This episode we play catchup and add in some new, and fix up some old public transport lines! Mod & Asset List: steamcommunity... ➤ Visit my website for my Twitter, Twitch, other channels, specs and more! My Website: jamesturner.yt
You should build an area by the university with bars and night life and also some big box stores. Very common near major universities these days. Also chain hotels.
I think adding the cable car will be a great addition! Really adds some spice into the skyline but for where the cable car ends, I suggest that you should stop it by the waterfront and not bring it all the way into the university because it just looks so out of place. The height difference between the cable car and the low density houses is too jarring
I agree, I think the last stop should be on the quay near the train museum. People can just catch a bus from there. Also I think it is too high up above the water
Yeah I agree taking it all the way down into the university is unnecessary and looks a bit out of place. Also, I’d say having the poles standing on buildings would create a series of safety and maintenance concerns that no city would want to deal with
My idea for the little island (playing the same map) was a festival area, also added lots of tents (from the nature reserve park), the fan zone, parks and all sorts. But as it was mentioned before it's ideal for an amusement park too. Interested to see your take on it. 😊 It could be called: Glastonferry (after Glastonbury)
I thought amusement park or festival area too, with the amusement park I had a worry that you couldn’t fit all the assets in the island so it might need a little bit of landscaping.. Also the entrance to the park could be on the coast with a pedestrian bridge to the island 😊 possibilities
I like the festival area too! Didn’t we see a festival asset in a prior episode? We can have an amphitheater and a boardwalk with ice cream shops and dance clubs.
@@countrye3013 Definitely, I have a servicing tunnel for mine, but it's set to be only used by service vehicles and trucks (I have some commercial on the island so they need goods), but I tried to force the festival goers to use the ferries. 😊
Bedford deserves a train station seeing as it has so much track passing by it, even for now if it’s only a shuttle. Also you could connect the cargo rail line to the Bedford passenger train station and then build a passenger station down by the stadiums on that line and have a train run on it that doesn’t necessarily pass through the central station. Additionally to solve your internal cargo distribution you could download the barges mod and make use of all the rivers you have near the industry and the city centre
I would be too loud, nobody would want to live there. It’s already pretty close to two stations, and its also still kinda small Edit: it also has two tram/bus lines in it
You could move that fort building (from behind the mountain near Myrtle) over to the river island and make a historic site/park connected by ferry - solve two problems at once. We have quite a few places like that in the US.
If you're thinking of expanding the campus area, It'd be really cool to see the outdoor study area up on the hill surrounded with dorms, maybe connected to the main campus with a cable car. How cool would it be to have a bunch of student housing around the hill with great views of the city!
I'd make that island some kind of national park with maybe a memorial or something? Think Ellis Island in NYC. Just a tourist destination you can only get to by ferry.
doesnt building the cable car just defeat the whole purpose of the new ferry lines? i would've just made the cable car go from myrtle to bedford square over the mountain and nothing else. it could be imagined more like a tourist attraction like the london one or if you ended up making hiking trails that could be how the hikers got to the mountain?
Here for the cable car idea sounds awesome! A monorail somewhere would be cool to maybe in the downtown area in the future. They are loud and difficult to place tho
If you're set on using cable cars on the map, I think it'll be better to use them in brand new areas farther down the beach that way you can plan around them. They don't necessarily have to be connected to absolutely everything and can just service some suburbs and areas outside the city center. I'd like to see them connect brand new areas together rather than connecting areas you built up already.
Cable car is so freaking cool!!!!! It could maybe work going more over the hills towards that castle thingy and cross over water there where it’s close. The cable cars could become a beach to beach moment. Thank you for an amazing series
In Barcelona we have a cable car that runs from the port to the hill next to the ocean, so it gave me the idea that you could have the line go from the stadiums (maybe), to the port, up the hills where you had the mansions and to the castle/fort
You should put a train station in Bedford so you can get a passenger line towards Spruce Heights and in the future, the rest of the region (also to note I am pretty sure the bug about passenger trains is fixed, my city has plenty of trains and there are not humongous amounts of them, and they are pretty full).
I love the relaxed pace of this. Maybe where the castle is can be a state park too and you can have the cable thing going from one state park to the other!
I would love to see you do some custom dedicated bike lanes on some of the main roads. The painted bike lanes are so tacky - you could try and put a landscape strip between the bike lane and the main road. I think it would go well with the aesthetic of the city. I'd also love to see a nightlife or red light district - maybe in the area where all the railway bridges are near central? Also would love the island to be an alcatraz type prison island! Love the series so much!
If you want some lore on the cargo line, you can think of your rails through the city as the historical line with shared cargo and passengers and the line you want to build around the city as the city trying to route the loud cargo trains around it.
