I love all the new features they added, and it does mostly still keep that minimalist aesthetic. The lower battery life is a bummer, but USB C is a really nice addition. I have a couple bikes and wanted to be able to switch between my original Moto and the new Moto II - BUT this is not easy for two reasons. First, the app only allows you to have one Moto paired at a time; unpairing and repairing isn't exactly hard, but it is a minor pain. Second, the mounts... they sell an insert adapter to allow you to use the Moto II on an OG Moto mount, but the adapter attaches to the mount, not the Moto - so it means unscrewing, removing, reattaching, etc. every time you want to switch. Again, not exactly hard, but a minor pain, and enough that I'll probably just sell the original. I also found that the universal mount has some little security points on the clips where the elastic straps fit in. The good news is, they are probably deliberately there to help keep the straps better secured. The bad news is, they're really tight, and I snapped a band trying to fit it in.
Hey, we are close to launching a new feature which will allow you to connect multiple devices at once, meaning you wont have to unpair repair etc. As for the security tabs on the universal mount, your right, they are intentionally tight, this is designed like this so that when your mounting it the bands wont fly off if you let go. Hope this helps!
Do I still need to pay a monthly subscription to hear turn by turn directions or get notified of an upcoming turn like with the original Beeline Moto? That's my biggest issue with the first model (other than the expensive buy in price that we have in the States). It's a shame, since the new one really looks like a much more polished product that's easier to use, but I guess that's what the $5 a month subscription helped fund.
Hi, the audio beeps which will play through any headphones or comms you have connected to your device come as standard but full audio turn-by-turn directions are a Beeline Plus feature, the only reason for this is because as someone mentioned, this is a service which costs us to use. Hope this helps!
i got my gf this one after seeing your videos on the previous gen. as stated most downsides seem handled. cant wait to slap it on and see live how it goes.
Looks amazing, they addressed the issues I had with my Beeline, one thing that just scares me is that USB-C at the bottom being open to the elements, not sure what it will look like after a year of use. I had the premium mount and after 6 months of use, pitting was starting to appear on the aluminium, not the best finish the did. But that just my thoughts
I use my phone as a sat nav in all weather conditions and the USB port for that, on the bottom, is still fine after 2 years. I would expect this one to also be able to handle it.
Hi, dont worry, the USB-C port is designed to be outside and withstand the weather. We have done extensive water and salt tests on the port and haven't had any issues so it should last a long time :)
My main gripe is the route creation. Fun is just a less direct route to the nearest dual carriageway. It would be good to be able to cycle through various Fun routes until you find one you like the look of.
Nice idea! We'll pass that on to our routing team!
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@@ridebeeline My biggest gripe with the route creation is that you cannot modify routes on the fly by adding waypoints. Like most of the time I will know where I am gonna end up but not the way there, especially if on a roadtrip so I will start the day with a goal try to put in a fun route. But if i find the road i picked was boring or simply find something on the way I want to visit there is no way to just add a new waypoint without cancelling the whole route which is incredibly inconvenient.
I believed they fixed that in a newer version of the software/ app. Now, if you saved the route (which you should always do, before you start riding it), you can easily stop the one you are riding and go to the route again and add whatever waypoints you want to it and restart the route navigation. It will ask you if you want to start from where you are at and you press yes and off you go.
You can add distance to a fun route now. DId you see that newer feature? So, fun will still be fairly direct. If you go to "generate", and add KMs, it will cycle through some optional routes and depending on how much farther you wish to ride, it will offer you a different route. Pretty cool. Also, if you select "avoid highways" under Options-> Route preferences, you normally would avoid getting on dual carriageways.
I believe that this was originally made for bicycling and then adapted for motorcycles. I bought the beeline moto 3 yrs ago because my cell service for Waze and Google maps would continually lose the cell signal when I was riding trails and even in downtown city driving. But because the Beeline uses the GPS signal on your cell, it is always reliable. But anyone who is using a beeline on the interstate is crazy, since you need precise Information on when to start getting ready to exit.
I don’t want a full nav device or a CarPlay device, nor do I want my phone anywhere but in my pocket while I’m riding - all either too big and too much of a distraction. I have the original Moto and my Moto II should arrive before the end of the month, looking forward to giving it a go 👍
Finally got mine a couple weeks ago and used it this past weekend. The metal ones took a while to get to the U.S. Big upgrade from the original. Only thing is I'd like to be able to have the old and new beelines paired to the app, that way I could have the old on another bike.
I really hope they can come with and ball mount since the bikes I want this on are mainly with clip ons, and this will be great if I can stick it on the stem.
I've been using the new version for a couple of months now. No lag or issues whatsoever. The only downside I found is that some junctions can be very tricky due to the small screen, especially if they're pretty narrow. For what concerns route planning, I prefer using Google maps and then importing the route on the Beeline app, which I found less precise at the moment.
I’ve been rocking my BeeLine 2 metal for a couple of weeks now. It works so well and its simplicity is what makes it standout. The 1 was pretty good but this 2 is hands down a worthwhile upgrade. BUT, I hate the subscription model (no it’s not required) but for simple turn by turn audio cues, charging for that is pretty lame IMO. There’s a bit more than comes with the sub but I don’t think it’s cool to pass along that feature set cost to the customer.
you can now mark the roads as good and bad, long press on the right for good, left for bad, you then get a red or green icon on the heatmap and the journey.
Been using mine for a month and love it. Coming from the beeline 1 which was great but the map and larger screen are very welcome. Would like it to be able to pick up diversions as it’s using the phone would be good if it can spot temporary diversions especially in city centres but apart from that it’s a keeper for me.
I think they just needed to let you choose what you wanted to display. I wanted to see distance to next turn and the big arrow to tell me left, right, or straight relative to that turn. I mostly like GPS to warn me of traffic jams so both fail at that.
