NEW DEATH KNIGHT CLASS!! | March of the Lich King Review #01 

Omg yeah thats where I remember it from

I was waiting for it and I smiled when it was predicted from so long ago

Holy shit you're right

I mean, it's pretty obvious. I know several people who had something similar or the same in their own DK theorycraft (I even played with the idea myself, except I didn't have die at the end of the turn). There are only so many ways to make a hero power since they tend to emulate 0 cost cards and that doesn't have a lot of room in budget to do interesting things. Like we saw DH have to break the mold and have a 1 mana hero power, creating new space. We are very close to tapped out for possible 2 mana cost hero powers, so I am curious what people have for their monk hero power actually...

@@Tinil0 I'm thinking 2 mana return a random friendly minion to your hand

I actually really hope the "rune" system (they could reflavor it or whatever) makes its way to the other classes for some cards too honestly.

While it is really cool, it’s pretty complicated and really out of flavor for the core game functions of hearthstone. A lot of new players are going to have a hell of a time trying to figure it out.

@@Noles4life77 Stagnation is how a game dies. It remains to be seen how well they can capitalise on the potential of this mechanic, but the core idea of runes is sound and there's no reason for it not to be in the game.

@@victoriarhode8948 I wish it had been there from the beginning honestly. Specializations were a thing in the WoW TCG that Hearthstone was based on, and I think it helped balance certain aspects of the game. Everybody got the opportunity to be “broken” because they could print the most powerful cards and lock them behind specific specializations. You can’t mix and match, so a Holy Priest can’t use Discipline or Shadow talents. I honestly wish a specialization system had been in place from the beginning, with Death Knights being the first who used 3 slivers of specialization instead of all or nothing. Kinda fits the DK class.

@@Noles4life77 It's perfectly fine for a game to have more complex classes that are harder for new players. Every fighting game includes characters that are easy to play and ones that are hard. If someone new to the game has a hard time with DK they've got every other class to play until they're ready, which will all be new to them, too.

I suspect it was partly a technical issue where they didn't want to add Undead until they had the ability to give a minion two tribes.

@@Watdee also quillboar were a bigger addition to battlegrounds than constructed.

@@evansaschow furthermore they aren't in standard at all

I was thinking the same thing!!

@@evansaschow only thing thta matters/mattered in standard with them really is n'zoth god of the deep

I wonder if you could have a taunt minion with more hp than your hero and they just bypass it and kill face

@@devilsblade2543 It would bypass the Taunt. Taunt only stops targeted attacks, not random attacks.

@@MysteryMan16 taunt stops manually targeted attacks*

I would love to see a "deckbuilding effect" like Renathal that reads if your deck has no duplicates you get more rune slots, so we can play around with all (or close to it) death knight cards in one deck in a restricted way since they are obviously not meant to be played together but with no duplicates I think it can be fine

Definitely feels like they're leading in with single-rune-type cards and keeping more complex combinations for future releases as a strategy to freshen things up.

@@BradGreer I hope so!!! I love the idea of different combinations of runes on cards. Could be really flavorful. Kind of like Magic the Gatherings colors. Different combos in cards

Wouldn't that technically just be runeless

@@dinothedinosaur69 A runeless card could still be added to a 3-blood, 3-unholy, or 3-frost deck. A tricolor card could not.

that system is legit just how deckbuilding works in Infinity Wars, though instead of just being a color choice kinda thing it's moreso like commander purity via the EDH format in Magic, but it is cool lol

Imagine you can build shadow priest, holy priest or both

And mage with arcane, frost and fire

seems fun but how in the hell is this gonna work in arena

@@laffecaffelott Best guess would be that they restrict the DK card pool to just 1-rune cards so that you can always have an option to pick from every type.

2 mana wolfrider pog

@@nicolarobatto7469 technically still 3 mana

He mentioned this at one point but not while talking about the +2 attack guy, which was certainly my most immediate thought when I saw the card.

I know it's a tall ask, but my biggest wish is that every class will eventually get a unique non-keyword mechanic like Death Knights do with corpses.

I just hope it will be better than priest's revamp lol

I'd love a "rune' system for each hero. Build some classes.

He's already going mad with value

He only wants to cast Vampiric Blood twice before playing Reno. That's mild.

@@Elias_Ehler THEMILDMAN

Unholy infuse? Fuuuuuck, that’s gonna be b r u t a l xD imagine getting to just… double up on all of your infuse cards.

All cars not out yet

I already have my deck in head,and very control heavy dk,with ability to boardwipe,heal,and to also include two devourers,denthrium,sylvanas,murlocula for more healing,and infusrd clown for res. generation.

I’ll be going triple unholy runes for the ultimate DK aggro deck!

@@ThallanarRabidtooth blood deffo here, cuz i hate aggro.

Asmooooncopppper storm

2 Frost 1 Unholy spec max Sire let's go!

Sadly, can't have death knights without the frost spec. It's a must.

