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NEW EG4 Chargeverter - 48V 100A Battery Charger | 5120W Output and 240/120V Capability.

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Deriving technology from the EG4 3kW All-in-One Solar Inverter, the EG4 Chargeverter is a powerful 48v battery charger capable of charging at 100 amps or over 5000 watts.
100A max charging current for quick charging rates - adjustable from 0A-100A.
-Capable of charging a 5.12kWh battery in ~1 hour
-Recommended charging current: 30A per battery to maintain battery lifespan.
Optimal for use with a generator. Plug directly into a generator to charge batteries without power quality issues (dirty power).
- Inverters typically allow input from a generator as a backup power source. However, budget generators can output “dirty power” or an unreliable sine wave to the inverter, affecting the inverter’s ability to provide consistent power.
To solve this, simply plug the EG4 Chargeverter directly into a generator to charge batteries without power quality issues!
Battery Voltage: 48V nominal.
240VAC or 120V input capabilities (120V configuration requires cable adapter, not included)
Built-in breaker for added protection

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@CountryLivingExperience Год назад

Great video y'all!

@WillProwse Год назад

I love it. I need one.

@Off_Grid_Ontario Год назад

We need a review from you!

@Off_Grid_Ontario Год назад

There should be a setting in the 6500 to just have the generator use the charging aspect without running power to the house.

@awrosemba Год назад

Would love to know when this would actually be needed…from you, Will.

@browsedeweb8834 Год назад

@@awrosemba I can see a use for this. In my case, I have a 4-ton HVAC unit that draws a large inrush current upon startup. My 12k AIO battery inverter can handle this, but my 7kW Honda inverter generator can't...even with a soft start on the HVAC condensing unit. If I connected the generator normally, it would be powering my loads and also charging the batteries but I'd never be able to have air conditioning during this time. By having the generator powering the batteries directly using this chargeverter, the inverter and batteries would continue to power the loads and handle the large inrush spikes while the generator sends it's power to the batteries. As long as the average power being used by the loads is less than what the generator is putting out, the batteries will charge up.

@JPHER217 Год назад

Indeed bring it

@patrickcoyne1292 Год назад

i ordered it on the 20th of january. i can’t wait 😂 i’ve been running the 18v charger and it takes all day to charge my bank. cant wait to charge my bank in like a couple hours

@Vigo327 Год назад

This a very well presented video. Nice work getting the important information across in a concise way.

@JLTPhotog Год назад

Have mine on pre-order and looking forward to it. My generator is undersized for my system but perfectly sized for this unit, so this will save me from needing to upgrade my generator. Have been considering building my own DC generator to do what this will allow me to do without fuss. I hope they ship soon.

@AlAndValOffGrid Год назад

Been using mine for a while now. Saved my bacon more than a few times, and saves me a TON of money running my generator to charge up my stack. It cut my fuel costs by about 75% when I have to run the generator during extended rain/snow days. I was using the 18v unit for a while prior to getting this unit, and it was worth every penny.

@eg4electronics Год назад

That's good to hear!

@basspig Год назад

I was looking for something like this for a whole year for those long strings of heavy rainy days in December and january.

@gf2e Год назад

You mention that voltage collapse is the leading cause of inverter failure. And that it’s not covered by warranty. Searching your web site, the only time I see “voltage collapse” talked about is the blog post for this product. Is it documented elsewhere? It seems like something important to make sure your customers know about! From a technical standpoint, I’m also really curious to know if the Chargeverter is also susceptible to the problem or if it’s limited to the charging circuitry inside of inverters. What would an out of warranty repair on an EHC3000-48 cost if it was damaged due to voltage collapse?

@dangoras9152 Год назад

What happens when theres no solar ... When theres no solar my inverter switches to generator..

@tjmooney4181 Год назад

Which adapter do I need to use my 120v generator? I have an eu2000 Honda generator

@rickinge7682 5 месяцев назад

Please do a video on how to use a 120v30amp setup

@chrisfree2000 Год назад

I ordered mine couple days, waiting on shipment!!

