuvillette EQ, then the buff will activate during Neuvillette's 1st CA, and the 2nd batch of stacks would active during the 3rd CA, so 10 buffed CA hits out of 24. Even if can squish in a 4th CA everyone else's buffs will be expired by the time the set activates for a 3rd time. But I might be missing something. Is is worth farming this set for those hits, or should I just go clam? Not sure which one would result in more total DMG.
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Honestly just go clam, not really worth it going for an inconstant buff over consistent clam damage.
@Sarah_Redfox
@Sarah_Redfox 7 месяцев назад
@@MistsplitterReforged i have the same problem but i cant use clam because it flashbangs the screen with a white effect and it hurts my eyes and gives me a headache every time 😭😭😭 i wish i could change the settings to disable just that specific visual effect, i swear it is the ONLY visual effect in the game that bothers me Im currently using noblesse on my baizhu, i really wish that the new set was actually good :(
@marcomeinhof5393
@marcomeinhof5393 7 месяцев назад
@@Sarah_Redfox me too, the only option is to play on low sfx and that makes some colors weird
@user-ot2xl3fh2m
@user-ot2xl3fh2m 7 месяцев назад
I use the same team but with a different rotation (Although i have C1 on both Neuv and Furi) Try this rotation: Neuv E - Furina E - Kazuha E + Plunge Atk - Furi Q - Baizhu E + Q - Neuvi First Charged Atk - Neuv Q - Kazuha E + Plunge Atk - Neuv 2nd and 3rd Charged Atk. :) I also use 2 pc EOSF + 2 pc Clam + Proto Amber R4 on my Baizhu (51k HP and 226 ER)
@mayraalejandragonzalezeraz5886
@mayraalejandragonzalezeraz5886 7 месяцев назад
They should actually upgrade the healing set, with a good healer with a great healing set each Furina team will became better.
@jackwedebrand5377
@jackwedebrand5377 7 месяцев назад
Your voice is amazing 🥹, you sound like those commentators they invite to do spotlight in LoL, its clear and interesting! Great work
@noctisarcanus7894
@noctisarcanus7894 7 месяцев назад
The second set sounds good for Baizhu in a Neuv - Furina - Kazuha team. He currently doesn't have a good set for this team so now I'm currently running 2VG + 2EoSF. It sounds like a nice set since Furina's pets also hit hard so she and Neuv can benefit from the dmg boost... but I don't feel is worth farming, the other set is garbage :/
@med2006v
@med2006v 7 месяцев назад
great video!!
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Thank you, glad you liked it!
@sinosikell
@sinosikell 7 месяцев назад
I want to believe that there will be a future character who will be able to fully utilize the healing artifact set.
@sentryion3106
@sentryion3106 7 месяцев назад
Yes, most likely cloud retainer which should come during 4.4
@sinosikell
@sinosikell 7 месяцев назад
@@sentryion3106 darn. Cloud retainer when I'd be using all wishes for Raiden.
@sentryion3106
@sentryion3106 7 месяцев назад
@@sinosikell there are some rumors that cloud retainer is a plunge support, so it’s an easy choice. Then again this rumor is not from a super reliable source so take it with a grain of salt
@sinosikell
@sinosikell 7 месяцев назад
@sentryion3106 that means that there's gonna be another plunge character after her. Tho again, the story isn't over so we still have more characters coming in.
@iamurkizda
@iamurkizda 7 месяцев назад
Nighttime Whispers in the Echoing Woods is made for Navia,but i feel like Ninguanng would actually be really good(i was typing before u alr said it so i didnt know)
@iamurkizda
@iamurkizda 7 месяцев назад
Also i found the best ninnguang team: Ninnguang Furina(constant hydro for crystalize) Jean(best overcapping team wide healer) And zhongli/bennet(shield/atk buff) This will be amazing in 4.3 with the new sets
@GoldfishOfDoom
@GoldfishOfDoom 7 месяцев назад
CONGRATS ON 1K!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) 💗💗❤❤💕💕🥳🥳
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Thank you! :D Its your turn now.