@@ShamliseG true but they didn't have to build it around face damage

Why would you want every class to be full of deckbuilding restrictions? The freedom to put together a deck of your own instead of being railroaded into a build is one of the main attractions of card games. You can play a stealth Rogue without having to limit yourself to only Stealth Spec cards. You can create deck themes without having your arm twisted by a restriction to do so. Speccing in DK is interesting because it is unique. If it was everywhere, it would get real obnoxious real fast. It pushes designs that will lead to hefty power creep because if you're going to restrict yourself to a specific spec, you expect a reward more powerful than your generic good card. Else, why spec at all? The best card in DK should be standalone better than the best card in every other class because other classes can combine those cards with anything while DK can't. The end result will likely be that DK decks will wind up just stuffed to the brim with high spec requirement cards that are so powerful it blows everyone else out of the water. Deckbuilding restrictions often only end up mattering in the deckbuilding phase. Once you're playing the game, it doesn't matter what cards are NOT in your opponent's deck when the cards that ARE in there are all backbreaking.

@@lMarcusl MTG, the game that inspired Hearthstone, uses a spec system since its inception and it makes the game much more interesting than Hearthstone because you can't just pick the best cards your class has, you have to decide which ones you want and spec your deck that way. DK is at a huge disadvantage compared to other classes. Their triple spec cards need to be op in order to compete, because other classes can combine every op card they have into one deck, which by the way is very boring and mindless. Restricting access via a spec system forces you to make decisions, and decisions are fun. There is another advantage as well. Since it divides classes into sub-classes, you need less cards in your collection to compete, since you won't need 3 class legendaries in order to compete, as your spec won't allow all of them.

@@ninototo1 Well, conversely you might also really need a chunky DK collection cause if you have just a bit of all the various specs, you don't potentially have enough ammo to build any of the specs into a reasonably decent deck. If your collection is leaning in the wrong way, like you have a triple Blood legendary but none of the good Blood cards, you're boned. The comparison to MtG is not quite appropriate I think because while yes, you do technically "spec" your deck in MtG, you're also not restricted by class in MtG. You have access to the entire range of existing cards to "spec" into and get to choose which ones are worth the investment and which are not. In Hearthstone, your speccing is restricted entirely to a very small subset of cards: DK cards. Neutrals offer some more variety but are generally not the workhorses of any deck so those are more of a filler, and all the cards for other classes are unavailable to you. If DK is to have 3 dedicated triple rune specs plus X number of hybrids, you have to be able to assemble all of that from just the 50-something cards the class has access to. Every expansion will be adding some 8 new class cards and those 8 cards, split into 3 different specs, potentially lead to a dedicated Frost spec deck getting like 2 cards it can even consider per expansion. The spec restriction will likely lead to a lot problems down the road, between railroading and limited influx of new cards, I'm not sure it's even something worth the benefits it brings. I would definitely not want to see this implemented anywhere outside of the DH class.

If you want clever deckbuilding and agency just play a different game, this is just a cosplay

@@ninototo1 can't work unless there are more cards available to choose from. MTG actually supports that argument.

What got fixed?

@@sev5032 the last 4 minutes of the video

There was some cutting error in the end where you could hear two different clips at the same time

The legend of the Bitch King.

The less we see of sylvanas the better.

Yeah having "specs" is kinda dope

would be too much effort to do it for all the other classes

Corpses are confirmed to only be a death knight mechanic and other classes cannot randomly generate cards that require corpses to be played

@@javyz6197 It's also nice that the enemies can't make good use of them when they steal corpse cards

I've seen a lot of doomsaying regarding Patchwerk, but I reckon it's no better than Mutanus and Theotar. Mutanus is good because it's often a big tempo swing as well as disruption, and Theotar is good because it gives you a lot of control in which card to take; Patchwerk does neither. It'll see play, but I don't think it'll be the backbreaking menace that people make it out to be.

@@nopenope6150 how is destroying a minion and summoning a 4/6 not tempo swing?

@@nopenope6150 It isn’t a big threat, no, at 4/6. But deleting three of the opponents minions from their deck/hand/battlefield? That is gonna be nuts for control match ups. Killing a minion the battlefield helps to gain some board control, then hitting a minion in hand (which for some decks can only be a handful of things in the late game), and as a bonus deleting one from the deck? It’s not gonna win you the game every time. Some decks won’t give a shit. But for people running Druid with Bran + delete your entire health because you have infused dude? That’s the deck I want to be countered. I use Mutanus and 5 mana swap guy just to counter that one minion. Other than some other creative decks that catch me off guard, that’s what I lose to because you can’t get your life above 80. The only way to beat that deck is to rush them down (which i never do since I’ve played control since Beta).

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Probably makes a 2/2 instead of 1/1

@@seank5358 or!!! It loses the "It dies at the end of the turn" OR it mirrors paladin and summons TWO

@@christopherbronson3275 I don't think the former is a buff, since DK wants them to die. I think summoning 2 is the best upgrade

so true. maybe dk will get something like reindeer breath to compensate

why not hero power and trade? same effect and you keep the card! Still a very strong card indeed.

Because blood cards have health effects. And Obliterate has one.

O reallly hope so

People will always meta game and use the one set that pros say is "optimal". In truth you can easily beat them by countering their "optimal" decks and even if pros come up with them, there will be other good options. But sadly most people mindlessly copy the pros so eventually you will run into the same 3 decks forever. Hearthstone is sooo much more fun if everyone has a different deck though.

Until everyone spams it lol

Yes that’s confirmed