I appreciate the review and agree with all of it. The quiet confidence in this shoe without it feeling wild is like it has a professional temperament. Not like pro runner, but like a mature business professional. It just gets it done without making noise about it. I got this one because it fits my odd feet better than any other race day shoe. Great shoe for the wide foot fam, IMO.
Elite V3 is my all time favorite shoe! (I wear other shoes only to take wear and tear off the Elites.) Sad to see they got rid of the stylized bird wing logo. Huuuge step backwards aesthetically. And that's not something to underestimate. V1-V3 looked fast. And if a shoe looks fast, I feel fast. And if I feel fast I _am_ fast. Maybe the New New Balance simply means I get to stockpile Old New Balance for cheap!
I love the reviews, and they are super helpful. You can really see how professionalism and expression are evolving with each review. It's fascinating how detailed and accurate one can describe the feel of a shoe. I never thought someone could influence my buying decision so much. When I buy and test the shoe, I always get exactly what I expected - thanks kofuzi.
SC elite v3 is my first super shoe. My feet are fussy and this shoe fits great and doesn't aggravate my arches or anything else. One thing I love is that it just disappears on my foot and I don't really think about it. I'm happy to hear you feel the same about v4. I have almost 400 miles on V3 so I'll be picking up the new ones soon!
There's got to be some red tape derived premiums involved, which is probably an issue across Europe, but NB seem to be the worst for price discrepancies between markets.@@jesustsa1
Running shoes are just becoming ridiculous in price. At least put some tread on them that can last over 100 miles. I loved my sc fuelcell trainers but the tread was terrible and for the sc elite 3 the sock style of liner was annoying. Happy to see the new style but have my doubts still
Just bought it and I’m lost with sizing. I got my normal size and it’s just on the limit, not sure I can complete a marathon with it but the half size bigger is way to big. Anyone else having t similar issue and any advice ?
Just bought my pair and trying them out this afternoon. I hope they’re a good replacement for my AP3 until the release of AP4. Sending lots of love from Manila Philippines 🇵🇭 ❤
Personally, this shoe isn’t a fast racing shoes(5k-10k-21k). It’s more of a cruise control type of shoe for the marathon. The more voluminous fit should help with the swelling of the feet and the less aggressive feeling will be appreciated at the end of the race when your running form start to get sloppy. As you say, it’s a shoe that grows on you.
Thanks for the review Kofuzi! Back in the time I choose to run with the sc elite v2 because of your review :) still loving it!! Which newer super shoe do you think can replace the easy going rc elite v2?
How does the toebox volume compare to SC Trainer V2? SC Trainer is the only shoe that fits like a glove on my weird feet and am very nervous about redesign.
@@kofuzi Thanks for the suggestion, Mike. I will check the rebel out when available. March I think. Also, why would NB not release the all white version of these shoes!! I think those were the best.
Thankful for payment plan with apps i bought these. Its very improved from v3. The tongue is improved, not gusseted but way better than that scrunchy, and the ankle area is better no more pokes or jabs on outside. Nice roll, didn't notice weight really or didn't bother me. Straight out of box almost pr'd. I like v3, but that upper hurt my feet. V4 gets 5 of 5 p-corns. Great shoe for heavy runner like me, 210lbs.
I just bought these to try. I want them for my long-distance days and race day shoes. I've been using the Nike Vaporfly. Can anyone compatible the 2 of you've used both?
I love the metaspeed sky plus. my last three marathon PBs are in metaspeed sky and its progeny. but when I talk about how some shoes are wild (and that I like wild), metaspeed and adios pro are what I'm talking about but I think the SC Elite 4 is quite good shoe. I anticipate that a lot of people will likely start out lukewarm to it but then end up loving it over time
I tried the SC Elite v4 on in store alongside the Cielo X 1. I don’t really gripe too much about weight, so that was not an issue with me. I ended up with the Hoka because it just felt more exciting and novel for an A/B step-in. However, what you’re saying about the SC Elite v4 has me eager to try the SC Pacer v2 when it comes out later in the year. That one sounds like it has some serious potential.