@GoldfishOfDoom
@GoldfishOfDoom 7 месяцев назад
@@MistsplitterReforged I'm gonna take some time I think... my Algorithm is still recovering... that's why you'll see 2 digit views on my videos... idk why this keeps happening in between... All I did was only not upload for 5 days... that's all.. and messed up all my views... otherwise I would have already been there at 1K... anyways, tysm for your wishes!!! :)❤
@owlofficial765
@owlofficial765 7 месяцев назад
Does the buff the healer set gives is multiplicative to total damage or just an added one. Cuz if its additive a 15k max total of heal is equal to estimated of around 800+ flat damage per hit which is a disappointment
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
It's added to base DMG, so it's multiplicative.
@youssefhamdy6008
@youssefhamdy6008 7 месяцев назад
@MistsplitterReforged Do you think the healing set can work for Charlotte in a Eula team? I feel like the buff works well with her.
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
For Eula specifically if you can time the buff to start just before Eula's burst hits it could work. But that's not to say it better than +20% ATK for tenacity or noblesse. This set is better for characters with low damage multipliers, since it gets added to the base damage. For Eula, her burst has a really high scaling (674%) so the buff you get from Song of Days Past is lower than +20% ATK.
@doublekc
@doublekc 7 месяцев назад
I think the new healing set is made for future healer that has short heal intervals, which doesnt work for most healers that ocean hue clam is already the best set for them.
@Scykyc
@Scykyc 7 месяцев назад
Qiqi, Barbara, Charlotte?
@doublekc
@doublekc 7 месяцев назад
​@@Scykyc Charlotte isnt really an interval healer until c6, both qiqi and barbara need to be on-field to do decent healing (i'd argue clam set is better for them). The new set is probably designed with cloud retainer's kits in mind.
@abbyy6361
@abbyy6361 7 месяцев назад
even with short intervals, the effects are just so underwhelming :( It could only trigger 5 times? all it takes is for Ayaka to do 1 CA and 2 NAs before it runs out of buff and you have to wait for your next rotation. Kokomi's jelly can reach this set's 15k cap with ease, but I doubt that anyone will use it on her (it will only take 4 seconds for a decent-built Koko to reach the cap). So I don't think shorter heal intervals will fix this set since the only major problem this set has is the abysmal trigger quota. Double the trigger quota to 10 and this set might actually be decent. But even with that, this set will still have another HUGE drawback. This set will make your rotations clunky and stiff since you need to time your first healing tick to align with your team.
@-jno3164
@-jno3164 7 месяцев назад
​@@doublekc Qiqi doesn't need to be on-field to heal well, her off-field healing is actually the highest sustained single target healing in the whole game with an average of 8k-10k per 1-2 sec, and 100% uptime. She can definitely max out the buff even with ER build and Fav sword. (My Qiqi heals 8k with Favonius, 200% ER, and 60% crit rate, ~10k with Skyward blade).
@aethernity8270
@aethernity8270 6 месяцев назад
What set u use on qiqi ​@@-jno3164
@liveactionme6607
@liveactionme6607 7 месяцев назад
I think this will be one of the only artifact sets that matches the charcter it was made for in design
@fabioavaro7947
@fabioavaro7947 7 месяцев назад
There are others, like ocean hued clam (kokomi) and emblem of severed fate (raiden), tenacity of the millelith (zhongli)
@peytonsharp6159
@peytonsharp6159 7 месяцев назад
@@fabioavaro7947 Also heart of depth (Childe), pale flame (Eula), (idk exactly which came out first but they do match visually), Deepwood memories (Nahida), and i would even argue vermillion hereafter (Xiao). i mean look at the circlet- it's literally a yaksha's mask. ...and if you read the lore of the set it's apparent the set is related to Bosacious, which we all know the story of from Perilous Trail. So, Xiao's essentially wearing his yaksha friend's artifact pieces🙃
@nathansayles9685
@nathansayles9685 7 месяцев назад
@@peytonsharp6159First that comes to mind for me is Shiminewas for Yoimiya, has the same colour scheme
@peytonsharp6159
@peytonsharp6159 7 месяцев назад
@@nathansayles9685 Actually, I think Shimenawas was originally meant for Yae Miko. before they made her an E spammer, she was meant to be a NA on-field DPS. I read that somewhere.🤔
@nathansayles9685
@nathansayles9685 7 месяцев назад
@@peytonsharp6159 If Yae Miko was gonna be an on field DPS, that would actually be so cool. Glad they changed though because her burst is so cool
@mkazharies2121
@mkazharies2121 7 месяцев назад
i kinda prefer new SDP healing artifact than clam. true, clam can deal damage, but it was physical damage was bad enough and new fontaine enemies were mostly meka's.
