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EG4 Chargeverter GC 48 Volt 100 Amp Lithium Battery Charger - SOC Start & Stop- Generator Autostart 

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@outbackproduction5720
@outbackproduction5720 6 месяцев назад
Look like a great charger. I think the reason it didn't ramp up to 100 amps is because it was at about 5100 watts. 53.6v x 94.9a = 5086 watts. If the battery is down at 51volts you should see the 100amps. Great video, thanks.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
Yeah that’s what I thought as well. Will test at a lower SOC/voltage to see what it does. 👍
@jasongphillips
@jasongphillips 6 месяцев назад
beat me to it...
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
@@jasongphillips Yes that is what I meant in the video when speaking of the SOC needing to be tested lower. I should have been clear about the voltage correlation
@wesbutler8289
@wesbutler8289 6 месяцев назад
EG4 is moving things forward fast!
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
Indeed they are! 👍
@josephscooterdantoni5940
@josephscooterdantoni5940 Месяц назад
I just started on my solar journey. I am 70 years young. I like watching your videos. I recently purchased a chargeverter. I was wondering about the amp setting. I have the chargeverter connected to the grid on a 30 amp 240 volt breaker. I set the amps to 25 amps. Is this correct?
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt Месяц назад
No the amps are DC for the charger. So 21 AC amps should be around 5000 watts. So you can set to 100 amps DC. 👍
@josephscooterdantoni5940
@josephscooterdantoni5940 Месяц назад
Thanks
@puddlejumper06
@puddlejumper06 6 месяцев назад
Just received mine this week, also. Thanks for the video. Now, can you come to the NC mountains and hook everything up? 😂
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
I would if I could! Between work and my own projects I have my hands full lol. But this is stuff most people can do as you know. Has gotten much easier with all the DIY stuff on the market now
@jiminsav
@jiminsav 4 месяца назад
Rodney, I ordered one and will get it in July. Supposedly. I got 2 questions you might be able to answer. how much power does the unit use in stand-by, and what battery protocol does it use. I have Sungoldpower wall mount batteries, and the defalt for them is Pyrotech. but it is changeable to 4 other protocols.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 4 месяца назад
From what I have been told it only works with EG4 for communication. You should be able to use voltage for non eg4 batteries. Will need to do an update video on the power usage. Can’t remember
@colormaker5070
@colormaker5070 2 месяца назад
I just ordered one of these today. I started looking for install videos and Signature Solar posted one 2 weeks ago. There were a few comments on that video that the charger would cause the 6000xp to reset when the breaker is switched on? I like the generator auto start function and hope it works from voltage reference since SS says to use comms only if comms are not connected to 6000xp.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 2 месяца назад
Have not had that problem. But I have only 12 of 17 batteries communicating with inverters. Due to cable length. But I connected charger to a battery for SOC that was not connected to inverter so everything works fine that way for me
@northidahodreaming5657
@northidahodreaming5657 6 месяцев назад
Good video....I have the previous model Chargeverter. Good to see what changed. Question: do you have any concerns with your EG4 batteries on edge versus flat on a battery rack. I had understood that on edge would damage them...I sent an email to Signature Solar and they told me must be laying flat. enjoying your channel! thanks
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
No. Manual I thought said flat or up on end. I will verify but they should be fine in my opinion
@adamsisernik4556
@adamsisernik4556 4 часа назад
I have Basen Green 11.7kWh 51.2V LifePo4 battery. Is this charger OK for charging it from grid?
@SolarinStarke-kt2lm
@SolarinStarke-kt2lm 6 месяцев назад
Your 6000xp can do the same thing have you considered using a sub panel and moving your loads over there and just use grid input connection on the 6000 to set state of charge just like you are doing now without the Chargeverter. Thats what I did basically my ENTIRE house is a “critical loads” panel Thanks for the videos BAM!!
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
Unfortunately my grid power is not close enough to economically do that at this time. Plus I would need to move all loads in my main garage panel to another one so they could run off solar while having grid on. So for me at this time it is cheaper to run power to the chargeverter than 3 inverters. 👍
@matthewbradley8971
@matthewbradley8971 12 дней назад
I've read that the EG4 inverter will "reboot" when the Chargeverter first turns on. Something about it freaking out seeing the sudden in rush of current. This completely defeats the purpose imo. Can you confirm if this is the case with your 6000XP inverters?