Interesting. If nothing else, it's a gorgeous shoe. Any word on whether it will be available in wide fit for us toe splayers? I'm so hesitant to get racing shoes because I'm worried how my toes will fare all cramped in under a carbon plate. Do you think the regular version is wide enough? I've heard mixed things about the Saucony Pro, some say the fit is accommodating, others say it has a narrow toe box and that the Saucony Elite is actually more accommodating of splaying feet. Right now I;m using the Rebel v3 as my tempo shoe, and the Saucony Speed (wide fit, not available on the pro) as my tempo/ long run at race pace shoes. I have the New Balance 1080 as a daily/recover runner, but this seems to be very different in feel from that shoe. Did you find the weight noticeable?
With the comparison to the Saucony Pro 3, I finally figured out who has yet to send you a sample pair of shoes. If so, I hope you get them soon. Looking forward to the review.
I am going to buy this one after hearing your review. Honestly wasn't even considering after the previous models. Second tier for me in the race shoe world. Gonna wait for some of the new colorways...
I have both the v.3 and now the v.4 and although my first impression of the v.4 was underwhelming it has, as you mentioned, grown on me fast. The upper is by far better, for me, than the v.3 which I had two hot spot areas, one which required "surgery" on my part. I do think the v.3's midsole was more "fun" (bouncy and cushioned), but the v.4 is going to be a great marathon shoe and having done my long runs in them I can tell I will, as usual with NB, not ever have to think about my feet. As for pairing, I would substitute the 1080 v.13 instead of the More v.4 because the latter is just a bit too clunky and heavy for me. BTW, I have the Endorphin Pro 3 and much prefer the NB SC Elite v.4. Thanks for your review and happy running.
I've thought about the 1080v13 as the pairing option, but the way they've changed the 1080v13 makes it feel more like an alternative to the Rebel v4 rather than a complement. but it is pretty comfy, so I could see it in the way you describe
If by barefoot, you mean without socks, then I might go with the SC Elite 4. For durability, assuming you mean foam longevity and not upper durability, then Sky Paris
Just like the Cielo X1, these brands can’t keep coming out with Vaporfly and Alphafly competitors that are over an ounce heavier. I don’t care what tech they say they added to it to make the weight not as noticeable, like the Cielo X1 and the aggressive rocker, you can’t make up for being that much heavier. The Vaporfly is still king, almost 2 ounces lighter than this and over 2 ounces lighter than the Cielo X1. Whoever is in marketing and engineering at these companies needs to be more aggressive with saving weight
Are you angry as you are writing this? I read it as angry, but I don’t know if something is off in my reading comprehension lately. I think I need a reset or recalibration.
@@kofuzi haha definitely not angry but I could see how it can be taken that way. More just disappointed! I want the super shoe market to be more competitive for non-sponsored elites, people who really care about pure performance! No one is truly competing with Nike or Adidas
true to drop is a phrase I've not heard before, but I'd say it's true to drop for a peba shoe. 4mm in a peba race shoe isn't the same as 4mm in a Bondi
@@kofuzi It's clearly not a reflection of the shoe prices which are cheaper adjusted for inflation than they were 30 years ago; it's just a reflection on the fact that inflation since 30 years ago has doubled the price of shoes.
@@liiou4445 is that the only alternative to $250 shoes??? Or is that more like "how dare you criticise the price of a shoe! Run in crocs and shut up"? Either way, that's an unusual response
The elite V3 is my TM shoe of choice..I too am a fan of knit uppers..the V3 is doesn't have the forefoot cushioning for racing,but it's great for TM running..as long as they don't ruin that fuel cell squish V4 will be for me..
On the SC V3 I felt like I had to put in more effort to run faster paces because of the squish of the foam. Is there a shoe you would compare it to in terms of responsiveness?