@jongale9174
@jongale9174 7 месяцев назад
i do wonda how the artifact set Song Of Days Past would work with a c6 furina? considering she would heal huge numbers escically if you use her ousia form healing for almost 18 seconds with big numbers (having around 83400 hp would heal 15k hp)?
@KatonDaddy
@KatonDaddy 7 месяцев назад
fantastic, at least i now know that i don't need to farm the new sets AT ALL
@zeromailss
@zeromailss 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video dude, I'm skipping this set, I'm farming Hunter set I already skip Husk for Emblem, not gonna spend any resin for the new set and focus on Hunter cuz it is way more flexible and resin efficient
@TwilightMidna44
@TwilightMidna44 7 месяцев назад
I wonder if Song of Days Past will be good for Cloud Retainer? Not sure if she's still rumored to be a healer or just plunge support tho
@ejnoveda8288
@ejnoveda8288 7 месяцев назад
The healing set will probably good in Ayaka's Team because you use Kokomi and when she heals the countdown will start and after 6s the buff will applied to active character's attack up to 5 times.. you bit misunderstood it but yea I agree this set is not really that game changing given that it is limited for 5 attacks only
@RestInFlames
@RestInFlames 7 месяцев назад
I’m not too sure it looks like this is for healers who use there burst to do big heals and swap off Kokomi’s burst heals the entire party yes but she has to normal attack which would use up the stacks right ? And just using her skill and swapping to another character won’t be able to get to the 15,000 health to heal for max stacks. (This is just from what I understand I obviously can be wrong just thought I’d give my input)
@ejnoveda8288
@ejnoveda8288 7 месяцев назад
@@RestInFlames well if you build kokomi enough she's easily reach that 15k heals.. my kokomi heals 6k per tick so by the end you switch to ayaka she'll receive that max heals.
@RestInFlames
@RestInFlames 7 месяцев назад
@@ejnoveda8288 Yeah I agree I know she’s an awesome healer. I misunderstood how the set works I thought it started when you heal your characters I didn’t pay attention to the switching part my bad
@chrisunknown8556
@chrisunknown8556 7 месяцев назад
Noelle hypercarry with itto weapon and husk set + gorou/yunjin and furina hits 100k and i just started farmeing mara set for her now i gotta do this too 😭
@k-disboher1105
@k-disboher1105 7 месяцев назад
The healing set sounds like a fun alternative set for DPS Jean/NA spam Jean(for her passive heals); in most situations, VV is almost always gonna be a better option, but if you're using her in like a mono-anemo team with Xiao or Wanderer it could be a fun option (though noblesse will still probably be better)
@JeSt4m
@JeSt4m 7 месяцев назад
SoDP sounds like great upgrade from HoOD for my Qiqi Echoing Woods will be BiS for Ningguang which've been neglected for so long due to how recent Geo set and support seems to favor DEF... but in the same vein it'll be useless for the likes of Noelle or Itto.
@arronmc7713
@arronmc7713 7 месяцев назад
Sooo… would nighttime whisper be good for geo traveller DPS then?
@spiderninja_1
@spiderninja_1 7 месяцев назад
Right now, I’m looking to give this set to Baizhu, Mika, and Charlotte. On teams where I use Baizhu, I usually run him with another Dendro unit, and most likely, that unit also has Deepwood. Given his healing has good numbers and uptime, I think it would be better that he has that set instead. Mika has pretty good uptime on his burst and healing, and I’ll experiment to see if the numbers are better than Noblesse. Charlotte, I’m still iffy on because the healing doesn’t last long enough for multiple waves, but not every team uses ATK, so it’ll be a more flexible option than Noblesse.
@user-xq6vs9df4r
@user-xq6vs9df4r 7 месяцев назад
next year it would be an essay of how 4 piece artifact work
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Always healing sets for some reason, it's ridiculous how much there is in contrast to another set like Marechaussee Hunter.
@reiner4369
@reiner4369 7 месяцев назад
I was waiting to farm the healing set for charlotte for my team with furina/kazuha/neuvillette but it doesn't sound that good, is it still recommended instead of nobility or mililith?
