Apple Watch Training Load and Recovery Tracking Deep Dive (WatchOS 11) 

I think Strava also lets you input how hard you thought the workout felt, and then you can choose to override HR date and it recalculates your training load based on that. Similar to you with the Apple, I find it under calculates training load on really long workouts like when I go do ultra distances lasting 6-8 hours and at the end my body is wrecked, but my training load may be less than if I did a 2 hour run with a 30 minute threshold hill effort, pushing into anaerobic a few times and 30 minute tempo flat effort. When I adjust the perceived effort of how the workout felt and override HR then it will bring these two training loads into better perspective. I wonder how this compares with Apple?

Hi Des. Thanks for the video. You talked about whether to account for duration on your effort rating or not, but you didn't really come to a conclusion. What should we do here? How should we rate a zone 2 five hour ride? It is both easy (effort) and hard (effort x time) at the same time!

Watching this as I download the Beta! ⌚️ I’m excited to give it a try.

I think it's telling that Apple is not using HRV in its Vitals calculations, considering Whoop and others use it for a similar recovery metric. I found my Apple Watch regularly records "outlier" values for HRV almost every night (e.g. most values are under 50 but there will be one or two above 130). I wonder if this might be a reason?

00:25 do do. I always like it when someone in RU-vid says do do

Been playing around with these since Beta 1. Definitely agree! A cool first step, effort rating and factoring in your perceived exertion into load is awesome. But everything else and the way it actually practically affects your training still has a way to go but keen to see it get there

Thank you! Got it since developer Beta and everything is fine for me (espescially battery) on my Ultra 2

Bout to download the beta right now to test this out. I got an ultra this weekend but my gen 6 won't live the whole time but we'll see what happens

Great video, thank you! :)

Informative update! Thank you. I’ve been using the beta since launch and your impressions are similar to mine. Very foundational.

Just for your information, in the final minutes of this video there is some very high pitched microphone noise. It’s present when you at your desk.

I look forward to when this comes out! My watch is still on 10.5.

Still seems a bit behind others... was hoping the vitals and training load would be tangible and a little more useful. I think they need to better present the date in more meaningful ways

Great review as always, Des. Do the training load features apply only to workouts recorded on the Apple Watch or does it calculate third-party workouts also, i.e., Strava, Wahoo, etc.?

How do you feel it compares to the garmin with OS 11?

Garmin already let you choose theperceived exertion after a workout. And to be frank, I think they are doing a good job not to take that into account for the overall "work-load-calculation". Otherwise its getting hard to compare it.

Hey!!!Nice video!!You think it’s time to replace the Athlytic app?

I want so bad to switch Apple Watch U2 from Garmin (triathlete here), but holding out until Apple enables manual lap swimming with the action button! Maybe it will be a part WatchOS 11??

I know you can't know the future, but what are your thoughts about the ultra vs ultra 2 or waiting for the new apple watches? The Ultra one is on sale by a pretty significant amount and wanted an opinion of someone who is pretty involved in the smarwatch community

I’ve got a question, will the mapping feature only be available for the USA? Or worldwide? Thanks.

could you review the Galaxy watch ultra please.

You installed iOS 18's beta on your phone as well? Brave man. 🙂

Got s9 and installed os11 and yes I ditched my forerunner

Will the heart rate with Apple Watch connect to my Wahoo Elemnt Roam v2? I currently have to use the North Pole Engineering Heartbeatz device to communicate the heart rate from the watch to the Wahoo. It’s a pain to have to bring this device. Any reason the watch can’t connect to Wahoo and Garmin bike computers? I do not want to use my phone as a bike computer. Thanks!

Wonder why Apple doesn't give us "recovery time" after a workout? Other companies have already done this for a long time.

Anyone noticed that the pace average calculations in the new fitness app widgets aren’t correct? They seem to be averaging paces of workout intervals instead of giving the actual pace

can't wait to update and see battery life halved again

Will you test the Suunto Race S?

I looked at Apple Maps in Colorado and I don’t see trails. I looked for Capitol peak trail and it wouldn’t show. If it doesn’t show in Apple Maps, what’s the real use with hiking mountains when the trails aren’t even there?! I may get a Suunto race s for a hiking watch so I don’t have to spend $500+ on a Garmin.

wich watch band do you use on the apple watch?

Can I update the intensity of a workout manually if it's imported from Strava? I record my running and strength on apple watch but cycling I record on Hammerhead Karoo, which uploads it to Strava, which then uploads it to apple watch workouts (as a Strava workout)

Apple just need to hire someone from Garmin and call it a day.

Does this feature of training effort/load work with WorkOutdoors app? Since the app does sync to Apple workouts/fitness stuff - I figure it would work

So is this appi all free?

Will you be reviewing the galaxy watch 7?

The effort rating is always blank you have to rate it yourself every time

Test the galaxy watch ultra

The question is, does the apple watch do it better than the Whoop band?

Battery life is crap compared to Garmin. I got an Ultra and I regret it

does the se version have all that?

you need 4 more watches

I also like amzwatch replicas. People who don’t wear them like professionals can’t tell the difference. Their workmanship is really great luxuriatey

I’m a mountain biker and have tried an Apple Watch several times to track a ride and to train for races. My Garmin Watch plus ANT+ sensors blow the Apple Watch out of the water.

9 hrs 18 of sleep! Whats your secret?

Just get a Garmin

Most boring ui

It’s useless. I use it on beta and it doesn’t help at all. Weight lifting for example is only manual

First 🎉

Why get a Garmin wannabe? Just get a Garmin.