I have both versions. Beeline Moto II works better for a big city. Original Beeline Moto works good on smaller roads. Can't say which version I like more. Moto II works good on a bicycle for me in a city I don't familiar with. I like a simplicity of ver. 1. And I don't like new USB type-c charging port. Beeline Moto I was perfect companion in Portugal. I use version II more in Sweden.
Would love to see more in depth review. The app and especially the turn by turn audio direction samples from beeline plus. Navigation without audio is really dangerous.
Hi John, as long as you have a conventional phone signal it will reroute you back to your route :) If you are out of phone service/ in aeroplane mode it will reroute you back to where you left your planned route.
I ride in Thailand/Cambodia and Beeline App map/route loading was glitchy and not accurate most of the time on Gen1. I have no idea what map source was used in the app but I hope they improved it. Also, my Gen1 charging base copper contacts wore over time and failed to connect to the device to charge it. Glad to see the USB-C. Got Gen 2 on order.
I live in Malaysia, and was considering this as my GPS guide for a fun trip from Kuala Lumpur to the Mae Hong Son loop in northern Thailand. If the maps glitchy in Thailand that's a deal breaker.
@@vishnunair2823 It was for me as well. I got lost and re-re-directed many times to routes/roads that didn't exist and gave conflicting turns that would have me back track multiple times in the same area. The Beeline app map was really finicky and would not be able to route to many common locations unlike Google or Waze that worked fine in Thailand. I ditched the Beeline and had to use my phone's nav but the phone would quickly overheat and shut down. So my last effort was to install a bulky all-weather tablet with DMD2 and use it as a nav system. Wanting to like this product, let's see if the Beeline 2 got this improved.
Why not mount your Apple or Samsung watch on the handlebars instead of using this device? I'd think Apple and Google Maps navigation would be better than Beeline's app and you wouldn't have to spend an extra $220 if you already have a watch.
Hey! Like the device itself we've taken on a lot of feedback about the mounts for the original moto and have updated them to make them more robust and easier to use. However, we know a lot of people still love and use their OG mounts so we have made an insert adapter so Moto II users can still use their original moto mounts.
My biggest issue with the first generation was the speed of the direction updates, or the lack there-of. More often than not, directions indicating an upcoming turn would not display on the Beeline until I was halfway through an intersection, negating any usefulness of the directional indication and more often than not causing me to turn around. This increasingly caused somewhat dangerous confusion on my rides. Has the second generation improved on the speed of the directions or improved on the communication between the phone and the device?
@@ridebeeline that’s excellent to hear! I’m a backer of the Moto II, got it last week, and will be using it for the first time in a few days. I’m quite excited!
Hi Could you explain how you can use this with the calimoto app? As I saw, both are sonsors of yours. Which or what do you use more? What can be used together?
Hey, if you like you can plan a route in Calimoto, export the GPX file and import it into the Beeline app. You will then have your Calimoto route on your Moto II.
@@ridebeeline I had a ticket open with Beeline about route imports. You give the impression that waypoints come over with a gpx, but all you get is a track with no waypoints showing. I exported routes from MyRouteApp, Google and Calimoto, all just imported the track. Beeline asked me how support was, I told them you hadn't actually replied and just closed the ticket.
You can still use the old compass/symbol-based user interface if you would like. When planning the ride in the app you will see 'compass' on the right-hand side, if you select this the Moto II will display your route in the same way as the original moto.
Most motorcycles have now a simplified guiding based on a Google map app, but this is not at all what we need. Is it AA compatible? No? Thanks but no thanks...
Beeline have been very clear about shipping dates and that they’ve got a backlog that they’re working through. It couldn’t have been clearer on their website so you shouldn’t have ordered if you were going to be unhappy waiting. Sounds like you, like me are in batch 2, which they’ve said will be shipping in the next few weeks
@@hagnbike I got an email from Beeline in mid-June that said July, and a further email on July 4th saying they expect to be shipping batch 2 week commencing 22nd July. Early July was never promised
Honestly what is the point of this device? Its a worse version of a phone in every way thats mounted to your handle bars. Youd be better off mounting a Galaxy Watch 4/5/6 Classic to your handle bars and having G Maps, calls, music, bluetooth etc all in one with a more legible and universally understood UI while being waterproof as well with just as long a battery life while not having to pay for the app sub etc.
Hey, absolutely you can and lots of people prefer to navigate in this way, which is totally fair enough. However, lots many riders like to keep their handlebars uncluttered, be away from the distractions of their phone and enjoy the aesthetic of the Moto devices.
@@ridebeeline Thanks for the response :) Agreed, aesthetically it is superior and that works for some people. I do feel like the price vs functionality does make it a bit of a neiche device for a puresit though. Good luck with the product and thanks for the reply!
@@DarkRiderMotovlogs I love the looks of this device and how it actually fits so well on my CB1000R. That's why I have the version 1 and why I'll be getting a version 2. I have a naked bike and wish for that "naked" aesthetic to be upheld. And, I know of a lot of other naked bike owners, who think the same way.
It's meant to provide a minimalistic experience, and allow you to not have your phone out strapped to your bars. For me personally, that's great and exactly what I want - especially after having had a mount fail once and watching my phone nearly tumble to the ground while riding. It's not for everyone though, so you do you.
Yes, how dare he try to earn a living from a channel he's been building for years. He disclosed at the beginning that Beeline is a channel sponsor. So what if this video is an ad, I'd rather watch this informed opinion ad than the lifestyle tripe manufacturers' ads. I expect on your channel, everything is unbiased and free but we're not all that perfect.
@@scottamolinari its not derogatory its dissapointing and saddening, channel had potential in the past, i wish it would improbe back to its former state
