New Force Feedback Flight Stick from MOZA | First Look & Test | Moza AB9

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Force Feedback is making a return to the Flight Sim World and MOZA is one of the first to launch their product. In this video we look at what you get & put it to the test in DCS.
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@Spelljammer1 22 дня назад

Software looks more promising than I thought, thanks for a thorough look.

@SimFanatic 22 дня назад

Fantastic video and overview of the AB9! I love that it’s compatible with various third-party flight sticks. The build quality looks solid, and the software, with some improvements, seems to offer excellent customization options. I’m excited to see how it integrates with MSFS in the future. Thanks for the video and for consistently delivering great content. It was awesome meeting you at FlightSimExpo 2024 and being on the panel with you, Mark. Looking forward to 2025. Cheers and blue skies!

@SimHangerFS 22 дня назад

Thanks, great to meet you too 😊

@nullsig Час назад

oh how i envy you. It is a dream come true to have so many companies coming out with FFB flight gear, Cannot wait to try this one out.

@aaronwhite1786 3 дня назад

One thing that I think would be pretty interesting to see for the sim community, especially the civil side, would be throttles with motors in them so they can move like they would in real life. Either way, it's awesome that so many companies are starting to get competitive in the force feedback market. It seemed you were stuck with either ancient joysticks that didn't really hold a candle to the sticks available now, or you had to spend a decent amount of money to buy a handmade one, or pay to build your own.

@VGKBrian 22 дня назад

Moza makes great products. Running the R16 on my racing rig and love it. This base is on my wishlist for my DCS F-16 and A-10.

@simulacrae 22 дня назад

I’m glad they’re supporting the thrustmaster connector, that’s the only issue I have with my vkb, the fact that I can’t switch grips easily.

@RicheUK 22 дня назад

Great Video/first look. For helicopter modules, I would be very interested in how well it simulates a cyclic stick?

@MeppyMan 22 дня назад

Was just about to say the same.

@mike605 22 дня назад

It's nice to see that company's from sim racing are starting to make products for flight sim . I enjoy both sim racing and flight sim. it would be nice to have force feedback for for flying. Thanks Mark

@jimmy8x541 22 дня назад

Looks amazing. software looks very nice for an initial product. Just the fact that it comes with pre-configured profiles is a huge win. I'm content with my current setup but next time I upgrade my headset I'm going to also upgrade to a FFB stick.

@SimHangerFS 22 дня назад

It really comes into its own in VR 😊

@julianhall2008 22 дня назад

Looks really nice, I have the Brunner cls2 base, it's really good that ffb is making a come back ,well over due. I mounted the Brunner on my p3 with Gorilla double sided tape. It sounds rubbish but works really well ,solid as a rock. I had to raise my yoke platform on the p3 to make room so when it goes through its start up it won't foul on the yoke. Thanks Mark . Very similar forces to the Brunner.

@Andydigital80 21 день назад

Brunner peak is 6.8Nm, nominal 4Nm, Moza is 12Nm peak and 9 nominal. I've ordered one due to the double peak force, hope I made the right decision, although I do love my Brunner Yoke CLSE MKII that peaks at over 100 :)

@DCS.1-1 20 дней назад

Dear Moza, Can you make a VKB adapter made out of metal. No compatibility needed due to the Vkb Switchbox Thank you

@VRFSC 22 дня назад

Been waiting for your video on this since you announced you had one... have to say I'm a bit disappointed as it doesn't show anything that hasn't been done before. I'm looking to push the button on one and no further informed... that said looking forward to future in depth videos. Keep up the good work.

@marc_d. 2 дня назад

Interesting video. What about trim? When you move the trim, does the effort you put on the stick become negligible? And does the stick stay in the same place as in a real aircraft?

@jxk4500 9 дней назад

On the to buy list 😬

@paulsleighty 14 дней назад

Certainly like you Mark I am keen to see this in msfs.

@Pixelatedworld-iu2dd День назад

Love the landing! 😅

@SimHangerFS День назад

@@Pixelatedworld-iu2dd 🤣

@Osvaldo_Oz 22 дня назад

Wonder how Moza FFB stick compares to FFBeast and/or Rhino

@jonasfogelberg9300 22 дня назад

What’s your take on the combination of a motion rig and a FFB joystick (in VR)? That at least on paper looks like the ultimate immersion.

@SimHangerFS 22 дня назад

Simply....EPIC!