Great review and was waiting for you to do this one! You mentioned taking it down to 5k paces , thoughts on it being an option for races from 5k to half?
@@kofuzi thanks! Metaspeed edge+ has been my go to for those distances especially 5k to 10 miles races. Ready for something new and tempted to get another pair , but hoping we see a new version soon. Seems that way with the chatter and what was on asics athletes last weekend
my recommendation is to not just take a recommendation but to try them on and test them out, also in a very long run. Every foot and biomechanics are different, for me the Vaporfly 2 did not fit (1 and 3 are fine), the Adios Pro 3 gives me blisters unless I wear very thick socks, Endorphin Pro 3 rocker doesn't match my metatarsal joint and so on. Look for top tier shoes and depending on budget current or last years version. I would count Alphafly, Vaporfly, Adios Pro, Endorphin Pro 3/Elite, Metaspeed Sky/Edge, Rocket X 2 (not 1), SC Elite 4 (not 1-3), Cloudboom Echo 3 (not 1,2) and Fast-R2 as top tier but that is up for debate.
I agree vehemently with @run-o-phil that everyone needs to go to a brick and mortar store to compare all these shoes on your feet, with your gait (most stores have a treadmill but many also allow you to run outside) at various paces. Reviews such as Kofuzi’s are extremely helpful in narrowing down the options, but ultimately our biomechanics are unique and varied and you will know very quickly which ones work for you-and more critically, which ones to eliminate from consideration. If you’re lucky to have an independent running store with a good selection of at least many of the options and a staff comprising real runners and shoe geeks, they will help you with sizing (which varies considerably not only between brands but in same models year to year) and they will accept returns if a shoe doesn’t work out for you. Finally, my favorite such store gives me a sizable “club”/loyalty discount which is particularly significant on these high-priced super shoes. But again, the main point: try them on for yourself.
Couldn’t tell you … the thing is our salary are pretty much on par with the usa so more expensive of course … but it is what it is to me its the price that supershoes are … vaporfly 3 339.99$ … c’oudboom echo 3 369.99$ …
I get that a lot from comments on RU-vid. i'm not sure the similarities are as prominent irl, but maybe I'm just hypersensitive to whatever I think looks like low poly art (which I love) and things that are just angular
It may look a little like it but certainly does not run like it - btw they should focus on their own and not try to copy off of top proven marathon shoes - yes there is a little borrowing that always goes on but be your own and not someone else's shoe.
Great take. I def think this will be a great racing shoe for those who like you said, have their form struggle near the latter part of a race. A lot of racing shoes are very unforgiving when your form starts to deteriorate.
Love your reviews Kufuzi. 💕 Hopefully you will have a shoe giveaways for your fans/subscribers, grealtly appreciated like me who loves running but no budget for a shoe. Thank you 😊
Great review! Matches pretty closely to what I felt in my first run in the V4 today. These will be replacing the V3s as my race shoe. I think the V3 feels more comfortable at slower paces but the V4 really wakes up for me at faster paces.
How the brands aren't paying? If you you get to keep the shoe that means they are paying you. You have 2 options either you can sell it & make money or you keep it & you just got a 250 dollar shoe for free. Not mentioning such simple thing is like not telling the entire truth & half truths are worse than full lies.
Hi. You must be new here. Thanks for taking the time to check out the channel. . When I say no one is paying, no one is paying cash. I return everything whenever a brand wants a product back. Once I complete my 100 mile update, the brands never want the shoes back. A guaranteed way to get brands to stop working with you is to sell product that you received for testing. When I tell you how I got a shoe, I’m not saying there is no potential for bias. Rather, I’m saying quite the opposite. That’s why I’m telling you how the shoe came to me and whether any monies were exchanged. You can do with this information what you wish. I just hope that you will apply the same rigors in your analysis when evaluating the content of those who provide no disclosures for their reviews
