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“Boy in a Box,” Trial: Reactive Attachment Disorder (RAD)

​@@georgewashington3555 They DONOT put murders in solitary confinement in complete darkness. It's inhumane. That would make his mental state 1000x worse than anything they claim he had.

And a sadist, he and his wife a tag team

He didn’t take the plea so this kid get justice.

3 decades of a cold cell ahead for these two morons!

and he’ll regret it

I think they both are!

Just imagine it the air conditioner would have malfunctioned. They would be on trial for murder.

Cut the lights and leave them w a bucket too!

@@stoutie18 And no air conditioning and a peanut butter sandwich and an apple.

Ikr?!?! I was just about to comment that I don't understand how some people think that this is okay!!! I just hope those people don't have any children!!!!

They need to share a cell with Mom and Dad for LWOP

Parents? What😢 parents? They are not worthy of the name parents!!!!! Why did they treat bim like a criminal??? It is demeaning abusive and sick it is like a jail!!!! Why why why is he treated dofferently. They must be locked up in jail. This child has spent years al alone in that room. No windows or anything.. Cruel and sick while the other children can live a normal life. NO EXCUSE FOR THOSE 2 SO CALLED ADULTS. I do not even lock my doggies in a cage!!!!!!😢😢😢😢

They are pitiful

I totally agree!

Dad sure liked calling RF “tough guy”. Let’s see who is tough now, Creep!

Well said 👏

MisTreated As a a dog…

What dod he-- ever do to deserve this treathemt?

@@madelineduhamel3129Be a child, not a “possession” of the parents. There are faaarrrr more abusive parents out there than you can imagine. Remember, *all abusers isolate their victims.* Most of them are never caught/successfully prosecuted. We learn very quickly the first LAW in our abusive homes was “Thou Shalt Not Talk.” We end up Stockholm Bonded with our abusers and believe we are entirely responsible for our abuse. Many of us never speak of it because we are convinced we’re garbage-just for being normal kids and doing normal Age and Stage appropriate behavior. Parents: Please remember, we’re not hostages or mini-adults. We’re just KIDS.

“Boy in a Box,” Trial: Reactive Attachment Disorder (RAD)

Very well said!

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Excuse me, I, over 20 years ago wrote a bad check ($123) at a geocery store. I am a convicted felon. I now have a vert good union job, abd make very good money. I know convicted felons who are Attorneys, Nurses, laborers, etc. Stop using that word to describe the worst of society. My crime was over 20 years ago. Yrt, according to most folks, I'm just a "felon". I'll tell you what, I'd cut off both arm before treating my Son like this. These people give felons a bad name. Stop using "felon" to describe the worst in society. I know Nurses, Attorney's, laborers etc, who are felons. Dont act like we arent a productive part of society.

Most of y'all have committed some type of crime, yoy just werent caught. These two are no fkn where near as remorseful as I was. Bet they wont get a 3 year prison sentence like I did . Bet they'll get probation, ahd a fine.

Absolutely

It will take a long time. Abuse like that rewires the brain.

And life in jail!!!!!!!!

This is how criminals are made. Crappy parents produce crappy children that grow up to be crappy parents themselves.

When he testified he said his parents treated him like that because of his bad behavior Like he was sticking up for them. Did anyone else feel that

Sorry.,. You can't have AC or water either

Hope it’s years since they will have a sink, toilet, open cell bars 3 meals a day etc.

yes, with a bucket...

Sadly they will be able to FLUSH their feces.. and eat more than peanutbutter sandwiches.

​@@JorjaJankowskithey get a toilet and air conditioning in jail more than he got so they will never feel what he felt😢

Truth 💯

Or, more accurately, deranged.

Evil personified

True!!

I watched a tik tok video about this case today. The creator says’ when punishing a child you don’t remove the love! That is exactly what these parents did to him

He was actually treated less than an Animal,… I so want to wipe that smug look off of both their faces 😤

Of course. Treat me like crap i got something for you. And it won't be good. Hes 16 now. Still a child

@@MitziHartI know. Our cat has access to 2 litter boxes and food and water at all times. And we clean his litter box!! His parents are monsters. These cases where they have multiple kids and they treat the other kids “normally” and then one they torture and starve.

He probably is reckoning negative attention is probably better than no attention. I wish they could lock these parents in that room one at a time for the same amount of time that they locked him in there with only a matress and a bucket. They are worse than animals.