@Uploadvideoschannel 21 день назад

great review. i look forward to AB9. whats your thoughts on MSFS since there isnt native FFB support unlike DCS which has native FFB...

@SimHangerFS 21 день назад

@@Uploadvideoschannel The AB9 will use the telemetry from MSFS initially until MSFS24 has FFB built in, hopefully within a few months of initial release.

@SkyKing-Opa 22 дня назад

Would like to know if this can be used as a Helicopter cyclic in DCS and MSFS. If you could ask MOZA please Mark. Thanx in advance.

@4secsharkmr352 22 дня назад

Incoming 🎉🎉🎉 thx Mark

@Tome4kkkk 15 дней назад

9 Nm is equivalent to around 1 kg hanged at an end of a 1 m long stick.

@GeorgOrtner 9 дней назад

Great video! Would love to see another one going into more detail about msfs compatibility.

@PaddyPatrone 21 день назад

God I wish Virpil had a FFB Base out right now.

@SimHangerFS 21 день назад

@@PaddyPatrone Still in dev. Exciting to see what they bring to market.

@russellharris5072 22 дня назад

I use the XPForce software with the Microsoft Sidewinder ForceFeedback II and it responds very well.I recently bought the Swordfish and the heavy controls were reflected well in the software with no adjustments to settings.WARNING!! Using forcefeedback equipment will render you intolerant of any other control stick,its a one way trip!.........................................................

@saren6538 20 дней назад

love my bruner yoke

@gregh335 21 день назад

Hi Mark. Greg here…I bumped into you at the Vegas conference near the snack bar with your lovely wife. I’m in the market for a FFB unit and I greatly appreciate your always the best reviews! Can you clarify something…do you know if will it be functionally compatible with MS2020 soon or just with the upcoming 2024? I’d like to have it operational in both. Also, as an expert…what stick add on would, from your experience, be the one to get that is most versatile across the most aircraft? I like vintage planes like the spitfires, F86’s, P51’s, but also some moderns like the F117. All the best! Greg in North Carolina, USA.

@SimHangerFS 21 день назад

@@gregh335 hey Greg, great to hear from you. Yes it will be MSFS 2020 & 2024 compatible. I would opt for the MH16. Thrustmaster Warthog or something compatible from Virpil.

@doifeellucky 9 дней назад

Does it work in MSFS yet?

@111merk 13 дней назад

does it work with the FA/18 E/F Super Hornet Mod?

@PaddyPatrone 21 день назад

Airbus wont give you much ffb. They are full flybywire. This only really shines pared with old analog aircraft models.

@NoSTs123 20 дней назад

I wonder if vkb will develop a FF base. It seems to become the new trend in the folden Age of Flightsiming we begin to see.

@SimHangerFS 20 дней назад

@@NoSTs123 I don’t know, but Virpil is definitely 💯

@Spelljammer1 22 дня назад

Could you please weigh the base when you get a chance?

@samis7170 4 дня назад

Moza shipping over promises and under delivers. I ordered Sept 1st, was charged Sept 1st, nothing since then, no reply to queries, nothing. I think I might cancel my order thru the credit card company.

@FAA-DPE 22 дня назад

Bought it.

@nexus888 22 дня назад

Most important - will it support the Virpil sticks :)

@SimHangerFS 22 дня назад

@@nexus888 Some not all, I don’t have a definitive list yet.

@stonech4t 20 дней назад

Will the MH16 stick be compatible to Virpil bases?

@SimHangerFS 20 дней назад

@@stonech4t good question…I don’t know.

@billbaggins1688 22 дня назад

Would like to hear your thoughts flying a heli.

@SimHangerFS 22 дня назад

@@billbaggins1688 will definitely try it out in MSFS. 👍

@melvilib 22 дня назад

Is the peak force of 12nm peak a bit of a dubious claim? Seems the the figure can be derived from a 45 degee stick position. I will be watching developments as I am in the market of a FFB Stick and rudder pedals. I notice that Moza don't actually state that the MRP will be FFB, unlike the Throttle(MTP) which is stated and having vibration feedback(haptic?).

@fastfed 22 дня назад

12nm would be ridiculous in your hand, this isn't a steering wheel that requires a ton of force, honestly 5nm would be PLENTY on a flight stick. if thats what were doing, trying to replicate real life, except a small few planes, nothing would be designed to have that much force in your stick

@melvilib 22 дня назад

@@fastfed I was making an observation regarding performance claims. No idea idea if 9nm is good or bad, but several flight simers have stated that is is weak.