@ciste1785
@ciste1785 7 месяцев назад
i can’t know for sure what calculations you did to reach the sets’ comparison’s damage percentages, but, with the assumption of using furina in the noelle team, although i didn’t do the math i think husk’s defense bonus becomes more valuable enough to outshine the new set. i’m sure you know this already, but, with furina’s fanfare dmg bonus, the increased value of the stat by which damage is obtained through multiplying becomes MUCH more efficient than normally. I can’t know for sure without doing the calculations, but i think you might have missed that and ended up ranking husk lower accordingly. I still really like your video though, don’t get me wrong. have a nice day!
@eboyjailer
@eboyjailer 7 месяцев назад
i think the healing set may be for sigewinne! that's just my assumption, as we know nothing about her kit other than being hydro ( and a healer, since she's a nurse )
@komgoo4974
@komgoo4974 7 месяцев назад
I think c4 Jean on a wanderer or xiao team it would be pretty good for them to have songs of days past.
@mewstone8442
@mewstone8442 7 месяцев назад
Would the new healing set be good for on field DPS Qiqi?
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Nope, go for Ocean Hued Clam.
@javelinmaster2
@javelinmaster2 7 месяцев назад
Yh I'm just going to farm Navia's artifacts and then use the bad ones to get other hopefully good ones
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Good luck!
@icecell
@icecell 7 месяцев назад
I'm very tempted to farm the new geo set for my Zhongli just to try it out, but I still don't have a good mh set for neuv yet. Smh
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
😅 Keep farming it'll come soon I hope.
@SeravySensei
@SeravySensei 7 месяцев назад
So far I haven't seen any numbers for the GEO set that have realistic assumptions for Crystallize shield uptime, for example 50% or something like that. Then there is the fact you're getting 3x fewer pieces from the same amount of resin because you could farm the 2x18% ATK set domain instead and strongbox an ATK% set if you aim for 2x18% ATK sets. Factoring that in and the higher probability of 4 row artifacts in strongbox leads to the assumption that your substats on the new set will always be worse than on the 2 piece sets. Including all of that, is the new 4pc set still worth it for Navia? I have a feeling it's significantly worse but anyone has the math skills to prove it?
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 7 месяцев назад
As far as the strongbox goes, you can always use that to benefit another character. I don't know about you, but I have plenty of older sets I want better/more good pieces for, like Emblem, Noblesse, VV, CW, and Pale Flame (not really satisfied with my Eula's artifacts). And that's for someone who has been playing since the game's launch. For a new player, there will be even more need for older pieces. Of course, that ignores other factors. Like 3x weekly bosses getting me Gladiator half the time. And then there are all the boss kills to ascend characters. And all the atk 2 piece ones I picked up while farming the other set in the domain (like Emblem). But, honestly, that is a general issue for a long term player. You'll have a lot of pieces laying around with good sub-stats, than no matter where you farm, it takes a lot of farming before you can improve anything over what you have laying around. I mean, the 4.0 Fontaine sets are good, been farming that since Fontaine released, and I have a very nice set for my Furina, only just managed to upgrade my Fischl, and don't have a Hunter set worth using yet. Artifact RNG sucks.
@NerdEmoji1067
@NerdEmoji1067 7 месяцев назад
Song of days past will definitely be rlly good but only for people with furina. Furina has made healers like Jean and future cloud retainer way better.
@KanataHoshi.
@KanataHoshi. 7 месяцев назад
at last i can upgrade my itto even further
@Nohrellas
@Nohrellas 7 месяцев назад
So Ocean Claim set is better than this new healing set one? For Kokomi, Qiqi, Baizhu, Barbara Ocean Claim is still better?
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Ocean Hued Clam is better overall.
@Hi_I_Good
@Hi_I_Good 7 месяцев назад
Are there any geo infusion characters? ZhongLi dps or maybe support is maybe good with this
@tonyrsoares
@tonyrsoares 7 месяцев назад
so far the only elements that have characters that give infusion are pyro (c6 bennett), cryo with chongyun’s E and hydro with candace’s Q
@tonyrsoares
@tonyrsoares 7 месяцев назад
all the other infusions are self ones either via elemental skill or bursts
@mr.stwelve7479
@mr.stwelve7479 7 месяцев назад
Can song of days past be used on kuki if you play her with ayato furina and kazuha
@user-wl5jt7vz2u
@user-wl5jt7vz2u 7 месяцев назад
I hope the domain with these isn't nearly half as much of a pain to farm as the one with Golden Troupe and Marechaussee Hunter... I hate that Construction Mek.