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 11 дней назад
Maybe I can test again soon. Busy work month right now. But it didn’t do that before when I tested. Could be based on firmware on your system but will need to test
@GottaLoveGoats
@GottaLoveGoats 21 день назад
I just hooked up my chargeverter and set the amp output charge at 100 amps, however it won’t go above 25. Do you know why that is?? Thanks for the video!
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 21 день назад
What is your battery state of charge?
@GottaLoveGoats
@GottaLoveGoats 21 день назад
@@rodneyhunt it’s very low. Started at 35%. We have the power pro batteries and we just finalized installing the whole system so now trying to get each of the batteries up to 100% so we can parallel them together. Thanks!
@RussellHogan
@RussellHogan 5 месяцев назад
Awesome. I have the 48v SOK batteries. Do you think this will work with them? I intend to use grid power via the charge inverter to supplement my solar production when needed.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 5 месяцев назад
Not sure! Will ask EG4 and see.
@RussellHogan
@RussellHogan 5 месяцев назад
@@rodneyhunt Mahalo!!!
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 5 месяцев назад
The chargeverter only communicates with EG4 batteries. You can always use the voltage settings though since BMS communication is not possible.
@RussellHogan
@RussellHogan 5 месяцев назад
@@rodneyhunt Much appreciated!!!
@duanelinquist4244
@duanelinquist4244 6 месяцев назад
Having the 6000xp, was there any need for the charger? The 6000xp will charge batteries from solar, grid, or generator, with less $$$ and wires.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
Only if grid is close. Grid is in my garage so would need to run some serious wire from the garage to my power shed. Then will need to move all circuits from main grid panel to a new panel that is run only on solar. My setup is definitely different than most. Maybe one day I will run service to the inverters
@sentienthamster
@sentienthamster 5 месяцев назад
Love the soft start. Old version kills my propane generator. I have to lower the amps to 5 and click through the menu to slowly raise it. Seems like my only complaint has been remedied in this one.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 5 месяцев назад
Yes that is a nice feature!
@thirdnormalform
@thirdnormalform 20 дней назад
Is this chargeverter required if you have an inverter generator?
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 20 дней назад
Technically no, but you would need a large generator to charge and run loads at the same time.
@TMCequipment
@TMCequipment 4 месяца назад
Do you have to unhook your batteries from your inverter to be able yo charge them with this product?
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 4 месяца назад
No you can charge them while still connected. 👍
@Rock_Nemo
@Rock_Nemo 6 месяцев назад
So Rodney since you have it configured to charge your batteries as needed what is the idle consumption when its not charging.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
I have put not power on the chargeverter full time yet. I have some work moving main panel circuits to a new panel so the grid will only be used for charging. Will check it though to see and post it.
@roybeard6727
@roybeard6727 6 месяцев назад
Rodney, why use the chargeverter to charge your batteries, won't your inverters direct power back to your batteries to charge?
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
If you have grid input which I don’t. It would cost more to run power for all three inverters vs running power just for the chargeverter. Plus the smaller wires will be easier to deal with. My system is in a shed and my garage has main grid panel.
@roybeard6727
@roybeard6727 6 месяцев назад
also after hooking up both the 6000xp and the 18k which do you prefer and why? thanks Roy,enjoy your vids,trying to learn for my own future system
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
@@roybeard6727 I like both for the applications I use them for. The 18k does have some awesome features but I would need at least two of them to run my house off grid. They only have 12k output and the 3 6000xp’s of course have 18k combined output. But if money is no object the 18k.
@roybeard6727
@roybeard6727 6 месяцев назад
@@rodneyhuntyeah thats my only apprehension if i buy an 18k and need to expand,another 18k would be pricey
@jasongphillips
@jasongphillips 6 месяцев назад
Cargerverter comes in really handy with "dirty power".Like using a cheap generator for emergency charging of the batteries. The voltage, frequency and sine wave on that gen might be crappy you don't want to send that though your inverter potentially damaging it. If you are charging via grid power, probably not needed.
@MtJungle
@MtJungle 4 месяца назад
If connected to battery to run SOC, can you have solar assistant monitor the SOC at same time?
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 4 месяца назад
Probably but have not tried. I just use the EG4 monitor software
@fullsleevetats
@fullsleevetats 4 месяца назад
Weird science question: Could you use this with an adapter to connect to an EV charging station, and charge up an EG4 5kW battery?
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 4 месяца назад
I doubt it. The voltage would be too high from what I understand.