@mentalarson 11 месяцев назад

I purchased on 6/6/23. I finally tried to hook it up 2 weeks ago, but it didn't charge. I confirmed AC to the unit from a 4KW 120V generator. I have it set to to a low amperage for testing. It's wired to the bus bar that ties 12 EG4 batteries to my inverters. My entire system is working fine. I contacted tech support, but Tristan C. responded with an insane info/photo request that would take me a couple hours to compile along with some comments about my small generator, as if that's relevant. I've seen elsewhere that the modules inside sometimes come lose in shipping. Is that a good place to start troubleshooting? The display doesn't turn on until the DC breaker is flipped if that's relevant.

@GrowingUpGoudie Год назад

If this had a time set it would be even better. Set the time to start and stop charging based on time of day. Would open it up to the non solar market for peak shaving systems.

@jamesshowalter6362 Год назад

You can use the generator relay on the inverters to control this

@Gurusi Год назад

@@jamesshowalter6362 so use the existing inverter relay when it calls for AC/grid power? Will it continue run the generator when it doesn’t receive any current from the AC in?

@stargazer7644 8 месяцев назад

3:08 Generators don't "push" current.

@longtimber1 Год назад

A big advantage is EMP protection/isolation from the grid! The Inverter electronics are not exposed to destruction from the Grid Antenna.

@TheFatman819 Год назад

It doesn’t work quite that way, thin it would be fried. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse

@Off-Grid 9 месяцев назад

Can it be hooked to AGM Batteries?

@jtr82369 Год назад

Yeeeessss I need, this will help me so much

@bill2292 Год назад

Does it come in blue?

@krom6017 6 месяцев назад

Most generators are 30amps on the 240v side, could you tell us what this correlates to on the DC side? So let's say I want to run my generator at 80%, 24 amps what would you set that to on the dc side? Thank you

@basspig Год назад

When I ordered mine on April 23, the estimated arrival date was May 14-16. My order status still says 'backordered". I am wondering how so many folks managed to obtain these units when they're not even shipping yet.

@Przedzik 7 месяцев назад

Can this charger be used in Europe on single phase 230v ? Regards Marek

@JasonEmanuel Год назад

This looks great but the documented max charge voltage (57 vdc) is too low for my lion pack. I need to hit 58.8. Is there a way to unlock higher max charging voltages? Thanks!

@AndreAngelantoni Год назад

Definitely buying this. Do folks have a recommendation for a "perfect" generator to pair with this? I'm in Mexico in Baja California Sur and we have hurricanes that mean no sun for many days in a row.

@AlAndValOffGrid Год назад

I'd recommend a Champion Dual Fuel (runs on propane, which will be considerably cheaper and easier (and you can stock up on some 40 lb tanks that will last you a few weeks to a few months). I have the 10,000 / 8,000 watt unit that I purchased on sale for $999 and it is very capable. It has plenty of outlets for both 120/240 and has the required outlet for this Chargeverter.

@dennisbradystudios Год назад

Sweet, my only problem is a have a 6 battery bank of 24v EG4-LL's Will there be a 24v version, I hope?

@sspyder181 Год назад

Very handy 👌

@jrazzarelli Год назад

It is not clear, and nowhere in the micro-manual, what voltage to set for the LifePower4. 48v or 51.2v or ? Please clarify.

@leen.3785 Год назад

55.5V would be your best bet or you could bump it to 56.5

@johnheiss9954 Год назад

It should be possible to use this with any 4 x 12V series 48V LiFePO4 battery system correct?

@emi123nem Год назад

So do I need this even if I have a inverter generator or can I just set the charge amperage directly on the all in one EG4 inverter ? I don't need much running wattage or large appliances for my cabin so I just wanna use a 3500/4500 or a 4500/5500 inverter gen to supplement solar

@marek8928 11 месяцев назад

Will this EG4 Chargeverter work with the 120V / 400Hz generator?

@Darren-C 4 месяца назад

I’m looking for a versatile option of charging 120 and 240 from the grid when available with an adapter on a smaller 10kWh battery bank taking into account max amperage on a 120 system. Is a lighter 120 charge supported by this charger? My 6000xp can’t do it from what I’m aware of

@eg4electronics 4 месяца назад

The ChargeVerter does work on 120V circuits if you have an adapter for the 240V twist lock plug, but the maximum output will be lower. The plug pinouts for the adapter can be found in the manual.