I love the cable car in this little mountain section, it would be nice as just a chill park with an observatory and maybe a botanical garden or something? The view on the city from there would be so cool
I like the idea of the cable cars, especially going down the hill toward the stadium (what a cool way to get to a game and be able to see all the arenas on your way in!), but I think it would be nice if from the top of the hill they followed the ridge and went over that old fort on the coast. Then the line could cross the water onto the little park peninsula so it didn't have to span as far, and then maybe eventually cross that mountain over toward the airport too. Then it could be a direct route for people flying in to get to the stadiums, and they could take a scenic tour of the city on the way! (I would absolutely do that if it actually existed. Every time I've visited a new city, I've made a point to find a place to see it from above and it's always worth it.)
40:30 ish : Is it me ? or does the Bedford/Downtown Stadiums area look a little like Italy in shape ... ? ... And the piece of land in the South East Corner of the map looks like a Big Cats head, shoulder, and paw ... Maybe that should become a Zoo Area at some point ...once all of the tiles are unlocked (something like Cats Head Zoo ... or a name that is obviously better than that lol) =999 =DDD
James, I think the cable car going through the city doesn't make sense. The building owner would never allow the cable car going up their roof, the house owner would be furious that now they have a cable car on their backyard lol. It would make sense if it just go across the river or going up the hills
I don't like the idea of the cable carts going through the city I think once you unlock all of the tiles then build a cable cart through the hills. Amazing series loving it!
I'd like to see a lighthouse, and maybe a old fishing village or something on that island. Just something left over from before the city was built. Make it a park with a small boat connection so people visit it.
@@bombaclat123 Hudson River had a lot of lighthouses as it cut through the Catskill Mountains, and seven are still standing! It helped navigate the boats between New York and Albany through the tidal Hudson
@@annatzipora6857 really! Now that it pretty interesting. I assume they would be a bit smaller than usual? I guess if you wanna sail some boats at night over a river you would need some kind of way to see islands etc but I would've thought you'd just plonk a lamp down not necessarily build a whole lighthouse.
I'm thinking Alcatraz for the river island. I feel the prison asset is really under used in all cities content but in reality it's kinda an unfortunate necessity.
You made my day :D i love this lets play. I came across it by accident because I bought cities skylines a few weeks ago and was just looking for tips :D Thank you :)
Heigh Heights lore: Theresa Hai was a farmer and land owner. Her family controlled a vast estate from the hills down to the valley that came to be known as the Hai Heights. When the city formed, she sold more and more uphill land to invest into the inner city firms that built on her land. The fact that the Hai Heights constituted more and more flat land made newspapers call it "Heigh Heights" mockingly. After her death, antitrust legislation split up the conflict of intrest of the inner city buildings being partly owned by their own landlord, selling the land to the buildings that were on it and the roads and parks to the city. This effectively resolved what was left of the Hai Heights, but created a new city district. The mayor who pushed the antitrust and created the new district, named it "Heigh Heights" officially because of the highrise buildings.
Bedford Lore: William Bedford was a fisherman who set up his business on the other side of the river to avoid paying city taxes. Since he crossed the river every day to sell his fish in the city anyways he took people who needed to travel on his way to and from. People in the city who wanted to cross the river were shortening "Going to Bedford's ferry" to "Going to Bedford" and so the the village that formed on the other side that accomodated the travelers waiting for the ferry became known as Bedford to the townsfolk. His son Will Bedford was interested in sports and became a professional athlete. He inherited money from the ferry line and sponsored the building of stadiums on the other side of the newly formed city. He also invested in hotels and housing for the staff of the stadiums next door and so layed the groundwork for what came to be known as the Bedford Square. The ferry line became less and less popular over time thanks to the train line, busses and bigger until it was sold by the Bedford estate to new owners. They revitalized the company by adding new stops and rerouting the lines.
You should zone high density over the hill that is next to bedford and chester. You could maybe reference san franisco while building?? I think that would look sweet!
Personally I love the cable car. Maybe you could run it either along the foreshore to Bedford or on the blank hill behind. Then take it across the water to the satalite university and the to the actual university? A less direct route? Really hope you keep Bedford as a quaint tourist town.
How about the cable car to get to the castle? Maybe? The hotel is as central as the hotels in Puerto Rico, Gran Canaria, that for some reason have mar (sea) in their name despite being up in the mountains...
Cable car is a great idea! Maybe it could go from the first park area in the suburban part of the city (along the beach) over to the castle area (still locked I think?) then to the top of the mountain with the observatory and ending at stadiums? And then maybe just a separate short line between waterfront and the island? :)
Love the cable car idea, but I think you shouldn't have it go all the way to the uni. I think you might want to put a cable car connection in Heather park, going over the railway, to the mountains on the other side. It'd probably look kinda cool, as it overlooks the high density area
Cargo rail out around the National Park would be better than smashing through the city, or some weird tunnel bridge thing through the mountain and across the bay.