Like the one doctor said, he already had issues stemming from when he was a baby in Vietnam, but their actions absolutely made it so much worse. That boy sitting in his box screaming primal screams and tearing things off the wall... That's frustration, that's anger over how he's treated coming out. He's not misbehaving, he's reacting. Awful people.

And then get angry if the child acts like a bully sometimes when you bully him every day. Just insane thinking.

I agree! Thank goodness for that contractor!!

Who is this contractor?

@@corinazammet7697 He was asked to construct the room and flagged it up as a concern with the police.

He had his own Halloween at home every day with those two.

@@carmellewis2466 So true!

What makes you think she has her phone?

It's obvious the many time she looks down in her lap. Not only her but others too.

@@dOlli3cOutur3 I didn't notice a phone.

Can we get a message to the judge about it?

@@vida2515yes. I have the judges number. You want it ?

Agree. They look intimidating 😳 their expressions, make me uneasy, and I am an adult 😅

The entire family of the parents sitting around them in court yesterday were disgusting people. I would be fearful being in same room with them. This kid is lucky to be alive they have such disdain for him. They all need to live in the box for a week and see if they agree this was appropriate punishment. Sickening how they cluster together with the defendant during court breaks and frown with disgust as the child deserved this. I’m waiting for verdict of very long prison sentences as I can’t watch this anymore.

Yes they both look evil!

The first time I saw their mugshots I thought their eyes looked soulless. Still in the courtroom they look scary to me

​@@missylynns8966Agree 💯

Yeah, why adopt an Asian kid when they have no clue what Asian orphanages are like and have a therapist ready for him in America 🇺🇸

Exactly!

100% Vanessa❤️‍🩹

Yes! Exactly!

Hurray for the Contractor who stepped up and said something!! I wonder what they said to the Contractor in AZ?

Shame on them? Thats your final comment!

No, the boy in the box is a well known international case and has nothing to do with this boy or any other child, other than the little boy found dead in a box many years ago & has now been identified but they haven’t released the name.

​​@@dudemorris7769yes its been released. Court TV has done a video on it. It was 65 years ago. His name was Joseph. I can't recall his middle and last name. The video is here on RU-vid It's Joseph Zarelli

@@dudemorris7769 we aren’t discussing that boy in that box. This boy was also in a box. No one has a copyright on “in the box”

Even a caged bird has sunlight. This young boy of 14-yrs had been living in darkness and despair. Unconscionable!

Not

This really touched me ❤ Clearly you and your parents were meant to be because you have amazing introspection and discernment!

Coming in and taunting the kid asking where he is going, it looks like they enjoy it

@@LosAngelesLaura ❤️❤️❤️ Thank you. I really am very lucky and agree we were meant to be- even if it was a difficult road. ❤️❤️❤️

I had cousins who were adopted. They were given everything. One of them was well adjusted and just the sweetest girl. The other was more lost and eventually became angry, left home at an early age and became a drug addict. It’s really hard to help a child who has been traumatized/abused/abandoned/neglected ( we don’t even know what most of them have gone through). Sometimes, it’s near impossible. In my cousin’s case, she was given every opportunity by wealthy adoptive parents and yet she acted out and caused them a lot of grief. In her case, she had loving, kind, understanding parents. I can only imagine how hard it would have been for her if they’d have been harsh, dictatorial and demanding.

@@sjohnschafer you’re definitely onto something…. We adoptees tend to push every button and test every limit with adoptive parents to test and see if they are truly committed to us for the duration….. abandonment at birth is the most primal would that never leaves a person. We can put band aids on it but it doesn’t go away. When I had my own twins I really struggled because I couldn’t think of any situation where you could take them from me- on some primal biological realm I was fiercely protective. I have always been grateful my birth mother gave me a shot at life with awesome people instead of the other option. Parenting is hard. Parenting adopted kids is very hard and on an all together different level. It takes very special and strong people and I’m so glad my adoptive folks are all of those things!

That kid must be lucky to live like that in America. Have you seen orphan living conditions in Vietnam yet before you called this child abuse?

​@@ttttt316oh I see... You're just trolling, placing this ignorant comment all over. Imbecile.

@@ttttt316Adopted children are entitled to the same living arrangements, nutrition, and intellectual, medical, and emotional supports their siblings - adopted or not - receive in their shared home. *All* children have the right to access the basic home amenities their parents have access to - climate control, developmentally appropriate access to bathrooms and kitchens to meet hygiene and nutritional needs, and the ability to interact freely with the members of their household. If a child is not developmentally able to care for themselves based in age or disability, it is the responsibility of the parent or guardian to provide that care. Abuse and neglect are not cultural constructs; these are legal definitions designed to protect basic human rights. The fact that human rights are violated in some circumstances - or to a greater degree in some circumstances - does not absolve anyone of violating the rights of others, especially in parent-child relationships. I hope this traumatized child received the support he needs to heal intellectually, physically, and emotionally. He’s book-smart and well-spoken despite the horrific way he was treated; he will need help to understand why it wasn’t ok and was not his fault for the rest of his life.

