@@Jeagles Ah right.. well, I am always happy to get new trains (I currently go into the city around midday from Richmond so it's almost always a 455), even if it is better late than never. Although I'm not a fan of the ironing board seats that seem to be popular these days.. Air conditioning will definitely be very appreciated come the summer though. On one hand, the old trains are very nostalgic - it's such a historic electric railway just in general, and then to use trains still trooping away 40 years on, before getting on the bakerloo line which feels like even more of a heritage railway these days.. but on the other hand, such a well used system does deserve something a bit more cutting edge.