@jaysmith2772
@jaysmith2772 6 месяцев назад
building off grid very soon. i wanted to know does the eg4 system capable of 3 phase. wanted to run some older equipment that is cheaper to keep than buy new.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
The EG4 does state in the manual that you can select 208 volts. I have seen some firmware talking about 3 phase so I believe so. I would contact EG4 directly to verify. I will do some more research to see what I can find out! 👍
@basspig
@basspig 3 месяца назад
What's your AC input voltage that you're getting that much? Mine tops out at 89 A and that's from a cold start. I have my generator output set to exactly 240V. I suppose I could raise it to 250V and see if the EG4 unit increases it's output.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 3 месяца назад
I believe it all depends on your current state of charge and how many batteries you have. What was your starting state of charge or voltage?
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 3 месяца назад
I think the max output of 5120 watts (100 amps) is only seen when voltage is below 51.2 volts. Since 51.2 at 100 amps is the max wattage 5120. If voltage is say 54 volts already then the charger is at least 55 then max amps may only be like 93.
@basspig
@basspig 3 месяца назад
@@rodneyhunt I thought so too. And I thought raising the charge voltage setting would increase the current, but it did nothing. My battery bank was below 50% SoC due to a long period of heavy rain and thunderstorms plus the burden of air conditioning in the 90 degree weather. I have both the yellow older model and the new black model and the yellow consistently produces more current by about 4 A. Both are in parallel. I have exactly 240V coming off the generator. I can try turning up the voltage adjust on the generator toward 250V and see if that increases the current output. Some have reported being able to get 100A about of these.
@basspig
@basspig 3 месяца назад
@@rodneyhunt Yes, that makes sense, but what I am curious about is why the black model is throttling output to 89A when the yellow model is at 93.5A? I have both in parallel.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 3 месяца назад
Don’t understand that either. I would need to test both of mine again to see if I can get the same amps. I know the new one should go to 5120 watts.
@JD-xo3xz
@JD-xo3xz 4 месяца назад
Can this communicate with any lithium batteries that have comm ports for start and stop, or does it have to be an EG4?
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 4 месяца назад
Eg4 only from what I have been told. 👍
@jiminsav
@jiminsav 6 месяцев назад
Damn it Rodney.. how is it you get all the new stuff.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
Been waiting on this for a while. Hopefully it helps someone else out that was looking for a charger as well.
@NativeChukchansi
@NativeChukchansi Месяц назад
I got one. How does is communicate? Just voltage? I want it to kick on at 20% and off at 30% just keep batteries from draining until sun is available.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt Месяц назад
@@NativeChukchansi You can use SOC. Just connect to your battery then go through your settings to start charging at your desired state of charge and then the stop SOC.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt Месяц назад
@@NativeChukchansi should have a cable in box
@NativeChukchansi
@NativeChukchansi Месяц назад
@@rodneyhunt I will have to play around with settings. Wired up for 120v then RV 30a cord to 15a adapter to shore power. System is off grid one 6000xp two 48v ss batteries
@NativeChukchansi
@NativeChukchansi Месяц назад
​@@rodneyhuntturned on chargeverter and everything shut down
@norsk54472
@norsk54472 6 месяцев назад
I got 2 of V1 chargeveterr, thanks for video
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching!
@carlosreyes6448
@carlosreyes6448 3 месяца назад
I have a question i just bought one of these. But i don't have eg4 batteries. I built my own. Will this charger start charging automatically?
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 3 месяца назад
You can set it with voltage and it should. The BMS soc communication only works with EG4 batteries though.
@carlosreyes6448
@carlosreyes6448 3 месяца назад
OK I really appreciate 🙏 we are fixing to get hit by. Hurricane beryl. I'm in port lavaca TX.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 3 месяца назад
@@carlosreyes6448 Man that’s terrible. We deal with Hurricanes here in NC all the time. Hopefully you guys don’t get hit hard! Let me know if you need anything maybe a can make a post if someone is close enough to help if needed. We have some good people in this DIY community.
@carlosreyes6448
@carlosreyes6448 3 месяца назад
Hey thanks I really appreciate it!😊
@tjmooney4181
@tjmooney4181 4 месяца назад
Curious why you would use the c.v instead of connecting to the gen I out of the 6000xp?
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 4 месяца назад
Required generator size. 20kw generator required for 3 6000xp inverters. Easier to use smaller generator to charge batteries directly
@johnsemrau6412
@johnsemrau6412 6 месяцев назад
Can I plug this into an old 120 volt outlet??