I've been hoping you'd put in a cable car system! I think it would be better if you move the campus area cable car station over by the nature preserve on the other side of campus. That gives you double duty for the park and the campus AND you have the benefit of the height from the hill. I also suggest removing the cable car station by the train station. With the station on the top of the hill and all the routes of public transit, that stop feels too redundant to justify the difficulty in putting it in.
Could Heather Park (Old Mansion Hill) be a gondola terminal? One line runs “south” to the stadiums and beach. Second goes “west” to the train station. Third, “north” across Bedford River.
I think the place you picked for the cargo harbor makes little sense, and will cause more problems than it solves. Wouldn’t a cargo harbor next to Spruce Hills, close to the coming airport, make a lot more sense? That’s closer to the industrial and the trucks wouldn’t have to go through the entire city. Then you could also use the area now designated for the harbor as a festival/entertainment area, which would make sense I think next to the stadiums.
For the cargo rail, I think it'd be nice to tunnel under the national park mountain. like along the city-side edge a bit, not right through the whole mountain. Means you can do the whole go around plan, but a bit more direct. Also, for the island, you could make it another park, only reachable by ferry maybe? that'd make the ferry have a purpose other than scenic transport.
You could use the cable car as a tourist attraction instead of actual public transport. Maybe make a park out of the castle ruins up the mountain and make it accessible through cale car only?
I like the idea of the cable car, but it doesn't make sense to me to put it exactly where the train AND ferry are already servicing. I'd love to see it going from the beach park area to the hills around Myrtle maybe, and for you to turn the fort area into a tourist-y area. It makes far more sense for the cable car to service a different place, rather than just crowding all the public transport onto the same place on the two waterfronts! I think that's why ferry line 2 is getting so much use - there's very little to connect Bedford to that far side of the suburbs other than the ferry, so people use. The express line basically duplicates the train, and therefore it isn't as functional
I love the cable car idea. I've been on the one over the Thames and it's an absolutely awesome ride, so I think it should definitely stay over the water. That little island is crying out to be a park, maybe with lots of piers branching out of it? I think it would suit the area if it looked quite busy.
If you’re wanting to go for realism, the cable car needs to go in a completely straight line. It’s very complicated and very expensive to put in turning mechanisms for cable cars and they’re even more expensive to maintain, so generally they’re avoided unless absolutely necessary. It’s fine for the cable car to change directions at stations though. That’s generally more often done, as the cars are removed from the cables to slow down. You are right about the people hating it going over their back gardens though. Just look at the history of the Portland, OR sky tram, which does just as such. There was mass complaining about it and land value in the area has shot down.
Amazing episode man! I love the tunneling idea for the train(s). I'd still add a toll on the highway, because you will really make some money! Also, for your ferry lines, I'd end up changing the colors, so they aren't the same. This is giving me some inspiration to purchase this game! God Bless and keep it up brother :)
Really think the port should be alongside the airport site, if you put it next to the downtown that area seems very small and really near residential etc.. Plus where the airport is going is a lot more accessible to the majority of the industrial from the beginning of the city. Just a thought 😊 The cargo station could be more for goods from future industry on the left of the downtown, could do a new goods station for the airport/port... Been loving the series, as an Architect and Masterplanner it's fun to see you make the same decisions as are made in real life! 🙌🏻
Comment on the cable car- it doesn't really make sense to run it through the whole. Just use it to connect things over mountains. You could use it to get to that weird castle surrounded by mountains, make it a little tourist trap. Having a few shorter cable car tours scattered around would be cool. As it is, such a long one just doesn't seem realistic or make much sense, and personally I really don't like it.
I know people are saying the cable car shouldn’t go all the way to the university, but imagine being a college student and taking the cable car to the game!! That would be sick
James maybe you could add another Bridge between that random small middle island. Although it might be pointless since the ferries are actually useful!
You should use the cable car to connect all the different hills in the town, which already have less stuff built on and you have space for stops. Then you can have direct lines to the different areas and people can use the local bus/train lines for transport and get all the nice views of the city at the same time.
You could develop the varsity sports up on the hill overlooking the university, or move the law school across the river and develop in the law school's spot!
Maybe try a cargo airport near the industrial area behind the old industrial building that doesn't work. I know it won't help the city but it may help move more product and increase cash flow.
YES!. Barges from the industrial area, down the river and under the highway bridge by bedford. Flatten out the mountains by Chester and make it all industrial.
here's my idea: build an amusement park or a zoo in the island between downtown and the suburbs, and a cable car line as the main way to access it. is it realistic? not at all. but it's cool!