Ikr??? Dad turned down a 2 yr plea deal. He really thinks what he did was ok. THATS THE DANGEROUS PART. NARCISSIST. ENTITLED. SOCIOPATH.

@@cynthiahagerman5718 I couldn't have said it better🧡

This was imprisonment of a minor child. No toilet. No daylight. Shameful abuse.

TOTAL criminal!!!

disgusting!

That kid must be lucky to live like that in America. Have you seen orphan living conditions in Vietnam yet before you called this child abuse?

Right. Why weren’t they in family council with the boy? They both seem to be educated. Why resort to locking him in a box? They had no other options? That’s b.s.

Put them in prison, no windows, no lights for hours, mattress on the floor, no human interaction, only bread and peanut butter, and 1 orange bucket!

@@delib636 great idea if you're running for president I'll vote for you

Twice over. This is disgusting. How did Tim get a 2yr deal offer. I hope he gets the rest of his life in prison

They will know what it’s like to be locked up but they won’t know what it’s like to be forced to use the bathroom in a bucket or eat only peanut butter and bread though. I hope he goes on to live an amazing life and those parents rot in prison!

@@marydunigan1504 maybe they already know. I'm not sure what either one's childhood or college years were like

Good point! Omg I never even thought of that.

And I have doubts that either of them would bother to try to get him out. They do not care about this child's well-being at all.

It is illegal. That is why the carpenter went to the police.

So sad I had no idea

What’s it called? Stockholm syndrome where the victim protects the perp whom they think “saved” them!

i really hope his statements don’t influence the jury to side on behalf of the parents. this poor kid has no perspective and maybe won’t realize what abuse he suffered until many years later, if ever

That's typical of advised children.

That is such a tragedy

She has a legal right to be there. She's not a witness in his trial and she has a right to see the evidence presented against her.

I don't know how she has the brass neck to show up legal right or not

@@julieallen6622 I agree but we get to see her coldness which won't be good for her at her trial.

Yes that seems wrong to me.

Exactly, these two MONSTERS are so damn COLD towards this young man!

Amen

just shows how commonplace and accepted child abuse is. people see kids as literal property.

They need to account, no doubt but having dealt with severe ADHD, I can understand it was traumatizing for parents too. There were times I was so overwhelmed by the aggression and extreme meltdowns I feared my son would hurt someone or me. I even booked myself into psych facility for help. They must pay, but having a normal child you couldn't ever understand the trauma experienced by all involved.

@@meganruddock7574yeah what I’ve always thought about this case is that I don’t know what I would do if one of my children was a physical threat to my other children. That being said when there weren’t many details out, I expected to hear that he had threatened to kill other family members or wielded a weapon towards the family. Even if so, you shouldn’t put them in a box, you should have them arrested. I honestly understand if a parent feels the need for a kid to be constantly supervised and they need solutions for when that isn’t possible, but even in that situation it’s not clear to me why you can’t put a lock on a bedroom door and obviously they had him in there at times that the rest of the family was home and could keep an eye on him.

@@meganruddock7574 I agree there are children like that - that are violent and unsafe for others to be around - and that sometimes the parents can’t get the help they need for the child. However, I haven’t heard of any evidence of them reaching out for help regarding this and this “punishment” - or whatever the parents are calling it - is abominable and unacceptable - it’s child abuse plain and simple.

@@herroyalhighness5634 You mean, have a lock on his room in the house right? You are not justifying having a lock on a box that is not in the house. They do not understand that imposing this life style on the child, that alone is making him act out. Before he was adopted, i'm sure it was the same and he was abused that brought this on. Every adult until the constructed the box, never looked out for his well being. I agree, thank goodness for him. , let's not hide it behind as a diagnosis of the child. This is an extremely heartbreaking case.

Or better still. Take that $3000 & invest it in professional help… that’s what Parents who can clearly afford to, would do if they were loving, caring & concerned about their Son’s behaviour. It’s blatant, premeditated Child abuse❤️‍🩹

Awful. And the other children now have role models for torture. Great eh?!!!!