@Lottiya
@Lottiya 7 месяцев назад
Wouldn’t healing set be really good on on field Kooomi (Kokomi, Furina, Yelan, Xinqiu for example)?
@fruityTart27
@fruityTart27 7 месяцев назад
The video misunderstood how the new set works. It actually only buffs the on-field character, and not the entire team. Ocean-Hued Clam is still Kokomi's best on-field artifact set. Honestly tho, with how bad the numbers are, the only time you'd ever want this set over Noblesse or Tenacity is if your on-field character doesn't scale with ATK (Like NEUVILLETTE), and even then, the instructor set exists.
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Yeah I got the wrong, still worse though.
@joao17282
@joao17282 7 месяцев назад
So is it better for Charllotte in a team with Neuvillette, to use Ocean hued than this new set? I kinda dont know what to put on her, and the ocean set dont really buy for me with the phys damage lol And really annoys me the fact that the atck buffs from the others sets doesnt work for him.
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Ocean Hued should be better for overall damage.
@KategariYami
@KategariYami 7 месяцев назад
Wait what did that healing set get OmegaNerfed recently? I thought the cap was 30k and it lasted for 10s and more hits...?
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
they buffed the DMG% from 3 to 8 and decreased everything else.
@troddenleper8915
@troddenleper8915 7 месяцев назад
why atk on the geo set though. I thought they were going for the def scaling on geo characters? I mean ever since albedo, all other geo characters were def scaling. this just sucks. No to mention you have to keep the crystallize shield. having more defense increases the value of those onion skin shields. lest you want to build EM on them. is that what they are going for?
@yereveluvies
@yereveluvies 7 месяцев назад
Navia’s scaling is ATK based plus her kit revolves around crystallize, that artifacts are basically hers and maybe usable on Ningguang (I don’t have ningguang but I heard she uses ATK too).
@pepsy3085
@pepsy3085 7 месяцев назад
hypothetically, in a noelle-furina team, would i want to use nighttime whispers on noelle or stay with marechaussee?
@Eric-id7yp
@Eric-id7yp 7 месяцев назад
Guess we will have to wait for more charts.. because thats what I was wondering aswell
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
If your playing Furina, Marechaussee Hunter is slightly better than Nighttime. And either way Marechaussee Domain is a more efficient domain for your resin.
@geofer.o.13.888
@geofer.o.13.888 7 месяцев назад
Navia, Gorou, Albedo, & Cryo/Electro/Hydro/Pyro AoE character. Albedo is good for the AoE Geo DMG and the Elemental Mastery buff (Crystallize Shield DMG absorption).
@yanfeimc
@yanfeimc 7 месяцев назад
Does the new healing set work on Jean?
@asaqibs
@asaqibs 7 месяцев назад
How viable or good is new geo artifact set for DPS Zhongli???
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Should be decent for burst DPS
@lodgedwings7017
@lodgedwings7017 7 месяцев назад
Ok, well they said song increases base dmg, and while im not 100% sure what this means, im assuming it increases dmg before buffs such as crit damage, goblet dmg bonus, character buffs, food, ect. So, we have 8% of the 15k stored for 1,200 base dmg increase. If this is before all of the above, then with 150% crit damage, a dmg goblet being for simplicity sake 50%, and lets say mona dmg buff of 60%. Then multiply by 5 for each instance, you have 36,000 damage. And id imagine food, constellations, other character buffs, and easily attainable higher crit damage value would increase this amount even more But since its only a leak shown in this video (i assume) then we cant be 100% sure this is what it's like, 99% maybe. And these numbers are based on if it increases before any other buff i mentioned, which may be incorrect, but until we see it in game, and use it ourselves, then anything could be the case
@ymuirr
@ymuirr 7 месяцев назад
The 2nd one will be crazy with Eula's burst...
@Ne0S0ft
@Ne0S0ft 7 месяцев назад
I have the feeling that the healer set is supposed to function as a set for a healer Furina.
@-S00P3RS-
@-S00P3RS- 7 месяцев назад
nighttime whispers is good for burst dps albedo (WITHOUT C2) since his burst scales of ATK
@miradaewhitespell2790
@miradaewhitespell2790 7 месяцев назад
Yay new set for Ningguang!
@AshuragaBenign
@AshuragaBenign 7 месяцев назад
Everybody gangsta for the new artifact sets till it comes with a 20 GB update with a new barren explorable area that only adds onto your phone storage.