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
These can use 120 or 240 volts. As long as it has the correct rating yes. You can verify plug type as well
@johnarabia6385
@johnarabia6385 19 дней назад
How do you setup auto start and auto stop?
@johnarabia6385
@johnarabia6385 19 дней назад
Using a remote start generator
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 18 дней назад
You should just be able to setup your start SOC and end SOC. After connecting your generator.
@johnarabia6385
@johnarabia6385 18 дней назад
@@rodneyhunt my generator doesn’t have a 2 way start so I might have to get something
@johnarabia6385
@johnarabia6385 18 дней назад
2 wire*
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 18 дней назад
Page 16-17 of manual should explain it. Too long to really put here plus the pictures should help. You can download manual from signature solar as well if missing it.
@brianmikus6023
@brianmikus6023 6 месяцев назад
Doesn't the 6000XP have a generator connection option? Does that not charge your batteries?
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
It absolutely could. But the generator size for all three inverters would be outrageous. This can save in generator size/cost. Perhaps you could make it work with one inverter but the generator would still be larger than what the chargeverter would need. 👍
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
3 inverters=20kw generator 1 inverter = 10kw
@brianmikus6023
@brianmikus6023 6 месяцев назад
@rodneyhunt I'm building off grid entirely. No power for almost a mile. So I could use a smaller generator setup to charge the batteries with this chargeverter? Mainly just to catch up on dark days. Is that the purpose?
@jwy224
@jwy224 6 месяцев назад
@@brianmikus6023 yep. can use the worst generator possible and this thing will charge your battery's like a champ!
@brianmikus6023
@brianmikus6023 6 месяцев назад
@jwy224 thanks. So far all of their products look like winners. I'm getting ready to settle on the land and hope to start the building process in the next 6 months. Thanks for the great videos.
@tomcrickon8773
@tomcrickon8773 6 месяцев назад
Can you use that charge verter on a Honda 2000 generator
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
Yes. You just need to set the amps down to accommodate the lower power input.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
Plus change out the plug
@larrymiller7128
@larrymiller7128 2 месяца назад
If you are connecting it to the grid, u don't need the charger because your inverter can do the same
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 2 месяца назад
Not connected to grid. 👍
@av1204
@av1204 6 месяцев назад
that is a great idea.... grid assist
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
Hey thanks. If my inverters had been installed closer to my grid power I would just use them. But the cost seems a little high for the cable needed.
@av1204
@av1204 6 месяцев назад
@@rodneyhunt I actually think this is better for a lot of reasons. Zero possibility of backfeeding. Not saying I am crazy EMP guy or anything but your system is practically isolated from the grid as a pulse would need to go through a transformer which is not likely. With my system I have a solark 15k and it has lugs directly off the meter. If something happens on the grid this thing is getting fried.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
Yeah that is always something to think about for sure. Can’t worry about but if you emp proof your stuff you should also be good for lightning and other possibilities
@offgridsolardome2024
@offgridsolardome2024 6 месяцев назад
i dont understand why we would need to buy a seperate charger when there is a a/c charger built in, being offgrid means that most peope have dirty modified sine wave gas generators, why wouldnt they incorperate this charger into the solar eg4xp unit, not everyboy has pure sine wave gas generators, as if we didnt spend enough money allready
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
Well I just don’t want to run grid to all 3 inverters from my garage since the electrical wire is very expensive and I like having other options with this charger. It can run with less power or even 120 volts if needed. The inverter needs 240 of course. I say for many people grid input is the best option for times when solar is not great. But that’s if you have grid
@jimmyg6215
@jimmyg6215 6 месяцев назад
For me with a offgrid cabin and a 3000w 120v only Honda generator, this is a must. I’m not spending more cash on a 240v generator when the Honda has worked fine for me for years. I got my EU3000is setup for propane and auto start. Works great with a separate battery charger connected to my battery bank.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
👍
@SteveG_Maine_
@SteveG_Maine_ 6 месяцев назад
17 batteries? Do you live in a house or a hotel? 😂
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
Lol. House with a ton of people!
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 6 месяцев назад
I also have an EV to charge
@ianstephenson650
@ianstephenson650 2 месяца назад
Your setup is too busy for my eyes, just too much going on.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 2 месяца назад
You are free to improve on my setup for sure! As long as you are more self sufficient that is the goal!
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