And also whatever his behavior is of course he would be the way he was all that abuse he suffered what was he supposed to do, jump up and down In glee?! No natural affection my goodness!!

I just recently started watching this case. My question is, did the contractors ever ask the couple what they were using the room for?! 🤔 This is horrible!!

They told the police ​@@kimdavis3259

He feels and KNOWS he has no value?? He might feel that way but everyone has value so I'm not sure that's accurate. They were wrong for what they did no doubt but this was a troubled pre teen to teen when this occurred. He acted out and committed crime's. Raising children is hard, raising troubled children is VERY hard because they can be very mean disrespectful and refuse to listen so I think it's a complicated situation. Saying it's all the parents fault without knowing all the facts is rush to judgement. It's usually step children and adopted children that can be the hardest because there's other things that happened. Yes they were disgusting for giving such harsh punishment regardless.

Hi...how did he get saved?

⁠@@lynettejoubert4291a construction contractor hired to build the structure reported it to the police because it was suspicious. Good to know that there are still some observant good people in this world who choose to do the right thing.

Yes to all of this. The contractor's name is Jacques Ben Aim and I hope that people look up his interview here on RU-vid. Once he realized that the box was going to be locked from the outside only, he blew the whistle on Tim, going so far to put himself in legal jeopardy because he built without pulling a permit.

How did he get away? I can’t find out that information

The contractor reported it to police. I think the police followed up with a visit to the home but sadly, took no further action. Until the boy ran away after school on Friday. The mom reported him missing, a day or two later. Which set off the eventual investigation and arrest of the parents.

My heart truly breaks for this boy. I hope many good people enter his life now and give him the love he never got from his parents💔

The worst thing you can do to a human is not rebuke him.. not give consequences for their actions. Have you ever seen the life of a child in juvenile hall? Go look up videos.. you'll see inhumane 😮😢

@@missylynns8966 me too this is horrible!

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Seems like when they moved from AZ to FL, they never had intentions for him to have his own room. Sick.

The so called "mother's" face is as hard as nails...

She's even been chewing gum or her tongue!

It's good he's not taking a deal, that way he'll get a longer sentence

The firemen would have a fit knowing he was locked in a room

You need to get a fireman in there to talk about that locked door. Lock on other side

The type of malignant narcissism will take DTrumpf down. He will never plead guilty.

I caught that too. The baby boy replaced their "broken" adoptive son and they had no plan to reintegrate him into the family.

So you say.. what I'd they were troubled because his behavior gave them evidence that he would do harm😮 you jump right into they wanted a single room for their natural child. Have you even been in a home with a child or adult that makes choices that are harmful? Please let us know about how you just go about your day and dont protect the others who are in your care.. you just keep them head on into the fire?

They probably we're going to kill him or ended up killing him next it could have happened with these two thank goodness he's alive

@@Heseesyou Thank you for your comment. Could you please point to one moment of love and closeness between the parents and the son in 4 hours of video? There are a hundred different options they could have taken. They were a family of means. They had no intention of moving him back. There was no other room for him. You think all people with troubled children are justified to take this route?? Wowzer

@@rhodadutoit1747 so did your parents ever discipline you?

I don't understand that either.🤔

I guess because she can see her fate before her eyes.

Are they being charged together? That could be why.

Me toooooo!

she isn’t a real mom. She’s a damn monster who happened to breed. Poor kid adopted by these monsters.

I feel like the defense is going with "he's acting out, that's why he was put into a box".

Yeah it’s also crazy the prosecution offered two years…makes you wonder what evidence the defense is going to present. At this point I would say he should have taken the deal.

The Judge is not happy.

@@herroyalhighness5634 there is no evidence to justify abuse. They never reached out for help if he was violent. The judge will not be lenient.

what evidence can be used to defend imprisoning a child in inhumane and unclean conditions@@herroyalhighness5634

@impressiveemu1259from your lips to Gods ears! ⚖️

I live in Florida. This is absolutely true! Garages are nothing short of ovens and possible death traps in the hot weather. They disgust me.

Smiling?

Disgusting woman

Yea and imagine....he didn't take the two and a half year plea deal. This is not going to end well for them. Even if he was a dangerous child they had other options. Surrender him. Call law enforcement, therapy etc.

Agree 100%!!! Why didn’t they get him help? They knew better! 😠

@@missylynns8966 the defense claims that they did get him help but nothing worked but as a parent you don’t sort to abusive punishment. I don’t care what anyone says….you don’t put children in a box, cage, basement and isolate them for hours and hours ! That will really mess up a kid 😞 on the stand during his testimony he sounds like a very smart intelligent young man and I believe he is but there is damage and that is what these parents should learn.