@_vile.god_
@_vile.god_ 7 месяцев назад
I have a question, what about kuki? Is that second set good for her?
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
No, It's not really good for anyone, only specific situations were you don't need an attack buff or VV resistance shred.
@_vile.god_
@_vile.god_ 7 месяцев назад
@@MistsplitterReforged thank you for the information
@andrinaleong4079
@andrinaleong4079 7 месяцев назад
Looking at past trends, these two new artifact sets should be for the next two new limited characters - Navia (4.3), Cloud Retainer (4.4?). So no point judging the healing set now.
@wienzard93
@wienzard93 7 месяцев назад
So basically... Nighttime Whisper is good for my upcoming Ningguang build (bcs I finally have Solar Pearl from BP and no plan of getting Navia) And the healing artifacts sound like it's just a more complicated and worse set than Ocean Hued. Got it. I guess I can always feed it to strongbox to get better healing bonus circlet for my Kokomi. Her ocean hued circlet is still purple after all this time.
@avrilfetana5037
@avrilfetana5037 7 месяцев назад
6:00 i don't get it. I thought only the active character will get the buff? When the buff starts, why would shenhe and kazuha taking some of those buff when your active character is already ayaka?
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Well it's just how the set was made, multiple leakers confirmed that the buff is shared among all party members. It's unfortunate, even if the buff was not shared among party members it still would have been underwhelming.
@GettieJC
@GettieJC 7 месяцев назад
It's only for the active character, right? So after you heal, you should be switching to your dps so it would take the buff no matter if there are any current damaging abilities onfield from a subdps or support who isn't active.
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
@@GettieJC No, It's similar to Furina's buff, applies to the whole party whether they're active or not. Since it applies to the whole party, the number of triggers is also shared.
@nobody-xh6ii
@nobody-xh6ii 7 месяцев назад
"When your active party member hits an opponent"
@GettieJC
@GettieJC 7 месяцев назад
@MistsplitterReforged it says in the description "active character". But if what you say so is true, then its gonna be better imo.
@gojovur9481
@gojovur9481 7 месяцев назад
Oh man..one more farming pain..but everything is worth for Navia..
@Scykyc
@Scykyc 7 месяцев назад
I'm wondering how this will be on geo traveler
@epokepok8019
@epokepok8019 7 месяцев назад
Which one for Arlecchino?
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Way to early to judge, we still don't know anything about her kit.
@Mimori97
@Mimori97 7 месяцев назад
🇫🇷Furina: "Finally a 4pc set fit for me!" 🐟My c6r5 Kokomi: "Do you mean we?" *🇫🇷In a french accent🇫🇷*
@k1ku211
@k1ku211 7 месяцев назад
Man i hope the new set will work on Ningguang, she really needs a good set atp
@flop_for_life
@flop_for_life 7 месяцев назад
The healing set is for a future character ;)
@atyehs
@atyehs 7 месяцев назад
they made this set for C6 furina there’s no way song of days past is that crazy of an increase
@itbh5753
@itbh5753 7 месяцев назад
The geo one looks good for navia and nigwuang
@punga6102
@punga6102 7 месяцев назад
i do hope they buff the healing set. i also wish the looks on that set had been made for golden troupe because it just matches furina so perfectly
@thomifirdi7054
@thomifirdi7054 7 месяцев назад
i'm still confused about baizhu
@humantacos9800
@humantacos9800 7 месяцев назад
All I ever roll is def and def%...now is my time to shine.
@Geneva1906
@Geneva1906 7 месяцев назад
Whats about Albedo? I think the first set would be good for him to? Is it not?
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
It's good but Golden Troupe is better.
@Geneva1906
@Geneva1906 7 месяцев назад
@@MistsplitterReforged hmm, okay. Good to know. Thanks. I tryed Albedo with golden troupe but husk still do better. So I think I will keep my old Set.
@henryeowens
@henryeowens 7 месяцев назад
Let’s hope Navia doesn’t get nerfed like Dehya. She’s a great character in-game. Now she just needs to do decent damage and work well with teams.