@BigKens Год назад

This is very cool! I’m quite new to this - what setups is this best suited to? Does this still make sense if your inverter already supports charging batteries from the grid or a generator (eg. SolArk 12/15k)?

@designdepartment841 Год назад

This unit makes more sense for scenarios where your generator us undersized and your inverter does not have the ability to adjust AC-input amperage draw. If your inverter is already giving you the capability of adjusting the AC-input draw for undersized generators, there wouldn't be much of a need for this unit realistically. Some folks also simply don't like the idea of sending power from their generator through their inverter system - this unit allows you to bypass everything and go straight to your battery bank.

@BigKens Год назад

@@designdepartment841 That makes sense - thanks very much!

@michaelshin69 Год назад

Please specify the ground neutral condition of the generator. Floating neutral ok?

@jamesshowalter6362 Год назад

It doesn’t use a neutral

@NeverTakeNoShortcuts Год назад

Needs a Wifi/remote control ....

@GG-sj2wg Год назад

So how does the charger communicate with the batteries and not overcharged them? I noticed you set the voltage to 56V and amperage to 66 Amps for a 48V battery bank and 7,000 watt continuous run generator. Does the charger turn on and off using the voltage level? If so isn’t 56V pretty high for a 48V battery? I have my unit but I don’t understand charge control logic. Thanks in advance.

@3rett115 Год назад

Agreed. I actually just plugged mine up and noticed the manual says nothing about what to set the voltage to. I have the EG4 batteries, and the bulk charge voltage (according to the manual) is 56.2v. So I set the chargeverter to 56. But like you, I am wondering. As the the batteries approach full, will this unit do any adjustments? Does it know when to shut off? I think EG4 should address this somehow.

@MikeGrayM70 Год назад

No communication is necessary. As the battery approaches the Voltage set on the charger, the Amps naturally reduce. Eventually, when charger and battery both match up at say, 56V, current will stop flowing. At that point you can shut off the generator. It will just be idling. I don't think this particular charger would shut off. It would just sit there at, or close to, 0 Amps. A LiFePO4 battery that is said to be 48V has an actual Voltage range of around 58.4V (full) to 40V (empty). Actual numbers will vary depending on who made the battery. 48V is where the battery spends a lot of its life. They call it the Nominal Voltage. Like a 12V car battery. Could be anywhere from 10V-14.5V, but 12V is nominal, so they call it that.

@ToddDesiato Год назад

When will it have UL Listing?

@mexossai7982 Год назад

Can somehwere point me to where and how I can connect this. Does the AC input come from my previous inverter? Or direct from generator. Any schematic on the best way to connect it to my inverter and battery system. Thanks

@eg4electronics Год назад

You power the unit directly from a Generator. Here is a link to the manual: eg4electronics.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Chargeverter-5kW-Manual_1.3.3.pdf

@chadwicks4631 Год назад

Would I need this if I have a couple eg4 6500 inverters for my system?

@jamesshowalter6362 Год назад

yes, if you are using a generator under 22kw

@Urge38 Год назад

This product is impossible to purchase here in the UK Can you gus at EG4 please reach out to me and send me one

@dexbad8857 Год назад

Does a generator makes your lights flicker? Do you need to change all your led lights just to make your generator ?

@jamesshowalter6362 Год назад

nope, if you use the chargeverter then there is no flicker, direct connection to gensets can cause flicker though

@tpike46w Год назад

I had a couple questions about this unit if you can answer them for me please. 1 can I be charging the batteries with this unit while the inverter is powering my off-grid cabin at the same time and 2 can this chargverter charge my batteries while pv is charge at the same time? Ty

@eg4electronics Год назад

1. Yes! As long as you don't exceed the battery's limits, you will be just fine. 2. Yes, as long as you don't supply the battery with more than its 100a maximum limit.

@mericasilverpatriot9110 Год назад

Does this work with FLA batteries?

