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Does anyone know how it interacts with attrition orbs? Technically it should take 5-6 hits based on the perk description since 1 ammo fires a 3 shot burst, compared to pulses where 3 ammo is a 3 shot burst.
Honestly, I just used an adept with Rewind and Firing Line, Veist, and am...shocked how mediocre it is vs what RU-vidrs are saying. I used it on the Witness and was shocked that after 1 phase I had barely 1.5m damage. Takes like 3 or 4 bursts to kill a subjigator. Solid "eh, it's fine" Linear to me. I get similar numbers from Doomed Petitioner and Stormchaser.
Is it better than whisper or still hunt? Because my philosophy is if it doesn’t do more than whisper, there really isn’t a scenario in the game you should use this right? If linear fusions get a nice buff that changes things but right now why farm for a weapon that is the best of the worst heavy weapon class?
Envious is good if you're on ad clear, rewind is better if you're doing mechanics, if you can get both on the gun then hey presto you've got a solid roll, don't use backup mag on this weapon it's not worth it.
The whole "Envious vs Rewind" debate is so dumb. The real answer to that question is ALH. How long does BnS last? 7 Bursts, oh look at that the gun has 7 bullets in the mag. Once you reproc BnS ALH reloaded the gun for you. Why are people making this so complicated?
i love my enhanced battery, rewind and b&s roll, i think have a mag perk increasing mag size is better than accelerated coil, since adept charge time mod does not decrease damage
Increasing your mag size via Backup Mag lowers base reserves. However, increasing your mag size via Enhanced Battery doesn't negatively effect reserves.
Backup mag is bugged right now, its not supposed to reduce your reserves. It also seems to be doing it on certain weapons, which this linear is one of them.
yes its worth it, bait and switch with rewind rounds is often best surrounded with rewind is also great firing line is the easiest of the three and still pretty good get enhanced battery, liquid coils is also great (for people who dont have the time to watch) Edit: also now is the best time to farm, double loot and xp, just get some warlocks with getaway build and outbreak to speedrun
I think autoloading is sort of underated because of the ability to proc cascade point in 1 shot. This way you can pair it with a cascade super cluster or Volta bracket depending on the range and drastically improve the DPS because linears suck. Even with enhanced surrounded enhanced rewind, the most I could deal to Rathil was 1.45 mil with surges, radiant and no debuff. With using the slug shotgun in combination, I was doing 1.63 mil. This is ofc way behind a GL mag dump and for total DMG it was only a little better. Something like parasite+song of flame+Cartesian, I was doing 2.4mil. and ofc that has leagues better total reserves DMG. Suppose for like the witness where you have a 45 second phase and I'm not sure if parasite reaches the boss consistently, and even then obviously no worms hunger, however with me missing some shots on rathil, I'd imagine on a static target like witness this is pretty good.
I got to 7 shots with Ionized Battery and Backup Mag, running ALH and BnS. I got such a good roll but wound up with Ionized or Liquid Coils in the battery column :/ can’t figure out what to use. I think the play will be Ionized + Adept Reload, I have a reload masterwork so I can cover the -20 reload that way and still have 6 in the mag.
Still trying to get an Rewind/B&S …got a lot of attrition orbs and Hatchling😭. The got an AutoLoading Reservoir Burst that will be great for general play/champions when Strand surge is active.
I understand the appeal of the synergy between Cornered and Surrounded, but wouldn't Rewind (or Envious or ALH) be a better pairing? Wouldn't you want a bigger mag/less reload over a faster charge time? I had Cornered / Surrounded and sharded it, and I'm hanging onto one that pairs Envious and Slice with Surrounded (I suppose if you got Envious and Cornered as your two options on an adept, you have best of both worlds?).
I personally just don’t find this weapon all that great even the adept. The shot is slow and low dps and that maxed out with faster charge rate. Linears need a whole rework.
2:40 Warden can still be crit if you're shooting its core when it's opened up like that. The eye isn't the crit spot, the core is. Thought I'd share for anyone reading this
Best roll without question is rewind+bns. Envious overflowed portion of the mag doesn’t work with veist and 99.9% of the time you’ll never need to reload with rewind+veist so there’s no reason to go through the hassle of trying to proc envious
I got the rewind bait n switch early and kept farming for material and ended up getting all the great secondary rolls. Cornered and surrounded has my attention for sure.
The first guy who tells the truth envious is just better in 99% of the content in the game. Some RU-vidrs say „but it requires set up“, you literally kill enemies all the time like what kind of set up are they talking about. There is no single boss fight I struggled so far getting my extra shots in.
A prominent example was mentioned in the video, if you're one of the mechanics people in e5 Salvation's edge, you don't get much time to build it, if at all. I was running an env. gun with the witness and that perk at most gives you like 1-2 extra shots at most when everyone's doing their job. Meanwhile, something like reconstruction just fills you to 200% mag size for basically free. Is it still worth having an envious assassin roll? Yeah. But there ARE downsides to any perk with an activation requirement.
Honestly Veist stinger being on a heavy burst LFR is what makes this weapon. Rewind isn't the end all roll. It's just another option. If we're talking about Firing Line I'd argue Rewind is the best choice but when talking about BnS and the 10-11 second timer you need to reactivate with ontop of any Izy or Still hunt swaps you're doing, you'll almost never benefit from Rewind over ALH or even Envious Assassin. So for BnS I'd say the best pairs are ALH and EA with Rewind pretty much equal but not necessary. For Firing Line or Surrounded though I would go Rewind with maybe EA as a second option. But really I just want to see a direct comparison with ALH vs Rewind both with Veist stinger and see how each holds up in the BnS swap. My own tests show ALH has the same up time as Rewind assuming Veist procs at least once a mag (which in 80-90% of the times it does) but I'd love to see someone do a more detailed breakdown of it.
@@Saffimaru if your lucky. And if you get enough kills to proc envious twice. Or you could just use rewind and have 0 set up and just hold the trigger down and blow your entire load. When 1 requires setup and 1 doesnt i think the one not requiring setup wins every time
@@Saffimaru both cross and ehroar have said more often than not you will get all of them off and unless your extremely unlucky then you wont. And it requires 0 set up
DON'T use Ionized Battery with Backup Mag. DO use Enhanced Battery with Adept Mag. You will get 7 in the mag without losing the 20 reload speed which could make a difference in the rare case you need to reload during damage.
Don't use adept mag either. Only use Enhanced Battery and thats it. Enhanced Battery gives you 6 in the mag without affecting reserves while everything else does (for whatever reason).