@braddl9442
@braddl9442 7 месяцев назад
So another GEO buff and another Healer buff. Geo set is simple enough, its good for GEO characters that dont scale on DEF alone so they have another option other then HUSK or Petra. The healer set seems wordy but it should work out really well with a combo of Thrilling Tales swap to your Main DPS, so Barb, Koko, Char, Baizhu, being the healer catalyst users might make the most of this. Koko might be able to use it as a main DPS set rather then just using the clam set, she can prob solo with the set. Dori and Diona tossing out a Healing field and turret might be able to use this set to buff the character you swap to after them. There are a lot of ways to use this set but depending on which healer you use will change that order of operations on how you get the most of it. Nuev can use it, but I dont think its better then just a wanderers or March Hunter set.
@eIychia
@eIychia 7 месяцев назад
i forgot geo exists
@finalboss9297
@finalboss9297 7 месяцев назад
Mika got the best set for our quine Eola
@DehyaRhea
@DehyaRhea 7 месяцев назад
Not gonna farm for that God forsaken domain 😂. I'd still pull for her tho
@ronnieketchum1241
@ronnieketchum1241 7 месяцев назад
This also shows. How ridiculously broken Marechaussee Hunter is with Furina.
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, and it's usable on almost everyone. So every time I make a guide I must also include Marehaussee Hunter.
@bscpe-2aalvarezreinielvinc507
@bscpe-2aalvarezreinielvinc507 7 месяцев назад
imagine albedo being forgotten
@kbryce14
@kbryce14 7 месяцев назад
burst albedo gonna go crazy. the albedo mains grow stronger
@yazidmeja
@yazidmeja 7 месяцев назад
I think that new set blue artifact is for someone in 4.4
@wolfgang5359
@wolfgang5359 7 месяцев назад
For what I see for Navia, I feel that this new set (while it does synergies with her kit around crystalize reactions) is not as good as Husk for her. For Husk, you pop her burst and it stacks up in a few shots to give you the full bonus. With this set and because HOYO seemingly refuses to give out buffs to anything, crystalize shields break easily against anything that isn't a geo vishap's elemental attack so you would constantly be losing the bonus and not always get the effect to stay active.
@GoldfishOfDoom
@GoldfishOfDoom 7 месяцев назад
Wait Are You Sure it is original x (1+150%) or is it original x 150%? Because the former is really good then! :)
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
I'm pretty sure it is, whenever you add any DMG % in the damage formula it always base*(1+DMG%), I made the same mistake of just putting *150% in my original Furina guide, but it does work that way because if whatever damage bonus was 50% (0.5) if you multiply it you will get a lower value, so it's always 1+DMG% to get an increase of DMG.
@GoldfishOfDoom
@GoldfishOfDoom 7 месяцев назад
@@MistsplitterReforged Yes, I know about adding damage part... I just wasn'tsure that if their wordings of increasing by meant that or not... well, mow I know... THANK YOU!!!!!!!! :) ❤❤
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
@@GoldfishOfDoom Your welcome! :D
@clarakhong1148
@clarakhong1148 7 месяцев назад
Songs of Days Past has the potential to be a good set for Bennett.
@Project_ryuuko
@Project_ryuuko 7 месяцев назад
Imagine dehya healing passive on that new artifacts… pls buff dehya…
@raquelsario9224
@raquelsario9224 7 месяцев назад
i am using Noelle to have this artifact
@asphirron
@asphirron 7 месяцев назад
Husk and Marechusse are still better.
@raquelsario9224
@raquelsario9224 7 месяцев назад
yeah i am talking about those 2
@jendar8039
@jendar8039 7 месяцев назад
yall are so clueless with how powerful that healing set is on furina teams 💀
@tanishqsoni4386
@tanishqsoni4386 7 месяцев назад
Now finally i can use my albedo
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Albedo's best set is Golden Troupe, it increases Skill DMG.
@zyonzyon8871
@zyonzyon8871 7 месяцев назад
maybe song of days past is good for an upcomming character like sigewinne and stuff
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Probably
@gzemme
@gzemme 7 месяцев назад
So many artifacts not so many resins😩
@lobs7297
@lobs7297 7 месяцев назад
Looks ningguang will becomes really op with this artefacts
@shaanyg9052
@shaanyg9052 7 месяцев назад
There were so many words being pronounced differently each time I heard them
@aslamsyariq9215
@aslamsyariq9215 7 месяцев назад
the geo one is a noelle piece
@marley7659
@marley7659 7 месяцев назад
I wonder if ningguang will work with this set.
@MistsplitterReforged
@MistsplitterReforged 7 месяцев назад
Yes the geo set is good for her/
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