@eg4electronics Год назад

The voltage parameters and charge curves are designed for use with only lithium batteries.

@brennan3141 Год назад

Does the charger work with the inverter’s genset starter dry contact ?

@eg4electronics Год назад

The charger doesn't have any direct input or means to connect to the inverter's dry contact.

@sharonferra111 Год назад

Do you need the 9000 generator to do the charging or will the 8750 work

@eg4electronics Год назад

As long as you select an amperage that works for your generator's specifications, you can use just about any size generator you have.

@longtimber1 Год назад

Will it take 415V DC ( PV input) input like a Meanwell HLG type A charger? ie. does it have a universal AC/DC input??

@jamesshowalter6362 Год назад

I wish, but no, just 240vac

@eg4electronics Год назад

The chargeverter only has the capability to take 240Vac (or 120V with the proper adapter) as a means to charge batteries. If you want to use high voltage solar strings to charge batteries, you may consider using one of our MPPTs instead!

@prestonreed416 Год назад

Good day Can this charger . Charge AGM batteries?

@eg4electronics Год назад

Hey! These chargers are only rated to charge lithium batteries.

@NeverTakeNoShortcuts Год назад

What size cable is the DC out?

@eg4electronics Год назад

1 AWG.

@patrickcoyne1292 Год назад

ok but how do you figure the amps based on what my generator can do..

@snyamathi Год назад

The spec sheet lists 54Vdc x 50A which is 2,700W though you can adjust the amps down. Factor in some inefficiency and that you probably don't want to run your generator over 75% of it's rated power. So you'd probably want like a generator rated for like 4,000 running watts to use the default 50A and would need something like a 8kw generator to max this out at 100A. As a quick rule of thumb, divide your generator running amps by 100 and that's what you might want to set the charger amps to.

@scottloo4118 Год назад

@@snyamathi so if my generator has 11k running watts I could run this at 100 amps and more than likely charge fairly quickly while consuming the energy to my house at the same time, correct?

@snyamathi Год назад

@@scottloo4118 Yeah the max output is 5120W so your generator would be more than capable of powering this unit at its full rating of 100A. However, do note that the manual says "Recommended 30A charging rate per battery to maintain battery lifespan and 85A total charging rate to reduce heat output of the unit." so you may not want to run it at max output anyway. I'm not well versed enough to comment on using this to charge while discharging, but I'd like to know this too. Charging can have more nuance with charging profiles, BMS communication, etc which goes beyond what I know currently. I don't see why you couldn't though.

@350pauli Год назад

Is it possible to order this in uk ?

@eg4electronics Год назад

While we are not currently partnered with any UK-based companies, please reach out to our distributors listed here: eg4electronics.com/distributors/

@350pauli Год назад

@@eg4electronics thanks for that I’m still interested but I have set up mine currently through the inverter at 20amps seems to be working though would probably be more efficient through your inverter … can you input this while running your existing solar and inverter ?

@pierofranchi7489 Год назад

Very misleading, you make NO discrimination between a inverter generator and an old-style dirty wave form generator, you have purposely avoided stating this so as to sell the need for your product, TUT TUT dont get me wrong, the product is good, but the information is misleading.

@leen.3785 Год назад

the entire point is that it does NOT matter what type as this will eat good or bad power from a generator and provide your bank with DC power

@awesomedee5421 Год назад

WARNING. Received mine DEAD ON ARRIVAL. Now they want me to only give me STORE CREDIT and some lame excuse that it is NOT COMPATIBLE WITH A 48V LFP RACK MOUNT BATTERY. AND THEY WANT A RESTOCKING FEE?!?! I just want a working unit. What a lame excuse they gave. NOT happy with Signature Solar and probably will not buy from them again.

@TheBarbecueShow Год назад

Be nice if people knew this before wasting money on your garbage products. Of course none of this information is in the manual provided with your EG4 inverters. No surprise as you don’t even provide the proper wires to even update the software on a EG4 inverter.

@leen.3785 Год назад

If you cant figure out the wire needed to upgrade the firmware you are not qualified to be installing their equipment