@SimHangerFS 22 дня назад

@@melvilibI’m no expert in terms of force, all I can attest to is the force this base exerted was considerable. I haven’t seen any indication that the rudder pedals will be FFB at this stage.

@louismileham4012 22 дня назад

For my birthday I decided I'm going to get my budgets probably gonna be like 10,000 Rand and I'm going to get the Honeycomb xbc yolk and the thrustmaster pedals the cheap ones info throttles I don't really know but yeah yet I don't know yet but yeah bye

@mplmpl7780 22 дня назад

Would this work with Falcon BMS ?

@VRFlightSimGuy 19 дней назад

Any landing you can walk away from... ;)

@SimHangerFS 19 дней назад

@@VRFlightSimGuy 😂

@caskraker 22 дня назад

The best controller you own sits on top of the highest IKEA product in your room. Seems like a difficult place to use it. 😂

@everythinggaming7938 22 дня назад

A bit strange to release something before it supports all the main games. So many companies rush for sales nowadays

@melcrose 22 дня назад

I'll take my old MS FFB stick with a $10 program to make it work, thanks. (DEAR LORD IT'S SO EXPENSIVE ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !)

@737sst 19 дней назад

Too bad it doesn't seem to support P3D.

@WhiteHawk77 22 дня назад

Anyone notice the silly mistake with the Airbus style grip? 🤦🏻

@TheSound0fLegends 22 дня назад

9nm is very low 😢

@SimHangerFS 22 дня назад

I found quite the opposite when trying it. 9kg per second of force is considerable.

@clintonadams7942 20 дней назад

Compared to what? A FFB racing wheel base, which is an entirely different scenario?

@NoSTs123 20 дней назад

i find 9nm to be adequate.

@twistedttea 14 дней назад

peak tq of 12nm according to website

@fastfed 22 дня назад

Every serious flight simmer uses an extension, literally every force feedback review, no one has used one.. fishyyyyyyyyyyy

@sirwhippamus 22 дня назад

I don't. I'm fairly certain all side stick users don't either so.....plus you can infer that since it has more force than the vprhino it's probably fine to use an extension. We'll have to look at it when more people are getting their hands on em but I doubt it's gonna be an issue.

@Warkip 22 дня назад

@@sirwhippamusthe moza has the same force as the vpforce rhino. The 12nm is a bit misleading, because it is 9nm in each direction, what will result in 12 total when pushed into a corner. It might be a bit on the low side if you want to use an extension, i am waiting till we know more about the winwing ffb base, because that will have significantly higher torque from what i have heard edit: i remembered the amounts wrong and corrected them

@WhiteHawk77 22 дня назад

Not anyone using it as a side stick.

@sirwhippamus 22 дня назад

@@WhiteHawk77 weird then how they already have the viper profile down ain't it 😂. Im sure that was absolutely a coincidence.

@sirwhippamus 22 дня назад

@@Warkip that makes sense. Hopefully it's on point then since people seem to like the vprhinos output. Let me know what you find when you get yours 🤙

@andysonofbob2599 22 дня назад

Do you know how it compare to MS Sidewinder Force Feedback 2?

@SimHangerFS 22 дня назад

The Sidewinder was more haptic feedback than true force feedback if I recall correctly. You can't really compare.

@bigbangerz5856 22 дня назад

I didn’t know MSFS 2024 would have FFB telemetry included, that is very interesting and a compelling reason to move over. How would MOZA feel about a head-to-head comparison with the VPforce Rhino?

@SimHangerFS 22 дня назад

@@bigbangerz5856 Yes it is on the future content schedule. Will not be functional on day of release. Hopefully we will not have to wait too long.

@andysonofbob2599 22 дня назад

@@SimHangerFS Hey dude. No it wasn't. The Sidewinder 2 was full ffb. Not remotely haptic. I asked ChatGPT to compare the Force Feedback 2 with contemporary ffb stick bases and it says the newer ones are stronger and the newer motors have less cogging so are smoother. These newer ffb bases are really tempting but I'm not sure how much of an improvement it will be to my old FFB2?

@pauljrix 22 дня назад

I had the original MS Sidewinder FFB stick. It was fantastic at the time. Just being able to get a feel for your airspeed by the trim forces was a game changer in a combat sim. I should wait to see what WinWing bring to the market, but I’m not sure I have the discipline to wait that long. Thanks for the overview Mark.