Parents need help ..not the child...they created this

It’s the least of what they deserve for how they treated that child and how they are dragging him through the courts when they know damn well they are guilty as sin. Hope the juries in both trials find some justice for the boy and give him some semblance of peace.

I am shocked they were even given that. Lol they were so stupid to refuse that deal. But I sure am glad they did...

God works in mysterious ways. This will be a better deal and justice for the young man. Hang in there son. The world is praying for you.

Narcissistic. They will get more time.

30 years is what they deserve! 🤞

I agree! Why are so many parents do such hanious things to children? this world is so messed up. I'm deeply saddened and it is frightening to think how many kids are living in hell at the hands of the parents!

A whipped dog loves his master.

I was gaslighted.Just found out 3 weeks ago after 58 years.

That kid must be lucky to live like that in America. Have you seen orphan living conditions in Vietnam yet before you called this child abuse?

​@@ttttt316comparative whataboutism doesn't make either of these things ok.

They go extreme with hate or love no medium

Agreed 👍

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I want to gouge out their beady little rat eyes myself, and I've never met them.

I'd consider myself a balanced, rational person and I STILL want to gouge their eyes out.

Yes, exactly! He’s thriving in school, taking Honors classes now that he isn’t living with these monsters. These parents abused him and you can see the contempt in their faces!

Absolutely

They've made him believe that their mistreatment of him is his fault. It's deplorable.

Stockhold Syndrome.

I don't think they're intelligent, much less caring if he died or not. Heat exhaustion and passing out would have been more likely to take him, and that wasn't considered.

That’s what I thought. Raw sewage being dumped on the ground? 🤮. I would think there would be a horrible smell after so much dumping. Crazy.

Yeah, I thought of that too. This is a sad case.

I had a city warming for dog poo stink in my yard. Can you imagine the stink in Florida from a human

@@JorjaJankowski 🤢

@@JorjaJankowski the boy said that his "room" smelled putrid.

This poor boy believes he deserves this, so much so that he defends their actions. This is normal for him. He has been cast aside literally his entire life. If they had proceeded correctly with counseling and love, he probably wouldn't be acting out so much now. But they didn't, and now he is completely traumatized and detached. It will take years and years to undo what they've done.

Omg.. that’s so sad I would be so angry at all of them. They said he treated his sister wrong? Maybe because of what they did to him!!

@@miwi3095 I read elsewhere that the parents took out a restraining order against their other two children.... claiming they "hacked into their email".... and gave evidence to an attorney or something.... really, a restraining order against the other older children.

He’s with new foster parents, doing well and making all A’s in advanced placement classes, science and math.

Agreed! It seems he is politely robotic.

Where are you seeing video of him? They're not showing it on here or anywhere... what am I missing??

@@Katja421 I've been watching his trial all week

Not that I have seen. They spoke to him so coldly, yelled and cussed at him and locked him away for “punishment “. You can tell by the way Tim and his evil dark eyed wife look at the victim in court that there is absolutely no love for this boy.

@@SweetSourMiss It really is appalling. They knew this child had issues when they brought him home. They appear to be fairly intelligent people, so I'm quite puzzled as to how they wouldn't know that what they were doing was just making it worse.

it's been the prosecution's case so far. You'll have to wait for the defense side, starting Tuesday. They did have a bit of defense testimony today. A friend talked about a vacation he went on with his children and the defendants and their children. How the teen boy (he was about 11 I guess at the time) held down the other kids in the pool while they struggled. Then, as they were leaving the vacation home, the adults noticed all the knives in the kitchen were gone and they searched the boy's luggage and found all the knives in there.

@@blitzmom2674 right, by this time he'd been locked up this way already in Arizona. These people move across the country and bought a new house never planning on having him live inside of it. He heard then in Arizona talking about building that awful cell in the new house. If it was going to be his room, why only 8x8? Why not 12x12? Why not buy a house with a room for him already there? You can put a lock on a bedroom door if they felt they need to keep him in at night. He was exiled because they couldn't be bothered to get him proper mental health care. The gentleman today said the notes he was given to review were from two psych doctors with only 2-3 appointment notes from each. That's not consistent, therapeutic care. That's them not liking it when they were told they needed to change the way they dealt with him and not going anymore. They devised their own "treatment plan."

​@blitzmom2674 so did he get counseling. It sounds like no...also his behavior may be due to the abuse he was subjected to.